This was fun, and I'd love to see more religious debates in rap battle form, but it does seem like the religious guy gets the last word every time, and with terrible strawmen like "just happened by chance."
But I do love the format, and I'd love to see a collaboration between an atheist and a theist on this, so that the arguments sound as good as the rhymes.
@SimplyByDavid On the other hand it has brought alot peace to. Sure it has taken more than it has saved... But religion does bring hope to certain people; having faith in something is a reason to live. Ofcourse Religion started out as a excuse for war making the pope a general who proclaimed war, yet nations could live along side for a certain amount of time because of their religion. Is it realistic? No, not at all, it never will be, but believing in something does bring a certain unity.
God damn life is hard just live it all our questions will be answered in the end anyway so who gives a fuck if god exists just prey and have faith because can it hurt you in any way?
@tree6541 FUCK YOU, you hypocrite asshole. You're allowed to spew your athiest shit whenever and wherever you want, but when someone starts talking about God, then they're being too open with their ideology? Once again sir, FUCK YOU!
@jskaggsrulez now u look im not gonna take dis shit from u. u dnt know who da fuck ur talkin too. besides der is no proof god exists. science is wat has gotten us so far in life not god. so fuck u
@tree6541 Ok, if you talk the same way you type, then I'm gonna need to say this real slow:You can kiss my Christian ass you FUCKIN' ATHIEST, BITCH!' I'm not gonna get into a religous debate with a fuckin' retard like you on the internet. So I'll leave you with one big "FUCK YOU"!
@jskaggsrulez wat eva bitch. no one talks proper on the internet so shut the fuck up. u dnt know who ur talkin to. beside i go to lane tech high school. its the top 5 schools in the u.s so i know im smart. so u can go to hell bitch.
@tree6541 You know what's funny? Your "smart" ass just said "Go to Hell" even though your a FUCKIN' ATHIEST! How about you bring your own retarded beliefs into the equation before you sell out, prick.
@tree6541 Yeah, and you should get to know it better sense that's where you'll be getting butt-fucked by Hitler after die of auto-erotic exfixiation you fucking faggot-ass bitch.
we invented religions .. religions mutate in time -- this is what happened -- i remember the dark ages when everyone believes that the earth was flat ..and the minority said that earth was round ... now we as atheists are the minorities and we will prove u wrong ..
@AdemaLevel true, Stalin was an athiest (Hitler was a very devout christian, but thats beside the point), however they never did what they did in the name of athiesm, which is what i believe Alpha's point was. That said, and while i agree that those men were evil, do you not believe that there are religious "monsters" out there. for example the catholic preists that raped and abused young children?
@vampiresbane stalin killed religious people in the name of atheism calling them ''brainwashed peasants'' he closed downchurches and mosques andmurdered anyone trying to open any type of religious house. while hitler was an atheist but sympathetic to christians he was not devout, even his marriage was not conducted religiously and thinking the jews of the past and today are unhuman is another source, jesus was jewish, i would understand if he only hated the ones of his time.
@AdemaLevel Stalin did what he did in the name of totalitarianism. To say otherwise is to ignore history. Hitler's public and private statements regarding God suggests that he was a theist, but it doesn't matter. Hitler, like Stalin, did what he did b/c of political and racial ideology. There's nothing in atheism that says you should kill people or shut down churches. I'm against everything Stalin stood for and did. Is he more of an atheist than I am? Of course not. It's not a belief system.
@Devega33 Hitler was an atheist, but did not HATE on religion, get over yourself not all atheists hate on religion, he was not religious, he barely believed in a diety anyway.
He did not oppose religion because alot of germans were religious and he needed support.
In the long run wether ur religious or atheist, hate still exists and bad thing happen.
Atheist terrorists do exist, just not media publicized you can go check somewhere for attempts to blow up churches and mosques
@Devega33 Hey hey, im not the idiot here, just cause he tried to wipe out jews for killing jesus u joking? Jesus was a jew himself idiot.
He thought jews were an inferior race dip shit, like the blacks, arabs, russians, indians, gypsies.. etc
Use ur head and take history, he killed more races than jews, just more of the jews BECAUSE jews were the largest NON EUROPEAN minority in EUROPE. and he blamed them because they were in high places with money
@AdemaLevel ok first of all, you have no idea that he was saying the name of god to do wicked things so don't tell me he's an atheist you fuckin' loonatic, get your facts right! BTW HE IS A FUCKIN' ROMAN CATHOLIC YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!! and fuck you for telling me i haven't studied history cos i have!
@Devega33 Thought what LOOOOL, thought so that you're a dip shit, he's roman catholic lmao, you're just an atheist who cannot take the responsibility of having bad people in yoru group, get over yourself and be a man
@AdemaLevel i'm sorry, whos denying? is it because you have not know someone who is an atheist or you're just trying to make us rare to see and finger pointing at the bad ones in your delusional reality so you look and act better than us? i'm sorry, you cannot even be in a good country without us.. you think a country with full of shitty religious people can be good in society? HA! and you guys hates science but you guys keep using computers and search in internet.. idiots.
@Devega33 Are you joking? You picked the wrong fight here, you think in an atheist society everything will be ok? NO, once religion is excluded people will be taking political factions and will go extreme with politics
Human society is like this, ideas get taken to the extreme, right or wrong, its human nature to go over the top.
We got morals, atleast religions have philosophies who teach people to be good, yeh people take it out of hand, but thats human nature, not religion...
@AdemaLevel go over the top? idiot, go take a hike and lets see if religions aren't the problem on Earth! Ofcourse, its human nature to choose to do right and wrong but at least its individual and not a religious groups just to prove they are the dominant one like.. so what happened to iraq and america anyway? andreligion have philisophies who teach people to be good? no, its not teaching anybody, its teaching you to be scared of imaginary bully above the sky and behave like a dog.
@Devega33 Religion hates science? FOR FUCKS SAKE, take fucking history, religion doesnt hate science, Religion itself promoted science, maybe you should go check on ur history books, What triggered the Renaissance, it was ideas from religious arab scholars of the ISLAMIC empire, who were religious people driven by science and religion hand in hand. Alghazli, Ash'ari, al-Juwayni, Avicenna, these people we owe our scientific theories and knowledge to, not to mention Isaac Newton aswell
@AdemaLevel wtf you talking about, huh? ofcourse science started in religion, which people tend to prove and disprove God's existence! so fuck you for talking like you know shit!
