All should read "Racing with the Enemy" to get the closest thing to an accurate historical record of the chronology of events and the negotiations for peace involving the US, USSR and Japan. Simplistic incantations about how many lives would be saved by dropping the bomb played almost no role in Truman's decision to do it. The book is based upon declassified Russian, Japanese and US documents, and the author is fluent in all 3 languages. Its the only account of its kind.
The genie was out of the bottle...too late for regrets. So sad to see science used to create evil. Science has the potential to do so much good. That look on Oppenheimer's face teels us everything we need to know about the misuse of science.
There was a plan to invade mainland Japan during WWII called "operation X" At that time they expected that 1.5 million people would die if there were a mainland invasion. That includes soldiers. Japanese and American. I believe "only" 140,000 civilians died from the two bombs. And the Japanese government was not impressed with the 2 bombs. They said that they were no different from the fire bombs sent on Japanese cities.
Alright everyone, Oppenheimer was a tormented soul. Looking back over 65 years what was the U.S. to do, go for a land invasion of Japan where far more people would have died on all sides. It is easy now to condemn Hiroshima from the comfort of our homes years later but perhaps some of these self satisfied individuals wouldn't be here today if papa had been killed in the invasion--dwell on that for a while!!!
Oppenheimer KNEW from day one...what his work was to culminate in. but knowing full well that history would always know him and the rest of his gang of heartless scientists as the DESTROYERS of worlds, he and others came out and made such quasi religio-philosophical statements, so humanity might accept them as somewhat "blameless." They were driven by selfish, nationalistic, and egotistical motives seeking one Nobel Prize after another.
@Manjushri1970 I don't think that was the case for most, they are human after all. They were just going up the career path, bettering their skills just like the financial people of wall street today (who have screwed up the economy), and the one giving them all this money to research, in the end commited what they just turned a blind eye on. There's no doubt they all felt guilt, they obviously stayed a little ignorant in bliss until then.
The final piece of our first Nuclear weapons, beryllium for the initiator, was supplied by Father Michael DeLisle Lyons, S.J. (Jesuits) of Detroit. Yep . . . a priest. For this amazing story Google "WWJ, A Jesuit and the Bomb." Fr. Lyons was my great-uncle.Fr. Macelwane of St. Louis University was also involved in the Manhattan Project. The copy of the Baghvad Gita Dr. Oppenheimer read from in the bunker was given to him by Fr. Lyons, who got it from Mahatma Gandhi. Ironic?
that's fascinating. yeah the jesuits are involved in a lot of stuff. you should search for leo zagami project camelot on youtube. it's a 3 hour interview with leo zagami, and he talks quite a bit about this vatican stuff and what they are involved in.
I believe this may be from JOHN ADAM'S Opera DOCTOR ATOMIC. The story of oppenheimer and the atomic bomb. Pretty sure but cant be positive since LIFE was short lived.
This is art, not history. and yes, we did need to hear it and Oppenheimer's desperate self doubt that came with his team's development.
I can't imagine what this man went through, knowing that he had unleashed the power of ultimate destruction into the hands of people he neither knew or trusted.
He thought he was defeating a mortal enemy, but even as he did so, he had his doubts.
@JuneJune1950 Gënjeshtar! Unë e quaj dëngla. Projekti Manhattan u emërua pas një SHKAKTUAR njeri i bërë të shekullit të 19 tërmet Manhattan nga Nikola Tesla ne Trini, Nju Jork, ku prindërit tuaj të jetuar J. Robert Oppenheimer ...
@JuneJune1950nnnnn pooor man.... just look at him... he really feels the pain of the dead, listen to him, look at him, shit, "THE DISTROYER OF WORLDS'' hombre gris.
Beautiful music. Sounds a lot like "Louange a l'Eternite de Jesus" from Messiaen's Quatuor pour la fin du temps. Pretty apropos for the subject matter, but I would guess that the juxtaposition in this case would have been frowned upon by Messiaen, who didn't like to think about such dark things
All should read "Racing with the Enemy" to get the closest thing to an accurate historical record of the chronology of events and the negotiations for peace involving the US, USSR and Japan. Simplistic incantations about how many lives would be saved by dropping the bomb played almost no role in Truman's decision to do it. The book is based upon declassified Russian, Japanese and US documents, and the author is fluent in all 3 languages. Its the only account of its kind.
MrSjc54 6 months ago
The genie was out of the bottle...too late for regrets. So sad to see science used to create evil. Science has the potential to do so much good. That look on Oppenheimer's face teels us everything we need to know about the misuse of science.
gyoza007 9 months ago
There was a plan to invade mainland Japan during WWII called "operation X" At that time they expected that 1.5 million people would die if there were a mainland invasion. That includes soldiers. Japanese and American. I believe "only" 140,000 civilians died from the two bombs. And the Japanese government was not impressed with the 2 bombs. They said that they were no different from the fire bombs sent on Japanese cities.
schwarzie1229 10 months ago
Alright everyone, Oppenheimer was a tormented soul. Looking back over 65 years what was the U.S. to do, go for a land invasion of Japan where far more people would have died on all sides. It is easy now to condemn Hiroshima from the comfort of our homes years later but perhaps some of these self satisfied individuals wouldn't be here today if papa had been killed in the invasion--dwell on that for a while!!!
chuckbuckbobuck 10 months ago
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hear........today japan must fight against the atomic monster
DerIngo62 10 months ago
pooor man.... just look at him... he really feels the pain of the dead, listen to him, look at him, shit, "THE DISTROYER OF WORLDS'' hombre gris.
adrianregules 10 months ago
Oppenheimer KNEW from day one...what his work was to culminate in. but knowing full well that history would always know him and the rest of his gang of heartless scientists as the DESTROYERS of worlds, he and others came out and made such quasi religio-philosophical statements, so humanity might accept them as somewhat "blameless." They were driven by selfish, nationalistic, and egotistical motives seeking one Nobel Prize after another.
