The FIA punished Lewis on the grounds of 'lying in behalf of the team'...I mean whats Lewis supposed to do? "My team are liars, this is not what happened...oh btw, once I leave this interview do you have a job ready for me please?" FIA are a bunch of fuckin nitwits but everyone knows that already.
The whole debacle with Alonso then various instances of bad cheating.
Mclaren are such a shady team and I don't think even Lewis likes it. I reckon hell go to red bull in 2012 if Adrian Newey is still there but you know he really wants a Ferrari drive.
Its amazing, i still dont see why he was DQed, they didnt gain anything from it, so they lost an position and then got DQed, FIA are a bunch of silly pricks, theyve made a lot of bad calls in the past, and this adds to it.
@x420Raptor1@KieranF1Kimi Hamilton was DQ'd because he and Ryan lied to the FIA. It wasn't because of any overtaking maneuvers made by Hamilton or Trulli, it was because Hamilton and Ryan lied to governing body.
@x420Raptor1 If you catch someone attempting to cheat, you have to punish them so they don't try it again. If there were no punishment, it indicates there is no risk in lying and cheating. As for the type of punishment, the fines the FIA give out are laughably insignificant and practically put a currency on cheating. The only way to really hurt the team is results and championship points. I have no sympathy for Hamilton: he lied as part of an effort to have another driver unfairly disqualified.
hamilton tried to do what was right on track so he cant be faulted there. the real issue is that mclaren and hamilton lied to cause a penalty against trulli and try to gain a podium spot. thats inexcusable!
I'm a Hamilton fan. Quite frankly, I think this was his biggest ever blunder. In his original communication to the team, he should have told them that Trulli had gone to the grass, out of the track and not "went off in a line". Hamilton's was a mistake probably because of inexperience, but the team made an even bigger one by ordering Lewis to let Trulli go before trying to fully understand the situation. They were probably afraid that Mad Max would almost certainly like to penalise them.
Ok, I may be a Ferrari fan but even I admit that he shouldn't have deserved this penalty. I just don't think some people have actually watched this video. You must be retarded to think that Hamilton deserved that penalty.
@KieranF1Kimi Just for your information, Trulli and Toyota got penalized because of Hamilton's and McLaren's lie. Do you think that this was fare to them and if yes, do you think that drivers should lie in order to gain points at the expense of other drivers and teams?
Retarded??? Why??? He lied twice to the stewards in expence of penalizing Trulli who was completely innocent in this case.... It's evident tha he deserved his penalty!!!
@KieranF1Kimi Are you fucking stupid? So were just supposed to look the other way and allow people to lie their way onto the podium? Im glad your not in charge of the rules.....
@KieranF1Kimi 5+ thumbs up...SO WHAT? Those are just Hamilton fans. The same hamilton fans that defend him for his cheating in valencia, CUTTING the chicane against raikkonen and the rest of his dirty antics. It's never a penalty when your favorite driver does it, only when another driver does. Thank god the people in charge of the rules have some sense, which is more than I can say for those people who gave you 5+ thumbs up and other certain people out there.......
@aieljose I think Hamilton is a cheating bastard, yes. You actually don't realise how much I hate Hamilton. I was so angry when he crashed into Raikkonen in the pitlane, skipped the chicane in Spa and got an unfair advantage, overtaking the SC in Valencia. I fucking hate him with a passion. He's the luckiest prick alive. He's a dangerous driver also. There you go, shows I'm not a Hamilton fanboy, especially when I have "Kimi" in my name as well.
@KieranF1Kimi cutting the chicane at spa was to avoid a collision with kimi. its too tight for two cars to be side by side and he conceded the position back to kimi so i think his time penalty at spa was a total bullshit call. he did exactly what the rules expected him to do after cutting the chicane.
the valencia incident i agree with you on. only hammy fanatics would defend that.
@didickcheeseburger I think the timed penalty was a bit too far but he took the position back too soon. He was speeding up and Kimi was passing him, therefore he had the advantage. I agree on how there wasn't any space and he had to skip the chicane but Hamilton was marginally faster than Kimi so why did he have to pass him on his straight? He could have easily passed him after Eau Rouge.
@KieranF1Kimi i think hammy had an advantage even after giving the lead back to kimi. the rule shouldve been that he has to follow kimi through the next turn to negate any possible advantage. but thats not the rule. lewis shouldnt have to take it upon himself to do anything the rules dont tell him to do. he shouldve had no penalty at all.
@KieranF1Kimi Hamilton aint lucky and he isnt dangerous get a grip. When we look a t spa he did everything by the book but still a penalty and the funny thing is the rules were changed weeks later because of that incidet, the fia had to save their own asses. And if you knew anything about valencia or the safety car line you would have known that it would be ok to overtake the safety car if he didnt hesitate for that brief moment. Get a grip!
@puddingpants7 HAHA, here's another Hamilton fan. He wouldn't have got the penalty if he done everything by the books. And that last bit, I don't know what the fuck you're on about. If you're saying it's alright to overtake the safety car then you Sir, are talking complete bullshit. Just go and fuck off, seriously. This was ages ago.
@KieranF1Kimi HAHA read the rules for both incidents you arrogant dipshit. There is a white line for the safety car that marks when it enters the track he passed after it crossed the white line because he hesitated. Spa he let Kimi Raikkonen re pass and at the time it didnt say anywhere in the rules that you had to let him maintain the position for another corner . so you fuck off.
@puddingpants7 haha, load of bullshit. Right, ok, whatever you say. At Spa, okay, he had to go over the chicane and yes, he let Raikkonen through. But when he was letting Raikkonen through, he was getting up to speed. Raikkonen wasn't even fully passed Hamilton yet. That's gaining an advantage. So that meant Hamilton had a better chance of getting through the corner first. Watch it again and you might learn something.
@KieranF1Kimi Hahaaa blahblahblah . He did everything by the rule book, if you want to talk about getting through the corner first once again that was 'nowhere' in the rule books at the time. He was penalized afterwards and the rules were changed weeks later because of this one incident so the fia can save their own asses. He was miles better than Raikkonen that day and its a shame he was stripped of a victory. you have no point.
@puddingpants7 I do have a point. My point is very much certainly valid. Alot of PROPER F1 fans have said this before. He wasn't miles better than Raikkonen. Only on the last 10 laps he was slightly better than Raikkonen. Take your F1 'knowledge' and go away, give me some peace. Why don't you shut up and stop being such a Hamilton fanboy!? Seriously, you Hamilton fans cry like mad when something doesn't go your way. I, as a Ferrari fan, just get on with it.
@KieranF1Kimi Well nobody said he was slightly worse, *B.S* and you can ask all the PROPER fans you know and they'll say the penalty was too much.
Aha typical of you to cry fanboy after I presented the facts in a coherent manner and opened your eyes to the things you seem oblivious to. By the way you dont see me with Kimi or Hammy in my username whos the fanboy really? Your bogus comment was too much, keep hatin on Hammy, he's class.... as a mclaren fan, bye!
@puddingpants7 I do agree that the penalty was a bit harsh, but he still deserved a penalty. He has talent, can't use it most of the time though. Monza, Singapore this year, his mistakes cost him that championship because he is too aggressive.
