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  • You expect too much from politicians. I guess if we imprisoned them the instant they got elected we'd be far better off. ALL of them, LOL.

    Anyway Obama is several orders of magnitude better than your dear Bush. And you re-elected Bush... o wonder of wonders. You masochists?.

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  • @bloodstone256

    Well, it just means we need to be more savvy when it comes to politics and hold our elected officals acountable. Also, we need to be able to accept the the truth so that politicians won't have to use petty pandering and other placating schemes to keep themsleves in office.

  • I love the description of what it looks like from the position of being NOT on the receiving end of the gun !

    Goddamn ! What an image to behold - to be in such a position of power to where you are totally secure and popularly sought after !

    The perfect stage for a sociopath to live , and move , and to be !

    Frustratingly , there will always be this disturbing element in human behavior , and that just like shit , these sub-humans always seem to float to the top of power !

    What can we do about it?

  • According to American supports of Obama, stefbot's rant against him is pure racism.

  • Wow this was two years ago, you called it accurately back then!. As time goes by the truth become so much clearer! Thank You Stefan! Love your insights.

  • Absolutely beautiful and touching as always. I cannot express how inspiring Stefan's videos are. His words are like music to my ears and his prose are highly entertaining.

  • Nixon to China: A fascistic Black Man: serfdom. ??? Surfedom began with Obama? It took a black man? Obama is not a figure head? His "blackness" figures how? Your statement needs amplification. It's illogical and subjective.

  • Camp X-ray is just like Treblinka, eh? Dick Durbin just favorited this video.

  • I love the train of thought on which you take us for a ride. Thank you very much for helping me understand the people on the other side of the river.

  • gitmo is not like concentration camps. those people that are in gitmo get food, medical, clothing. unlike like the poor souls in concentrations camps in ww2. you probably had more stupid things to say but i didnt want to waste my time

  • @macant79 Provide some evidence for your statement instead of insulting

  • Are we to believe the "confessions" under duress and torture at the Nurembourg trials and the execution of a few patsies to be justice? What of the Western bankers and military industrial complex that bankrolled and built Hitler's war machine? Got off scot-free, as usual.

  • Obama is NOT a narcisist!

    He's going to do the best he can for this country at a time when it would help us the most!

    Are you even a United States Civilian?!? Because if you're not & if you've never been one than you have NO RIGHT to make such accusations!

    ...

    Of course torture should NO be accepted into U.S.A. law! if it alreadyis than I'm sure that it'll get repealed from the U.S.A. law system by 2012!

  • @Copper4head Another cult worshiper. Not only is Obama a narcissisit, he's a liar and and morally reprehensible.

  • @pretorious700

    I'm not a cult worshiper & I think that you ought to explain your point to me; or can we not have a reasonable discussion concerning this, because you refuse to?

  • @Copper4head Actually, US citizens by and large are the least qualifeid people to have an informed opinion about Obama, because of the corrupt propaganda machine called "public education".

  • @pretorious700

    And would you have all education privatized?!?

    I strongly disagree with that stance & you will NOT be abler to persuade me otherwise. However, the public education system does need some improvement!

  • @St8ist68 And this is of course the problem. The people are taxed by the govt, the states lobby hard for money, and the local govts lobby hard for some of that money, with which police are paid. The chain of accountability is thus extremely muddled, and so complex that the average person does not pay attention. I'd rather pay a private agency for protection, and be treated like a customer, rather than a "lowly civilian."

  • mandatory volunteerism

  • "Obama" ! A black waste of HUMAN SHIT !,,

  • A libertarian appealing for the interest of the crippled, disenfranchised, and poor.....

    Hitler in a Synagogue.

    At least he admitted to Libertarianism not having the answer to health care, even if it was out of duplicity.

    I mean...honesty....I don't trust the government either, but I trust purely profit-driven, privatized corporations infinitely less, which is what conservative libertards place faith in. At least the government partially answers to votes, and not just money.

