I am very familiar with what has become one of the most dreadful military blunders, underpinned with gross arrogance and rivalry, in British history. That said, I felt this documentary had less impact than a school production. The voice-over is bland, the content stripped of the real meat and a great chance to portray this infamous charge - lost. A 5 out of 10 effort and a waste of viewing time.
So much is told about the Light Brigade charge but hardly anything about the Heavies superb charge earlier in the day. This was one of the finest moments for British cavalry, again against superior numbers but the Russians were severely checked. The Lights may have made a Russian retreat a rout but for Cardigan not being at his post (!!!). Cardigan was brave but was never a good general but amatuerism was pervasive in the army at this time. Too often the British really were "lions led by asses".
This sort of thing makes me so proud to be British. In any war you can see unity, spirit and bravery. All the odds were against the British in this war such as unfamiliar terrain, napoleonic methods and lack of supplies, however no matter what we won. We always persevere. All you have to do is look back through British history and see at times of national crisis everyone groups together and fights for our country. This is why I am so proud to wave a Union Jack.
@shawdawg89 WTF has the U.S. got to do with this? Most Americans wouldn't be able to find the Crimea on a map never mind knowing anything about the war that was fought there.
If imperator Nicolas I had not died and Russian Empire had patience to war like in WW II then it was better to make cardigans and not to bother Russia
@grobo11 If imperator Nicolas I had not died and Russian Empire had patience to war like in WW II then it was better to make cardigans and not to bother Russia
Did anyone else find that recording of Lord Tennyson somewhat haunting? To think; a voice over a hundred years old belonging to a man long dead is still able to speak to us.
Creepy. It's a shame that it's so distorted and muffled.
Watching French chauvinist and British jingoes fighting and bickering over Napoleonic wars, WWI, WWII etc. is simply hilarious!!! It is like watching a whacky penis size contest. "Baguette!", "Roast beef!" You guys, get a life and enjoy history!
Yeah, it does sound pretty nasty, I'd never heard the exact details of the battle before :( My 5x great-uncle was in this battle, and was one of the 195 who survived. He was thrown from his horse when it's leg was blown off, and was trampled by riderless horses, but managed to fight his way through heavy shelling to save a fellow soldier who was pinned down by a dead horse, before escaping to safety. Will always be proud of you, James Ikin Nunnerley ^___^
@IsThisLife09 Absolutely astounding what a person can learn from youTubes comments. Cheers from Virginia and.......Best Wishes & condolences to Mr. James Ikin Nunnerley.
brits didnt care about the turks they fought the russian bear to protect british interests that would be threatened by russian fleet with accessto the med sea and to call the french cowardly is ignorant
I thought this was all about stopping Russia getting a naval base that didn't freeze up in winter and allowing them access to the Mediterranean. This could threaten India for the British and obviously Turkey wouldn't like Russian warships sailing right past Istanbul. I don't know what it had to do with the French.
@cumbas Ok, to end your little rant, a simple one messaged answer as to this.
If France is so much more better than us, why couldn't you hold the Germans back on your own during WW1 and WW2? Also, why did you bend over for the shaft of Germany during WW2 until, us, the US came in to save France?
@ImperialGuard9001 Not excatly. lol Just sick of seeing a lot of ignorant people who claim that Britain and history in general are lies. - cumbas - has many pages where he leaves many comments giving his French nationl view of history.
It's a shame we have so many ignorant out there today who seem to know nothing, yet cause arguments over subjects they know nothing of.
Infact, if it wasn't for Islams iron grip over most of Europe (now here in UK too) I would love a joined one European nation.
I think to create soon an video on the Crimee’s War between the Allied France-the UK vs Russia because like usually I see here more idiotic vanity by unscholar & suckers fanatics English who dont know the truth but only their eternal perfidious & untrue propaganda & liers to give them the only glory...
In 1st Ok no problems for this charge and the nice sacrifice of the English Light Cavalry
BUT it was pratically the only great action of the Brit Army during this war...
The Crimee’s War is an important war in the History
It mark the 1st Modern War by the use for the first time of modern weapons and much more fatal than in the past : Automatic guns, machins-guns, explosive balls drawn by the “canons”, etc..
In this time again like in the time of the Napoleonic age, the only true force of the UK especially in front of the others big European powers was its Navy
But Its Army was not enough strong to support alone a war vs another European great power, vs Russia so in this Crimee’s War
& of course on the ground it was the French Army who supported pratically all the efforts for the Allied side : Numbers of soldiers, numbers of guns, number of battles vs the Russians
& it was in true the French Armies who saved more times the Brit Armies in bad situation vs the Russian Armies
The majority of the great battles during this war were supported & won by France !!
& so you see here a perfect example again & again of the untrue English propaganda always very strong to take one act even little to increase it to do believe that they were the only glory in one war, by books or even movies like this
France thanks to this victory won by her alone pratically on the ground, after its defeat in 1815 vs all the European kings united vs it, take again its important & true place in the European continental geopolitic : The 1st
Louis Bonaparte then president of the French Republic, benefitted from this new victory of the French Armies after that of the 1st Empire, to create the second French Empire and to become Napoleon III after that of his famous uncle Napoleon 1st in 1804...
@cumbas Hate to break it to you cumbas but the Chinese were using exploding shot and shell around 2000 years before the Crimean war ever took place...
A complete F*** up made famous by a poem, the real battel was won by the 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards and other supporting british regiments at the battel of Inkerman 5 Nov 1854 out numbered 5 to one they defeted the Russian army and then were able to lay siege to servastapol the real heros of the crimean war were the ordinary infantry soldier.