@agele82 I cannot accept your view because it is ridiculous & biased and you have in no way justified Senna's actions. You obviously forgot that Senna had already planned to take Prost out BEFORE the start of the race. So it had nothing to do with adrenaline, or passion, or a wish to win, it was dangerous, pre-meditated cheating that could have resulted in severe injury or worse.
But you think a lie (off the track) is worse? Your judgment is deluded.
You say things that I have never mentioned. I have justified only Senna action in Suzuka. What I meant was that during the race when there is adrenaline, passion and a wish to win, an incorrect move during a battle can of course be condemned, but it is not a shame as lying afterwards in order to penalize and deliberately blame another driver (Trulli in this case). Maybe I am too honest and you are maybe used to lie....thats why u cannot accept my view.
I think that Hamilton is the best talent in F1, I would never criticize an aggressive and illegal action during the race. But I do criticize a man who lie in a "political" way. Liar.
So you think it's perfectly ok for a driver to cheat on the track, or deliberately crash or impede a competitor, and you also think it's of for a driver to use illegal equipment... again on the track, but you have a problem with what is said off the track to the stewards?
LOL, talk about double standards, your comment smacks of hypocrisy. I don't have to call you anything as you are making yourself sound like an idiot.
Senna had always admitted that he wanted go get ahead in the first turn, due to the decision to put him on the wrong side of the track after pole. He had never lied like Hamilton. Then, I did not criticize actions that happened during the race, but the fact that he lied afterwards. Moreover, call other people idiot do not make you seem smarter.
Are you on drugs? He stopped racing karts years ago after winning numerous karting titles, didn't you know that?
Then Hamilton went to single seaters and won a Formula Renault title, then he went to Europe and won an F3 euroseries title & a GP2 title.
And the caliber of drivers Hamilton beat in those lower formulae include Sebastian Vettel, Nico Rosberg, Timo Glock, Adrian Sutil, Nelson Piquet, Paul DiResta, Lucas DiGrassi, Sebastian Buemi ect ect.
Monaco? Lol, I think you are confusing him with Button. Hamilton lives in Geneva, but he's no different to Button, Coulthard, Mansell, Irvine and all the other F1 drivers from the British Isles who packed their bags and fucked off to live in tax havens alongside all the other F1 drivers.
Why would anyone with a shit load of £ and more than half a braincell stick around in the UK and pay bullshit taxes to a government of useless, incompetent fuckwits who will piss every penny of it up the wall?
@09Murphy09 The bottom line is that Hamilton decided to lie along with his team after the race in order to claim third place from Trulli, he could've said that he was told by the team to let Trulli past, but he didn't so the blame falls on his shoulders as much as the team's.
@09Murphy09 Hamilton was told by his team to lie to the stewards and he did, twice!! If he is not to be blamed at all then, same thing should stand for Nelson Pk Junior who was told by his team to crash his car so that his teammate wins the race effectively changing not only the outcome of the race but probably the whole championships as well.
@LeontariF1 - That's the thing, I agree with you about Piquet too. He was victimised by Renault, and now any chance of him driving in F1 in the future has gone down the drain. I believe Piquet was far more talented than his performances showed; he was under constant pressure from Briatore. Briatore used to remind him before every race that Grosjean was waiting to take his place. It turns out Grosjean was crap. In both cases, they had to do what they did or else they would have lost their jobs.
@09Murphy09 Hamilton a victim? Seriously! He lied in order to put himself and his team at an unfair advantage. He is a grown man and should face the consequences of his actions, regardless if he was told to. By your logic, anyone dependent worker should be allowed to be deceitful or commit illegal acts if told do so by their employers.
@09Murphy09 He lied becase the team told him to. The right thing to do would have been to tell the truth that the team DID in fact tell him to let Trulli past but it's obvious that Hamilton cares more about winning than he does about doing the right thing.
@aieljose Dave Ryan told Lewis what to say and Lewis was under the impression that Dave Ryan knew what he was talking about. He was actually lying and Lewis was caught in the middle. DR was fired after this anyway so we can see who the real culprit was. Also this was third place up for grabs. Where did you get the whole "cares more about winning" idea from?
How many other drivers have lied to stewards? Schumi lied to stewards at Monaco when he told them he couldn't make the corner. Alonso lied to stewards at Hungaroring when he told them his engineer told him to wait, yet telemetry showed this was a lie. Melbourne stewards didn't believe Trullis version of events, so he lied aswell? Many drivers have deceived stewards but none were vilified for it the way Hamilton was. The fact is he did nothing wrong on the track and should have been 3rd.
Nope, Trulli overtook Hamilton under waved yellows, regardless of what was said on the radio, overtaking under waved yellows is illegal. Fuji 07 Massa was given a drive thru for spinning off behind the safety car then re-taking his position. Drivers let him back in, but it was not there responsibility, nor was it Hamiltons in melbourne.
@bmk139 Trulli overtook him because he thought Hamilton had a race-ending problem. Jarno was penalized 25 seconds because at the time it was not known that Lewis was told to let Jarno go. When asked about it, Lewis said he was never told to let Jarno go, to make it seem as if Jarno had done it on his own. He kept to the story in Malaysia as well, even when being played the radio transmission which is included in this video.
Yeah that is what Trulli told stewards, but they didn't believe him.
I'm aware of what was said over the radio, but you don't have to be a Mclaren fan to realize this was something of a stitch up, the FIA discovered Mclarens telemetry days after the race, but why couldn't they find Toyaota's telemetry? And why did Charlie Whiting ignore 6 requests from Mclaren asking for clarification? That's bizarre.
The 'yellow flag' no passing rule means exactly that, Hamilton did nothing wrong on track.
@bmk139 On track, Lewis did nothing wrong. He did what his team told him to do. I agree. But it's what happened off track, with the stewards, that made this whole mess. If McLaren had told the truth, then the stewards would not have penalized Trulli, and Hamilton would've been 4th. Yes, passing under waved yellows is illegal, but what did you expect Jarno to do when Lewis just suddenly slows down and stays to the right of the track (which later turned out to be Lewis trying to let him past)?
That's the point I was making though, if Hamilton had done nothing, Trulli would have been penalized for overtaking under yellows. If you listen to Trulli's engine as he passes Lewis, you can hear him noticeably accelerating, but the lack of Toyota's telemetry means that Mclaren couldn't argue that point. I agree that the whole thing was bullshit and should never have happened, but had it been another driver in another team, we both know the driver wouldn't have been vilified the way Lewis was.