  • If only politicos weren't driven by money too

  • @Eldeecue. Ok... I believe you are blurring some distinctions here... If you have time, check out:

    THE IRON FIST BEHIND THE INVISIBLE HAND

    Corporate Capitalism As a State-Guaranteed System of Privilege

    by Kevin A. Carson

    Let me know what you think (if you want)..........

  • @Eldeecue left libertarianism is just as critical of mega corp as it is of mega govvvvvv......

  • @Eldeecue The corporations about which you worry are really arms of the government. The corporations of today could not exist in their current form in a free society. The govt gun is what gives them the ability to be so corrupt, and it is what removes the only effective regulation: risk-bearing. Your use of terms like "libertard" betrays your lack of confidence in your argument. If you really have something meaningful to say, you should try to say it without the insults.

  • I have an idea for a law: If you are running for office, everything you say should be said under threat of perjury. If you hold office, everything you tell the public should be said under threat of perjury.

  • That is absolutely false, the federal government does not pay for state police

  • What is this, a Marx Brothers routine? I'm done here.

  • "...in conformity to the dictates of the law, Linda did not carry any weapon for self-defense. Thus, by a rather bitter irony she was required to rely for protection on the City of New York which now denies all responsibility to her."

    -- dissenting opinion, Riss v. City of New York

    "...a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen."

    -- Warren v. District of Columbia

  • Multiple appeals courts have ruled that the government isn't responsible for protecting you. See Bowers v. Devito, Warren v. DC, Souza v. City of Antioch, and several others.

  • That's exactly why we the ppl should have the right to bear arms.

  • Obama said he was going to do something, but it didn't happen, therefor he lied!

  • Veterans Disarmament Act is now Law

    Congress knows that bloodshed is inevitable in America given the outstanding debt & rapid collapse of the US Dollar. They also know Veterans will likely be the first to stand up against Gov tyranny through guerrilla Warfare.

    Basically, Veterans names are now being put into the Brady Instant Check Data Base to block Veterans from being allowed to own or carry guns of any type

  • I agree with some of what this guy says, however, I still think a better educated populace would therefore make better, informed decisions, political or otherwise. By that same token, a better educated populace would FORCE politicians not to pander and make false promises to appeal to the less educated. The fact is, it's a two way street. Politicians often lie because they need votes. They get votes because people aren't educated enough to listen to sheer logic and instead rely on emotion.

  • I wonder how we can force politicians to do whatever we want, given that they have the military, the police, the law courts and prisons?

  • Isn't that what the power of the vote is for in the American system? We vote for people that make up the goverment. Granted, some of them are then are appointed by those very same people, but all these people start out as private citizens until we give them that power. I know you don't like the idea of goverments because of the amount of control and power and the abuses that can come with it, but how about trying to make goverments work for the people? After all, aren't the people the goverment?

  • How to educate the people if the government provide education and as you can see it's not working. The better education is normally given to the children of the people that benefit from the system and therefore have more to loose, wont take a stand even if they agree things are wrong and also are not affect by the imoralities of the system

  • @stefbot

    I hate you!

  • @Dyakki why should we assume that the average American is too uneducated to choose their leaders and that those leaders should be liars? What does that say about us? If that's what everyone expects then what will we continue to get? More apathy and lies. How about let's have faith in each other and pick those who tell the TRUTH for a change! Like RON PAUL!

  • When and where did you or I ever knowingly give up the personal sovereignty we were born with?

    Remember, rights that are granted by a government are not rights at all. They are "Privileges" which can be taken away. This happens all the time.

    Read the Constitution in detail. Being a Citizen of the United States is a condition of total servitude.

    What you refer to above is a democracy. So, how many votes does it take to vote the pants off of a woman?

    Democracy is mob rule!

  • I think we can both agree that slavery is against natural law (and statutory law if it matters).

    So, how can the government be allowed to take you to court and put you in jail if you don't voluntarily follow every statute "The representatives" vote into law?