The role the light brigade played in the battle isn't what makes this poem or this story so dramatic and brave, it is that the men of the light brigade bravely and unquestioningly following their commanders
@boysie9164 But like always the pretty men on horses with glamorous uniforms take the glory. Even after death. However, you can admire the sheer bravery of all men of the armies. You cannot say none were cowards.
@grobo11 very true, and goes to support the old saying. Ours is not to reason Why? Ours is but to do or die!, The troops did not question any orders, they just followed them regardless of the consequences, i served for 15 years in the Grenadier Guards, and the dicipline of the Houshold division is still eliteish, still following traditions from when they were formed in 1656, but i suppose that is what tradition is all about?
@boysie9164 Exactly yes. You yourself who served in the Grenadier guards come from an almost 300year old regiments who were always seen as advanced or special soldiers who cleared the way in battle with the lobbing of grenades to disrupt and disperse enemy lines.
grobo11 you know your history, the 350 year aniversary was celabrated in 2006 at buckingham palace i was their, the regiment has just been given new coulors to include their latest battle honor Afganistan, having just returned from their third tour of Afganistan this May. i am proud to have served my country, and proud of any soilder who writes his country a blank check upto and including his life, they are paid a pittence for the job they do, Footballers and Soilders wages should be swapeed.
@boysie9164 Respect for you serving in the army, and it's a nice thought, swapping footballers wages with soldiers however, it is impractical. I agree aoldiers should get more than £16 000 a year, maybe £20 000-£25 000. But I'd say you get an alright deal such as a secure pension, learning a new trade, free dental care etc. Mind you, I don't think it's worth your life.
Very interesting documentary. I believe there was a similar charge of light cavalry against cannons many years before Balaclava. When Napoleon invaded Spain, he sent Polish Lighthorse to take Somosierra Pass defended by cannons and muskets covering the passage from every possible angle. Consider the narrow, winding road up the hill, those crazy guys could ride only four in a row. They took all the cannon positions in 8 minutes!
@TehCthulhu I they're quotes from letters/diaries read by actors. They're not lame, they're not particularly poetic but they're first-hand accounts of the charge of the Light Brigade!
as the Great saying Goes.. ''Remember the Nobal 600... Charging into the Vally of death!.. Cannon to the right of them, cannon to the left of them, Cannon to the front of them!.. Volly'd and thunderd!!''
the 93 highlanders formed double ranks and repulsed the russian cavalry...william russell in reporting to the london times said how they were a thin red line...it stuck
over 400 reached the guns and scattered the russian hussars to the rear...the heavy brigade was halted by lucan leaving the light brigade to fight it sway back...mary secoule was ignored afterward and nighengale got all the credit
See all of our great alliances with France. It is a shame that seeing as everyone is a chav we call them cowards. There could be peace now if we were allied, people even hate the EU!.ONE WAR THATS IT THEY SURRENDERED IN ONE WAR!
France didn't surrender in WWII any more than Norway, Poland, Czechoslovakia, or any of the rest of Europe did. Yet somehow they have this stigma as cowards. It's not like they had much of a choice against Germany's power back then.
They were all occupied though. But what gave the French the name of coward by some was Germany marching into paris without any resistence given at all.
But there was the Free French and French resisistence and they gave French back some of their national pride, but wrong war though.
We did it to protect the Med as it was the enterance to the Suez Canal, an important route which linked the shipping line from India, and other Eastern Empire back to mainland Britain.
The British shouldn't be there in the first place! They allied with their natural enemy, the cowardly French, against a former ally in order to protect the interests of the culturally and socially inferior Turks.
The Turks paid the British back by taking the side of the enemy in both World Wars.
Yes that is true they covered the survivors. But the heavy brigade had earlier carried out a far more successful charge cutting their way through several times their number od Russian cavalry and were in no state to go again. Most writers consider it strange that the hevies never get credit for their success.
Thank you! I'm only just beginning to grasp the mechanics of the battle. Till now I have been concentrating on the politics of the period that led to the conflict for my school exams.
To be more accurate, Lord Lucan recalled the Heavy Brigade to prevent even more useless slaughter. It was a brave act and one for which he deserved credit. You're right about the French Chasseurs d'Afrique though. Without them attacking the Russians on the Fedoukine Heights the losses would have been far greater on the return journey.
Ther Romans used to practise the same at that time. Things were so very different back then. Even in the most humane of contemporary cultures, exposure of babies was employed at the time - in some parts of Greece, e.g. Sparta.
Roman toilets did not flush. I'm not into describing them but yes Rome did have great sewer systems(some still working in Briton today!). I personaly feel that a mixed constitution is better than democracy and I'm against the seperation of Church and State. Just look to 400BC for my reasoning on why democracy is a failure.
it is incredible to read such untrue and idiotic words by a true roastbeef vision when we know the true run of this war... (but not incredible in fact for a roastbeef ^^)
The French support and won pratically all the main battles & to the opposite of this video want to believe it is them who saved more time the brits in this war !!!
After that you undestand why and how a such retarded people mind is built in the UK when they see the History...
@cumbas - Perhaps you should try a better translation of the Chinese telephone directory to learn history. History does not allow for assumptions. You seem to be too anxious to label whoever has a different view to yours as English, green, or yellow. At any rate, I am an Austrian American and "poor retarded England" stood alone against the Nazis when half of France was happy to capitulate while the other half collaborated. There is nothing humiliating in being grateful.
@cumbas So say we're retarded? If that is the case, why was it up to Great Britain to save France in two World wars? This is just the simple start of a possible fututre debate, choose your next words wisely.
you lost in June 1940 like Us (we lost the battle in June 40 because more reasons, faults of our higt commandment, France dont prepared this war the years before to the opposite of the WW1, political reasons, etc... & not the courage & quality of our soldiers of course) & YOU moved back even more quickly than Us I remember that to you !!