I've started a series of videos, "krishna unconsciousness," exposing the krisha religion for what it really is. Ppl think krishnas are benign and tolerant. In fact they are among the most intolerant of all religions. They hate atheists and scientists to the point of psychosis. They are anti-science to the extreme of calling scientists demons. Check out my first in the series. It is about what they call us - "The society of hogs, dogs, camels and asses!" See it here watch?v=BpBDjhZMfgM
First realize your a sinner...Believe in your heart God raised Jesus Christ from the dead, confess him as Lord, ask him to forgive your sins (repent of them), wash you in his blood, and make you his child. Read and obey the Gospel, it has the power to save your soul.
@HedeenJeff First of all, by you calling us a sinner makes us athiest sick, because theres no such thing as sinners in our persepective, we have a mind of our own and we dont follow your philosophy, because it doesnt make sense to us. Unlike you we are not brainwashed like sheep. So dont tell us what you want us to do and live the life you want to, and we do the same like the life we want to and work together instead of brainwashing everyone.
NOT TRUE. From Socrates to Newton and even Alfred Einstein, Nicholas Copernicus, Michael Faraday etc.. they all believed in God. I am sure I will get another insulting, intolerant answer full of hate from TheStrangeRanger. And he says Hare Krishnas are full of hate!!?? I say before we critisize something we know nothing about, better take a good loock at the man in the mirror. Krishna Loves every living being.
@Soheilom You're a typical uneducated krishna spouting lies as facts. Socrates believed in personal intuition. He told ppl to give up their gods and to look to their intuition. Einstein didn't believe.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated." - einstein
But what would you expect from someone who thinks the moon is further away than the sun. You do a good enough job of insulting yourself with that brand of ignorance.
@TheStrangeRanger in The Apology, Socrates says “I am really one given to you by God” (437) Therefore he believed in God. you dont have to be so smart to figure that out ;)
@Soheilom Clearly you're not educated. Scholars know that Socrates was well known for his rejection of religion and that the word god in your quote was not a literal translation but an act of provication. If you had actually read The Apology instead of quote mining you would know that.
why des everyone give credit to God when something wierd happens. The suns GRAVITY pulled in the planets and placed them that way because oof the gravitaional fields, not cuz of god.
And who created the Sun? or its gravity? There is nothing in this world that has not been created by someone. For example a car, a book, a house, a computer, a pencil etc. all these things have been created by someone. So the Logical conclusion is that the SUN and its Gravity which are even much more complex must have been created by someone.
how is that logical at all? how can you compare the sun to a pencil? just because there are many man-made things, doesnt mean everything HAS to be created by someone. Gravity is related to your size and mass(bigger you are, greater your force of attraction). And the sun is an enormous ball of burning gases. everything can be explained, so you dont need to resort to god if you dont understand something, especially since the idea of god is one of mans creations
Exactly. Nature is much more complex than man made things therefore you expect me to believe that something as complex and wonderful as Gravity or the Sun where just created by chance? how can it be that something so complex can be created by chance, but something so simple like a car for example must be created by someone...?? or do you believe that if we put all the parts of a car inside in a big bucket and shake it someday a car would come out..?? your logic is not logical..
the last part is just putting words in my mouth. objects in nature being more complex just means that nothing we have created can compare. i could even go as far as to say that because it is so complex proves it couldnt be created by someone. We can build cars cuz they are simple. Like i said, just because u dont understand something or it seems unbelievable doesnt mean it cant be explained.
but you are the one that cannot explain it. I am saying that these complex things are created by a far more intelligent being than us insignificant humans, but you seem to believe that there is nobody more intelligent then us "super" humans therefore if something is too complex for us to create then nobody can create it. Ok, so we are talking about EGO now and not logic. Yes its hard to admit that there is somebody more powerful and intelligent than us "super" humans.
therefore if something is too complex for us to create then it proves that it couldnt be created by someone. This in the Vedas is called "frog philosophy" A frog that was very proud of its pond was talking to a Bird about how big his pond was, the Bird replied that there was an ocean much bigger than his pond, and the frog kept asking the Bird about the size of the ocean compared to his pond....
the Bird told the frog that the ocean was sooo much bigger than his insignificant pond that it couldnt even be compared. So the frog refused to believe of the existence of such ocean because he couldnt compare it to the size of his pond which he thought was so big. There fore I say the same thing to you "just because u dont understand something or it seems unbelievable doesnt mean it cant be explained." You have faith in some scientists Theories (not facts) and I have faith in the Ancient Vedas.
at first you said "man-made" so i assumed we were comparing nature and man made stuff(im not that egotistical). Neither of us know for sure whether there is a being that created everything in the universe. Since there is no proof on either, this argument is incomplete. i like the example though. and i dont know what the Ancient Vedas are...
Ancient Vedas are books written more than 5000 years ago in India. They cover everything in life; politics, spirituality, arquitecture, medicine, astronomy, history etc. There are many many books of course, but I am reading the Srimad Bhagavatam, which is about 14 books of about 700-900 pages each or more, so I still have a lot to read. However, the knowledge in there is so vast that it just blew my mind and I thought this could not be written by a normal human being.
Yes, its true that we cannot prove with our imperfect senses whether someone created the Universe or not. However, we can use our intelligence and come to a conclusion. And whether this conclusion is YES or NO, it is based on a mix of intelligence and faith. Some have faith on scientific theories, others on the Knowledge of the Vedas, others on CNN etc. ; )
@Soheilom I don't like the word faith when it comes to not believing in a god. faith is a word that i personally associate with organised religion. i dont think a scientist has to have faith in something, but rather a drive to find a conclusion. people who rely on the idea that they are going to go to heaven AFTER THEY DIE, those people are the ones who need to have faith. because death isn't something a religious person works towards. its the fear of death they try and drown out with prayer.
@Soheilom i personally believe in other life forms present in our universe. i really do. alien life is absolutely a great theory. and a god of any kind would be considered alien life. i just do not believe that there is a god out there. a GOD. a real true to the word god. are there more intelligent beings out there? yes? maybe. but you can't prove it. and you can't prove that an intelligent alien lifeform created our known universe or anything in it. in all probability an alien didn't make us.
@Soheilom in all probability life happened by chance. even if there is some sort of... heiarchy or food chain of sorts in the universe and ONE entity is at the top of it... that god-like lifeform would have to be the end result of a long chain of evolution. and ... if it happens to be the oldest and first lifeform in our universe then its life happened by chance. point is, life came from somewhere. even the life of the first, oldest, and most powerful beings (even a god) had to start somewhere.
Ok. First of all if God came from somewhere he wouldn´t be God, the definition of God is the all powerful supreme soul from which everything emanates, if he came from somewhere then he would not fit the definition. OF course with your current material and imperfect senses you cannot prove the existence or non existence of God. But the same way you believe in other life forms in outer space (which I agree on) I believe in the existence of a Supreme soul from which everything emanates.