Lewis did what he was told. You cant blame him for the incident. Lets face it, he would have got the boot from mclaren if he dropped them in it. With the amount of money he is on, I would have shut my mouth aswell to be fair.
how can anyone possibly justify hamilton being in the right. ffs if he went out on a massacre and killed hundreds of people, people would still blame someone else. its pathetic
i agree with pascalAMG, you dont know nothing about formula one, no driver is shit in f1, they are all good, its just that the cars plays a role in how well they do, like for example nakajima is definetly not as good as rosberg but twice nakajima out qualified him so no one is a shit f1 driver, mabye you ought to frive a f1 car and see how hard it is to drive, forget about stalling the car, you probably wouldnt even be able to get in the car
no but ur making it sound as if its easy to drive an f1 car, because of the way ur saying hamilton is shit. you dont understand how hard f1 cars are to drive, i may never experience an f1 car but one thing i know is how sophisticated they are and the g forces that drivers can withstand
and anyway how is hamilton shit if he won a world championship, i guess its just a bit of jealously
championships..... retard. Formula 1 world champion 2008. GP2 champion 2006. European Formula 3 champion 2005. Masters of Formula 3 winner 2005. Bahrain F3 Superprix winner 2004. British Formula Renault 2.0 champion 2003. European European champion Formula A 2000. World Cup Formula A champion 2000. Second in European Championship ICA Junior 1999. Super 1 National Formula Yamaha champion 1997. Winner of the Kartmasters British Grand Prix in the Cadet class 1996.
well, usually there is an advantage to have a good car. but the ferraris wasn't worse than the mclaren. kovalainen was 7th in the championship (with the best car?), kimi and massa was 2nd and 3rd. Giving ferrari more points in the team championship. and brawn started developing their 2009 car more than 2 years ago, while mclaren had to start after the 2008 season. and btw, 1998 he was like 14 years old so no matter what he came it doesnt matter. 2002 he was p3 in british FR as rookie. 2001 i dno
is that enough information for you to accept that hes a fucking good driver? i know alot of people who have been working with him, and ppl that have seen him growing up, saying that its a natural born talent over anything else..
I bet he can. And if u say that Hamilton won only because of his car, then look at Schumacher? Formula 1 has been extremely competetive and even the 3 seasons Hamilton has driven. Look at the seasons when the Ferraris and McLarens was lapping the minardis after 10 laps. I REALLY dont say that SChumi is bad but i say that he had the best car almost all the time he drove, and he faught against a way less more competetive field. Häkkinen/Senna are the true legends, not Schumacher. Hamilton will be
Hakkinen and Senna were both amazing drivers. If Senna wouldn't die I bet he'd won more championships than Schumacher.
And Hakkinen had a terrible crash in Adelaide 95'. Maybe he would win more than 2 championships if he wouldn't crash. But you've got to admit that Schumacher currently is the Legend.
The problem with that is that Hakkinen was thought by many to have gotten better after the crash, so maybe if Hakkinen had not crashed then he wouldn't have won two titles. Senna may have won two more titles, but who knows. There was no way Senna was going to beat a Schumacher in his prime in a car that was not as good as Schumi's.
come on man most of F1 drivers have been champions in most of these series and that's why they r in formula 1. it's a matter of how lucky u r to get in to a top team. look at sebastian Bourdais, he's a 4 time champ car champion n he ended up in torro rosso!
its not about how lucky you are.. some ppl pay alot of money to get into good teams but they usually end up in GP2 last in the field. ppl always think its about the team.. u have to prove that u are really fast, then i mean REALLY fast, then some of the top teams will contact u and they help u through ur career. look in formula 3 euroseries, theres 3 drivers in the ART team who havent scored a single point, and ART is the team who has won for 3 seasons in a row.
yes he lied, but on track he did nothing wrong, he did as his team told him just as any driver would have done. and he lied because his team told him to lie, if he doesnt do as they say he could lose his drive, he if given the choice i dont think would have lied, why would Ryan get suspended ... because he told lewis to lie
You dont have to be a Hamilton fanboy to realise that the whole thing was bullshit and smacked of a stitch up.
Fuji07-Massa was given a drive thru for spinning off under waved yellows then retaking his position behind the safety car,but obviously the radio now trumps FIA regs. Stewards didnt believe Trullis account @ melbourne, so he lied aswell? And how strange that Toyotas telemetry couldnt be found.
At monaco, Schumy lied to stewards but he was never vilified for it the way Hamilton was.
F1 management has always had a thing for lewis and mclaren... I don't understand though. They were confused. Lewis let trulli by anyway >:| why is he disqualified?
They lied. They said they didnt let Trulli by, but pit radio suggests otherwise. Toyota appealed Trulli's disqualification, and found evidence suggesting McLaren lied. So he was disqualified.
If they didnt lie, they would have had at least 4th place. They could have been given 3rd even.
But no, they lied. And lewis has no excuse. He lied off his own back, you cant say he was doing what the team says; he didnt in 2007 when he didnt let Alonso through, when he let lewis through previously.
The f*cking visuals suggest otherwise. Is it necessary to take radio transmissions to prove this? It's stupid. With your own eyes you can see hamilton let trulli by. Whats the big conspiracy here? That somebody told lewis to let trulli by and he did so, then mclaren probably unknowingly lied? I don't understand the f.i.a sometimes.
07? that's history! Fernando and Mclaren didn't get along bottom line. also, did alonso let lewis into his pit on time? or did he sit there for a good 15 seconds?
they did let truli past but the said that truli went past him without hamilton letting him and they were under the safety car. if that was true trulli should have been penalized but they let him past.
This whole situation was a mess. If you'd ask me, F1 really got off to a horrible start, due to F1 Management interventions etc. I think F1 is hurting itself by over regulating. I'm probably going to stop watching every race.
trulli went wide in a turn. Lewis hamilton came behind trulli and passed him. since it's not allowed to pass when safety car is out, hamilton gave trulli his position back. That is how i see this thing after i did a bit research. Yea i heard the team radio things. As far as i see here it all went by the book. its not allowed to overtake when safety car is out and that is what hamilton fixed after he passed trulli when trulli went wide.
dude, they all make mistakes, and if Hamilton wasn't a fucking liar it wouldn't have turned out such a mediacircus. I'm SO happy they found out mclaren lied. Cos they just took Trulli's p3 from him. Hamilton sucks.
I think lewis and mclaren were confused. and this is such a little incident I don't think lewis remembers half the things he says on the radio during that race. Lewis hamilton doesn't suck you idiot. He's worked hard his whole life to get where he is now. are you an f1 pilot?
Dude, he worked hard his whole life, fine, but he's lied. He didn't sound like in the middle of super concentration, barely able to talk to the team, no he sound clear and calm when he LIED and SCREWED Trulli over while lying. I'm not an F1 pilot, Trulli is. He was going for a well-deserved 3rd place, and your saint lewis lied and took his 3rd place from him. How dya think it makes Trulli feel? hamilton is just upset cos he's not driving at the front anymore so he steals other people's podiums.
Why do you keep harping on " he screwed trulli over" even though Trulli went off the fucking track through his own fault and lewis passed him But **let him by again**, following the rules. And if you watched lewis hamiltons press conference a race later you would see that he was told to lie for the team. But At the press conference he came clean you idiot. Dave ryan knew what the implications were so he asked lewis to lie, get it right.
