In those days saying oriental was not offensive. People simply jump the gun and start pulling the race card. It is true oriental is used for rugs and vases and all that, but it used to mean also people who came from the orient which is the far east. So PC idiots, please shut up and stop spouting your race card crap.
Writing her name in both Chinese and English. Now, THAT'S cute...and so is Ms. Kwan. In truth, she's one of those women who seem to become that much more attractive as they grow older.
It's interesting that, in "Suzy Wong," she was Bill Holden's romantic vis-a-vis. Offscreen, she would play tennis with his sons, Peter and Scott, during the breaks.
The following year, she would score another success in the film version of "Flower Drum Song." Even with her singing dubbed, she was great.
Bennet invalidated this with his wrong answer "Kwai". hehe He smiles away in ignorance... Usually love ya, Cerf, but you should've apologized to the young lady, or are those exotic names too much for you? :P
They always ask "Do you have movie opening on Broadway?" Was there only a few movie theaters in New York back then? I always thought Broadway was for plays and musicals.
@nexusutube Until the 70s'' there were major movie theaters as well-i ncluding Radio City Music Hall. And major premiers, since newspapers and major magazines headquartered in New York would review those major films-more important ofttimes than an L.A premiere. Hard to see now where, 50 years ago, their were TWICE the theatres that exist now in the Broadway district!
"By what route did you come to stardom in the film? If this is not invading in private affairs." WTF! There's only one thing he could be insinuating there, and I can't believe someone otherwise so well-spoken would make such a rotten remark. Is it okay to imply because she's Asian, sexy, just a woman, what? I know this was a different world and everything but I still can't believe a tv host would imply something so baseless and rather crass on national tv, even if it escaped most of the audience
@inqueling You do great disservice to a fine gentleman. A type so sadly rare anymore. You judge his remark by a contemporary perspective where sexual innuendo is constant and intentional-not so in 1960 . Suzie Wong had been a hit on Broadway a couple years before starring France Nuyen-she had begin the film role and then been :"replaced" by Nancy Kwan-a complete unknown with no prior acting experience-she was the understudy! A natural question politely stated-what' rotten is your take on it.
@inqueling - I have to admit that the way he phrased the question is curious given that he added: "if this is not invading your private affair." While one does have to allow for differing speech patterns of the time, it seems a sexist rematk even for the 60's.
@broadjumper1 I don't see any sexism at all in Daly's question. At the time, there was some speculation that France Nuyen had not left the cast of "Suzy Wong" willingly but had been fired. Daly simply gave Ms. Kwan an opening to refrain from discussing any unpleasant aspects of the situation. Such respect for another's privacy was common at the time. It's only nowadays that every utterance is screened for its political correctness, and people are EXPECTED to air their dirty laundry in public.
@dadunham - There was probably nothing improper intended, just curious phrasing. But even if he was referring to Nuyen's departure, it's not likely he would have expected her to say, "Oh I got it because Frances was fired." Afterall, Hollywood was still a studio town in the early 60's It's been suggested that Nuyen was let go (after 5 weeks of filming) because she had gained weight over a troubles in her affair with Marlon Brando and couldn't fit her costumes.
@broadjumper1 I still think you're missing the overall tenor of the times somewhat. It was a time of much more gentility than today. It would have been important to Daly not just to give Kwan a way to respond flexibly and graciously, but to also make sure he did not appear to be rudely prying. In fact, he quite possibly even asked Kwan prior to the show for permission to ask the question. Even so, he would STILL have added the "if that's not invading" remark just for the appearance of propriety.
@dadunham - Again, it was probably an innocent remark, but it's still curious, somewhat ham-handed phrasing even for that time. And while TV has certainly eliminated any pretense of civility towards public figures or celebrities, people were looking for salacious rumors and dirt even then. I don't believe minority actors (especially female) were given nearly the kind of respect that Caucasian actors received, so it's not far-fetched to question his remark as being less innocent than you assume.
@broadjumper1 I suppose you could be right. I was only nine years old when that episode of "What's My Line?" first aired. But I grew up among a lot of those old-school gentlemen like Bill Daly, guys whose manner and sensibilities were forged in the 1950s and 1940's (and even earlier). Based on my experiences with them, I can find nothing odd or suspect in Daly's comment. And I am CERTAINLY not going to assume any racism on his part based on such flimsy evidence.
@calihartley2010 I can see from your age that Dorothy Kilgallen was not someone of your era and lifetime; you're comment to me is also totally baseless because Kilgallen was not liked by the other panelists; if you'd taken a moment to look this up, maybe you wouldn't have made the same sort of "baseless comment" to ME!