As I said it all depend on where you put your faith in. Yes I said "faith" and maybe you dont like the word being used for science, but its a fact that science relies on lots of theories and hipothesis which are not proven, that means they have faith that these theories are true, you cannot deny this. For example, we study the Stars and the Universe and based on observation with our IMPERFECT senses we make some theories of what "could be true" and based on these Theories we make other theories
I am not saying all science is like this but a lot of it is just theories and not absolute truths, therefore it requires some faith. Even Darwin admited that his Theory was imperfect, and now archeologists are finding many flaws with the theory of evolution and some don't believe in it anymore..why? because it was based on faith not on an absolute truth.
In 30 years from now they might laugh at our current scientific theories just like we laugh at people who thought the world was square. I am not saying I can prove the existence of God, but from my own experience and observation, I can come to a intelligent conclusion that he exists, because I have faith, the same way others have faith in the theories of science like the Big Bang for example. Or even Darwin predicted that the fossil record would either prove or falsify his theory.
Darwin realized the difficulty the fossil record (missing links) gave his theory when he said, "Why, if species have descended from other species by fine graduation, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?" Today, top evolutionists know that Darwin's predictions of what the fossil record would reveal have failed.
>science relies on lots of theories and hipothesis
You're an idiot. Sometimes theories become facts. This is the case when evidence is undeniable. Or do you think there are NO facts? There is the theory of gravity and there are the facts of gravity. If you don't understand the difference then I suggest you go back to school.
Yes but here we are NOT talking about Gravity. helloooo!? did you even read it or you just read >science relies on lots of theories and hipothesis. We are talking about the creation of the universe, where is the undeniable evidence here? As you said "sometimes" theories become facts but NOT all the time, so I suggest reading the whole thing before jumping to conclusions and insulting me, the poor "idiot", wow you are really educated? you must still be in school, or pre-school :) Im Over and OUT
You can't even spell hypothesis never mind understanding my reference to gravity. As for my education I happen to have 4 degree, including a Ph.D. You're obviously home-schooled. You're too much of a cretin to bother with.
pues yo tambien te quiero. Zorry for my english, but its not my first language, its my third language actually. you have 4 degree? or degrees? and PhD?! to bad you did not learn any real education, like how to talk to people, without insulting and getting pissed of on youtube. maybe you should leave your books aside and meditate and relax. Mucha suerte mi amigo, la vida es mucho mas que libros y estudios. Alha Akbar, Hare Krishna. Love for All. :)
@stupidfleshmonkies Sure. NP. Right after you tell me your full name, social security number, where you work and your current address. I have a Ph.D in computer science. Is that alright with you?
@TheStrangeRanger damn dude no need to get all uptight about it, you seemed pretty proud of your 4 degrees, i just wanted to know what subjects they were in....
@stupidfleshmonkies Sigh! The only reason I brought up my education is because it was questioned. No other reason. Period! My degrees are in the fields of computer science, mathematics and English but I wouldn't have even brought that up unless soheilom hadn't asked about it. Damn! Talk about exaggeration.
How many years did it take you to come up with such bullshit of a song? THis rap thing that you made fucking sucks no lie. Good try at the editing skills though.
The Goddess Innanna was in the underworld for 3 days & nites before SHE resurrected HERSELF outta there. The whole "bread and wine is my flesh and blood" EVOLVED from the rites of Dionysus (who was the "life" of the vine; hence the use of WINE in the ceremony instead of MILK, which they also could have used...) and Ceres, the Goddess of grain, (you could also look at the Celtic Corn King, too) whose death allowed men to live (eat bread). Again, "Christian" belief EVOLVED from this...
Gnostic Christians [who were the FIRST Christians, btw...] understood that "Jesus" never actually existed; he was a SYMBOL of the "death and rebirth" experience that Gnostic Christians were to go thru to 'die' symbolically to worldly cares and be 'reborn' symbolically to spiritual interests... The myth of "Jesus" being in the grave for 3 days & nites originates with the Goddess Innanna from Babylon, who - several thousand years earlier - died and lay in the underworld for 3 days&nites before
Less than 1/10th the [currently known age] of Goddess worship - which, by the way, is still being practiced by Christians and Hindus alike... Christianity itself is a homogenized conglomeration that was plagiarized from earlier, so-called 'pagan' or 'heathen' Greco-Roman religions, as well as older religions. The main 'model' for "Jesus" was probably Dionysus, whose worship existed many hundreds of years before "Jesus" was a gleam in a fanatic's eye... Gnostic Christianity understood that....
Gradual trial-and-error development of human technology wouldn't exist. We'd instantly create the perfect car, computer, tool, house, etc. The most hilarious blind spot of Creationists is that RELIGION itself has EVOLVED!!!! Down thru the ages - the oldest religion on earth IS animism, still practiced by some Australian Aborigines. Then there's Goddess worship, over 35,000 years old. The 'bible' is a Johnny-come-lately Middle Eastern religion that's barely 3,500 years old - less than 1/10th
The BIG problem with the illustration of Isaac Newton's model is that ALL HUMAN DEVICES have gone thru an EVOLUTIONARY process. Humanity did not 'create' a full-blown modern computer right off the bat; it took thousands of years (the early Greeks produced the first rough computer...) of trial and error, natural selection and gradual advances to reach the level of technology we have today. If 'Creationism' were an actual basis for the universe, there would be no need for gradual trial-and-error
It was pretty decent until you ended it with an obvious ignorance of the most basic principles of cosmology. Pick up a book on astronomy and how solar systems form and you will have to redo the ending of this rap.
i wish some day you theists will learn how to READ!!!
the solar system is not the same as the model since the model doesn't follow any scientific law that create it at this form but the cosmos does
each object has gravity and in space where there is no resistance dust get pulled to other dust making a big ball of dust which then grows to be a star which then gets pulled to a bigger star (sun) forming a solar system
There is no such thing as Atheism...it's just a little story to keep egocentric heads from thinking they have anything bigger than themselves to be accountable to
...as Ludvig Wittgenstein put it when he dumbfounded the atheists with one paragraph...
"The solution of the riddle of life and space and time lies outside space and time. Physical science gives you things inside space and time, in principal you cannot explain in physical terms where the universe came from. The cause of universe - must be outside the universe and must be a non physical entity outside space and time - that is the only logically consistent explanation there is."
don't be moronic. a child knows something can't come from nothing. the created emanates from the eternal. envy god, whatever but don't be mad to say all this came from nothing.
Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God.
Heywood Broun
God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him. The reason why many people do not believe in God is not so much that it is intellectually impossible to believe in God, but because belief in God forces that thoughtful person to face the fact that he is accountable to such a God.
Robert A. Laidlaw
Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of God.