The McLaren team did clearly lie to the stewards regarding this incident, I won't deny that. However, in some ways I feel that Hamilton was put into an unfair position here, because he ended up taking the blame for McLaren's mistake. Even though he would have realised that his team was trying to get themselves out of the hole that they'd dug for themselves, Lewis could only have gone along with McLaren's story, after all, he is their driver. If he hadn't, he would have probably been sacked too.
no disrespect to jarno trulli coz i think hes a gr8 driver , but he shouldnt have ran wide in the first place , under safety car conditions as well, if he didnt ran wide, then none of this would have happened
he wasn't disqualified for overtaking trulli he was disqualified for letting pass when he should have kep position, you can take a car under the safety car if he has run offtrack, the reason it didn't happen to coulthard in melbourne 02 is because the regulations change
Pretty much yes, McLaren said that Hamilton didn't let Trulli through and that Trulli overtook Hamilton without Hamilton cooperating. So Trulli was punished, until the pit-radio recordings were discovered.
he wasnt disqualifed so letting trulli pass he got disqualified for lettin trulli past then deny he let him through on purpose , cos if he didnt let him on purpose trulli wud hav the penalty but hamilton moved out his way and the stewards heard this on the team radio
he got disqualified for letting trulli pass him, then he lied to the race stewards saying trulli overtook him on purpose under the safety car, instead of saying he let him pass because he overtook him after trulli had run off the track, trulli would not have gotten a penalty because it would have been deamed suitable circumstance to overtake, it was after the stewards asked for the team radio that mcclaren were busted, look up your FIA regulations douche bag
i'm sorry maybe if you could type like a normal person and not use all your gangster abbrieviation shit i might be able to understand you, furthermore i stated everything correctly in my first comment hmmmkay
Ganster abbrieviation ur a funny fucker its called saving time nearly everyone tht leaves comments on youtube write like it ,, and i dnt care what u stated in ur first comment cos i was answering some 1's question ,, So suck my balls u prick
1. Trulli got demoted after lewis claimed Mclaren did not instruct him to let trulli pass
2. it conflicted with what was heard over the radio, (news reports said ''Lewis insisted he was not told to move over.. despite what the radio conversations suggested'').
Wednesday (Sepang):
3. lewis got disqualified (for providing misleading information) after Charlie Whiting's repeated questioning couldn't bring about the desired answers
The FIA punished Lewis on the grounds of 'lying in behalf of the team'...I mean whats Lewis supposed to do? "My team are liars, this is not what happened...oh btw, once I leave this interview do you have a job ready for me please?" FIA are a bunch of fuckin nitwits but everyone knows that already.
Invincible278 6 days ago
Hamilton shouldn't have been punished, but McLaren? Definitely.
They should've at least let Lewis keep P4. He merely trusted his team.
Hell, I'm a Massa fan and I still think this whole situation was ridiculous and that Lewis did not deserve this.
naibalucian 1 week ago
The real question is what made them think they would get away with it.
skeletorphd 4 months ago
i dont get it, y did he get a dq???
reiny6474 4 months ago
Well served, Lewes is being dick 24/7
ShaldyRU 6 months ago
Fair enough, Lewis was in the meeting as well.
jaykulls 7 months ago
I've lost so much respect for Mclaren since 2007.
The whole debacle with Alonso then various instances of bad cheating.
Mclaren are such a shady team and I don't think even Lewis likes it. I reckon hell go to red bull in 2012 if Adrian Newey is still there but you know he really wants a Ferrari drive.
skeletorphd 8 months ago
This is why I don't watch Formula 1. This team orders faggotry is bullshit. It demeans racing.
skankuser 8 months ago
Its amazing, i still dont see why he was DQed, they didnt gain anything from it, so they lost an position and then got DQed, FIA are a bunch of silly pricks, theyve made a lot of bad calls in the past, and this adds to it.
x420Raptor1 9 months ago 3
@x420Raptor1 @KieranF1Kimi Hamilton was DQ'd because he and Ryan lied to the FIA. It wasn't because of any overtaking maneuvers made by Hamilton or Trulli, it was because Hamilton and Ryan lied to governing body.
carsismeZ06 3 months ago
@x420Raptor1 - Have you forgotten that Hamilton blatantly lied to the stewards to get that 3rd place and Trulli was initially disqualified?
If it was Alonso who did this you'd be in hysterics. He got a penalty, deal with it.
FormulaOneFan4Eva 3 months ago
@x420Raptor1 If you catch someone attempting to cheat, you have to punish them so they don't try it again. If there were no punishment, it indicates there is no risk in lying and cheating. As for the type of punishment, the fines the FIA give out are laughably insignificant and practically put a currency on cheating. The only way to really hurt the team is results and championship points. I have no sympathy for Hamilton: he lied as part of an effort to have another driver unfairly disqualified.
TheNation6 3 months ago
McLaren You C**ksucking Lairs
bansal24000 11 months ago
@bansal24000 Lairs, really?
simok97 11 months ago
Why they lied to the stewards?? idiots... the penalty was just right.
koistinennnn 1 year ago
was it worth it for 3 points. I think not.
reconstrucdead1 1 year ago
@reconstrucdead1 it was 1. and remember he cant win a champ by more than 1 point
iamQmai11 1 year ago
Who was Hamilton's engineer?
Jak3xSilverlight 1 year ago
@Jak3xSilverlight Dave Ryan. He was fired after this.
puddingpants7 1 year ago
@puddingpants7 One of the greatest voices of F1!
Jak3xSilverlight 1 year ago
@Jak3xSilverlight I wonder if hes ever seen or heard this of himself xD
puddingpants7 1 year ago
BS!!
arzyTUBE 1 year ago
if he hadn 't lied nothing would have happened to hamilton am i right ???
cause trulli overtook hamilton while there were yellow flag wich isn't allowed but also hamilton let him pass so who's the bad man???
anyway hamilton lied so...
enverelkeda 1 year ago
hamilton tried to do what was right on track so he cant be faulted there. the real issue is that mclaren and hamilton lied to cause a penalty against trulli and try to gain a podium spot. thats inexcusable!
didickcheeseburger 1 year ago
This is just silly. McLaren knows as well as anybody that their radio conversations are both monitored and saved for afterwards...
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gregor00005 1 year ago
I'm a Hamilton fan. Quite frankly, I think this was his biggest ever blunder. In his original communication to the team, he should have told them that Trulli had gone to the grass, out of the track and not "went off in a line". Hamilton's was a mistake probably because of inexperience, but the team made an even bigger one by ordering Lewis to let Trulli go before trying to fully understand the situation. They were probably afraid that Mad Max would almost certainly like to penalise them.
Deniz1923 1 year ago
@Deniz1923
He said clearly that the Toyota "went off the track" though.
mrmootheirrev 1 year ago
CHEATER!
eduardothe100 1 year ago
Ok, I may be a Ferrari fan but even I admit that he shouldn't have deserved this penalty. I just don't think some people have actually watched this video. You must be retarded to think that Hamilton deserved that penalty.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago 10
@KieranF1Kimi Just for your information, Trulli and Toyota got penalized because of Hamilton's and McLaren's lie. Do you think that this was fare to them and if yes, do you think that drivers should lie in order to gain points at the expense of other drivers and teams?
LeontariF1 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi
Retarded??? Why??? He lied twice to the stewards in expence of penalizing Trulli who was completely innocent in this case.... It's evident tha he deserved his penalty!!!
fugoid89 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi Are you fucking stupid? So were just supposed to look the other way and allow people to lie their way onto the podium? Im glad your not in charge of the rules.....
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose Funny how i got +5 thumbs up...
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi That just proves that 5+ people are just as stupid as you. Probably Mclaren fans.
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose haha, that comment just proves that you need to shut up right now. Oh and btw, I'm a Ferrari fan just to let you know.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi Your still an idiot who doesn't think lying to better yourself at the expense of others warrants any punishment. Your an idiot!
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose haha, keep thinking that. you've got nowhere to go in this argument. goodbye :)
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi If that's the best you got it's obvious you're the one that doesn't have anywhere to go...goodbye :)
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose you're comment was pointless so there really was nowhere to go in the first place. Just remember, I have +5 thumbs up ;)
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi LOL My comment was pointless? ROFL! You really are a dumb fuck.
