I haven't read either of these books, mostly cause i can't bring myself to read a spider-man that's not peter. But speaking from a minority perspective (hispanic), i've never been concerned with the color of a hero. It's never been an issue to me. the issue is do i like this character? Can i relate to this character? And i think, and i'm not saying these books do this cause again i haven't read them and i'm sure they're fine, but i feel like sometimes they'll stick a minority in a mask just to
@kiddynamo41 do it. And that goes on both ways, minority writers and white writers. And that feels insulting. In new avengers i would see dialogue between peter and luke cage and relate to peter, cause he's like me. a geeky guy with a sense of responsibility, socially awkward and even as a super hero doesn't really fit with anyone. color doesn't matter. is the point of this long winded post. it's a cool thing, but it's not that important.
Static could've been salvaged with a better writer & artist. Mr Terrific sucked. No salvaging that one.
Love Batwing. It's one of my favorite Batbooks, and I grab all of those buy Red Hood now.
Ultimate Spidey is actually the only Marvel book that I still read. I hate, hate, HATE the 20 pages for $3.99 bullshit that Marvel pulls now, and the fact that it takes 5 minutes to read it, but Bendis can write the shit outta Spidey, and has since the original USM. (Wish Amazing was this good.)
I discovered this great channel only today and I have to say... kudos to you :) I haven't had the chance to read any of the DC comics, is there any way to read them online or something like that?
The Peter Parker story has been done to death. I'm happy to see them doing something completely different. If Miles Morales was Spider-Man, but he had an Aunt May and Uncle Ben and he wants to sling his web all over Mary Jane's tits and blah blah blah, I would fucking hate it.
Grace is right! I like Sarah's artwork to Ultimate Spidey better! I read the current one two days ago, and I didn't like it! I guess the artwork turned me away from the story but that's just me!
Since you're talking about a Batman spin off, what I would like to see sooner than later is a Batman Beyond live action movie staring Clint Eastwood, as the Elder Batman/Bruce Wayne.. I think that would be AWEsomeeee...
Mr. Terrific was cancelled because of crazy-ugly art and some incoherent storytelling. Static suffered from not knowing who the character was. The ethnicity of the character doesn't mean anything; Batwing has a compelling story that readers want to come back for.... and some pretty amazing art...
THINKAboutTheINK is in my top 5 favorite youtube channels i used just watch DC and Marvel animated shows but after seeing you on the Watcher and now here i'am a big comic book fan great channel Grace
Love the show and as a Hispanic I love to see other races get the spot light especially in a big title in spider-man. I know race shouldn't matter but growing in world where the avengers and justice leage are mostly white is a nice to see someone of another race get some shine. but that's just me and I wanted to say love the show and Grace is awesome!
Come on Grace, Miles has the Same Exact Origin Story as Peter. They were both bit by Oscorp spider experiments. The only difference being location. Peter, at the Oscorp laboratory and Miles at his uncle Aaron's.
I love the Morales character and to have a character like peter Parker killed in the ultimate universe was awesome because they don't bring them back in those books. So they can't not have spiderman and the race doesn't matter to me at all. Such a great book and I'm excited to see it progress and turn into something that is going to build into a great series.
(Part 1) My problem is not with Miles Morales. The reason I refuse to accept him is that he is not Spider-Man. He is his own character, a GREAT character, but Marvel is abusing the use of the title Spider-Man to promote a new creation. It might not be true, but it feels to me that is was done only to advertise Marvel Comics to young minorities. Basically, it seems like it was a PR stunt for cash (More the style of Disney than Marvel).
@Zachariah1978 (Part 2) Maybe if Marvel put good writing & artwork behind characters like Luke Cage, T'Challa, Tyrone Johnson, Luther Manning, Bill Foster, Misty Knight, Elijah Bradley, Ororo Munroe, Everett Thomas, and James Rhodes they would not need to kill off main stays like Peter Parker to misuse names like Spider-Man to showcase new characters like Morales.
@Zachariah1978 (Part 3) I am just angry such a wonderful character could only get introduced using the Ultimates line and through the unnecessary death of the actual Spider-Man.
A good way to write someone of color is to not even think about what color or race they are, unless the story focuses on racism it's best not to even acknowledge it.
orpheus was a black guy on the bat team they killed off in some event also there was a black woman on the bateam i cant remember what happened i think she survived
neither one had bat in their so maybe folks dont count them
Alan's comment at 3:34 is incorrect. Batwing is not the first Bat-related character who is a minority. Bane (from the fictional Republic of Santa Prisca) is Latino. Cassandra Cain is half-Chinese on her mother's side (Lady Shiva).
I loved the Static Shock animated series when I was younger. It's too bad the relaunch didn't work out. I would love to see a Static Shock movie though.
Static Shock and Mr. Terrific sucked balls! Go to Rozum's blog to read what happened to it. And Terrific just didn't work at all. I read the first issues of both books and nothing was good about either. Terrific needed a different approach and Static just needed a new editor and Rozum writing alone. Ult. Spidey has been the bees nees though! I'm very happy with that book
I can't speak for Batwing but spiderman has been awsome. I've actually been enjoying the ultimate title much more then the 616 version for quite a while now.
As for static being cancled. While I'm said it go, the title just was not writen in a way to get new readers. Honstly, the first couple issue fell like I picked up part 4 of a 12 part storyline.
"African Americans have had their own comics before,"
"Yeah, and they just don't do well."
Well there is Spawn which is at issue what 200 something? (I lost track)
although I'm not sure if many people remember old scab face ( I'm not being racist here, that's just what his face has always looked like under that mask IMO) is an african american or not.
Black Panther and Bishop (had his own title somewhere in the 90s) kinda broke that barrier already for me. But it's true that black people don't get enough lead roles. Good topic!