Matter has no thought. emotion, consciousness or will.
You (soul) is where all those come from. You're merely in a body to exist on this material realm of selfishness.
Most religious people are hedonists anyway but a true spirtual person will try to feed themselves (soul) with God not their bodies with matter, touching matter, rubbing matter (sex) consuming tonnes of bad matter (food/alcohol/drugs).
You look out for the birdcage and forget the bird. The bird's food is that skydaddy.
How can atheism close the mind? It has no dogma.
timelessoneak 2 weeks ago
my best friend is athiest... and i'm saved!!! what other "lies" u gotta tell me?
Deronthe3rd 4 months ago
I'm an atheist and my best friend is a devout catholic. I smell sitcom!
wolf92193 4 months ago
I like this, although the argument got one sided at the end...
Geokeish 5 months ago
This was fun, and I'd love to see more religious debates in rap battle form, but it does seem like the religious guy gets the last word every time, and with terrible strawmen like "just happened by chance."
But I do love the format, and I'd love to see a collaboration between an atheist and a theist on this, so that the arguments sound as good as the rhymes.
SanityInAnarchy 5 months ago
I think some people misunderstand atheism. If your not heads, your tails.
retrogamerist 6 months ago
this is nice
lioncub2001 6 months ago
That was very creative and rhymes were spectacular. Great job.
carlosrockapx 7 months ago
@GothicWiccan13 no pain killers i had a sergury on my ACL so they gave me pain killers i cant remember what they were called
DisturbedMurf 7 months ago
Religion sucks! Religion brings so much doubt...
SimplyByDavid 7 months ago
@SimplyByDavid On the other hand it has brought alot peace to. Sure it has taken more than it has saved... But religion does bring hope to certain people; having faith in something is a reason to live. Ofcourse Religion started out as a excuse for war making the pope a general who proclaimed war, yet nations could live along side for a certain amount of time because of their religion. Is it realistic? No, not at all, it never will be, but believing in something does bring a certain unity.
TheSparringPanther 5 months ago
if you are an atheism you are smart and not some stupid fuck if your a christan. fuck you
DisturbedMurf 8 months ago
@DisturbedMurf Obviously, you aren't an "atheism."
UchihaKito 7 months ago
@UchihaKito i was high when i wrote that
DisturbedMurf 7 months ago
@DisturbedMurf Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that being high was an excuse for being a stupid fuck. I apologize.
UchihaKito 7 months ago
@UchihaKito it is dude when ur high... obviously u never been high... you act really stupid
DisturbedMurf 7 months ago
God damn life is hard just live it all our questions will be answered in the end anyway so who gives a fuck if god exists just prey and have faith because can it hurt you in any way?
poblo234 8 months ago
@poblo234 Uh... yeah. In lots of ways.
MrMultiPat 8 months ago
im with the atheist. god isnt real!
tree6541 8 months ago
@tree6541 FUCK YOU, you hypocrite asshole. You're allowed to spew your athiest shit whenever and wherever you want, but when someone starts talking about God, then they're being too open with their ideology? Once again sir, FUCK YOU!
jskaggsrulez 8 months ago
@jskaggsrulez now u look im not gonna take dis shit from u. u dnt know who da fuck ur talkin too. besides der is no proof god exists. science is wat has gotten us so far in life not god. so fuck u
tree6541 8 months ago
@tree6541 Ok, if you talk the same way you type, then I'm gonna need to say this real slow:You can kiss my Christian ass you FUCKIN' ATHIEST, BITCH!' I'm not gonna get into a religous debate with a fuckin' retard like you on the internet. So I'll leave you with one big "FUCK YOU"!
jskaggsrulez 8 months ago
@jskaggsrulez wat eva bitch. no one talks proper on the internet so shut the fuck up. u dnt know who ur talkin to. beside i go to lane tech high school. its the top 5 schools in the u.s so i know im smart. so u can go to hell bitch.
tree6541 8 months ago
@tree6541 You know what's funny? Your "smart" ass just said "Go to Hell" even though your a FUCKIN' ATHIEST! How about you bring your own retarded beliefs into the equation before you sell out, prick.
jskaggsrulez 8 months ago
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@jskaggsrulez it was ment as an insault you stupid fuck
DisturbedMurf 8 months ago
@tree6541 yea i said go to hell. isnt dat wat u believe in dumb ass?
tree6541 8 months ago
@tree6541 Yeah, and you should get to know it better sense that's where you'll be getting butt-fucked by Hitler after die of auto-erotic exfixiation you fucking faggot-ass bitch.
jskaggsrulez 8 months ago
we invented religions .. religions mutate in time -- this is what happened -- i remember the dark ages when everyone believes that the earth was flat ..and the minority said that earth was round ... now we as atheists are the minorities and we will prove u wrong ..
Atheist961 9 months ago
@Atheist961 I'm an atheist too, but at least I'm not absolutely fucking retarded enough to think we invented religions. look up anunnaki.
WritingBlind 5 months ago
@WritingBlind maybe aliens invented religions ..came here a long time ago
Atheist961 5 months ago
HAHA!! sick..
Lokoboy84 9 months ago
this is actually pretty good haha.
Haseeebo 10 months ago
do not give a chance for atheists to play with your minds
saramelad 11 months ago
It really sucks, everything about it is bad but the lyrics... Can barely even hear the rapper because you have the damn instruments so loud!
eakins103 1 year ago
fuck u and fuck ur gays ass rap im a 13 year old boy who just beat ur ass!!!
502ramirez 1 year ago
<<liked it
ANCESTERSMEMORIES 1 year ago
See its funny, there are no atheist terrorists.
AlphaNorcalli 1 year ago
@AlphaNorcalli there are atheist monsterslike hitler and stalin ;)
AdemaLevel 1 year ago
@AdemaLevel true, Stalin was an athiest (Hitler was a very devout christian, but thats beside the point), however they never did what they did in the name of athiesm, which is what i believe Alpha's point was. That said, and while i agree that those men were evil, do you not believe that there are religious "monsters" out there. for example the catholic preists that raped and abused young children?
vampiresbane 1 year ago
@vampiresbane stalin killed religious people in the name of atheism calling them ''brainwashed peasants'' he closed downchurches and mosques andmurdered anyone trying to open any type of religious house. while hitler was an atheist but sympathetic to christians he was not devout, even his marriage was not conducted religiously and thinking the jews of the past and today are unhuman is another source, jesus was jewish, i would understand if he only hated the ones of his time.