Manjushri1970 1 year ago
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@Manjushri1970 All of them? You have no faith in your fellow human beings. >_>
LicoriceLain 1 year ago
@Manjushri1970 I don't think that was the case for most, they are human after all. They were just going up the career path, bettering their skills just like the financial people of wall street today (who have screwed up the economy), and the one giving them all this money to research, in the end commited what they just turned a blind eye on. There's no doubt they all felt guilt, they obviously stayed a little ignorant in bliss until then.
LeethLee1 9 months ago
Is it me, or those this remind anyone of G man from Half-life. Perhaps this was valve's inspiration.
harybutts 1 year ago
The 3 people who disliked this video were fed up with the stupid scrolling text.
adelie1 1 year ago
While the footage and Sakamoto's music, this vid is very haunting and chilling. This is amazing. Never have I felt so haunted by a musical piece.
NOYoichi 1 year ago
This is the most disturbing thing I've ever heard. I love it. It's incredible.
BeautifulTragedyx21 1 year ago
......and then he(opp) shall, be known as, death, the destroyer of world .
......ultimate the destroyer.
to me, he(opp) has created the taste of death.
taste of death.
while many nice people think the world should not taste what he has created...
ironically, the taste of death has kept this world from going insane like it went from world war 1 to 2.
this art music is incredible, the darkens shades of opp's wet eyes somehow shows the eternal fear.
music by ryuichi is LIFE living in fear. nice
teletropolis 1 year ago
The final piece of our first Nuclear weapons, beryllium for the initiator, was supplied by Father Michael DeLisle Lyons, S.J. (Jesuits) of Detroit. Yep . . . a priest. For this amazing story Google "WWJ, A Jesuit and the Bomb." Fr. Lyons was my great-uncle.Fr. Macelwane of St. Louis University was also involved in the Manhattan Project. The copy of the Baghvad Gita Dr. Oppenheimer read from in the bunker was given to him by Fr. Lyons, who got it from Mahatma Gandhi. Ironic?
usrevolution2 1 year ago
@usrevolution2
that's fascinating. yeah the jesuits are involved in a lot of stuff. you should search for leo zagami project camelot on youtube. it's a 3 hour interview with leo zagami, and he talks quite a bit about this vatican stuff and what they are involved in.
1schwererziehbar1 1 year ago
I'm impressed with Oppenheimer's eyes with depression.
romeropablo 1 year ago
I believe this may be from JOHN ADAM'S Opera DOCTOR ATOMIC. The story of oppenheimer and the atomic bomb. Pretty sure but cant be positive since LIFE was short lived.
Badsbrad 2 years ago
@Badsbrad
It's not John Adams, it's an opera by Ryuichi Sakamoto called 'Life'.
catton333 1 year ago
@ Nightmareishguy
This is art, not history. and yes, we did need to hear it and Oppenheimer's desperate self doubt that came with his team's development.
I can't imagine what this man went through, knowing that he had unleashed the power of ultimate destruction into the hands of people he neither knew or trusted.
He thought he was defeating a mortal enemy, but even as he did so, he had his doubts.
JuneJune1950 2 years ago 23
@JuneJune1950 :
This is one of the finest comments I have ever read on youtube!
You have my deepest respect. Instantly.
elmerexpress 1 year ago
@elmerexpress Thank you. I beieve we are all victors and victims. Probably at the same time.
JuneJune1950 1 year ago
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@JuneJune1950 Gënjeshtar! Unë e quaj dëngla. Projekti Manhattan u emërua pas një SHKAKTUAR njeri i bërë të shekullit të 19 tërmet Manhattan nga Nikola Tesla ne Trini, Nju Jork, ku prindërit tuaj të jetuar J. Robert Oppenheimer ...
Nikola Tesla MADE THUNDER.
Nikola Tesla MADE rrufe.
Nikola Tesla MADE tërmetet.
Nikola Tesla MADE Tsunami.
Nikola Tesla MADE orteqet.
Nikola Tesla MADE Vullkani.
Këto fakte janë HIDDEN për një shekull ...
SO thotë Zoti, Perëndia juaj. - Profeti Biblike
insightllc 1 year ago
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@JuneJune1950nnnnn pooor man.... just look at him... he really feels the pain of the dead, listen to him, look at him, shit, "THE DISTROYER OF WORLDS'' hombre gris.
adrianregules 10 months ago
thanks for sharing!
bulucette 2 years ago
The music was incredible, but did we really need to hear "The destroyer of worlds," repeated in monotone for a full minute?
NightmarishGuy 2 years ago
Ryuichi's music is incredible.
ryandaddi 3 years ago 3
beautiful just beautiful
bullstriker1992 3 years ago
I think the average layman would not know that this is about the atom bomb.
Obsessions28 3 years ago
agreed, but then again that's what these comments are for
falenangel 3 years ago 4
I can't find the sheet music on ebay.
Obsessions28 3 years ago
I wonder if Nikola Tesla had anything to do with the Atom Bomb.
Obsessions28 3 years ago
Wow...! Good video.
nickwellings 3 years ago
Beautiful music. Sounds a lot like "Louange a l'Eternite de Jesus" from Messiaen's Quatuor pour la fin du temps. Pretty apropos for the subject matter, but I would guess that the juxtaposition in this case would have been frowned upon by Messiaen, who didn't like to think about such dark things
jethrodixon 3 years ago 3
@jethrodixon Your French must be rusty, because the Quartet for the End of Time is about just such a dark thing
cnmaster01 10 months ago