    Where did you ever volunteer to give these people authority over you?

  • All of those countries have spent generations brainwashing people to love their slavery.

    Remember, the second a "Citizen" doesn't do what they want, they show up with guns and use violence to FORCE their agenda.

    Same with the United States, but we live in a free country <--- yeah right.

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  • I believe your moral equivocation of gitmo to the holocaust is very bad idea. You are relating a POW camp to a purpose made murder factory.

    I'm am not going to defend gitmo as being a morally good thing. It is evil, many parts of it are unjustifiably so, but the idea of detaining enemy combatants or potential combatants is not a new concept.

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  • @bloodstone256

    You disagree that a prison is not a murder factory?

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  • @bloodstone256

    You miss the point. You are saying that a prison is as bad as a purpose made murder factory. That imprisoning those who who either have or may fight against you is as bad as intentionally attempting to exterminate an entire race of people. What kind of drugs are you on exactly? At the very best, you are equating kidnap with murder on the hierarchy of crimes, at worst, you're equating a very poorly executed form of self defense with the same.

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  • @bloodstone256

    "In the German camps many Jews, and others, did die tragically, but there were no systematic gassing executions of Jews."

    Yep, now I know the drugs you're on, why do you think they bought so much zyklon b, and kept detailed notes about how many people they were killing, and starving to death?

    "Stop being in denial and wake up."

    I don't need to, I'm not the one denying the holocaust, you are. You'll also note I never said Getmo was good, you keep putting those words there.

  • President Obama , is doing a good Job. You dont knowwhat you taking about.

  • "You dont knowwhat you taking about."

    Thank you for making Stefan's point.

  • European nations don't maintain currently an empire and let their people pay higher taxes.

  • u be talkin shit bout my boy...you da one lying homeboy

  • Links not Allowed:

    Search "Rule of Law" rossb

    Search: "Darwin Reconsidered" rossb

    Search: "Mathematics of Rule" rossb

    Last post.

  • "The Rule of Law" is the glue that keeps all of mankind acting together in common interest, tied together by mutual dependence of trade, on an evolutionary path to excellence. Force and fraud creates conflict and destroys civilizations. Mankind is now on a devolutionary path to extinction because the co-operation once forced by "the rule of law" has been replaced by legitimizing force and fraud for those who incorrectly believe they wield power.

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  • the suppression of forceful or fraudulent methods of goal seeking

    all are treated equally by the law.

    absolute property rights

    This is based on the fact that behavior (the topic of law) is about goal seeking. In the seeking of any goal, there are only three possible methods: force, fraud and honest trade. Any transaction that is not an honest, mutually agreed trade will cause a self-defensive response (conflict) from the victim whose survival has been affected.

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  • When discussing which side of the gun one is on, you are really talking about perspective in an artificially created reality or environment. These issues are not amenable to reasoned argument nor compromise. The courage displayed by our ancestors in fighting tyranny is required.

    The "rule of law" is a precisely defined law. It is the highest law of mankind, stated below:

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  • Where were u with all this diatribe when Bush was in office? U in all your clap-trap did nothing to prove your case that Obama has told any lies! I have no doubt he will lie but you didn't produce anything to back up your claim.

    & as for him claiming to have all the answers-- well what would U expect him to say--" I really don't have shit to offer"(?) & ABOUT these "pointed guns"--did you use similar phrases regarding Bush?-- ARE u SUGGESTING SOMETHING? c'mon Stefan GET BACK ON THE BALL!!!

  • I know this isn't too helpful of an observation, but people who use WAY TOO MANY CAPITAL LETTERS like they're FREAKING OUT, make poor use of AOL chat style abbreviations like they're still 10 years old, and end sentences with triple exclamation points, are really telling us all to simply disregard what they're trying to say. Even if what you're saying is intelligent and valid, it's real hard to say you seriously when you write like an angry lunatic.

  • Diarrhea of the mouth and brain? I think so.