A schmuck like you obviously wouldn't understand people chuckling over Walter Winchell's being castrated because he had prostate cancer. (A standard treatment in "those days.")
@SatchmoSings Wow 'Schnuck' what an unclassy comment from a supposed Ms older and Wiser person. Anyway I googled what you told me, and I can find no record of that. i do however remember reading it on another comment written by maybe you or someone else in another clip. I have not found anything about Walter Winchell's castration. BTW Dorothy died in 1965 'mudered'and Winchell died in 1972. So shut up.
@SatchmoSings Well like I said I found no proof that she ever made fun of Winchell. If there was, then it would be available for everyone to see. So stop acting mean and if you are as old as you say you are, then act like it oldie.
@calihartley2010 I never made the claim that Kilgallen ever said anything shitty about Winchell, genius; learn how to read.
No, I have even less of a chin than Kilgallen, if that makes you feel any better when you're wiping your hand on your "nice" chin after you've finished wiping your buttom with it.
It's a shame you can't find anything about Winchell being castrated because of his prostate cancer; I'm old enough to remember when it happened; maybe a book on Winchell would have this detail.
@calihartley2010 Yes, I am quite crude and it generally comes in rather handy when I'm dealing with a "high-hat" such as yourself.
Please go see a good otolaryngologist to have your sinuses properly drained; maybe that will finally get rid of all that impacted snot out of your nose!
@calihartley2010 Until I made your acquaintance, I didn't think it possible for a person to sexually assault themselves; I now know that self-ass rape is most definitely a reality.
@SatchmoSings Wow for a 57 year old, you seem to be a skunk. You need to learn some manners skunk. You are not that old like you claim. What a filthy liar.
@calihartley2010 I'd like you to put me in touch with your mom so she can tell me what it was like to potty-train you; something tells me she was only partly successful.
@calihartley2010 They were shocked but I doubt saddened; it's just like when you'll croak; people will make the necessary public utterances but in private they'll all be glad you're out of their lives, let alone off the planet!
@SatchmoSings I disagree. One intelligent enough, can clearly see the saddness in their eyes. You know that the eyes are the windows to the soul right? Look at their eyes and you will see that they were truly sad. I can clearly see that in Arlene and John's face.
@SatchmoSings And so you are a good judge of everything, NOT!!! By the way i never said that Kilgallen had a good chin. She is dead and so if you have some respect for the dead leave her alone. Shows what sort of background you come from.
@calihartley2010 I told you; I drove a taxicab on the mean streets of New York City starting way before Mayor Giuliani got rid of all the junkies and hookers; it wasn't such an easy thing to do.
That, and I was also a bit of a hooker myself.
And yes, I'm PROUD of my background as "street" as it is.
@calihartley2010 02. Look, putz, people said shit about Kilgallen while she was alive; Frank Sinatra called her "The Chinless Wonder;" so I say the same thing about people when they're alive and when they're dead.
My parents thought Walter Winchell was a real scumbag and they got a good laugh over the idea of doctors regularly sticking their fingers up his ass to check his prostate cancer let alone his castration; they hated his guts their entire adult lives.
@SatchmoSings wow sounds like your parents were jerks too. No wonder you truned out to be like them. I hope you are telling the truth about your parents. If not, then you are a vicious liar and God will punish you.
@calihartley2010 Winchell was not a nice man; Rudy Vallee, in his autobiography "Let the Chips Fall Where They May" talks about a betrayal by Winchell; Vallee said he thought Winchell was his friend but Winchell was no one's friend; he only used people and was just too obvious about it.
@SatchmoSings Ofcourse what do u expect from a liberal jew. I too have heard stories about winchell. But, i do not wish evil on anyone. If Dorothy made fun of his castration, then that was not very nice of her. However, i cannot find any evidence that she did.
@calihartley2010 Uh, you haven't examined "me" too closely; I'm pretty conservative so your calling me a liberal it totally asinine.
I don't know what Kilgallen thought of Winchell; they certainly didn't work through the same syndicate (and I'm sure you didn't know that; you don't even know what a "syndicate" is in this regard).
I do, however, think it neat that Winchell WAS castrated; I think it rather funny and quite "schadenfreude."
@SatchmoSings Well you seem like those silly conservatives that give the rest of us a bad name. Please change if not for your sake, but for the sake of the true conservatives. I think the syndicate would mean the news agency because both of them were in the news business. I'm I right?