Of course your propagadist "books of History" forgot that & speak about the only defeat of French in June 40 lol
Only your big natural fortress island saved you for a few moment because it is of course the entry of The USA and the Russia who saved our world (fortunatly)
To resume the 2 WW if France dont support the big effort and battles on the ground dice the beginning like in 1914 for example for the WW1 the same thing would have occurred because you did not win & you cannot win alone a big war vs a big power in Europe since your defeat in the 1 hundred war vs Us ^^
@cumbas Now, in WW2 the British army evacuated what was left of the French army (after the rest was beaten by the Germans) and got back home to be re-equipped to fight in later battles all around the world.
France was beaten in 1940, not Great Britain. And Frances viche goverment was planning on helping the Germans. Do you know around 80, 000 French fought in the German army??? Britain had been disamring for around 14 years before war broke out, so we wasn't in any better position than France.
@cumbas Also, the first BEF which fought during WW1 was the only allied army that held the first line against the Germans at the battle of Mons. The 80, 000 force that fought the Germans 180, 000 + force suffered only around 1000 dead or wounded while the Germans suffered around 6000 dead. Then, the French 5th army covering the British right flank broke & fled, in their own country! (Who were fighting a smaller German force and had more troops than the British force) You were being destroyed.
@cumbas America done barely anything in North Africa, they US only fought it's first battle in DEC 1942 (Nearly 1943!) We had already beaten most of Rommels forces (Which outnumbered us for most of the campaign in north Africa) before the US set foot in North Africa.
they only helped during the Northen invasion of Europe were they helped liberate countries under control & occupied by Germany, like FRANCE.
Russia would of overrun all of Europe an claimed it as it's own if it wasn't for the allies
@cumbas I'm a Roast beef? Ok, you really need to brush up on your English (The fastest growing language in the world) before you try insult me. your poor grammar, lies and hatred against England or the UK as a whole is disgusting and something you should be ashamed of.
WW1 - without our Naval blockades, our millions of troops AND! the tank, which Great Britain invented, which broke the stalemate of the war by overruning the heavily defended trenches, you would of been likely defeated.
@Sonnypjim09 Cumbas doesn't have an irrational hatred of the English. He's French so he hates everyone apart from maybe their old mates the Germans. Anyway he can keep his women with hairy armpits.
@dagmar1991 No, the British needed to keep the Russians from Turkey to preserve British naval supremacy in the Mediterranean and keep the Russians from challenging Britain's hold on India.
@dagmar1991 , Actually the brits were afraid of the Russians getting a port there and being able to control the Mediterranean, threatening the royal navy’s control
@HuasoPodrido It wasn't so much the port of Sevastopol itself that worried Britain. The British (and French) were worried that Russia would use Sevastapol to conquer Constantinople. And from Constantinople the Russians could send ships into the Mediterranean, destroy the Ottoman Empire completely, absorb huge sections and create a dangerous power vacuum in the middle-east. The British wanted nothing more than to keep the status quo
@dagmar1991 Actually the Turks paid the British back handsomely, in terms of trade advantages and the virtual secession of Egypt. In fact the relationship between the Ottomans and Britain was mutually beneficial (it not only served Britain as a cash cow but as a non threatening buffer against real potential enemies). In return the British ensured that the Ottoman Empire survived. It worked very well until the revolution in the Ottoman Empire led the Young Turks to come to power.
@dagmar1991 Do your research on as to why Britain and France fought against Russia; you'll understand a little better that Britain had every right to be there - every right in defending against the advancement of a Russian empire.
@RRAvon - However, they seemed to have been rather reluctant to exercise the same right in defending against Turkish expansionism earlier that century, or help to liberate parts of Europe and islands in the Aegean Sea that remained under Turkish occupation till the turn of the century. Turkey has been invading other countries as late as 1974. Britain was a guarantor power at the time of the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey - yet they did nothing to stop Turkish agression. Double standards?
@dagmar1991 Not double standards at all; by the point of the Turkish invasion there were authorities set up to deal with such threats. Treaties formed to protect against unlawful invasions. I.e. the UN.
@RRAvon - Does setting up the UN relieve a country from honouring a treaty? According to the London-Zurich Treaty during early 1959 Britain agreed to defend Cyprus in case of an invasion. Britain signed the treaty - inspite of the fact that an authority such as the UN was already in existence. The need for Britain to sign the treaty was not considered unnecessary on account of the UN's existence. Furthermore, Britain was in a unique position to stop the invasion from their Cyprus bases.
If you check into the actual history of this battle, had the High command committed the heavy brigade who were being held back in reserve then the day would have been won. The Light Bde actually took the russian batteries to their front ,but were devistated by the russian heavy cav that were sent in against them.The light cav were armed with lances for fast stick n move not heavy sabres for one to one combat.
Actually, the heavy brigade initially followed the light brigade, but was ordered back when it was apparent that those men proceding into the valley would die for no use. Yes, the light brigade reached the battery line, but at that time already has lost too many men to do any good.
I saw it when first released in the late 60's. It was obviously influenced by anti-Vietnam sentiment, but I didn't realize at the time how historically accurate it was
1935, right after he defeated the French when he was Captain Blood. After that he changed his name to Robin Hood and fought the Sheriff of Nottingham. Boy, was he a busy guy!