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose this is classic. I'll keep saying it - +5 thumbs up.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi 5+ thumbs up...SO WHAT? Those are just Hamilton fans. The same hamilton fans that defend him for his cheating in valencia, CUTTING the chicane against raikkonen and the rest of his dirty antics. It's never a penalty when your favorite driver does it, only when another driver does. Thank god the people in charge of the rules have some sense, which is more than I can say for those people who gave you 5+ thumbs up and other certain people out there.......
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose I think Hamilton is a cheating bastard, yes. You actually don't realise how much I hate Hamilton. I was so angry when he crashed into Raikkonen in the pitlane, skipped the chicane in Spa and got an unfair advantage, overtaking the SC in Valencia. I fucking hate him with a passion. He's the luckiest prick alive. He's a dangerous driver also. There you go, shows I'm not a Hamilton fanboy, especially when I have "Kimi" in my name as well.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi cutting the chicane at spa was to avoid a collision with kimi. its too tight for two cars to be side by side and he conceded the position back to kimi so i think his time penalty at spa was a total bullshit call. he did exactly what the rules expected him to do after cutting the chicane.
the valencia incident i agree with you on. only hammy fanatics would defend that.
didickcheeseburger 1 year ago
@didickcheeseburger I think the timed penalty was a bit too far but he took the position back too soon. He was speeding up and Kimi was passing him, therefore he had the advantage. I agree on how there wasn't any space and he had to skip the chicane but Hamilton was marginally faster than Kimi so why did he have to pass him on his straight? He could have easily passed him after Eau Rouge.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi i think hammy had an advantage even after giving the lead back to kimi. the rule shouldve been that he has to follow kimi through the next turn to negate any possible advantage. but thats not the rule. lewis shouldnt have to take it upon himself to do anything the rules dont tell him to do. he shouldve had no penalty at all.
didickcheeseburger 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi Hamilton aint lucky and he isnt dangerous get a grip. When we look a t spa he did everything by the book but still a penalty and the funny thing is the rules were changed weeks later because of that incidet, the fia had to save their own asses. And if you knew anything about valencia or the safety car line you would have known that it would be ok to overtake the safety car if he didnt hesitate for that brief moment. Get a grip!
puddingpants7 1 year ago
@puddingpants7 HAHA, here's another Hamilton fan. He wouldn't have got the penalty if he done everything by the books. And that last bit, I don't know what the fuck you're on about. If you're saying it's alright to overtake the safety car then you Sir, are talking complete bullshit. Just go and fuck off, seriously. This was ages ago.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi HAHA read the rules for both incidents you arrogant dipshit. There is a white line for the safety car that marks when it enters the track he passed after it crossed the white line because he hesitated. Spa he let Kimi Raikkonen re pass and at the time it didnt say anywhere in the rules that you had to let him maintain the position for another corner . so you fuck off.
puddingpants7 1 year ago
@puddingpants7 haha, load of bullshit. Right, ok, whatever you say. At Spa, okay, he had to go over the chicane and yes, he let Raikkonen through. But when he was letting Raikkonen through, he was getting up to speed. Raikkonen wasn't even fully passed Hamilton yet. That's gaining an advantage. So that meant Hamilton had a better chance of getting through the corner first. Watch it again and you might learn something.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi Hahaaa blahblahblah . He did everything by the rule book, if you want to talk about getting through the corner first once again that was 'nowhere' in the rule books at the time. He was penalized afterwards and the rules were changed weeks later because of this one incident so the fia can save their own asses. He was miles better than Raikkonen that day and its a shame he was stripped of a victory. you have no point.
puddingpants7 1 year ago
@puddingpants7 I do have a point. My point is very much certainly valid. Alot of PROPER F1 fans have said this before. He wasn't miles better than Raikkonen. Only on the last 10 laps he was slightly better than Raikkonen. Take your F1 'knowledge' and go away, give me some peace. Why don't you shut up and stop being such a Hamilton fanboy!? Seriously, you Hamilton fans cry like mad when something doesn't go your way. I, as a Ferrari fan, just get on with it.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi Well nobody said he was slightly worse, *B.S* and you can ask all the PROPER fans you know and they'll say the penalty was too much.
Aha typical of you to cry fanboy after I presented the facts in a coherent manner and opened your eyes to the things you seem oblivious to. By the way you dont see me with Kimi or Hammy in my username whos the fanboy really? Your bogus comment was too much, keep hatin on Hammy, he's class.... as a mclaren fan, bye!
puddingpants7 1 year ago
@puddingpants7 I do agree that the penalty was a bit harsh, but he still deserved a penalty. He has talent, can't use it most of the time though. Monza, Singapore this year, his mistakes cost him that championship because he is too aggressive.
As you said "bye", i win.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi Save it man, you're a disgraceful fan.
puddingpants7 1 year ago
@puddingpants7 bit rich coming from you.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
@KieranF1Kimi I've only provided facts, you've provided a biased opinion.
puddingpants7 1 year ago
where did you get this from???
kedharf1 2 years ago
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@agele82 I cannot accept your view because it is ridiculous & biased and you have in no way justified Senna's actions. You obviously forgot that Senna had already planned to take Prost out BEFORE the start of the race. So it had nothing to do with adrenaline, or passion, or a wish to win, it was dangerous, pre-meditated cheating that could have resulted in severe injury or worse.
But you think a lie (off the track) is worse? Your judgment is deluded.
bmk139 2 years ago
You say things that I have never mentioned. I have justified only Senna action in Suzuka. What I meant was that during the race when there is adrenaline, passion and a wish to win, an incorrect move during a battle can of course be condemned, but it is not a shame as lying afterwards in order to penalize and deliberately blame another driver (Trulli in this case). Maybe I am too honest and you are maybe used to lie....thats why u cannot accept my view.
agele82 2 years ago
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bmk139 2 years ago
I think that Hamilton is the best talent in F1, I would never criticize an aggressive and illegal action during the race. But I do criticize a man who lie in a "political" way. Liar.
agele82 2 years ago
So you think it's perfectly ok for a driver to cheat on the track, or deliberately crash or impede a competitor, and you also think it's of for a driver to use illegal equipment... again on the track, but you have a problem with what is said off the track to the stewards?
LOL, talk about double standards, your comment smacks of hypocrisy. I don't have to call you anything as you are making yourself sound like an idiot.
bmk139 2 years ago
@agele82 yes his first season in F-1 was very very impressive except last few races
GuessWhoIAm03101991 2 years ago
Senna had always admitted that he wanted go get ahead in the first turn, due to the decision to put him on the wrong side of the track after pole. He had never lied like Hamilton. Then, I did not criticize actions that happened during the race, but the fact that he lied afterwards. Moreover, call other people idiot do not make you seem smarter.
agele82 2 years ago
He lied. Real Men and Champions like Senna would have never lied like that. This is the difference, Hamilton would never be such a Man.
agele82 2 years ago
@agele82 Get over it you idiot, people lie every day, and as for "real men & champions", perhaps you forgot about Senna deliberately ramming Prost?
And what about Schumi, ramming Hill & Villeneuve off the track? He too lied to stewards @ Monaco, used illegal TC&LC and pulled numerous dirty moves.