AdemaLevel 1 year ago
@AdemaLevel Stalin did what he did in the name of totalitarianism. To say otherwise is to ignore history. Hitler's public and private statements regarding God suggests that he was a theist, but it doesn't matter. Hitler, like Stalin, did what he did b/c of political and racial ideology. There's nothing in atheism that says you should kill people or shut down churches. I'm against everything Stalin stood for and did. Is he more of an atheist than I am? Of course not. It's not a belief system.
reasonformirrors 1 year ago
@AdemaLevel woah, you telling me hitler is an atheist? are you fucking dumb?
Devega33 10 months ago
@Devega33 Hitler was an atheist, but did not HATE on religion, get over yourself not all atheists hate on religion, he was not religious, he barely believed in a diety anyway.
He did not oppose religion because alot of germans were religious and he needed support.
In the long run wether ur religious or atheist, hate still exists and bad thing happen.
Atheist terrorists do exist, just not media publicized you can go check somewhere for attempts to blow up churches and mosques
AdemaLevel 10 months ago
@AdemaLevel see it for yourself, idiot! he tried to wiped out jews for killing jesus and please do more research before you talk you fuckin' idiot!
Devega33 10 months ago
@Devega33 Hey hey, im not the idiot here, just cause he tried to wipe out jews for killing jesus u joking? Jesus was a jew himself idiot.
He thought jews were an inferior race dip shit, like the blacks, arabs, russians, indians, gypsies.. etc
Use ur head and take history, he killed more races than jews, just more of the jews BECAUSE jews were the largest NON EUROPEAN minority in EUROPE. and he blamed them because they were in high places with money
AdemaLevel 10 months ago
@AdemaLevel ok first of all, you have no idea that he was saying the name of god to do wicked things so don't tell me he's an atheist you fuckin' loonatic, get your facts right! BTW HE IS A FUCKIN' ROMAN CATHOLIC YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!! and fuck you for telling me i haven't studied history cos i have!
Devega33 10 months ago
@Devega33 fuck you dickhead you need to learn history
AdemaLevel 10 months ago
@AdemaLevel thats what i thought so you mother fuckin' cunt! go fuck yourself before god will and give birth of Jesus Christ, BITCH!!
Devega33 10 months ago
@AdemaLevel thought so motherfucker! i got you cornered! next time, you do more research before you fuckin' blast false accusation to people.. idiot!
Devega33 10 months ago
@Devega33 Thought what LOOOOL, thought so that you're a dip shit, he's roman catholic lmao, you're just an atheist who cannot take the responsibility of having bad people in yoru group, get over yourself and be a man
AdemaLevel 10 months ago
@AdemaLevel i'm sorry, whos denying? is it because you have not know someone who is an atheist or you're just trying to make us rare to see and finger pointing at the bad ones in your delusional reality so you look and act better than us? i'm sorry, you cannot even be in a good country without us.. you think a country with full of shitty religious people can be good in society? HA! and you guys hates science but you guys keep using computers and search in internet.. idiots.
Devega33 10 months ago
@Devega33 Are you joking? You picked the wrong fight here, you think in an atheist society everything will be ok? NO, once religion is excluded people will be taking political factions and will go extreme with politics
Human society is like this, ideas get taken to the extreme, right or wrong, its human nature to go over the top.
We got morals, atleast religions have philosophies who teach people to be good, yeh people take it out of hand, but thats human nature, not religion...
AdemaLevel 10 months ago
@AdemaLevel go over the top? idiot, go take a hike and lets see if religions aren't the problem on Earth! Ofcourse, its human nature to choose to do right and wrong but at least its individual and not a religious groups just to prove they are the dominant one like.. so what happened to iraq and america anyway? andreligion have philisophies who teach people to be good? no, its not teaching anybody, its teaching you to be scared of imaginary bully above the sky and behave like a dog.
Devega33 10 months ago
@Devega33 Religion hates science? FOR FUCKS SAKE, take fucking history, religion doesnt hate science, Religion itself promoted science, maybe you should go check on ur history books, What triggered the Renaissance, it was ideas from religious arab scholars of the ISLAMIC empire, who were religious people driven by science and religion hand in hand. Alghazli, Ash'ari, al-Juwayni, Avicenna, these people we owe our scientific theories and knowledge to, not to mention Isaac Newton aswell
AdemaLevel 10 months ago
@AdemaLevel wtf you talking about, huh? ofcourse science started in religion, which people tend to prove and disprove God's existence! so fuck you for talking like you know shit!
Devega33 10 months ago
I've started a series of videos, "krishna unconsciousness," exposing the krisha religion for what it really is. Ppl think krishnas are benign and tolerant. In fact they are among the most intolerant of all religions. They hate atheists and scientists to the point of psychosis. They are anti-science to the extreme of calling scientists demons. Check out my first in the series. It is about what they call us - "The society of hogs, dogs, camels and asses!" See it here watch?v=BpBDjhZMfgM
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
im atheist, but oh wow that is a really good point
shastadaisy123 1 year ago
First realize your a sinner...Believe in your heart God raised Jesus Christ from the dead, confess him as Lord, ask him to forgive your sins (repent of them), wash you in his blood, and make you his child. Read and obey the Gospel, it has the power to save your soul.
HedeenJeff 1 year ago
@HedeenJeff First of all, by you calling us a sinner makes us athiest sick, because theres no such thing as sinners in our persepective, we have a mind of our own and we dont follow your philosophy, because it doesnt make sense to us. Unlike you we are not brainwashed like sheep. So dont tell us what you want us to do and live the life you want to, and we do the same like the life we want to and work together instead of brainwashing everyone.
spearmaster94 5 months ago
If atheism closes the mind then explain why the vast majority of acclaimed scientists, teachers and erudites are atheists?
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
@TheStrangeRanger
NOT TRUE. From Socrates to Newton and even Alfred Einstein, Nicholas Copernicus, Michael Faraday etc.. they all believed in God. I am sure I will get another insulting, intolerant answer full of hate from TheStrangeRanger. And he says Hare Krishnas are full of hate!!?? I say before we critisize something we know nothing about, better take a good loock at the man in the mirror. Krishna Loves every living being.
Soheilom 1 year ago
@Soheilom You're a typical uneducated krishna spouting lies as facts. Socrates believed in personal intuition. He told ppl to give up their gods and to look to their intuition. Einstein didn't believe.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated." - einstein
But what would you expect from someone who thinks the moon is further away than the sun. You do a good enough job of insulting yourself with that brand of ignorance.
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
@TheStrangeRanger in The Apology, Socrates says “I am really one given to you by God” (437) Therefore he believed in God. you dont have to be so smart to figure that out ;)
Soheilom 1 year ago
@Soheilom Clearly you're not educated. Scholars know that Socrates was well known for his rejection of religion and that the word god in your quote was not a literal translation but an act of provication. If you had actually read The Apology instead of quote mining you would know that.