  • logorrhea

  • Speaking of pompous windbags. . . this guy needs to take a seminar on getting to the point.

  • And you're right there on the whole cringeworthy thing, mate. :)

    It amazes me that anyone takes Blair and Brown seriously- in fact, 99% of the loony left, actually!

  • This is a perfect example of why there should be no arguments in the USA to take rights away from EVERYONE, that when rights are threatened, EVERYONE should stand to defend them, irrespective of political outlook. In that respect, the party system has completely failed as a representative system, and has divided us into social groups. Due to the PATRIOT Act, YOU or your loved ones could EASILY have been placed in Gitmo, with no recourse, and that your tax dollars paid for torture.

  • Thank you. I enjoyed that very much. The United States is an illusion, but we are still enslaved.

  • OT - can anyone identify the headset/mic he's using?

  • I wish more people saw the world this way. More and more are waking up to how stupid and ridicule a society we live in but as long as the same few hold the gun not much will change.

  • this communist propergander has been reported to the FBI.

  • Communist?!

    Plz get your scapegoat-system readjusted, it's "terrorist" now, not "communist" anymore, stupid moron!

  • i have just reported you for threatening my life to the FBI

  • Life on the other side of the gun is probally the best metaphor ive heard in a while.

  • Nice work Stef!

  • a concentration camp? isn't that a place where people are worked to the point of starvation and executed en masse point blank using firing squads, poison gas, ovens not because they were combatants, but because of their heritage or race. I don't see the comparison to guantanamo bay prisoners neither in scale or in methods.

  • No, a cocentration camp is anywhere that a population is forced to liev in a smaller space (concentrated).

    A camp site, or butlins, would be a concentration camp, if it were used to house the local occupants, in the event of an earthquake. Not the same as Aushwitz, but the only difference is the treatment of the occupants, NOT the definition.

    WE put Germans in concentration camps, rather than prisons, when they were here.

    And army barracks could eb described as a concentration camp.

  • This president is an embarrassment. NEXT

  • Buy all the ammunition you can afford. Soon the government will buy up and dry up all the available ammunition.

  • well said .. as usual.. obama as all presidents since JFK have been liars and scumbags and we now, over the last 9 years are seeing the cream of the crop.

  • Brilliant as usual, Stefan.

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  • From a phillosophical point of view, and looking at the world the way it is, I am tempted to believe that WW3 might clear the air a bit.

    (providing its not nuclear, chemical, or biologigal, of course)

  • It's all a big Club,.... and your not in it..... point that barrel the other way....

  • O-BAMM-A? I thought it was pronounced OH BOMB UH. Have I got my own pres wrong or do you? hehehe

  • This is just some senseless nitpicking that doesn't deal with the content of the argument.

  • This? By THIS do you mean YOUR comment? Or do you mean Stefan's entire vid? Or... did you mean MY comment? Which was actually not a comment but a question. I want to know why he said OH BAM UH and not OH BOMB UH as 99.999999% of everyone I've heard says. Has he not listened to even ONE newscast about the pres?

  • Holy shizznit. Are you telling me that people pronounce things differently in this world? Damn foreigners. Why don't they go back to their own solar system. Kirk out.

  • Holy crap, DClugi! Are you telling me that there isn't a huge difference in pronouncing common words differently and pronouncing the last name of the president of one of the largest countries in the world differently? Especially when it gets pronounced the same way 24/7 on any newscast?

    It's like Bush calling Sadam SAD UM instead of SUH DOM.

    Wow. Spock out.

  • I realise that far too many words have been wasted on this topic but me mum's a brit and she's all about the O-bamma. It's a big world and I know it's tough to live with so much variety. Perhaps the Daleks (Dah-Lex) will sort us out:)

  • It's a big world and I know it's tough to live with so much variety.>>>

    variety or ignorance? there are still some unstable individuals that think W was a good president. america is morally corrupt.