Alonso also lied to stewards @ hungary07, and tried to blackmail his team.
Even Button got a 3 race ban for having an illegal fuel tank, so does that mean they aren't 'real' men either?
bmk139 2 years ago
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First i would hammy is not a man, just a trained minion!
Second, hammy has no talent and does not belong in F1 , he should go back to his beloved England and race little karts around indoor tracks.
MrFangole 2 years ago
Are you on drugs? He stopped racing karts years ago after winning numerous karting titles, didn't you know that?
Then Hamilton went to single seaters and won a Formula Renault title, then he went to Europe and won an F3 euroseries title & a GP2 title.
And the caliber of drivers Hamilton beat in those lower formulae include Sebastian Vettel, Nico Rosberg, Timo Glock, Adrian Sutil, Nelson Piquet, Paul DiResta, Lucas DiGrassi, Sebastian Buemi ect ect.
bmk139 2 years ago
I tend to agree with you in part that hammy is the same caliber has Buemi..
But yes I should consider his achievement running little go karts around indoor tracks to prove his worth.
After all he is a brit , who moved to Monaco so that he would not pay taxes to his beloved country.
Yes sir, we have a winner here, corrupt to the last molecule in his body. Long live the brits!
MrFangole 2 years ago
Monaco? Lol, I think you are confusing him with Button. Hamilton lives in Geneva, but he's no different to Button, Coulthard, Mansell, Irvine and all the other F1 drivers from the British Isles who packed their bags and fucked off to live in tax havens alongside all the other F1 drivers.
Why would anyone with a shit load of £ and more than half a braincell stick around in the UK and pay bullshit taxes to a government of useless, incompetent fuckwits who will piss every penny of it up the wall?
bmk139 1 year ago
On that comment I tend to agree! Though this not a UK only issue!
MrFangole 1 year ago
@bmk139 I agree. I don't actually see why they move. They have enough money, they could easily pay taxes.
KieranF1Kimi 1 year ago
Bottom line is that it wasn't Hamilton's fault. The McLaren team made a cock-up, tried to fix it, and Lewis became the victim.
09Murphy09 2 years ago 23
@09Murphy09 The bottom line is that Hamilton decided to lie along with his team after the race in order to claim third place from Trulli, he could've said that he was told by the team to let Trulli past, but he didn't so the blame falls on his shoulders as much as the team's.
MrTaffyMann 1 year ago
@09Murphy09 Hamilton was told by his team to lie to the stewards and he did, twice!! If he is not to be blamed at all then, same thing should stand for Nelson Pk Junior who was told by his team to crash his car so that his teammate wins the race effectively changing not only the outcome of the race but probably the whole championships as well.
LeontariF1 1 year ago
@LeontariF1 - That's the thing, I agree with you about Piquet too. He was victimised by Renault, and now any chance of him driving in F1 in the future has gone down the drain. I believe Piquet was far more talented than his performances showed; he was under constant pressure from Briatore. Briatore used to remind him before every race that Grosjean was waiting to take his place. It turns out Grosjean was crap. In both cases, they had to do what they did or else they would have lost their jobs.
09Murphy09 1 year ago
@09Murphy09 Hamilton a victim? Seriously! He lied in order to put himself and his team at an unfair advantage. He is a grown man and should face the consequences of his actions, regardless if he was told to. By your logic, anyone dependent worker should be allowed to be deceitful or commit illegal acts if told do so by their employers.
1984ThoughtPolice 1 year ago
@09Murphy09 He lied becase the team told him to. The right thing to do would have been to tell the truth that the team DID in fact tell him to let Trulli past but it's obvious that Hamilton cares more about winning than he does about doing the right thing.
aieljose 1 year ago
@aieljose Dave Ryan told Lewis what to say and Lewis was under the impression that Dave Ryan knew what he was talking about. He was actually lying and Lewis was caught in the middle. DR was fired after this anyway so we can see who the real culprit was. Also this was third place up for grabs. Where did you get the whole "cares more about winning" idea from?
jraybay 8 months ago
One thing I can say is that it wasn't Hamilton's fault.
That was Ryan who told him what to do.
Lewis has just asked about the situation.
pjc2 2 years ago
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LOL McLIEren.
UltimateWheelman 2 years ago
How many other drivers have lied to stewards? Schumi lied to stewards at Monaco when he told them he couldn't make the corner. Alonso lied to stewards at Hungaroring when he told them his engineer told him to wait, yet telemetry showed this was a lie. Melbourne stewards didn't believe Trullis version of events, so he lied aswell? Many drivers have deceived stewards but none were vilified for it the way Hamilton was. The fact is he did nothing wrong on the track and should have been 3rd.
bmk139 2 years ago
@bmk139 Except he was told to give back the place and then told to lie about it. He shouldn't have been 3rd. He should've been 4th.
UltimateWheelman 2 years ago
Nope, Trulli overtook Hamilton under waved yellows, regardless of what was said on the radio, overtaking under waved yellows is illegal. Fuji 07 Massa was given a drive thru for spinning off behind the safety car then re-taking his position. Drivers let him back in, but it was not there responsibility, nor was it Hamiltons in melbourne.
bmk139 2 years ago
@bmk139 Trulli overtook him because he thought Hamilton had a race-ending problem. Jarno was penalized 25 seconds because at the time it was not known that Lewis was told to let Jarno go. When asked about it, Lewis said he was never told to let Jarno go, to make it seem as if Jarno had done it on his own. He kept to the story in Malaysia as well, even when being played the radio transmission which is included in this video.
UltimateWheelman 2 years ago
Yeah that is what Trulli told stewards, but they didn't believe him.
I'm aware of what was said over the radio, but you don't have to be a Mclaren fan to realize this was something of a stitch up, the FIA discovered Mclarens telemetry days after the race, but why couldn't they find Toyaota's telemetry? And why did Charlie Whiting ignore 6 requests from Mclaren asking for clarification? That's bizarre.
The 'yellow flag' no passing rule means exactly that, Hamilton did nothing wrong on track.
bmk139 2 years ago
@bmk139 On track, Lewis did nothing wrong. He did what his team told him to do. I agree. But it's what happened off track, with the stewards, that made this whole mess. If McLaren had told the truth, then the stewards would not have penalized Trulli, and Hamilton would've been 4th. Yes, passing under waved yellows is illegal, but what did you expect Jarno to do when Lewis just suddenly slows down and stays to the right of the track (which later turned out to be Lewis trying to let him past)?
UltimateWheelman 2 years ago
That's the point I was making though, if Hamilton had done nothing, Trulli would have been penalized for overtaking under yellows. If you listen to Trulli's engine as he passes Lewis, you can hear him noticeably accelerating, but the lack of Toyota's telemetry means that Mclaren couldn't argue that point. I agree that the whole thing was bullshit and should never have happened, but had it been another driver in another team, we both know the driver wouldn't have been vilified the way Lewis was.
bmk139 2 years ago
Its wasnt Hamilton's fault he was panicking he didnt no wot 2 do. i bet if it was his choice he would have kept dat position
YoungerJ247 2 years ago 2
Want it Hamiltons fault when he LIED in the hearing after the race that he didnt let Trulli past?! (that resulted in that Trulli got 25s penalty)
Tibberia 2 years ago
Does anyone know, what music is playing in the Back?
