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oh people(and i mean all), stop arguing. the leadership was passed from Master Shogi to UHJ, so thats where the top-down is. arguing about this is only bringing division, now that is a Sin. i aint perfect, aint fallible, but i know that arguing about this will not do any good to the Faith. Peace.
'Abdu'l-Bahá writes "O ye beloved of the Lord! It is incumbent upon the Guardian of the Cause of God to appoint in his own life-time him that shall become his successor,"
how can rememy be the Guardian? unbelievable its these "orthodox bahai" people that give the faith a bad name. they shouldnt even include the name "bahai" in their. innocent blood is bieng spilled in Persia. whtat can they say they have done?
O ye beloved of the Lord! It is incumbent upon the Guardian of the Cause of God to appoint in his own life-time him that shall become his successor, that differences may not arise after his passing.
('Abdul-Bahá, The Will and Testament of 'Abdul-Bahá, p. 12)
4)CONTINUED FRO MTHE WILL AND TESTAMENT OF ABDU'l BAHA: "How often hath grievous error been disguised in the garb of truth, that it might sow the seeds of doubt in the hearts of men "
Are you not causing doubts in the hearts of men? Only the weak in spirit get misguided!
3) CONTINUED FROM WILL AND TESTAMENT OF ABDU'L BAHA "My object is to show that the Hands of the Cause of God must be ever watchful and so soon as they find anyone beginning to oppose and protest against the Guardian of the Cause of God, cast him out from the congregation of the people of Bahá and in no wise accept any excuse from him.
2) "The obligations of the Hands of the Cause of God are to diffuse the Divine Fragrances, to edify the souls of men, to promote learning, to improve the character of all men and to be, at all times and under all conditions, sanctified and detached from earthly things. They must manifest the fear of God by their conduct, their manners, their deeds and their words."
After listening to all of you, what I have to say is this: There is only one Baha'i faith! All of you are misguided! Ask yourself which covenant breakers are you following Mason Remey, Joel Bray Marangella, Donald Harvey or Pepe Remey. The proof is the root of all of your divisions. You can't change that not matter what proof you put forth in your videos. BY THE FRUIT YOU SHALL KNOW
All the proof are in your division! Look up under Mason Remey the history of all these people!
The fundemental teaching of the Bahai Faith is unity and oneness of religion this can only be achived through the will of god and giving the people the power to elect the embryonic guardian of the faith not a power tripping crazy Like Mason Remey!~ Allah`u`abha friends may god have mercy on your souls for trying to divide his believers with your poison!
According to Abdu'l-Baha, in His Will and Testament, unity comes from obedience to the Guardian. That is the fundamental teaching of the Baha'i Faith, not giving the people the power. Why don't you educate yourself?
"Whoso interpreteth what hath been sent down from heaven of Revelation, and altereth its evident meaning, he, verily, is of them that have perverted the Sublime Word of God, and is of the lost ones in the Lucid Book." -The KITAB-I-AQDAS
She disrespected Mason Remey, the second Guardian. It does not matter how holy you are and how holy your family, opposition to the Guardian is violation.
mason remey is not the second gaurdian. he is in no way related to the house of Aghsan, nor can he speak Arabic of Persian. the only "second gaurdian" can be the son of Shoghi Effendi and Ruhiyyih Khanum, as they had no children there is not second gaurdian.
and where in the Writings does it impose a language requirement? You are making that up,just like everything else. Your UHJ is just making it up as they go along! It was Abdu'l-Baha who went outside the Aghsan to create the Guardianship instead. Is that not the import of the Will and Testament?
Nonsense. The Guardian is not a translator. He is guided by the Holy Spirit to make proper interpretations. It is not a situation of having to have a command of a language. If it was, Abdu'l-Baha would have said so. Your arrogance is showing because you clearly believe you know better than Abdul-Baha. This is a sign of violation.
who is mason remey? a power hungry man thats who he is. he was excommunicated and looked down upon. he went against the Universal House of Justice and went against the Hand's of the Cause. He also went against Amatu'l-Bahá Ruhiyyih Khánum. who did he think he was?
you HAVE to related to the House of Aghsán. if that wasent the case i could stand up and declare myself the gaurdian.
You still haven't told me where it says in the writings that the 2nd Guardian had to be Shogi Effendi's child, as you stated above. Please tell me where that can be found in the writings. Thank you.
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aloneboy98 1 year ago
To all Baha'is who want to leave comments on this or any other videos posted by Covenant-breakers. Please beware not to get into any dialogue with any Covenant-breakers, including the person who posted this video; as this is in conflict with Abdu'l-Baha's teachings. It is also not a good idea to watch any of these videos in their entirety.
cameronmoj 1 year ago
oh people(and i mean all), stop arguing. the leadership was passed from Master Shogi to UHJ, so thats where the top-down is. arguing about this is only bringing division, now that is a Sin. i aint perfect, aint fallible, but i know that arguing about this will not do any good to the Faith. Peace.
GunaMalaysia 1 year ago
'Abdu'l-Bahá writes "O ye beloved of the Lord! It is incumbent upon the Guardian of the Cause of God to appoint in his own life-time him that shall become his successor,"
how can rememy be the Guardian? unbelievable its these "orthodox bahai" people that give the faith a bad name. they shouldnt even include the name "bahai" in their. innocent blood is bieng spilled in Persia. whtat can they say they have done?
mrjames9999 2 years ago
......COVENANT BREAKER ALERT!!!!
CandlesOfUnity 2 years ago 2
O ye beloved of the Lord! It is incumbent upon the Guardian of the Cause of God to appoint in his own life-time him that shall become his successor, that differences may not arise after his passing.