  • Agreed. My comment refers to the pronounciation of Obama. A silly topic not worth prolonging.

  • "Doubt, insecurity, and struggle are the hallmarks of a civilized thinker."

    Fascinating!

  • I feel like I just went to a chiropractor ....except now that my insights are better understood and organized ....i don't feel any better...in fact I feel worst!

  • "malignant narcissist "..Steff have you been listening to the new Rush cd? lol

  • The way the light reflects off your eyes in this video, they sort of look like two little FDR logos

  • Very refreshing and intellectual..Cant wait for the next True News vid Stebot,your descriptive analogy's of the present world times you speak of,i find them some what funny,as i chuckle to my self and say WAKE UP ALL OF YOU!!

    Peace

  • Man... I like most of your videoes, but sometimes you simply are too damn naive for my taste, Stefan. The only reason I don't unsubscribe after watching this, is because you have some great points in other areas of reasoning.

    2 Stars...

    It suck mostly because you call this series True News, while being highly biased.

    News should never be based on such biased views, as those you present...

  • I agree, Stef is biased to the truth.

  • ...steam and lava hissing up!.. BRILLIANT!!

  • Yes, its the same all over isnt it ?

    Even my hairdresser started talking to me about it the other day - but in a serious and knowledgable way.

    she knows LOADS.

    i doubt she knows ANYTHING else.

  • But, overall, i would say the military would be BETTER in many cases, if judging you, than the stinking lawyers we have on courts.

    If you punch someone, the military will assess the danger to the community, and probably give oyu some beatly exercise or a bit of a beating, to teach you a lesson.

    The courts will lie and shout, as though you are the fireking devil, and give you as many years in prison as your own words will authorise them to.

    And they have NO sense of pain,custhey never feel it.

  • But yes, I would have beat you up if my RSM told me to.

  • And all this economy is bullsht, just as stefbot says.

    It is in the minds of the rich.

    All we need is food and warmth. The rest is ipod and playstation (unnessecary).

    ALL the rush, and boom and bust, and panic is ALL because these idiots who went to University, to learn how to WIN, in the FALSE system, can't believe it wont work.

    Im a plumber, and even i can see that its all a load of bull !

    Its JUST to keep me occupied, in useless labour, so that I am AVAILABLE for any other purposes.

  • I found myself in an interesting debate yesterday on facebook, employing many of your contentions against violence. There was a bond issue in our small town of 5-6k for the city to purchase a failed golf course and some undeveloped land for a park. It is amazing the level of inconsistency in a town that most would claim to be conservatives.

    In short, I'm drinking your Kool-aid, I seriously hope its not poison. Can rationality exist in a human society? I hope, but I doubt it.

  • "Time makes more converts than reason", Thomas Paine

  • The ONLY solution, to prevent revolution and chaos, is for NO man, to tell another what to do, ever !

    As soon as peopel start bossing each other around, rebellion comes into a mans mind.

    But the rich and powerful, cant help believing, that if they send a few policemen to beat you up, your will to resist will collapse, and you will become obedient.

    In reality, the working clas just wait and watch, and learn. Then they tell their kids "NEVER LET THE BSTDS GRIND YOU DOWN"

    And then, one day.....

  • That is wonderful, well done! :) As for the question as to whether or not rationality exists in human society, you are rational, and you exist.

  • The more I think the less rational I feel, the more hypocritical and the more conflicted. Every rational thought, it seems, is a rabbit hole and nothing seems to make sense. I cling to the Proverb that God laid the foundation of the Universe as wisdom, so by faith I believe there is rationality, but I strain to see it.

  • Dont worry, i feel like that, every evening nathanjonessr. But if i dont play on you tube, i am fine. this is heavy talk, really, and is the EXTREME of your beliefs, where peopel are talking abuot the fundementals of our lives, in the near and far future. It is natural for you to get wound up about it.

    But just remmebr, people are discussing their core beliefs here, rather than what is acceptable in every day life.