And rejoicing at a man's castration is not nice. It can happen to you if you are a man or even if you are a woman it can happen to you. Think about it. You need to shape up there
@calihartley2010 Winchell was syndicated through "McNaught;" Kilgallen was syndicated through "King Features" which was owned by The Hearst Corporation.
From the first time I saw her in The World of Suzie Wong back in the 60s, I've always thought she was one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. She seems so natural in this clip. Long hair let down, very little make up, and she even put her thumb nervously into her mouth a couple of times. Wow!
The acceptance of asian actresses into the mainstream was gradual. Nancy is half white, which explains why she's far more attractive than most asian women.
@GarthanSaal444 I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder then. because I've met plenty of beautiful asian women in my life so far. I can't say I've met many beautiful white women though.
@GarthanSaal444 That's a bit misguided. However, I would partially agree if you had said that she was more accepted into mainstream because she's half Asian. You do have to admit that the mainstream has regressed in its acceptance of Asians.
@Graymoths It's has a history of being used as a derogatory term. It's the same as "negro". It's not offensive per se but a word commonly used when blacks were treated like shit.
When Mr. Daly said she was mistaken, that she *had* performed on stage, he was wrong. He thought she had performed as Suzie Wong with the touring company. She corrected him and said she had only been the understudy there too. So Nancy was correct when she earlier answered "No" to whether she had performed on the stage or not.
argh i can't believe they asked her all the same questions i get asked by people i meet for the first time - "what's your nationality? where are you from? oh, asia is such a fascinating place..."
she is gorgeous, I love her sassy character in Flower Drum Song, when I was little I used to hate being Eurasian, its amazing how entirely different I recognize it to be. What was Nancy Kwan's European heritage?
She really was (and still is!) very, very beautiful. And what a fantastic figure, damn near perfect in my book! The yo-yos running the movie industry today would no doubt insist that she lose several inches off those hips...those bastards! LOL.
She still is gorgeous in her way..She's my first cousin (i.e my Fathers sisters daughter). Our Joint Grandmother was May Selina Scott of Anglo Scottish ancestry related to the Becleaugh family. Nancys Mother was known as Marie Scott before she married Nancys Father Heung Kwan. Before her death Nancys Mother called herself Marquita Kwan Torres.
She still does amazing work, however she lost her only son a while back..Bernie Pok. She's my cousin and I'm proud of her.
After watching nearly 80 of these clips of old WML I must honor Mr. Daly with a compliment- he handles each guest with dignity and ease, a sober reminder of the "slacker" approach which most current TV "Hosts" now seem to revel in - these old WML shows reflect the highest civil elegance of our culture it is all but vanished now-a-days, pity...
nationality does not equate to ethnicity... oh well.... just as "kwan" and "kwai" are not the same... kwai was the name of kwai chang caine, little grosshopper! :/
She has an asian accent and the audience was not laughing at it so the panel knew it was not a fake accent. That in itself narrowed it down between her and Anna May Wong who was much older and had a much lower voice. Nancy Kwan was born in China but always answered half-Chinese half-English so she would appear more western.
The point is the general public (and audience) thought of her as Chinese and therefore her very first answers in Chinese accent did not get a laugh from the audience as it would have if it weren't her normal accent. From those first few words (and no response from the audience) they knew it was her. Her could have said anything.
Dec 1960 -- Dorothy is hospitalized a few days after this broadcast.
Culled from Wikipedia
Robert John Graham Boothby, Baron Boothby, KBE (19001986): British Conservative politician, author, and broadcaster. The Queen Mother once described him as a bounder but not a cad, as if THAT made a difference.
Nancy Kwan -- traditional Chinese: 關家蒨; pinyin: Guān Jiāqiàn; Cantonese: Kwan Ka Shin -- unfortunately not quite as well known today as she deserves. Disruptive career problems.
Gorgeous Eurasian beauty.
meg3325 1 month ago
Nancy was a knock out!
sweeney60 1 month ago
She looks like Peachy
TheClam88 1 month ago
the host knows her better then she knows herself...hahahahaha
mineurbizness 1 month ago
Absolutely beautiful.....Loved her in The World of Suzie Wong
pyrofella 5 months ago
In those days saying oriental was not offensive. People simply jump the gun and start pulling the race card. It is true oriental is used for rugs and vases and all that, but it used to mean also people who came from the orient which is the far east. So PC idiots, please shut up and stop spouting your race card crap.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
Writing her name in both Chinese and English. Now, THAT'S cute...and so is Ms. Kwan. In truth, she's one of those women who seem to become that much more attractive as they grow older.
It's interesting that, in "Suzy Wong," she was Bill Holden's romantic vis-a-vis. Offscreen, she would play tennis with his sons, Peter and Scott, during the breaks.