('Abdul-Bahá, The Will and Testament of 'Abdul-Bahá, p. 12)
mrjames9999 3 years ago 6
4)CONTINUED FRO MTHE WILL AND TESTAMENT OF ABDU'l BAHA: "How often hath grievous error been disguised in the garb of truth, that it might sow the seeds of doubt in the hearts of men "
Are you not causing doubts in the hearts of men? Only the weak in spirit get misguided!
pinabarryscott 3 years ago 7
3) CONTINUED FROM WILL AND TESTAMENT OF ABDU'L BAHA "My object is to show that the Hands of the Cause of God must be ever watchful and so soon as they find anyone beginning to oppose and protest against the Guardian of the Cause of God, cast him out from the congregation of the people of Bahá and in no wise accept any excuse from him.
pinabarryscott 3 years ago 7
This comment has received too many negative votes show
A Covenanent Breaker opposes the guardianship... How can those who believe there is still an active guardian BE A COVENANT BREAKER?
And ONLY The Guardian can declare someone a Covenant Breaker. Period.
Riowyn 3 years ago
2) "The obligations of the Hands of the Cause of God are to diffuse the Divine Fragrances, to edify the souls of men, to promote learning, to improve the character of all men and to be, at all times and under all conditions, sanctified and detached from earthly things. They must manifest the fear of God by their conduct, their manners, their deeds and their words."
None of that was done by them
pinabarryscott 3 years ago 7
1)(this is by the way from Bahai library which I found within seconds) THE WILL AND TESTAMENT O ABDU'L BAHA:
1) Here is one of the reasons why all of the covenant breakers are not the appointed ones:
(this is by the way from Bahai library which I found within seconds) THE WILL AND TESTAMENT O ABDU'L BAHA:
pinabarryscott 3 years ago 7
After listening to all of you, what I have to say is this: There is only one Baha'i faith! All of you are misguided! Ask yourself which covenant breakers are you following Mason Remey, Joel Bray Marangella, Donald Harvey or Pepe Remey. The proof is the root of all of your divisions. You can't change that not matter what proof you put forth in your videos. BY THE FRUIT YOU SHALL KNOW
All the proof are in your division! Look up under Mason Remey the history of all these people!
pinabarryscott 3 years ago 6
The fundemental teaching of the Bahai Faith is unity and oneness of religion this can only be achived through the will of god and giving the people the power to elect the embryonic guardian of the faith not a power tripping crazy Like Mason Remey!~ Allah`u`abha friends may god have mercy on your souls for trying to divide his believers with your poison!
AcidoNZ 3 years ago 4
According to Abdu'l-Baha, in His Will and Testament, unity comes from obedience to the Guardian. That is the fundamental teaching of the Baha'i Faith, not giving the people the power. Why don't you educate yourself?
orthodoxbahai 3 years ago
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"Whoso interpreteth what hath been sent down from heaven of Revelation, and altereth its evident meaning, he, verily, is of them that have perverted the Sublime Word of God, and is of the lost ones in the Lucid Book." -The KITAB-I-AQDAS
AcidoNZ 3 years ago
Amatu'l Bahá Rúhíyyih Khánum did not disrespect Shoghi Effendi, she is a holy woman from the holy family.
mrjames9999 3 years ago 2
She disrespected Mason Remey, the second Guardian. It does not matter how holy you are and how holy your family, opposition to the Guardian is violation.
orthodoxbahai 3 years ago
mason remey is not the second gaurdian. he is in no way related to the house of Aghsan, nor can he speak Arabic of Persian. the only "second gaurdian" can be the son of Shoghi Effendi and Ruhiyyih Khanum, as they had no children there is not second gaurdian.
mrjames9999 3 years ago 4
and where in the Writings does it impose a language requirement? You are making that up,just like everything else. Your UHJ is just making it up as they go along! It was Abdu'l-Baha who went outside the Aghsan to create the Guardianship instead. Is that not the import of the Will and Testament?
orthodoxbahai 3 years ago
only a gaurdian can interpret the Word of God. ALL of the holy writings are written in either Arabic or Persian remey knew none of these languages.
mrjames9999 3 years ago 3
Nonsense. The Guardian is not a translator. He is guided by the Holy Spirit to make proper interpretations. It is not a situation of having to have a command of a language. If it was, Abdu'l-Baha would have said so. Your arrogance is showing because you clearly believe you know better than Abdul-Baha. This is a sign of violation.
jagoldberg99 3 years ago
So we get one guardian and that's it? How does that make any sense?
Riowyn 3 years ago
mrjames9999, show me where in the writings it says the guardian must be the biological child of Shogi Effendi. Thank you.
Riowyn 3 years ago
who is mason remey? a power hungry man thats who he is. he was excommunicated and looked down upon. he went against the Universal House of Justice and went against the Hand's of the Cause. He also went against Amatu'l-Bahá Ruhiyyih Khánum. who did he think he was?
you HAVE to related to the House of Aghsán. if that wasent the case i could stand up and declare myself the gaurdian.
mrjames9999 3 years ago 5
You still haven't told me where it says in the writings that the 2nd Guardian had to be Shogi Effendi's child, as you stated above. Please tell me where that can be found in the writings. Thank you.
Riowyn 3 years ago
how dare you disrespect Amatu'l Bahá Rúhíyyih Khánum
mrjames9999 3 years ago
How dare Rúhíyyih Khánum for disrespecting and opposing the Guardian.
orthodoxbahai 3 years ago
orthodoxbahai there is no hope for you gys! God will take care of your!
pinabarryscott 3 years ago 8