    Stefbot does NOT shout all this at everyone he meets. He keeps it in here.

  • Im not saying its not good to learn on here. It is very enlighteneing and feels good to listen to. he is a natural speaker and leader, but you have to keep it in perspective.

    Unfortunately, some peopel watch these kinds of vids and go mnuts and kill their families.

    Nort stefbot perhaps, but the kind of vids which constantyl repeat that there is no hope and the freemaosns are gonna kill you. Its ture, but its not so urgent, and intelligent thought and reason can combat their little plans.

  • Do you ever think that we are going to have an anarchistic world anytime soon? The way you talk about anarchy seems to me that the only way to change into an 'anarchy' world is by changing all nations into anarchies at the same time,which seems impossible to me,I think small goverments is the closest to anarchy which human beings are ever going to achieve

  • If you have an anarchistic society, the commies or royalists next to you, will invade you with a large, organised and totallitarian system. Therefore, i thnk you are totaly right.

    But WHO will enforce the anarchical system ? A Monarch ? A Govt ?

    Thats how we got here.

    The vikings were anarchists, and they did have it good, but eventually they got screwed by more organised societies.

  • Well I think Stef knows how people can have better lifes and such but I dont think he knows how to turn the world into an anarchy,well we must remember that he is a 'philosopher' after all....

  • great vid stef

  • Just a minor point that does not invalidate the argument. Treblinka was a death camp, there were no prisoners there, basically everyone was killed on arrival there.

    But that's just one thing, the argument is good in my opinion :).

  • In the United States, the people have the right to own guns. Gun=political power. This is why the founders of the United States made the 2nd amendment. The purpose of the 2nd amendment was made for people to resist a tyrannical & oppressive government. If these elites arrogantly think, they can suspend the U.S. constitution, the guns will be pointed at them. The soldiers and the police can refuse to follow unconstitutional orders. I think the people had just about enough with this b.s..

  • People may be 'granted the right' to own guns because of the magical pixie dust sprinkled over the Bill of Rights (thus making it legitimate to our masters) however the monopoly on the moral right to initiate violence lays with The State. That is immoral, illogical, and barking mad.

  • Yeah, as a US citizen, you can own guns. But only toy guns, for hunting and target shooting. And nothing too big or useful in combat. And you can't carry guns concealed unless you jump through a bunch of hoops first. And you can't own or carry guns at all if you're a felon.

    Wait. It doesn't seem like the state gives a damn about your right to own guns, does it?

  • We can own just about any gun the military has which is equal to or less than 12.7mm or .50 cal. You can buy machine guns, and artillery pieces if your state allows you to buy a class 3 license. Other than that, most people with clean record can own the semi-automatic version of the military firearm which isn't classified to be a cannon. Some states have restrictions on how many rounds a magazine can hold.

  • which state are you talking about. Even though there are some restrictions that are commonplace. Most states have very lax gun laws. For instance here in kentucky. While it's true you can't carry concealed without a permit you are certainly legal to carry in the open. Which I do whenever I go out. There is a small list of places off limits. Ironically government buildings a other places. Also anyone can buy a gun through a private purchase. no permit needed to carry openly in car,privatetransfer

  • "The state" is a way of broadly referring to gov't.

    What I was trying to illustrate is that US gov't, national, state, and local, doesn't hesitate to limit this "right to arms," which is a fantasy anyway.

  • You don't have a right b/c it's written on a piece of paper. You have a right only to the extent that other acknowledge it, and gov'ts don't recognize a right to arms, no matter what some piece of paper might read. If they did, their citizens could buy cruise missiles if they liked. Pistols and rifles are trifles, compared to the arms the state possesses and uses.

  • I wouldn't disagree. I was just pointing out that overall, most of the states in the US have lax gun laws. It's the feds that have created stricter laws regarding firearms.

  • I'm 18 and I don't want to be part of Obama's civilian national security force, how do I get out of it?