The following year, she would score another success in the film version of "Flower Drum Song." Even with her singing dubbed, she was great.
librarybob1958 5 months ago
Lord Boothby? WTF
Porkularpie 6 months ago
She is so pretty!
ValeriyaAviva 6 months ago 2
I wonder what ever happened to Ms.Kwan?
TheStanbabe 6 months ago
@TheStanbabe She is still around at 72, but has not done too much acting in recent years. She was on a special recently about Asians in Hollywood.
ChicagoSouthDan 6 months ago
@ChicagoSouthDan It was on PBS in 2007, but I did not see it. It was called "Hollywood Chinese". I guess 2007 is not recently :-).
ChicagoSouthDan 6 months ago
She had tremendous legs and glutes...
rasputin63 8 months ago
wow, I knew she does not look pure Chinese, and I am from Hong Kong, I could tell she is mixed, but I really think she had a good mixed parents
tsnowice12 8 months ago
Her look was up to date for a woman her age, not ahead its time.
bopava 8 months ago
The crowd gave it away w/ their responses to the questions...
fbebeats 1 year ago
Bennet invalidated this with his wrong answer "Kwai". hehe He smiles away in ignorance... Usually love ya, Cerf, but you should've apologized to the young lady, or are those exotic names too much for you? :P
SoaringTrumpet 1 year ago
her chinese looks so ugly... XP
(btw my chinese name has only one word different from hers!!!)
denglijunfongyikei 1 year ago
@denglijunfongyikei AND i'm from HK too~ lol
denglijunfongyikei 1 year ago
They always ask "Do you have movie opening on Broadway?" Was there only a few movie theaters in New York back then? I always thought Broadway was for plays and musicals.
nexusutube 1 year ago
@nexusutube Until the 70s'' there were major movie theaters as well-i ncluding Radio City Music Hall. And major premiers, since newspapers and major magazines headquartered in New York would review those major films-more important ofttimes than an L.A premiere. Hard to see now where, 50 years ago, their were TWICE the theatres that exist now in the Broadway district!
MrCappy4 1 year ago
"By what route did you come to stardom in the film? If this is not invading in private affairs." WTF! There's only one thing he could be insinuating there, and I can't believe someone otherwise so well-spoken would make such a rotten remark. Is it okay to imply because she's Asian, sexy, just a woman, what? I know this was a different world and everything but I still can't believe a tv host would imply something so baseless and rather crass on national tv, even if it escaped most of the audience
inqueling 1 year ago
@inqueling You do great disservice to a fine gentleman. A type so sadly rare anymore. You judge his remark by a contemporary perspective where sexual innuendo is constant and intentional-not so in 1960 . Suzie Wong had been a hit on Broadway a couple years before starring France Nuyen-she had begin the film role and then been :"replaced" by Nancy Kwan-a complete unknown with no prior acting experience-she was the understudy! A natural question politely stated-what' rotten is your take on it.
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@inqueling - I have to admit that the way he phrased the question is curious given that he added: "if this is not invading your private affair." While one does have to allow for differing speech patterns of the time, it seems a sexist rematk even for the 60's.
broadjumper1 1 year ago
@broadjumper1 I don't see any sexism at all in Daly's question. At the time, there was some speculation that France Nuyen had not left the cast of "Suzy Wong" willingly but had been fired. Daly simply gave Ms. Kwan an opening to refrain from discussing any unpleasant aspects of the situation. Such respect for another's privacy was common at the time. It's only nowadays that every utterance is screened for its political correctness, and people are EXPECTED to air their dirty laundry in public.
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@dadunham - There was probably nothing improper intended, just curious phrasing. But even if he was referring to Nuyen's departure, it's not likely he would have expected her to say, "Oh I got it because Frances was fired." Afterall, Hollywood was still a studio town in the early 60's It's been suggested that Nuyen was let go (after 5 weeks of filming) because she had gained weight over a troubles in her affair with Marlon Brando and couldn't fit her costumes.
broadjumper1 1 year ago
@broadjumper1 I still think you're missing the overall tenor of the times somewhat. It was a time of much more gentility than today. It would have been important to Daly not just to give Kwan a way to respond flexibly and graciously, but to also make sure he did not appear to be rudely prying. In fact, he quite possibly even asked Kwan prior to the show for permission to ask the question. Even so, he would STILL have added the "if that's not invading" remark just for the appearance of propriety.