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
gud one dude
blazienk 1 year ago
why does it always have to be the bible? why not the torah or koran, or whatever book you read
bloodynachos 1 year ago
everyone hates jews and muslims
/thread
AnimePile 1 year ago
How'd I know everyone in the comments would argue??
AllMixedUp312 1 year ago
wtf man.
epshot 1 year ago
You're the most closed-minded of all, since you close your mind to both atheism and theism.
Zomnificent 2 years ago
why des everyone give credit to God when something wierd happens. The suns GRAVITY pulled in the planets and placed them that way because oof the gravitaional fields, not cuz of god.
Hooray for logic =D
xRogueGeassx 2 years ago
@xRogueGeassx
And who created the Sun? or its gravity? There is nothing in this world that has not been created by someone. For example a car, a book, a house, a computer, a pencil etc. all these things have been created by someone. So the Logical conclusion is that the SUN and its Gravity which are even much more complex must have been created by someone.
Hooray for logic ; b
Soheilom 2 years ago
how is that logical at all? how can you compare the sun to a pencil? just because there are many man-made things, doesnt mean everything HAS to be created by someone. Gravity is related to your size and mass(bigger you are, greater your force of attraction). And the sun is an enormous ball of burning gases. everything can be explained, so you dont need to resort to god if you dont understand something, especially since the idea of god is one of mans creations
xRogueGeassx 2 years ago
Exactly. Nature is much more complex than man made things therefore you expect me to believe that something as complex and wonderful as Gravity or the Sun where just created by chance? how can it be that something so complex can be created by chance, but something so simple like a car for example must be created by someone...?? or do you believe that if we put all the parts of a car inside in a big bucket and shake it someday a car would come out..?? your logic is not logical..
Soheilom 1 year ago
the last part is just putting words in my mouth. objects in nature being more complex just means that nothing we have created can compare. i could even go as far as to say that because it is so complex proves it couldnt be created by someone. We can build cars cuz they are simple. Like i said, just because u dont understand something or it seems unbelievable doesnt mean it cant be explained.
xRogueGeassx 1 year ago
but you are the one that cannot explain it. I am saying that these complex things are created by a far more intelligent being than us insignificant humans, but you seem to believe that there is nobody more intelligent then us "super" humans therefore if something is too complex for us to create then nobody can create it. Ok, so we are talking about EGO now and not logic. Yes its hard to admit that there is somebody more powerful and intelligent than us "super" humans.
Soheilom 1 year ago
therefore if something is too complex for us to create then it proves that it couldnt be created by someone. This in the Vedas is called "frog philosophy" A frog that was very proud of its pond was talking to a Bird about how big his pond was, the Bird replied that there was an ocean much bigger than his pond, and the frog kept asking the Bird about the size of the ocean compared to his pond....
Soheilom 1 year ago
the Bird told the frog that the ocean was sooo much bigger than his insignificant pond that it couldnt even be compared. So the frog refused to believe of the existence of such ocean because he couldnt compare it to the size of his pond which he thought was so big. There fore I say the same thing to you "just because u dont understand something or it seems unbelievable doesnt mean it cant be explained." You have faith in some scientists Theories (not facts) and I have faith in the Ancient Vedas.
Soheilom 1 year ago
at first you said "man-made" so i assumed we were comparing nature and man made stuff(im not that egotistical). Neither of us know for sure whether there is a being that created everything in the universe. Since there is no proof on either, this argument is incomplete. i like the example though. and i dont know what the Ancient Vedas are...
xRogueGeassx 1 year ago
Ancient Vedas are books written more than 5000 years ago in India. They cover everything in life; politics, spirituality, arquitecture, medicine, astronomy, history etc. There are many many books of course, but I am reading the Srimad Bhagavatam, which is about 14 books of about 700-900 pages each or more, so I still have a lot to read. However, the knowledge in there is so vast that it just blew my mind and I thought this could not be written by a normal human being.
Soheilom 1 year ago
Yes, its true that we cannot prove with our imperfect senses whether someone created the Universe or not. However, we can use our intelligence and come to a conclusion. And whether this conclusion is YES or NO, it is based on a mix of intelligence and faith. Some have faith on scientific theories, others on the Knowledge of the Vedas, others on CNN etc. ; )
Soheilom 1 year ago
@Soheilom I don't like the word faith when it comes to not believing in a god. faith is a word that i personally associate with organised religion. i dont think a scientist has to have faith in something, but rather a drive to find a conclusion. people who rely on the idea that they are going to go to heaven AFTER THEY DIE, those people are the ones who need to have faith. because death isn't something a religious person works towards. its the fear of death they try and drown out with prayer.
epshot 1 year ago
@Soheilom i personally believe in other life forms present in our universe. i really do. alien life is absolutely a great theory. and a god of any kind would be considered alien life. i just do not believe that there is a god out there. a GOD. a real true to the word god. are there more intelligent beings out there? yes? maybe. but you can't prove it. and you can't prove that an intelligent alien lifeform created our known universe or anything in it. in all probability an alien didn't make us.
epshot 1 year ago
@Soheilom in all probability life happened by chance. even if there is some sort of... heiarchy or food chain of sorts in the universe and ONE entity is at the top of it... that god-like lifeform would have to be the end result of a long chain of evolution. and ... if it happens to be the oldest and first lifeform in our universe then its life happened by chance. point is, life came from somewhere. even the life of the first, oldest, and most powerful beings (even a god) had to start somewhere.
epshot 1 year ago
Ok. First of all if God came from somewhere he wouldn´t be God, the definition of God is the all powerful supreme soul from which everything emanates, if he came from somewhere then he would not fit the definition. OF course with your current material and imperfect senses you cannot prove the existence or non existence of God. But the same way you believe in other life forms in outer space (which I agree on) I believe in the existence of a Supreme soul from which everything emanates.
Soheilom 1 year ago
As I said it all depend on where you put your faith in. Yes I said "faith" and maybe you dont like the word being used for science, but its a fact that science relies on lots of theories and hipothesis which are not proven, that means they have faith that these theories are true, you cannot deny this. For example, we study the Stars and the Universe and based on observation with our IMPERFECT senses we make some theories of what "could be true" and based on these Theories we make other theories
Soheilom 1 year ago
I am not saying all science is like this but a lot of it is just theories and not absolute truths, therefore it requires some faith. Even Darwin admited that his Theory was imperfect, and now archeologists are finding many flaws with the theory of evolution and some don't believe in it anymore..why? because it was based on faith not on an absolute truth.