The colour clips are from 'The Charge of The Light Brigade', made in 1968 & directed by Tony Richardson. Its a brilliant movie which stars Trevor Howard, John Gielgud, Harry Andrews & David Hemmings. Its available on a region 1 DVD release, but the deleted region 2 BFI version boasts some extras if you can find it.
are you sure that was Alfred Tennyson reading at the end it sounded like darth vader when his drunk
rattyfatty246 2 months ago
I am very familiar with what has become one of the most dreadful military blunders, underpinned with gross arrogance and rivalry, in British history. That said, I felt this documentary had less impact than a school production. The voice-over is bland, the content stripped of the real meat and a great chance to portray this infamous charge - lost. A 5 out of 10 effort and a waste of viewing time.
ruepot 3 months ago
So much is told about the Light Brigade charge but hardly anything about the Heavies superb charge earlier in the day. This was one of the finest moments for British cavalry, again against superior numbers but the Russians were severely checked. The Lights may have made a Russian retreat a rout but for Cardigan not being at his post (!!!). Cardigan was brave but was never a good general but amatuerism was pervasive in the army at this time. Too often the British really were "lions led by asses".
FrancoHitlini 3 months ago
This sort of thing makes me so proud to be British. In any war you can see unity, spirit and bravery. All the odds were against the British in this war such as unfamiliar terrain, napoleonic methods and lack of supplies, however no matter what we won. We always persevere. All you have to do is look back through British history and see at times of national crisis everyone groups together and fights for our country. This is why I am so proud to wave a Union Jack.
SorryWTFAreYouSaying 9 months ago 3
@SorryWTFAreYouSaying usa!
shawdawg89 5 months ago
@shawdawg89 WTF has the U.S. got to do with this? Most Americans wouldn't be able to find the Crimea on a map never mind knowing anything about the war that was fought there.
lauwai4life 3 weeks ago
@SorryWTFAreYouSaying
You are right, the British mostly stood their stand. But why? You oversee that they had a protection of a higher might.
RomanNies 4 months ago
@SorryWTFAreYouSaying .good for you...you should be proud...
whokeithmoon 1 month ago
Astonishingly moving, Tennyson's reading over the film.
PhilipMaltman 10 months ago
I do not propose to recount my life in any detail what is what. No damn business of anyone what is what, I am Lord Cardigan that is what.
Them cherrybums you see them tight my cherrybums i keep em tight.
£10,000 a year out me own pocket i spend to clothe them. A master cutler sharps their swords and i keep them tight stitched cut to a shadow.
Good! If they can't fornicate they cant fight, and if they dont fight on i'll flog their backs raw for all their fine looks.
FellowTownsman 11 months ago 3
@FellowTownsman Cardigan, you're a stew-stick.
AllenbysEyes 5 months ago
@AllenbysEyes Cardigan is famous for vest
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Desperada57 4 months ago
@Zahakl Here I believe it's 'Don't fuck with the British' as they don't fucking back down son..
Jaxicul 11 months ago
If imperator Nicolas I had not died and Russian Empire had patience to war like in WW II then it was better to make cardigans and not to bother Russia
IgorKnyaz 1 year ago
lol dont fuck with russia
Zaharkl 1 year ago
@Zaharkl Why? Russia lost the battle of balaclava and the crimean war.
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@grobo11 If imperator Nicolas I had not died and Russian Empire had patience to war like in WW II then it was better to make cardigans and not to bother Russia
IgorKnyaz 1 year ago
@Zaharkl Except the British won the Crimean War.
SorryWTFAreYouSaying 1 year ago
john bull dog.
Rico8458 1 year ago
Did anyone else find that recording of Lord Tennyson somewhat haunting? To think; a voice over a hundred years old belonging to a man long dead is still able to speak to us.
Creepy. It's a shame that it's so distorted and muffled.
Minotaurosu123 1 year ago 2
what movie are the scenes from ?
TheHullamann 1 year ago
Watching French chauvinist and British jingoes fighting and bickering over Napoleonic wars, WWI, WWII etc. is simply hilarious!!! It is like watching a whacky penis size contest. "Baguette!", "Roast beef!" You guys, get a life and enjoy history!
Ciao ciao from Milano ("Spaghetti!")
dockavurzione 1 year ago
Yeah, it does sound pretty nasty, I'd never heard the exact details of the battle before :( My 5x great-uncle was in this battle, and was one of the 195 who survived. He was thrown from his horse when it's leg was blown off, and was trampled by riderless horses, but managed to fight his way through heavy shelling to save a fellow soldier who was pinned down by a dead horse, before escaping to safety. Will always be proud of you, James Ikin Nunnerley ^___^
RIP 1832-1905 x
IsThisLife09 1 year ago
@IsThisLife09 Absolutely astounding what a person can learn from youTubes comments. Cheers from Virginia and.......Best Wishes & condolences to Mr. James Ikin Nunnerley.
kolbpilot 1 year ago 2
@kolbpilot Thank you :)
IsThisLife09 1 year ago
sounds awful all that fighting but flashman came through unscathed, what!
stemvis 1 year ago
brits didnt care about the turks they fought the russian bear to protect british interests that would be threatened by russian fleet with accessto the med sea and to call the french cowardly is ignorant
pdogone1 1 year ago
I thought this was all about stopping Russia getting a naval base that didn't freeze up in winter and allowing them access to the Mediterranean. This could threaten India for the British and obviously Turkey wouldn't like Russian warships sailing right past Istanbul. I don't know what it had to do with the French.
mrdiscus66 1 year ago
& it is the same thing for this war here !!!
You speak about this (practilly) only act of courage & sacrifice (this act is true I said it, no problem) like if this sacrifice won this war lol
But in this Crimee's War it is the French Army who supported & won the main battles & our final victory !!
it is a big shame for all lovers of the true History to see a such retarded, untrue and unshamed vision by little dicks roastbeefs like you !!