dadunham 1 year ago
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@dadunham - Again, it was probably an innocent remark, but it's still curious, somewhat ham-handed phrasing even for that time. And while TV has certainly eliminated any pretense of civility towards public figures or celebrities, people were looking for salacious rumors and dirt even then. I don't believe minority actors (especially female) were given nearly the kind of respect that Caucasian actors received, so it's not far-fetched to question his remark as being less innocent than you assume.
broadjumper1 1 year ago
@broadjumper1 I suppose you could be right. I was only nine years old when that episode of "What's My Line?" first aired. But I grew up among a lot of those old-school gentlemen like Bill Daly, guys whose manner and sensibilities were forged in the 1950s and 1940's (and even earlier). Based on my experiences with them, I can find nothing odd or suspect in Daly's comment. And I am CERTAINLY not going to assume any racism on his part based on such flimsy evidence.
dadunham 1 year ago
@dadunham JOHN Daly, that is! Not Bill! I guess age is creeping up on me quicker than I thought! ;)
dadunham 1 year ago
Damn, she is beautiful!
DareJay 1 year ago
holy shit what a looker
nerdflanders8710 1 year ago
Nancy Kwan was so beautiful and classy. What a lady. =D
SurfWave01 1 year ago 6
Dorothy Kilgallen with that long neck and no chin; with her scummy viciousness; they should have throwed her off the show.
Frank Sinatra used to call her "The Chinless Wonder."
SatchmoSings 1 year ago
@SatchmoSings I guess your conmment should be thrown out. What a baseless comment.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 I can see from your age that Dorothy Kilgallen was not someone of your era and lifetime; you're comment to me is also totally baseless because Kilgallen was not liked by the other panelists; if you'd taken a moment to look this up, maybe you wouldn't have made the same sort of "baseless comment" to ME!
A schmuck like you obviously wouldn't understand people chuckling over Walter Winchell's being castrated because he had prostate cancer. (A standard treatment in "those days.")
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings Wow 'Schnuck' what an unclassy comment from a supposed Ms older and Wiser person. Anyway I googled what you told me, and I can find no record of that. i do however remember reading it on another comment written by maybe you or someone else in another clip. I have not found anything about Walter Winchell's castration. BTW Dorothy died in 1965 'mudered'and Winchell died in 1972. So shut up.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
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SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 You can't seem to understand, let alone accept that quite a few celebrities are pretty scummy human beings.
Mabye once you can learn that, you'll stop being scummy yourself in their defense.
PS, Are YOU saving up for a chin implant? Sounds like you should!
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings Well like I said I found no proof that she ever made fun of Winchell. If there was, then it would be available for everyone to see. So stop acting mean and if you are as old as you say you are, then act like it oldie.
BTW I have a nice chin, do you?
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 I never made the claim that Kilgallen ever said anything shitty about Winchell, genius; learn how to read.
No, I have even less of a chin than Kilgallen, if that makes you feel any better when you're wiping your hand on your "nice" chin after you've finished wiping your buttom with it.
It's a shame you can't find anything about Winchell being castrated because of his prostate cancer; I'm old enough to remember when it happened; maybe a book on Winchell would have this detail.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings worte said, same thing bozo. For an oldie you sure are crude.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 Yes, I am quite crude and it generally comes in rather handy when I'm dealing with a "high-hat" such as yourself.
Please go see a good otolaryngologist to have your sinuses properly drained; maybe that will finally get rid of all that impacted snot out of your nose!
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings Well they say as you get older, you get wiser. In your case, you have become dumber.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 Until I made your acquaintance, I didn't think it possible for a person to sexually assault themselves; I now know that self-ass rape is most definitely a reality.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings Wow for a 57 year old, you seem to be a skunk. You need to learn some manners skunk. You are not that old like you claim. What a filthy liar.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 I'd like you to put me in touch with your mom so she can tell me what it was like to potty-train you; something tells me she was only partly successful.
PS, Why do you keep answering me?
PPS, Look at my two videos!!
PPPS, And yes, I'm quite literally only 56!
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 02. Look, genius; this is the internet; I don't have to have any manners 'cause I have anonymity!
Now then, perhaps you can fill us all in on any and all special techniques you have for self-ass rape!
Also, in moments of angst; do you bite the heads offa one of the chickens you keep around you for precisely this reason?
Why do you keep speaking with me?
Ignore me, and I will no longer talk to you; problem solved!!!
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings Well If i stop commenting back, means that you have won. Fat chance old skunk.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 Okay, honey; have you seen the episode of "What's My Line" the week after Kilgallen died?