  • RUN! Honestly, run. If you want additional incentive, read up on Hitlerjugen- Hitler's youth. In Poland we had some neat ways of avoiding military service, back when it was mandatory. The most popular was a medical waiver. Bribe a doctor, get a disability. But I have no idea if it would work in the US.

  • I dont know man, I think your fucked.

  • This is the last thing you need to be worrying about. Like any politician, Obama is a modern day prince. To maintain his power as such, he need only maintain the institutions w/ which the people are familiar. His predecessors laid the groundwork, and he's likely of no mind to change it.

    He isn't going to re-institute conscription in any sense, for the same reason he isn't going to decriminalize marijuana or reform the tax code or do anything innovative: he won't jeopardize his power.

  • WOW !!!!

    I like the end very telling.

  • I agree that Guantanamo is a concentration camp.

    Both Bush and Hitler were convinced they had the right and duty to punish evil human beings and to humiliate and to abuse them in every way possible.

    And how do we know the prisoners were evil?

    On the say of both governments basically, absent any due process of law.

  • The part where you talked about the two sides of the gun... that was incredibly powerful for me. I don't think I've thought about what it must be for the politicians.

    Thanks a million, as always.

  • LOL, "O-Bam-ma"

  • Stef, I enjoy your work, but I feel the comparison between Gitmo and Auschwitz is bordering on the absurd.

  • If somone points a gun at my head tommorrow and says, "get out of the big rig asshole, were taking the food", I would say, "ok" and wonder if the gunman/gunwomen are gonna mess me up or maybe kill me. If they let me go, I would just eventually be given a new truck and I'd be happy to be working again. I might think of something else as a defense, maybe I would cowardly plead for my life. Maybe the military would provide some sort of support, like a convoy, if they did, I would probobaly quit.

  • Wait. You're comparing a maximum security prison to a concentration camp? I think you need to reevaluate the differences.

    A. Gitmo, prisoners are well fed, given private rooms, exercise, etc.

    B. Nazi death camp, people are gassed, burned alive, starved, executed, and thrown into mass graves.

  • lol @ you, you think being at gitmo is like going on holiday

  • You might want to read the stuff to the right, under the video title...

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  • Excellent points. I admire your passion.

  • There is a big difference between power and authority. They have the power (guns), but they will NEVER have the authority.

  • Heh, comparing Auschwitz with Gitmo...WOW

  • Do you really know if they are that different?

    One thing for sure: the government lies, it lies all the time, even when the truth would serve it well.

  • Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence. Any man who has once proclaimed violence as his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle.

    Alexander Solzehnitsyn

  • The difference is only in degree.

  • Great point 14min. bankers are holding the gun.

  • Yes, I've asked myself the same thing many times. I came to a similar conclusion; delusion of grandeur for lack of better words.

    Obama is a very obvious case. He was paid to write a book on a topic which eludes me right now and he decided to turn the project into a book about himself.

    This must be the way these guys think: Why write about something boring when I can write about MYSELF?

  • This is absolutely brilliant! Obviously, shaybshay (another commenter) doesn't agree. Wonder why he/she thinks that the gitmo detainees were "found on the battlefield"? I dunno, I wasn't there, but I doubt this is the case. They just sort of appeared there, as if by magic, per my recollection.

    Love your vids, Bro, and your thought process!

    *****

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  • I may not agree with the gap in magnitude of metaphor but I think the point is that the perpetrators of the torture are getting away with it when there was a promise of accountability in change. The fact that change was a cover, not remedy, highlights the democratic bankruptcy of our system.

    Don't let the flash of the argument trick you into discounting the applicability...

  • The people who actually administer the torture should be held most responsible.

  • They are just following orders, barccy

  • Assuming you are serious, you forget people have the free will to accept or reject "orders".

    Someone saying something isn't a crime. Actually physically violating someone's person is.