But we are accustomed to that with roastbeefs lol
cumbas 1 year ago
@cumbas Ok, to end your little rant, a simple one messaged answer as to this.
If France is so much more better than us, why couldn't you hold the Germans back on your own during WW1 and WW2? Also, why did you bend over for the shaft of Germany during WW2 until, us, the US came in to save France?
I rest my case.
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@Sonnypjim09 Are you suggestin that French are cowards and suck at war?XD
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@ImperialGuard9001 Not excatly. lol Just sick of seeing a lot of ignorant people who claim that Britain and history in general are lies. - cumbas - has many pages where he leaves many comments giving his French nationl view of history.
It's a shame we have so many ignorant out there today who seem to know nothing, yet cause arguments over subjects they know nothing of.
Infact, if it wasn't for Islams iron grip over most of Europe (now here in UK too) I would love a joined one European nation.
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
1a)
I think to create soon an video on the Crimee’s War between the Allied France-the UK vs Russia because like usually I see here more idiotic vanity by unscholar & suckers fanatics English who dont know the truth but only their eternal perfidious & untrue propaganda & liers to give them the only glory...
In 1st Ok no problems for this charge and the nice sacrifice of the English Light Cavalry
It is a true fact in this war
cumbas 1 year ago
2a)
BUT it was pratically the only great action of the Brit Army during this war...
The Crimee’s War is an important war in the History
It mark the 1st Modern War by the use for the first time of modern weapons and much more fatal than in the past : Automatic guns, machins-guns, explosive balls drawn by the “canons”, etc..
In this time again like in the time of the Napoleonic age, the only true force of the UK especially in front of the others big European powers was its Navy
cumbas 1 year ago
3a)
But Its Army was not enough strong to support alone a war vs another European great power, vs Russia so in this Crimee’s War
& of course on the ground it was the French Army who supported pratically all the efforts for the Allied side : Numbers of soldiers, numbers of guns, number of battles vs the Russians
& it was in true the French Armies who saved more times the Brit Armies in bad situation vs the Russian Armies
cumbas 1 year ago
4a)
The majority of the great battles during this war were supported & won by France !!
& so you see here a perfect example again & again of the untrue English propaganda always very strong to take one act even little to increase it to do believe that they were the only glory in one war, by books or even movies like this
BUT the true winner of the Crimée’s War is France
cumbas 1 year ago
5a-end)
France thanks to this victory won by her alone pratically on the ground, after its defeat in 1815 vs all the European kings united vs it, take again its important & true place in the European continental geopolitic : The 1st
Louis Bonaparte then president of the French Republic, benefitted from this new victory of the French Armies after that of the 1st Empire, to create the second French Empire and to become Napoleon III after that of his famous uncle Napoleon 1st in 1804...
cumbas 1 year ago
@cumbas Hate to break it to you cumbas but the Chinese were using exploding shot and shell around 2000 years before the Crimean war ever took place...
FearDivinity 1 year ago
That last bit with the wax recording was oh so erie.
OniLunchbox 1 year ago
both in politics and war, there are no permanent friends but only permanent goals....
welgaalustrike 1 year ago
A complete F*** up made famous by a poem, the real battel was won by the 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards and other supporting british regiments at the battel of Inkerman 5 Nov 1854 out numbered 5 to one they defeted the Russian army and then were able to lay siege to servastapol the real heros of the crimean war were the ordinary infantry soldier.
boysie9164 1 year ago
The role the light brigade played in the battle isn't what makes this poem or this story so dramatic and brave, it is that the men of the light brigade bravely and unquestioningly following their commanders
portugalreis 1 year ago 2
@boysie9164 But like always the pretty men on horses with glamorous uniforms take the glory. Even after death. However, you can admire the sheer bravery of all men of the armies. You cannot say none were cowards.
grobo11 1 year ago
@grobo11 very true, and goes to support the old saying. Ours is not to reason Why? Ours is but to do or die!, The troops did not question any orders, they just followed them regardless of the consequences, i served for 15 years in the Grenadier Guards, and the dicipline of the Houshold division is still eliteish, still following traditions from when they were formed in 1656, but i suppose that is what tradition is all about?
boysie9164 1 year ago
@boysie9164 Exactly yes. You yourself who served in the Grenadier guards come from an almost 300year old regiments who were always seen as advanced or special soldiers who cleared the way in battle with the lobbing of grenades to disrupt and disperse enemy lines.
grobo11 1 year ago
grobo11 you know your history, the 350 year aniversary was celabrated in 2006 at buckingham palace i was their, the regiment has just been given new coulors to include their latest battle honor Afganistan, having just returned from their third tour of Afganistan this May. i am proud to have served my country, and proud of any soilder who writes his country a blank check upto and including his life, they are paid a pittence for the job they do, Footballers and Soilders wages should be swapeed.
boysie9164 1 year ago
@boysie9164 Respect for you serving in the army, and it's a nice thought, swapping footballers wages with soldiers however, it is impractical. I agree aoldiers should get more than £16 000 a year, maybe £20 000-£25 000. But I'd say you get an alright deal such as a secure pension, learning a new trade, free dental care etc. Mind you, I don't think it's worth your life.
grobo11 1 year ago
lol is this a joke? hahaah alfred is a joker. i studied this when i was 15 but never heard him dictate or should i say perform it lol
topper joker he gets well into dont he? bless him
th3rn 2 years ago 2
Very interesting documentary. I believe there was a similar charge of light cavalry against cannons many years before Balaclava. When Napoleon invaded Spain, he sent Polish Lighthorse to take Somosierra Pass defended by cannons and muskets covering the passage from every possible angle. Consider the narrow, winding road up the hill, those crazy guys could ride only four in a row. They took all the cannon positions in 8 minutes!
dod1808 2 years ago
Completely different circumstances.