Pretty sappy, I'd say.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings Yes and they were all very saddend and shocked at her death. The tributes were all heartfelt and genuine. Now shut up old skunk
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 They were shocked but I doubt saddened; it's just like when you'll croak; people will make the necessary public utterances but in private they'll all be glad you're out of their lives, let alone off the planet!
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings I disagree. One intelligent enough, can clearly see the saddness in their eyes. You know that the eyes are the windows to the soul right? Look at their eyes and you will see that they were truly sad. I can clearly see that in Arlene and John's face.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 Hey, that's your opinion just like when you said that Kilgallen had a good chin; you're such a good judge of everything, NOT!!!
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings And so you are a good judge of everything, NOT!!! By the way i never said that Kilgallen had a good chin. She is dead and so if you have some respect for the dead leave her alone. Shows what sort of background you come from.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 I told you; I drove a taxicab on the mean streets of New York City starting way before Mayor Giuliani got rid of all the junkies and hookers; it wasn't such an easy thing to do.
That, and I was also a bit of a hooker myself.
And yes, I'm PROUD of my background as "street" as it is.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 02. Look, putz, people said shit about Kilgallen while she was alive; Frank Sinatra called her "The Chinless Wonder;" so I say the same thing about people when they're alive and when they're dead.
My parents thought Walter Winchell was a real scumbag and they got a good laugh over the idea of doctors regularly sticking their fingers up his ass to check his prostate cancer let alone his castration; they hated his guts their entire adult lives.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings wow sounds like your parents were jerks too. No wonder you truned out to be like them. I hope you are telling the truth about your parents. If not, then you are a vicious liar and God will punish you.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 Winchell was not a nice man; Rudy Vallee, in his autobiography "Let the Chips Fall Where They May" talks about a betrayal by Winchell; Vallee said he thought Winchell was his friend but Winchell was no one's friend; he only used people and was just too obvious about it.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings Ofcourse what do u expect from a liberal jew. I too have heard stories about winchell. But, i do not wish evil on anyone. If Dorothy made fun of his castration, then that was not very nice of her. However, i cannot find any evidence that she did.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 Uh, you haven't examined "me" too closely; I'm pretty conservative so your calling me a liberal it totally asinine.
I don't know what Kilgallen thought of Winchell; they certainly didn't work through the same syndicate (and I'm sure you didn't know that; you don't even know what a "syndicate" is in this regard).
I do, however, think it neat that Winchell WAS castrated; I think it rather funny and quite "schadenfreude."
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings Well you seem like those silly conservatives that give the rest of us a bad name. Please change if not for your sake, but for the sake of the true conservatives. I think the syndicate would mean the news agency because both of them were in the news business. I'm I right?
And rejoicing at a man's castration is not nice. It can happen to you if you are a man or even if you are a woman it can happen to you. Think about it. You need to shape up there
calihartley2010 5 months ago
@calihartley2010 Winchell was syndicated through "McNaught;" Kilgallen was syndicated through "King Features" which was owned by The Hearst Corporation.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
@SatchmoSings ok. Thanks for the clarification.
calihartley2010 5 months ago
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SatchmoSings 1 year ago
From the first time I saw her in The World of Suzie Wong back in the 60s, I've always thought she was one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. She seems so natural in this clip. Long hair let down, very little make up, and she even put her thumb nervously into her mouth a couple of times. Wow!
frank47hammer 1 year ago
She's a hottie.
ebf1957 1 year ago 3
She is 71 years old now and still looks good!
creolelady182 1 year ago
Beautifulback then and still beautiful now.
OnCloudNine62 1 year ago
i like that weird, glittery little tree thing thats poking out of the top of Arlene Francis' head.I'm pretty sure I need one just like that.
Hatikvah2010 1 year ago 2
The acceptance of asian actresses into the mainstream was gradual. Nancy is half white, which explains why she's far more attractive than most asian women.
GarthanSaal444 1 year ago
@GarthanSaal444 I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder then. because I've met plenty of beautiful asian women in my life so far. I can't say I've met many beautiful white women though.
notadjfor1 1 year ago
@GarthanSaal444 Rather racist comment. A full blooded asian can't be more beautiful than a white women??
Moionfire 1 year ago
@GarthanSaal444 That's a bit misguided. However, I would partially agree if you had said that she was more accepted into mainstream because she's half Asian. You do have to admit that the mainstream has regressed in its acceptance of Asians.
itwillbealright 1 year ago
She's somewhat like Catherine Zeta-Jones of that era.
jenbp60 1 year ago
she played Rod Taylor's girlfriend in movie "Fate is the Hunter".
speedskiff2 1 year ago
Ok, seriously, Nancy Kwan transcends beauty. Just simply a gorgeous individual. And you can tell everyone on the panel and the host knows it.