Soheilom 1 year ago
In 30 years from now they might laugh at our current scientific theories just like we laugh at people who thought the world was square. I am not saying I can prove the existence of God, but from my own experience and observation, I can come to a intelligent conclusion that he exists, because I have faith, the same way others have faith in the theories of science like the Big Bang for example. Or even Darwin predicted that the fossil record would either prove or falsify his theory.
Soheilom 1 year ago
Darwin realized the difficulty the fossil record (missing links) gave his theory when he said, "Why, if species have descended from other species by fine graduation, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?" Today, top evolutionists know that Darwin's predictions of what the fossil record would reveal have failed.
Soheilom 1 year ago
@Soheilom
>science relies on lots of theories and hipothesis
You're an idiot. Sometimes theories become facts. This is the case when evidence is undeniable. Or do you think there are NO facts? There is the theory of gravity and there are the facts of gravity. If you don't understand the difference then I suggest you go back to school.
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
Yes but here we are NOT talking about Gravity. helloooo!? did you even read it or you just read >science relies on lots of theories and hipothesis. We are talking about the creation of the universe, where is the undeniable evidence here? As you said "sometimes" theories become facts but NOT all the time, so I suggest reading the whole thing before jumping to conclusions and insulting me, the poor "idiot", wow you are really educated? you must still be in school, or pre-school :) Im Over and OUT
Soheilom 1 year ago
@Soheilom
You can't even spell hypothesis never mind understanding my reference to gravity. As for my education I happen to have 4 degree, including a Ph.D. You're obviously home-schooled. You're too much of a cretin to bother with.
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
@TheStrangeRanger
pues yo tambien te quiero. Zorry for my english, but its not my first language, its my third language actually. you have 4 degree? or degrees? and PhD?! to bad you did not learn any real education, like how to talk to people, without insulting and getting pissed of on youtube. maybe you should leave your books aside and meditate and relax. Mucha suerte mi amigo, la vida es mucho mas que libros y estudios. Alha Akbar, Hare Krishna. Love for All. :)
Soheilom 1 year ago
@Soheilom Take your imaginary friend and shove him up your ass sideways.
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
@TheStrangeRanger can i ask you exactly what your 4 degrees are in and from what school?
stupidfleshmonkies 1 year ago
@stupidfleshmonkies Sure. NP. Right after you tell me your full name, social security number, where you work and your current address. I have a Ph.D in computer science. Is that alright with you?
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
@TheStrangeRanger damn dude no need to get all uptight about it, you seemed pretty proud of your 4 degrees, i just wanted to know what subjects they were in....
stupidfleshmonkies 1 year ago
@stupidfleshmonkies Sigh! The only reason I brought up my education is because it was questioned. No other reason. Period! My degrees are in the fields of computer science, mathematics and English but I wouldn't have even brought that up unless soheilom hadn't asked about it. Damn! Talk about exaggeration.
TheStrangeRanger 1 year ago
@TheStrangeRanger oh, well i gotta say that math is pretty awesome.
stupidfleshmonkies 1 year ago
Until the last part, I think this kind of took the piss out of both sides really.
harrifer3000 2 years ago
How many years did it take you to come up with such bullshit of a song? THis rap thing that you made fucking sucks no lie. Good try at the editing skills though.
Pureintensity1 2 years ago
This wasn't objective at all. If it were, Mr. Atheist would've come back and blasted Mr. Religion for such a horrible argument.
thelastholdout 2 years ago
Yeah, it sucks that the ending was so lame.
BornInAsphodelMeadow 2 years ago
ojbective?... Pff... this arguement was refuted a billion times over... But i like the fact that you're atleast creative
MaMastoast 2 years ago
LOL
Skripmusic 2 years ago
cool, but incomplete
VaijayantiUSA 2 years ago
The Goddess Innanna was in the underworld for 3 days & nites before SHE resurrected HERSELF outta there. The whole "bread and wine is my flesh and blood" EVOLVED from the rites of Dionysus (who was the "life" of the vine; hence the use of WINE in the ceremony instead of MILK, which they also could have used...) and Ceres, the Goddess of grain, (you could also look at the Celtic Corn King, too) whose death allowed men to live (eat bread). Again, "Christian" belief EVOLVED from this...
WWZenaDo 2 years ago
Gnostic Christians [who were the FIRST Christians, btw...] understood that "Jesus" never actually existed; he was a SYMBOL of the "death and rebirth" experience that Gnostic Christians were to go thru to 'die' symbolically to worldly cares and be 'reborn' symbolically to spiritual interests... The myth of "Jesus" being in the grave for 3 days & nites originates with the Goddess Innanna from Babylon, who - several thousand years earlier - died and lay in the underworld for 3 days&nites before
WWZenaDo 2 years ago
LOL
Skripmusic 2 years ago
Less than 1/10th the [currently known age] of Goddess worship - which, by the way, is still being practiced by Christians and Hindus alike... Christianity itself is a homogenized conglomeration that was plagiarized from earlier, so-called 'pagan' or 'heathen' Greco-Roman religions, as well as older religions. The main 'model' for "Jesus" was probably Dionysus, whose worship existed many hundreds of years before "Jesus" was a gleam in a fanatic's eye... Gnostic Christianity understood that....
WWZenaDo 2 years ago
Gradual trial-and-error development of human technology wouldn't exist. We'd instantly create the perfect car, computer, tool, house, etc. The most hilarious blind spot of Creationists is that RELIGION itself has EVOLVED!!!! Down thru the ages - the oldest religion on earth IS animism, still practiced by some Australian Aborigines. Then there's Goddess worship, over 35,000 years old. The 'bible' is a Johnny-come-lately Middle Eastern religion that's barely 3,500 years old - less than 1/10th
WWZenaDo 2 years ago
The BIG problem with the illustration of Isaac Newton's model is that ALL HUMAN DEVICES have gone thru an EVOLUTIONARY process. Humanity did not 'create' a full-blown modern computer right off the bat; it took thousands of years (the early Greeks produced the first rough computer...) of trial and error, natural selection and gradual advances to reach the level of technology we have today. If 'Creationism' were an actual basis for the universe, there would be no need for gradual trial-and-error
WWZenaDo 2 years ago
atheist side could of been better.
zgbrotherhood 2 years ago
love the message but the audio fouled it up a bit for me great work.
kgyantixbc 2 years ago
dude!i didnt really get that but..... thats hilarious!!
macaroni191 2 years ago
ideal human, drastic try hard, you see it the way it is, you wanna say I'm individual, but not really... think fool, biased
mpmman 2 years ago
God gave you some skillz!
preachinshawn 2 years ago 2
They are both dumb. Find somewhere in between that makes sense to you
EynollaBagherzada 2 years ago
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atheistfriends 2 years ago
I liked this video
theoneawsomone 2 years ago
yaya
Xpovika 2 years ago
thought this was gonna be stupid but i actually really liked :D props man
debourer12345 2 years ago
It was pretty decent until you ended it with an obvious ignorance of the most basic principles of cosmology. Pick up a book on astronomy and how solar systems form and you will have to redo the ending of this rap.
dominiricanusa 2 years ago
fucking love it, but higher volume should be good. still 5/5
P1chl3r 2 years ago
Weird Al?