Talbot6832 1 year ago
im sorry, but the little snippets of reactions from we are assuming is people of the time are REALLY REALLY REALLY lame
TehCthulhu 2 years ago
@TehCthulhu I they're quotes from letters/diaries read by actors. They're not lame, they're not particularly poetic but they're first-hand accounts of the charge of the Light Brigade!
Robin89uk 1 year ago
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Fuck you all USA USA USa
lordhashi 2 years ago
as the Great saying Goes.. ''Remember the Nobal 600... Charging into the Vally of death!.. Cannon to the right of them, cannon to the left of them, Cannon to the front of them!.. Volly'd and thunderd!!''
Aaron1200195 2 years ago
Florence Nightengale sounded kind of hot.
Rodelu10915 2 years ago
yuck
shoaibhussain 2 years ago
i dont understand why people hate the russians
specialedd13 2 years ago
I think the Russians are a great people with a fascinating history.
Rodelu10915 2 years ago 4
Amazing! Thanks for posting.
cegmacmillan 2 years ago
Its said that when the survivors returned, and the officers went out to meet them, some of the men yelled "Go again sir?" a true example of spirit
swirlykid229 2 years ago 9
can never forget the french defence of bir hakeim!
pdogone1 2 years ago
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Perfect Armyidiots!
Will Brittain raise once more time?
Kiss US ass,maybe we help you again,maybe....
lifter6911 2 years ago
Speak English , Moron.
Pitcairn2 2 years ago
the 93 highlanders formed double ranks and repulsed the russian cavalry...william russell in reporting to the london times said how they were a thin red line...it stuck
over 400 reached the guns and scattered the russian hussars to the rear...the heavy brigade was halted by lucan leaving the light brigade to fight it sway back...mary secoule was ignored afterward and nighengale got all the credit
pdogone1 2 years ago
Sorry Mary Seacole was not ignored she was honoured in her lifetime but forgotten after her death. Check it on wikipedia.
freebeerfordworkers 2 years ago
Very good narrative! I was also blown away by hearing Tennyson recite his poem. Well done.
rickcheyne 2 years ago
thanks for the vid. should be of some benfit for a level history exam tomorrow...
chc033044 2 years ago
What a waste of good soldiers.
irockthemike 2 years ago 3
Makes you proud to be British
freddy77777 2 years ago 2
Thank's for the information. History can develop in many odd tracks and directions.
petereuropa 2 years ago
This is perhaps the most stupid question: Lord Raglan & Lord Cardigan are two names in knitted garments. Is it descended from these two guys?
petereuropa 2 years ago
It certainly did, became very popular in London after the Crimea.
HenrySimmerson 2 years ago
God, who did the readings on this? Sounds like a couple of catatonics reading from a telephone directory.
ryko26 3 years ago
You must be listening to a different recording from me.
mikelheron20 3 years ago
Great Job!
ImparatorEugenius 3 years ago
See all of our great alliances with France. It is a shame that seeing as everyone is a chav we call them cowards. There could be peace now if we were allied, people even hate the EU!.ONE WAR THATS IT THEY SURRENDERED IN ONE WAR!
leonleonceur 3 years ago
Good point
Guyisaritelegend 3 years ago
France didn't surrender in WWII any more than Norway, Poland, Czechoslovakia, or any of the rest of Europe did. Yet somehow they have this stigma as cowards. It's not like they had much of a choice against Germany's power back then.
babbchuck 2 years ago
They were all occupied though. But what gave the French the name of coward by some was Germany marching into paris without any resistence given at all.
But there was the Free French and French resisistence and they gave French back some of their national pride, but wrong war though.
MonteguTigg 2 years ago
very true
the only frence who surrendered were the vichy french goverment.
the free french under de gualle fought on glad someones realized that =)
laodongICY 2 years ago 2
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charge of the light brigade was a thousand times more successful than fable has it
kingbodup 3 years ago
Honor the braves of Light Brigade!
hidaspes 3 years ago
It wasn't just to protect the Truks.
We did it to protect the Med as it was the enterance to the Suez Canal, an important route which linked the shipping line from India, and other Eastern Empire back to mainland Britain.
But of course we did it for the Trusk too!
After all, Britain is the World's police force
Fear0 3 years ago
Thanks, but didn't the Crimean conflict take place before 1869? What was the reason behind being concerned about Suez then?
dagmar1991 3 years ago 11
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read a history book for Gods sake, don't try and learn your history from randoms on youtube! the world has gone nuts!
langardan 3 years ago
Someone could suggest the same to you, albeit for a better reason. It is not a 17-year-old's responsibility if the world has gone nuts.
tzanabetys 3 years ago 10
The British shouldn't be there in the first place! They allied with their natural enemy, the cowardly French, against a former ally in order to protect the interests of the culturally and socially inferior Turks.
The Turks paid the British back by taking the side of the enemy in both World Wars.
dagmar1991 3 years ago 23
The French saved the Light Brigade's ass in this battle though when British Heavy Brigade refused to provide assisstance.
GoldenBoyOfWushu 3 years ago
Yes that is true they covered the survivors. But the heavy brigade had earlier carried out a far more successful charge cutting their way through several times their number od Russian cavalry and were in no state to go again. Most writers consider it strange that the hevies never get credit for their success.
freebeerfordworkers 3 years ago 2
Thank you! I'm only just beginning to grasp the mechanics of the battle. Till now I have been concentrating on the politics of the period that led to the conflict for my school exams.
dagmar1991 3 years ago 3
To be more accurate, Lord Lucan recalled the Heavy Brigade to prevent even more useless slaughter. It was a brave act and one for which he deserved credit. You're right about the French Chasseurs d'Afrique though. Without them attacking the Russians on the Fedoukine Heights the losses would have been far greater on the return journey.
mikelheron20 3 years ago
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hwo can you say that turkish people are culturally inferior.