And I agree, she looks like an anachronism in this clip. WAY ahead of her time. :)
atrac88 1 year ago
She's beautiful. :o
Graymoths 1 year ago
Cerf does sound like a bit of an idiot. Actually, I have a feeling Nancy was probably smarter than any of them.
bashbrannigan 1 year ago
Dorothy knows everybody
henrygrove100 1 year ago
"oriental" girl? back then so politically incorrect. I'm offended.
mrzack888 1 year ago
@mrzack888 Why is the word "oriental" offensive? We use it all the time in Asia. o_o Especially for hotels and resorts.
Graymoths 1 year ago
@Graymoths It's has a history of being used as a derogatory term. It's the same as "negro". It's not offensive per se but a word commonly used when blacks were treated like shit.
melonbarmonster 1 year ago
Wow, what a hottie! She was considered the Asain-Ann Margaret of the '60's.
ch1aka2 1 year ago
Miss Kwai? Who was that idiot?
therealhannoverfisk 1 year ago
Now that would be a "TEN"!!!
obbor4 1 year ago
5-19-2010. She's havin' fun at 71. Happy Birthday, Nancy. You've come a long way since The World of Suzie Wong. Many happy returns.
mkl62 1 year ago
She's got a big ass for a Chinese girl.
level242 1 year ago
Here we have the ridiculous malaproping fool Bennett Cerf calling Nancy Kwan "Nancy Kwai" He is relentless in his stupidity
eb641 1 year ago
I almost shot when she stuck her fingers in her mouth.
nikolasbbq 1 year ago
Eurasian women are so stunning. Her father was Chinese her mother British.
jvarela965 1 year ago 11
holy mother...what a hottie.....
HowardOfOz3565 1 year ago
she was HOT. she still is hot :D
jigsaw9919 1 year ago 3
Lovely. And what goofs they look like with those blindfolds on.
tommytruth 2 years ago
When Mr. Daly said she was mistaken, that she *had* performed on stage, he was wrong. He thought she had performed as Suzie Wong with the touring company. She corrected him and said she had only been the understudy there too. So Nancy was correct when she earlier answered "No" to whether she had performed on the stage or not.
phantominca 2 years ago 2
argh i can't believe they asked her all the same questions i get asked by people i meet for the first time - "what's your nationality? where are you from? oh, asia is such a fascinating place..."
cannishgirl 2 years ago
she is gorgeous, I love her sassy character in Flower Drum Song, when I was little I used to hate being Eurasian, its amazing how entirely different I recognize it to be. What was Nancy Kwan's European heritage?
moonlightorchid99 2 years ago 2
@moonlightorchid99
Nancy`s mother was Scottish.
Gemini730 1 year ago
Can you possibly believe the insufferable Bennet Cerf calling her "NANCY KWAI" ??
eb641 2 years ago 5
So lovely!
pepsibookcat 2 years ago
She shares commentary duties on recently released Flower Drum Song DVD. Seems to be very down to earth. Also quite attractive.
alexalex3131 2 years ago
I loved her in "The Flower Drum Song!"
musiq4dasoul82 2 years ago
incredibly beautiful. i wish there were more asians in lead roles in film/tv
dly1012 2 years ago
Further proof that Eurasian women are some of the most beautiful on the planet.
arnyjk 2 years ago 3
Simply Beautiful....no other words can describe her.
twilson11208 2 years ago
shes so giggly...
karistar90 2 years ago
BEAUTIFUL
aydan14 2 years ago
She really was (and still is!) very, very beautiful. And what a fantastic figure, damn near perfect in my book! The yo-yos running the movie industry today would no doubt insist that she lose several inches off those hips...those bastards! LOL.
dadunham 2 years ago
She still is gorgeous in her way..She's my first cousin (i.e my Fathers sisters daughter). Our Joint Grandmother was May Selina Scott of Anglo Scottish ancestry related to the Becleaugh family. Nancys Mother was known as Marie Scott before she married Nancys Father Heung Kwan. Before her death Nancys Mother called herself Marquita Kwan Torres.
She still does amazing work, however she lost her only son a while back..Bernie Pok. She's my cousin and I'm proud of her.
andrenuk 2 years ago 5
After watching nearly 80 of these clips of old WML I must honor Mr. Daly with a compliment- he handles each guest with dignity and ease, a sober reminder of the "slacker" approach which most current TV "Hosts" now seem to revel in - these old WML shows reflect the highest civil elegance of our culture it is all but vanished now-a-days, pity...
rentatrip1 2 years ago 5
I always confuse Nancy with ...Miss France Nuyen, once wife of Robert Culp----
rentatrip1 2 years ago
Agree with videosoulbygreg, heard she was a bitch working with her
sweetiepillow 2 years ago
fuck, she was gorgeous
ooks 2 years ago
She was stunning! Thank goodness for Pearl Cream.