GhostsAndAliens 2 years ago
O.O
u remind me from the guy in Forgetting Sarah Marshall
SatiricalThylacine 2 years ago
LMFAAOOO
i think i love you x
SicklyAbnormal 2 years ago
i wish some day you theists will learn how to READ!!!
the solar system is not the same as the model since the model doesn't follow any scientific law that create it at this form but the cosmos does
each object has gravity and in space where there is no resistance dust get pulled to other dust making a big ball of dust which then grows to be a star which then gets pulled to a bigger star (sun) forming a solar system
now how did the model happen?
adirm18 2 years ago
hehe
limoguy333 2 years ago
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD Job, you're great
Mangekosharingan7 2 years ago
NICEEE!
JoeyHoss 2 years ago
Nice voice mate. Don't be scared to use it. Speak up!
well done.
LubricatedBeat 2 years ago
neither one is for me
TheAirsoftNewb 2 years ago
Idiotic trash. I want those 3 minutes of my life back.
MaggotReborn 2 years ago
here you go.
transrepeated 2 years ago
Wow! Lots of energy and very creative.
Well done! I wish I was able to attend these talks. We don't have anything like that where I live. It makes me sad.
Love your videos though! You are doing good work.
Nemodog 2 years ago
There is no such thing as god....Its just a little story to keep empty heads on the straight and narrow
basslabs 2 years ago 2
There is no such thing as Atheism...it's just a little story to keep egocentric heads from thinking they have anything bigger than themselves to be accountable to
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
yes i have an ego....its better than having a god
basslabs 2 years ago
why?
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
God is boring and too good to be true....ego drives the real undenyable pleasures of being human....Why deny what is....
basslabs 2 years ago
since when was boring too good to be true?
thoughts, emotions and awareness exist. none can come from matter. logic and science alike prove this.
so wherefore do thoughts. emotion and consciousness come from? You are Non Matter within matter..
Yet your ideal is to please the case, satisfy the bird cage and forget about the bird.
This matter cannot manifest itself nor cant manifest the non matter that thoughts, emotion, consciousness and will come from.
so what manifest these things? or.....
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
"thoughts, emotions and awareness exist. none can come from matter"
WRONG!
Otherwise, medication would never work.
shanoxilt 2 years ago
thats like me getting a metal rod and smacking you in the face continuously.
then u spraying acid to the rod that erodes it to nothing and the rod is no longer hitting you.
so then you will say the rod had thought, will. emotion as my chemical acid had an effect on it and stopped my pain.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
No.
It is like the interaction of chemistry in the context of medicinal biology.
You need to learn about the compartmentalized lobes of the brain.
shanoxilt 2 years ago
u need to learn something dont come from nothing. and matter cant manifest itself.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
There never was "nothing". There has always been something in the physical universe, though it has changed forms.
shanoxilt 2 years ago
"Evil is the result of creation.
For creation is the projection of spirit into matter;
and with this projection came the first germ of evil.
If you examine carefully the various forms of evil, you will see that every one is the result of the limitations of matter.
God is Spirit, and being Spirit, is incapable of evil.
Evil is then, purely and solely, the result of the materialisation of God."
The Book of Illuminations 1, 2:19
Matter was CREATED, manifested from Eternal Spirit.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Is that Zoroastrianism or some form of Gnosticism?
Either way, it is wrong.
shanoxilt 2 years ago
lol you arrogant bastard.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Nope.
I just do not accept lies as truth.
shanoxilt 2 years ago
Ditto. That's why i ignore you.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
...as Ludvig Wittgenstein put it when he dumbfounded the atheists with one paragraph...
"The solution of the riddle of life and space and time lies outside space and time. Physical science gives you things inside space and time, in principal you cannot explain in physical terms where the universe came from. The cause of universe - must be outside the universe and must be a non physical entity outside space and time - that is the only logically consistent explanation there is."
Peace xxx
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Like god....you too are boring....This line of enquiery is over
basslabs 2 years ago
Copout.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Copout.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Copout
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
defeated
copout
spell ryt.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
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defeated
copout
spelling
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Yeah you win...But there is still no such thing as god
basslabs 2 years ago
don't be moronic. a child knows something can't come from nothing. the created emanates from the eternal. envy god, whatever but don't be mad to say all this came from nothing.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Lol...your the fuckin moron in this mate...Now just let it go and try converting somebody else your getting nowehere with me
basslabs 2 years ago
my replies are not for you.
no such thing as "converting" - everyone does as their heart desires, i couldn't change a miscreant, im no saint.
im just smashing ur void arguments so that weaker minded wontt be swayed by them.
ull never know Love is another word for God so dont you try take away minds from Love.
Ben follows no religious path of animal slaughter and heaven motivated worship.
The truth path is mercy to all, devotion to the one who gives us all, who is all. dont criticise it.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Lol...what a tit you are
basslabs 2 years ago
the feeling's mutual
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
but just to finish this up...there is no such thing as god
basslabs 2 years ago
to anyone else reading this dont pay any attention to this fuckin nutter he is messed up and just wants to mess you up to make himself feel better
basslabs 2 years ago
He who angers you conquers you.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God.
Heywood Broun
God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him. The reason why many people do not believe in God is not so much that it is intellectually impossible to believe in God, but because belief in God forces that thoughtful person to face the fact that he is accountable to such a God.
Robert A. Laidlaw
Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of God.
Tom Stoppard
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
lol....tosser...
basslabs 2 years ago
on the contrary, you're the one who serves your genitals, belly and eyes.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
yes your right....and it feels great
basslabs 2 years ago
wanker.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago
hahahahah...May god strike you down....
basslabs 2 years ago
Is that an attack on hedonism?
What's wrong with fulfilling one's desires?
Theists bend over backwards to make their sky daddy feel happy.
Caturdayz 2 years ago
Matter has no thought. emotion, consciousness or will.
You (soul) is where all those come from. You're merely in a body to exist on this material realm of selfishness.
Most religious people are hedonists anyway but a true spirtual person will try to feed themselves (soul) with God not their bodies with matter, touching matter, rubbing matter (sex) consuming tonnes of bad matter (food/alcohol/drugs).
You look out for the birdcage and forget the bird. The bird's food is that skydaddy.
TheyBastardisedJesus 2 years ago