The british had horrible toilets, the romans had had flushing toilest hundreds of years before the brits.
Plus british enjoy such horrible sports such as the hunt still today.
metru2222 3 years ago
Yes but the British had a concept for democracy. What's the use of a flash toilet if your life is subject to the whims of a dictator?
As regards bloody sports, they were enjoyed only by a small part of the population.
lykauges 3 years ago 19
Yeah ! And the Britons didn`t put unwanted babies out to die of exposure! We were actually doing quite well before the Romans came to "Visit" !
auto4union 2 years ago 2
You speak of Britons here - not of British.
Ther Romans used to practise the same at that time. Things were so very different back then. Even in the most humane of contemporary cultures, exposure of babies was employed at the time - in some parts of Greece, e.g. Sparta.
The British did quite well eventually!
lykauges 2 years ago
While the Romans used to take the whole family to watch peaceful sports at the Coliseum on a happy family outing.
klearchosklearchou 3 years ago 13
Roman toilets did not flush. I'm not into describing them but yes Rome did have great sewer systems(some still working in Briton today!). I personaly feel that a mixed constitution is better than democracy and I'm against the seperation of Church and State. Just look to 400BC for my reasoning on why democracy is a failure.
ImparatorEugenius 3 years ago
@dagmar1991
it is incredible to read such untrue and idiotic words by a true roastbeef vision when we know the true run of this war... (but not incredible in fact for a roastbeef ^^)
The French support and won pratically all the main battles & to the opposite of this video want to believe it is them who saved more time the brits in this war !!!
After that you undestand why and how a such retarded people mind is built in the UK when they see the History...
Poor poor retarded England...
cumbas 1 year ago
@cumbas - Perhaps you should try a better translation of the Chinese telephone directory to learn history. History does not allow for assumptions. You seem to be too anxious to label whoever has a different view to yours as English, green, or yellow. At any rate, I am an Austrian American and "poor retarded England" stood alone against the Nazis when half of France was happy to capitulate while the other half collaborated. There is nothing humiliating in being grateful.
dagmar1991 1 year ago 5
@cumbas - You call me an idiot together with other silly names and then post about 500 words in order to make me see things the way as you.
Also, there is an abundance of names used to make fun of the French which are below one's dignity to employ - inspite of the anonymity of YouTube.
I stand by my original remarks of one year ago!
dagmar1991 1 year ago 5
@dagmar1991 fuck the french...those fuckin frog eaters!
whokeithmoon 1 month ago
@cumbas So say we're retarded? If that is the case, why was it up to Great Britain to save France in two World wars? This is just the simple start of a possible fututre debate, choose your next words wisely.
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@Sonnypjim09
1a)
What ??!!!!
ahahah
YOU are a fucker retarded roastbeef
open a true book of history & try to lose your old roastbeef-mind with IQ of fly...
You saved France in the WW1 ??
ahahah
learn again the true stats & history of this WW
cumbas 1 year ago
2b)
The WW2 ??
you lost in June 1940 like Us (we lost the battle in June 40 because more reasons, faults of our higt commandment, France dont prepared this war the years before to the opposite of the WW1, political reasons, etc... & not the courage & quality of our soldiers of course) & YOU moved back even more quickly than Us I remember that to you !!
Of course your propagadist "books of History" forgot that & speak about the only defeat of French in June 40 lol
cumbas 1 year ago
3b-end)
Only your big natural fortress island saved you for a few moment because it is of course the entry of The USA and the Russia who saved our world (fortunatly)
To resume the 2 WW if France dont support the big effort and battles on the ground dice the beginning like in 1914 for example for the WW1 the same thing would have occurred because you did not win & you cannot win alone a big war vs a big power in Europe since your defeat in the 1 hundred war vs Us ^^
cumbas 1 year ago
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cumbas 1 year ago
@cumbas Now, in WW2 the British army evacuated what was left of the French army (after the rest was beaten by the Germans) and got back home to be re-equipped to fight in later battles all around the world.
France was beaten in 1940, not Great Britain. And Frances viche goverment was planning on helping the Germans. Do you know around 80, 000 French fought in the German army??? Britain had been disamring for around 14 years before war broke out, so we wasn't in any better position than France.
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@cumbas Also, the first BEF which fought during WW1 was the only allied army that held the first line against the Germans at the battle of Mons. The 80, 000 force that fought the Germans 180, 000 + force suffered only around 1000 dead or wounded while the Germans suffered around 6000 dead. Then, the French 5th army covering the British right flank broke & fled, in their own country! (Who were fighting a smaller German force and had more troops than the British force) You were being destroyed.
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@cumbas America done barely anything in North Africa, they US only fought it's first battle in DEC 1942 (Nearly 1943!) We had already beaten most of Rommels forces (Which outnumbered us for most of the campaign in north Africa) before the US set foot in North Africa.
they only helped during the Northen invasion of Europe were they helped liberate countries under control & occupied by Germany, like FRANCE.
Russia would of overrun all of Europe an claimed it as it's own if it wasn't for the allies
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@cumbas I'm a Roast beef? Ok, you really need to brush up on your English (The fastest growing language in the world) before you try insult me. your poor grammar, lies and hatred against England or the UK as a whole is disgusting and something you should be ashamed of.