DKPicturesTM 2 years ago
Lewis did what he was told. You cant blame him for the incident. Lets face it, he would have got the boot from mclaren if he dropped them in it. With the amount of money he is on, I would have shut my mouth aswell to be fair.
IIIExTiNcTIII 2 years ago
how can anyone possibly justify hamilton being in the right. ffs if he went out on a massacre and killed hundreds of people, people would still blame someone else. its pathetic
DrFeelGood93 2 years ago
does anyone know the theme music thats being used in this vid?
jizzobizzo 2 years ago
They told Lewis what to do...how the fuck could you blame him?
You guys are so gay on here its rediculous
LewisSoTranscendent 2 years ago
hamilton sucks.
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
your mother sucks
he's a great driver
pascalAMG 2 years ago 2
Die cocksucker
If i'd met hamilton I would say it to his face
he fking sucks
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
fuck you little piece of shit
you dont understand the F1
pascalAMG 2 years ago
Burn in hell you motherfucking cócksucker.
schwuchtel idiot.
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
your mama
fucking gay noob
pascalAMG 2 years ago
i agree with pascalAMG, you dont know nothing about formula one, no driver is shit in f1, they are all good, its just that the cars plays a role in how well they do, like for example nakajima is definetly not as good as rosberg but twice nakajima out qualified him so no one is a shit f1 driver, mabye you ought to frive a f1 car and see how hard it is to drive, forget about stalling the car, you probably wouldnt even be able to get in the car
beyblader10171 2 years ago
Did I say I was better than Hamilton, or Roseberg or any of them???
And u would be able to drive an F1 car huh?
I said Hamilton sucks, I dont like him. It's my opinion.
I started watching F1 in the 80s.
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
no but ur making it sound as if its easy to drive an f1 car, because of the way ur saying hamilton is shit. you dont understand how hard f1 cars are to drive, i may never experience an f1 car but one thing i know is how sophisticated they are and the g forces that drivers can withstand
and anyway how is hamilton shit if he won a world championship, i guess its just a bit of jealously
beyblader10171 2 years ago
GangstaDogg, fuck you arsehole! If you was near Hamilton, you wouldn't do fuck all, chicken shit mother fucker!
Had0kenUK 2 years ago
what is ur fucking problem? he doesnt suck, hes won almost every championship hes done ffs..
makvarochapollo 2 years ago
Sure. In 2009 he won like 3.
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
makvarochapollo 2 years ago
Where's 1998? 2001 and 2002?
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
In 2008 he only won because he had the best car in the field. He had advantage.
2009 explains it all. In the first races Brawns had the best cars. Hamilton was nowhere, he wrecked his car many times, even in monaco.
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
well, usually there is an advantage to have a good car. but the ferraris wasn't worse than the mclaren. kovalainen was 7th in the championship (with the best car?), kimi and massa was 2nd and 3rd. Giving ferrari more points in the team championship. and brawn started developing their 2009 car more than 2 years ago, while mclaren had to start after the 2008 season. and btw, 1998 he was like 14 years old so no matter what he came it doesnt matter. 2002 he was p3 in british FR as rookie. 2001 i dno
makvarochapollo 2 years ago 2
is that enough information for you to accept that hes a fucking good driver? i know alot of people who have been working with him, and ppl that have seen him growing up, saying that its a natural born talent over anything else..
makvarochapollo 2 years ago 3
He is better than Kovalainen, but he'll never be as good as M.Schumacher.
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
I bet he can. And if u say that Hamilton won only because of his car, then look at Schumacher? Formula 1 has been extremely competetive and even the 3 seasons Hamilton has driven. Look at the seasons when the Ferraris and McLarens was lapping the minardis after 10 laps. I REALLY dont say that SChumi is bad but i say that he had the best car almost all the time he drove, and he faught against a way less more competetive field. Häkkinen/Senna are the true legends, not Schumacher. Hamilton will be
makvarochapollo 2 years ago
Hakkinen and Senna were both amazing drivers. If Senna wouldn't die I bet he'd won more championships than Schumacher.
And Hakkinen had a terrible crash in Adelaide 95'. Maybe he would win more than 2 championships if he wouldn't crash. But you've got to admit that Schumacher currently is the Legend.
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
The problem with that is that Hakkinen was thought by many to have gotten better after the crash, so maybe if Hakkinen had not crashed then he wouldn't have won two titles. Senna may have won two more titles, but who knows. There was no way Senna was going to beat a Schumacher in his prime in a car that was not as good as Schumi's.
UltimateWheelman 2 years ago
They don't call Schumacher "The Rain" Master and 'The Overtake hero" for nothing.
GangstaDogg21 2 years ago
YES YES YES well said mate
cripsdogg1990 2 years ago
come on man most of F1 drivers have been champions in most of these series and that's why they r in formula 1. it's a matter of how lucky u r to get in to a top team. look at sebastian Bourdais, he's a 4 time champ car champion n he ended up in torro rosso!
zabraoota 2 years ago
its not about how lucky you are.. some ppl pay alot of money to get into good teams but they usually end up in GP2 last in the field. ppl always think its about the team.. u have to prove that u are really fast, then i mean REALLY fast, then some of the top teams will contact u and they help u through ur career. look in formula 3 euroseries, theres 3 drivers in the ART team who havent scored a single point, and ART is the team who has won for 3 seasons in a row.
makvarochapollo 2 years ago
i dont like it when hamilton fan boys come on here and protest that hamilton did nothing wrong.
he lied. and he deserved his penalty. but some people cant see that even if they watch video's like this.
even James Allen, Who We All Know Bummed Hamilton Daily, Agreed That Hamilton Should Not Have LIED
Bottom Line:Hamilton Lied. Got A Penalty That He Deserved. End Of
DrFeelGood93 2 years ago
yes he lied, but on track he did nothing wrong, he did as his team told him just as any driver would have done. and he lied because his team told him to lie, if he doesnt do as they say he could lose his drive, he if given the choice i dont think would have lied, why would Ryan get suspended ... because he told lewis to lie
Harber3 2 years ago
You dont have to be a Hamilton fanboy to realise that the whole thing was bullshit and smacked of a stitch up.
Fuji07-Massa was given a drive thru for spinning off under waved yellows then retaking his position behind the safety car,but obviously the radio now trumps FIA regs. Stewards didnt believe Trullis account @ melbourne, so he lied aswell? And how strange that Toyotas telemetry couldnt be found.
At monaco, Schumy lied to stewards but he was never vilified for it the way Hamilton was.
icetonky 2 years ago
liar
Fuckdencio 2 years ago
F1 management has always had a thing for lewis and mclaren... I don't understand though. They were confused. Lewis let trulli by anyway >:| why is he disqualified?
jraybay 2 years ago
i agree with you!!!
kingpetok90 2 years ago
They lied. They said they didnt let Trulli by, but pit radio suggests otherwise. Toyota appealed Trulli's disqualification, and found evidence suggesting McLaren lied. So he was disqualified.
If they didnt lie, they would have had at least 4th place. They could have been given 3rd even.
But no, they lied. And lewis has no excuse. He lied off his own back, you cant say he was doing what the team says; he didnt in 2007 when he didnt let Alonso through, when he let lewis through previously.
alucardv2 2 years ago
The f*cking visuals suggest otherwise. Is it necessary to take radio transmissions to prove this? It's stupid. With your own eyes you can see hamilton let trulli by. Whats the big conspiracy here? That somebody told lewis to let trulli by and he did so, then mclaren probably unknowingly lied? I don't understand the f.i.a sometimes.