  • When the threat of death or being ostracized by society is the result of an action, who actually has the will to do such a thing, very few, and too few to make a difference. They are shot, banished, whatever. Also, why would they bother thinking of such as a person? They are most likely brainwashed sheep, just like most christian american sheep.

  • Oh, noes! der fuhrer won't be my bestestest friend if I don't rape, flog, starve, beat, work, and execute this 14 year old jewess over the course of months and incinerate her carcass in a furnace.

    There is an inherent almost instinctual repulsion to death and violence present in every living being.

    I guess I'm making the jumping off the bridge argument here.

    Everyone has to decide, and in the end are only responsible for themselves.

  • It's true that those who physically do violence to others are most responsible for their actions. Still there is something to be said for the fear of the punishment and/or ostracism that may follow from disobedience, especially where soldiers and police are concerned.

    Also I think you'll agree that the rich, clever, and powerful who incentivize and enable "hit men," share in in the responsibility of each violent act, and so cumulatively do much more evil than their subordinates.

  • Everyone is entirely responsible for their actions.

    I'm not saying that coercion, social acceptance and cultural expectations have no motivating influence, but the individual still makes a decision at the personal level. Only an individual's brain controls his muscles. Whoever went along with such a thing would be a cowardly, pathetic, sorry, slave

    Yes, the second part definitely.

  • Do you think a woman who submits to a rapist at gunpoint is "entirely responsible" for her choice not to resist? Choice is an action, even under duress. She could have chosen to be shot.

    Of course you don't think that. Violent coercion from another shifts some part of one's responsibility onto that other. There comes a point that responsibility is shifted entirely to that other (I'd say this is the case for the woman.).

  • One cannot surrender control they never had.

    Choice is a decision, and can be to act in a certain way.

    She is entirely responsible for her choice, not for the event happening. Because the rapist used coercion, he is responsible for the injustice.

  • A soldier who kills an enemy under orders (coercion) is not entirely responsible for that murder. I'd say he has the greatest share of responsibility, but some would argue.

    Most "hit men" are quite brave, and I doubt many of them are sociopaths. I think they just can't see their moral inconsistency, b/c they've been taught to ignore it. While that arguably makes them pathetic, you should remember it doesn't make them less human, if you're to be any more consistent than they. All the best.

  • That soldier is entirely responsible for his part, being the actual killer.

    I didn't mean they were to be regarded as any less human.

  • Military orders are backed by violent coercion, by guns.

    The soldier controls his rifle, bodily, but so long as his orders influence his actions, he acts under duress. Likewise a woman exerts control over her bodily resistance to the armed rapist, but so long as his gun influences her actions, she acts under duress. The only difference between the two scenarios is degree of duress, far greater in the latter.

  • "Military orders are backed by violent coercion, by guns."

    US soldiers are not coerced into joining the military. And whilst in the military they are sworn to uphold both the constitution and the Geneva convention.

    Orders that violate these laws and principles are supposed to be challenged.

    Further if they objected to the orders there are many forms of resistance including, challenge, requesting reassignment, obstruction, incompetence, etc.

    i.e. the raped submits, they don't embrace.

  • The wages that are used to pay the soldiers are ripped from the citizenry by force.

  • "The wages that are used to pay the soldiers are ripped from the citizenry by force."

    While that is true that also does not excuse the soldier from their participation and acceptance of those wages. Even having made the error of enrolment they have many means to avoid or mitigate immoral acts.... challenge orders, requesting reassignment, mission obstruction, deliberate order misinterpretation, work to rule, incompetence, etc.

    Soldiers are obligated to to act morally like any other person.

  • My RSM was a really nice guy, and would have risked hi slife to save mine, or any squaddie.

    But if i came out with any of that stuff you suggest: questioning orders, asking for reassignment etc., he would have kisked the crap out of me.

    It doesnt mater what the rules say - they WOUDL kick the crap out of you, then buy you a drink, down the pub.

    Nect day, you would be back on side !

  • So you would strive to be an excellent torturer if ordered to do so?