WW1 - without our Naval blockades, our millions of troops AND! the tank, which Great Britain invented, which broke the stalemate of the war by overruning the heavily defended trenches, you would of been likely defeated.
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@Sonnypjim09 Cumbas doesn't have an irrational hatred of the English. He's French so he hates everyone apart from maybe their old mates the Germans. Anyway he can keep his women with hairy armpits.
mrdiscus66 1 year ago
@mrdiscus66 So true. lol He really has a problem with his history doesn't he. haha
Sonnypjim09 1 year ago
@dagmar1991 No, the British needed to keep the Russians from Turkey to preserve British naval supremacy in the Mediterranean and keep the Russians from challenging Britain's hold on India.
ninthwave 1 year ago
@dagmar1991 Turkey didnt particaped at WW2
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@dagmar1991 , Actually the brits were afraid of the Russians getting a port there and being able to control the Mediterranean, threatening the royal navy’s control
HuasoPodrido 1 year ago
@HuasoPodrido It wasn't so much the port of Sevastopol itself that worried Britain. The British (and French) were worried that Russia would use Sevastapol to conquer Constantinople. And from Constantinople the Russians could send ships into the Mediterranean, destroy the Ottoman Empire completely, absorb huge sections and create a dangerous power vacuum in the middle-east. The British wanted nothing more than to keep the status quo
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@dagmar1991 Actually the Turks paid the British back handsomely, in terms of trade advantages and the virtual secession of Egypt. In fact the relationship between the Ottomans and Britain was mutually beneficial (it not only served Britain as a cash cow but as a non threatening buffer against real potential enemies). In return the British ensured that the Ottoman Empire survived. It worked very well until the revolution in the Ottoman Empire led the Young Turks to come to power.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@dagmar1991 Who, by "biting the hand that fed them" achieved the one thing Russia couldn't, the destruction of the Ottoman Empire.
thebigJM92 1 year ago
@dagmar1991 Do your research on as to why Britain and France fought against Russia; you'll understand a little better that Britain had every right to be there - every right in defending against the advancement of a Russian empire.
RRAvon 1 year ago
@RRAvon - However, they seemed to have been rather reluctant to exercise the same right in defending against Turkish expansionism earlier that century, or help to liberate parts of Europe and islands in the Aegean Sea that remained under Turkish occupation till the turn of the century. Turkey has been invading other countries as late as 1974. Britain was a guarantor power at the time of the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey - yet they did nothing to stop Turkish agression. Double standards?
dagmar1991 1 year ago
@dagmar1991 Not double standards at all; by the point of the Turkish invasion there were authorities set up to deal with such threats. Treaties formed to protect against unlawful invasions. I.e. the UN.
RRAvon 1 year ago
@RRAvon - Does setting up the UN relieve a country from honouring a treaty? According to the London-Zurich Treaty during early 1959 Britain agreed to defend Cyprus in case of an invasion. Britain signed the treaty - inspite of the fact that an authority such as the UN was already in existence. The need for Britain to sign the treaty was not considered unnecessary on account of the UN's existence. Furthermore, Britain was in a unique position to stop the invasion from their Cyprus bases.
dagmar1991 1 year ago
The Movie was great
369dc 3 years ago
Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd & thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.
LiviuFloreaRo 3 years ago
Everyone should read Mr.Brighton's book,fantastic and enlightening.
vorkutaman 3 years ago
If you check into the actual history of this battle, had the High command committed the heavy brigade who were being held back in reserve then the day would have been won. The Light Bde actually took the russian batteries to their front ,but were devistated by the russian heavy cav that were sent in against them.The light cav were armed with lances for fast stick n move not heavy sabres for one to one combat.
bedpansniper 3 years ago
Actually, the heavy brigade initially followed the light brigade, but was ordered back when it was apparent that those men proceding into the valley would die for no use. Yes, the light brigade reached the battery line, but at that time already has lost too many men to do any good.
binfot 3 years ago 2
this movie has alot of meaning obviously it was an anti-war movie at the time. anyone there at the time?
fuah1 3 years ago
I saw it when first released in the late 60's. It was obviously influenced by anti-Vietnam sentiment, but I didn't realize at the time how historically accurate it was
marsmoke 3 years ago
Errol Flynn did it better!!
hemming57 3 years ago
what year?
fuah1 3 years ago
1935, right after he defeated the French when he was Captain Blood. After that he changed his name to Robin Hood and fought the Sheriff of Nottingham. Boy, was he a busy guy!
hemming57 3 years ago
thanks. i have to check it out. This is a great movie that every schoolkid should see.
fuah1 3 years ago
i mean it's makes you think as contrasted with some other crap they call movies these days.
fuah1 3 years ago
Don't forget he was also Custer, and won the Battle of Gettysburg all by himself!
marsmoke 3 years ago
"Butcher Jack" Vahey's account is quite remarkable. Valuable book. Thanks Mr Brighton.
ike1950 4 years ago
what's that movie?
percydanvers2 4 years ago
The colour clips are from 'The Charge of The Light Brigade', made in 1968 & directed by Tony Richardson. Its a brilliant movie which stars Trevor Howard, John Gielgud, Harry Andrews & David Hemmings. Its available on a region 1 DVD release, but the deleted region 2 BFI version boasts some extras if you can find it.
helltopo 4 years ago
Thanks for sharing Terry. Got the book for christmas, reading it now.
WillBeringer 4 years ago 3
'Hell Riders' is a great book - not just a good historical account, but really evocative of what the charge must have been like. 5*
delbhoye 4 years ago 2
Best I've seen on the charge
MunsterMan1721 4 years ago
Well done!
xltrt 4 years ago