FergusMcDopey 2 years ago
white people are not discrimanate back then??? just curious??
havery8 2 years ago
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She always looked full Chinese to me. She was pretty but got kind of matronly when older but I loved her in the Wrecking Crew with Sharon Tate.
DA90027 2 years ago
nationality does not equate to ethnicity... oh well.... just as "kwan" and "kwai" are not the same... kwai was the name of kwai chang caine, little grosshopper! :/
xibanyae 2 years ago 2
Nancy Kwan Ka Sin, one of Hong Kong's favourite daughters.
ianmann64 2 years ago
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ianmann64 2 years ago
Her look is way ahead of its time. She looks like a modern girl that was pasted into the scene
baracuda5555 2 years ago 42
@baracuda5555 Yeah, but with class and no trashiness like today's modern girls
calihartley2010 5 months ago
I graduated from a school on a military base in Asia...and I've seen lots of "mixed" kids (and I'm one myself).
To me, she does have a hint of Asia but is one of those girls that has her European side out strong as well....
Anyway, she is pretty. :D
OldTimerGoGetter 2 years ago
It's starting to seem like Dorothy was hospitalized a few days after every episode!
Bigwave2003 2 years ago
i was in love with nancy kwan back in the day
CRAZOLA3 2 years ago
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According to Shatner she was a bitch to work with.
videosoulbygregg 2 years ago
You've mistaken her with France Nuyen, who played Suzie Wong on Broadway and was fired from the film. The Shat also has a bitch reputation
yongary01 2 years ago 2
Also portrayed the beautiful nightclub dancer in 'Flower Drum Song.' One fabulous babe!!
mca1218 3 years ago 4
Apparently Orienal was not offensive at this time.
zgreggz82 3 years ago
How is it offensive now?
UofLCardFan08 3 years ago
Asian in the politically correct word. Oriental is offensive.
videosoulbygregg 2 years ago
It is still used in Britain. There "Asian" refers to Indians and Pakistanis.
yongary01 2 years ago
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i dont care what is used in britain its OFFENSIVE oriental refers to objects as in rugs ..vases
asian is the correct term for the people of asia ( which does include indians pakistains AND japaneses chinese filipino etc
are you just trying to be offensive or are you stupid?
squeaky00 2 years ago
But Japan and the Philippines are islands and not part of any continent?
FancyUnicorn 2 years ago
She looks like she's mixed
wilburbonzo 2 years ago
She has an asian accent and the audience was not laughing at it so the panel knew it was not a fake accent. That in itself narrowed it down between her and Anna May Wong who was much older and had a much lower voice. Nancy Kwan was born in China but always answered half-Chinese half-English so she would appear more western.
MalubaySyecado 3 years ago
No, she answered because it was true - her mother was from Scotland.
1borito 2 years ago 4
The point is the general public (and audience) thought of her as Chinese and therefore her very first answers in Chinese accent did not get a laugh from the audience as it would have if it weren't her normal accent. From those first few words (and no response from the audience) they knew it was her. Her could have said anything.
MalubaySyecado 2 years ago 3
She was such a mix of beauty and talent..and still is.
monroeos 3 years ago 4
Beautiful lady.
Muirmaiden 3 years ago 26
I had no idea Nancy Kwan was not 100% Chinese. Whatever she is, she is simply lovely.
senoramariposa 3 years ago 5
That guy got her name wong. [smirk]
FriendGiskard 3 years ago
Very sexy girl.
gandy74 3 years ago 3
There's a recent photo of her on Wikipedia; she's quite well preserved.
kolst8406 3 years ago
Dec 1960 -- Dorothy is hospitalized a few days after this broadcast.
Culled from Wikipedia
Robert John Graham Boothby, Baron Boothby, KBE (19001986): British Conservative politician, author, and broadcaster. The Queen Mother once described him as a bounder but not a cad, as if THAT made a difference.
Nancy Kwan -- traditional Chinese: 關家蒨; pinyin: Guān Jiāqiàn; Cantonese: Kwan Ka Shin -- unfortunately not quite as well known today as she deserves. Disruptive career problems.
soulierinvestments 3 years ago
Thank you!!
weatdamal 3 years ago