07? that's history! Fernando and Mclaren didn't get along bottom line. also, did alonso let lewis into his pit on time? or did he sit there for a good 15 seconds?
jraybay 2 years ago
i dont think you understand the situation lol.
iceshiel 2 years ago
Please clear it up for me.
jraybay 2 years ago
they did let truli past but the said that truli went past him without hamilton letting him and they were under the safety car. if that was true trulli should have been penalized but they let him past.
Jiminibobster 2 years ago
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jraybay 2 years ago
In the minute 1:54 appear NIRA JUANCO the spanish presenter of la sexta!
juanvieselmejor 2 years ago
F1 management is a piece of shit in general. Not just b/c of this incident.
rdbextreme 2 years ago 5
This whole situation was a mess. If you'd ask me, F1 really got off to a horrible start, due to F1 Management interventions etc. I think F1 is hurting itself by over regulating. I'm probably going to stop watching every race.
rdbextreme 2 years ago
what is the overregulation here?
They lied to the stewards and in a big way!!! in what non-backyard sport lies of that caliber are not punished?
discretoboy 2 years ago
trulli went wide in a turn. Lewis hamilton came behind trulli and passed him. since it's not allowed to pass when safety car is out, hamilton gave trulli his position back. That is how i see this thing after i did a bit research. Yea i heard the team radio things. As far as i see here it all went by the book. its not allowed to overtake when safety car is out and that is what hamilton fixed after he passed trulli when trulli went wide.
darkeightball 2 years ago
Trulli was off track, in that case you are allowed to pass.
discretoboy 2 years ago
yeah thats true, coz whats hamilton supposed to do, back up the pack whilst trulli comes back on the racing line lol
beyblader10171 2 years ago
Trulli shouldn't have gone wide, it all started with him -_-
TheFrozenMage 2 years ago
she shouldn't have gone wide for his own sake... not for mclaren and hamilton sake. Drivers make mistake.
discretoboy 2 years ago
dude, they all make mistakes, and if Hamilton wasn't a fucking liar it wouldn't have turned out such a mediacircus. I'm SO happy they found out mclaren lied. Cos they just took Trulli's p3 from him. Hamilton sucks.
AnonYmous17 2 years ago
I think lewis and mclaren were confused. and this is such a little incident I don't think lewis remembers half the things he says on the radio during that race. Lewis hamilton doesn't suck you idiot. He's worked hard his whole life to get where he is now. are you an f1 pilot?
jraybay 2 years ago
yeah i think you right!!!
kingpetok90 2 years ago
Dude, he worked hard his whole life, fine, but he's lied. He didn't sound like in the middle of super concentration, barely able to talk to the team, no he sound clear and calm when he LIED and SCREWED Trulli over while lying. I'm not an F1 pilot, Trulli is. He was going for a well-deserved 3rd place, and your saint lewis lied and took his 3rd place from him. How dya think it makes Trulli feel? hamilton is just upset cos he's not driving at the front anymore so he steals other people's podiums.
AnonYmous17 2 years ago
Why do you keep harping on " he screwed trulli over" even though Trulli went off the fucking track through his own fault and lewis passed him But **let him by again**, following the rules. And if you watched lewis hamiltons press conference a race later you would see that he was told to lie for the team. But At the press conference he came clean you idiot. Dave ryan knew what the implications were so he asked lewis to lie, get it right.
and what an asinine remark, you joke.
jraybay 2 years ago
The McLaren team did clearly lie to the stewards regarding this incident, I won't deny that. However, in some ways I feel that Hamilton was put into an unfair position here, because he ended up taking the blame for McLaren's mistake. Even though he would have realised that his team was trying to get themselves out of the hole that they'd dug for themselves, Lewis could only have gone along with McLaren's story, after all, he is their driver. If he hadn't, he would have probably been sacked too.
MintAs94 2 years ago 6
no disrespect to jarno trulli coz i think hes a gr8 driver , but he shouldnt have ran wide in the first place , under safety car conditions as well, if he didnt ran wide, then none of this would have happened
beyblader10171 2 years ago
he wasn't disqualified for overtaking trulli he was disqualified for letting pass when he should have kep position, you can take a car under the safety car if he has run offtrack, the reason it didn't happen to coulthard in melbourne 02 is because the regulations change
laidinspain 2 years ago
so mclaren say that trulli overtake hamilton on purpose, thats the lie?
raikkonenkmi 2 years ago
Pretty much yes, McLaren said that Hamilton didn't let Trulli through and that Trulli overtook Hamilton without Hamilton cooperating. So Trulli was punished, until the pit-radio recordings were discovered.
booftF1 2 years ago
if so, now that`s a problem
raikkonenkmi 2 years ago
ye cos trulli would of have a penalty for overtaking under the safety car
Rjtaylor4 2 years ago
he wasnt disqualifed so letting trulli pass he got disqualified for lettin trulli past then deny he let him through on purpose , cos if he didnt let him on purpose trulli wud hav the penalty but hamilton moved out his way and the stewards heard this on the team radio
Rjtaylor4 2 years ago
he got disqualified for letting trulli pass him, then he lied to the race stewards saying trulli overtook him on purpose under the safety car, instead of saying he let him pass because he overtook him after trulli had run off the track, trulli would not have gotten a penalty because it would have been deamed suitable circumstance to overtake, it was after the stewards asked for the team radio that mcclaren were busted, look up your FIA regulations douche bag
laidinspain 2 years ago
so pretty much what i said in my comment you prick
Rjtaylor4 2 years ago
i'm sorry maybe if you could type like a normal person and not use all your gangster abbrieviation shit i might be able to understand you, furthermore i stated everything correctly in my first comment hmmmkay
laidinspain 2 years ago
Ganster abbrieviation ur a funny fucker its called saving time nearly everyone tht leaves comments on youtube write like it ,, and i dnt care what u stated in ur first comment cos i was answering some 1's question ,, So suck my balls u prick
Rjtaylor4 2 years ago
1. No he didn't get disqualified for letting trulli pass him.
2. The stewards already had the radio conversations from day one, and not later, as u are suggesting here.
weibowil 2 years ago
Sunday (Melbourne) :
1. Trulli got demoted after lewis claimed Mclaren did not instruct him to let trulli pass
2. it conflicted with what was heard over the radio, (news reports said ''Lewis insisted he was not told to move over.. despite what the radio conversations suggested'').
Wednesday (Sepang):
3. lewis got disqualified (for providing misleading information) after Charlie Whiting's repeated questioning couldn't bring about the desired answers
weibowil 2 years ago
What's the song????
Dooom41k 2 years ago
I disliked Hamilton in F1 before this (I still respected the man) but ANY ounce of respect went out the window after I heard about this.
Hamilton is in the wrong here as much as any of the McLaren team..he went to the Stewards knowing full well he was lieing.Stop trying to defend him.
No honour for himself or Toyota whatsoever.
richie1438 2 years ago 4
there was a rumor that mclaren told to to lewis to say no
d0ubl3sh0t 2 years ago
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MintAs94 2 years ago
whats the soundtrack for the onboard part?
ORiON0924 2 years ago 2