Do you think Miles Morales would do as well if he wasn't an ultimate comic? Had they killed off the first peter parker in the 'first' marvel world would it have gone down as well? I'm not a ultimate fan (with any title) but I understand it allows them to make new choices
@BeyondTheTrailer I disagree with the marketing thing because dc marketing the heck out of Mr.Terrific and Static Shock. They had ads in all kinds of mags, bet, ebony, and the standard ads. The thing with Ultimate Spider-man and Batwing was that they are books coming off the coat tail of popular heroes. Also it came down to the writing as well as what both of you were talking about how the books were not jump on friendly.
@BeyondTheTrailer Also I I think Mr Terrific should not have had his own full series it just should have been a mini, because he works better in a team. Static should have started out in Teen Titas so that people could get a grasp of him then ventured out into his own book.
@MeckoGecko77 :) I'm so happy to hear that! Sorry for the delay - crazy busy over here with this and Beyond The Trailer Oscar coverage... Thank you for your patience!
Batwing is one of the worst books to come out of The New 52 and it is an insult to the comics-reading community that DC is hyping Judd Winick's latest attempt at soothing his guilty white liberal soul as an example of diversity while under-promoting and canceling the excellent Mister Terrific book by Eric Wallace. Dwayne McDuffie is spinning in his grave.
I like Miles Morales, but the thing is, why does he have to be half African and Half Mexican? That's just ridiculously diverse. He does seem like a realistic character though. The only thing about the series that has irritated me so far is that Nick Fury gave him a chance, even though Peter Parker before him was treading on thin ice. :I
Batwing is awesome too! I can't wait for more Batman Inc.
I agree, these comics are very good. I started reading it once you mentioned it in your Stacktastic, and I can't wait to see where this goes. Thanks for showing me this Grace, I really love this series!
A slick animated series and merchandising for these characters would be refreshing
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Batwing isn't batman he's his own hero just like knightwing.
Trae857 1 week ago 2
I haven't read either of these books, mostly cause i can't bring myself to read a spider-man that's not peter. But speaking from a minority perspective (hispanic), i've never been concerned with the color of a hero. It's never been an issue to me. the issue is do i like this character? Can i relate to this character? And i think, and i'm not saying these books do this cause again i haven't read them and i'm sure they're fine, but i feel like sometimes they'll stick a minority in a mask just to
kiddynamo41 2 weeks ago
@kiddynamo41 do it. And that goes on both ways, minority writers and white writers. And that feels insulting. In new avengers i would see dialogue between peter and luke cage and relate to peter, cause he's like me. a geeky guy with a sense of responsibility, socially awkward and even as a super hero doesn't really fit with anyone. color doesn't matter. is the point of this long winded post. it's a cool thing, but it's not that important.
kiddynamo41 2 weeks ago
lmao 0:13 bitch what u say?!
kevin25249 3 weeks ago
I couldn't give a lesser fuck about the skin color of my comic book heroes, as long they are witty and kick ass.
RingoMcDingo 3 weeks ago
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I LOVED Static... i miss him actually... nothing new coming out of him.. he's not even in DC Universe Online!
Lianas1980 3 weeks ago
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Lianas1980 3 weeks ago
Static could've been salvaged with a better writer & artist. Mr Terrific sucked. No salvaging that one.
Love Batwing. It's one of my favorite Batbooks, and I grab all of those buy Red Hood now.
Ultimate Spidey is actually the only Marvel book that I still read. I hate, hate, HATE the 20 pages for $3.99 bullshit that Marvel pulls now, and the fact that it takes 5 minutes to read it, but Bendis can write the shit outta Spidey, and has since the original USM. (Wish Amazing was this good.)
TheMicrozone 3 weeks ago
I like Sarah's artwork on Ultimate Spider-Man because it's brilliant
SilentmanX3 3 weeks ago
I discovered this great channel only today and I have to say... kudos to you :) I haven't had the chance to read any of the DC comics, is there any way to read them online or something like that?
Yaminho99 3 weeks ago
@Yaminho99 Welcome! And yes, all of DC Comics are available online - I suggest going to their website to learn more. You can also visit Comixology.
- Grace
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@Yaminho99 yes Marvel .com or DC comics.com
MultiRedDragon10 3 days ago
Loved static shock it will be missed
TheBanksyIsBoss 3 weeks ago 2
batwing seems really cheap to me.. hes nothing but batmans version of steel.. or am i the only one seeing this lmao.. nothing original there people.
Cruiz954 3 weeks ago
i miss static shock.... :(
tnmt9393 4 weeks ago 2
i am a big comic reader and love how you guys talk like you actually read them and know them ( and i know you guys read them) thanks.
13awesomerocker 1 month ago
The Peter Parker story has been done to death. I'm happy to see them doing something completely different. If Miles Morales was Spider-Man, but he had an Aunt May and Uncle Ben and he wants to sling his web all over Mary Jane's tits and blah blah blah, I would fucking hate it.
EscpdFrmPsykward 1 month ago
Grace is right! I like Sarah's artwork to Ultimate Spidey better! I read the current one two days ago, and I didn't like it! I guess the artwork turned me away from the story but that's just me!
Tatsuranger354 1 month ago
i dunno to much about the new spiderman and batwing, ill have to check them out
gangrail 1 month ago
Since you're talking about a Batman spin off, what I would like to see sooner than later is a Batman Beyond live action movie staring Clint Eastwood, as the Elder Batman/Bruce Wayne.. I think that would be AWEsomeeee...
Rocflanagan 1 month ago
Mr. Terrific was cancelled because of crazy-ugly art and some incoherent storytelling. Static suffered from not knowing who the character was. The ethnicity of the character doesn't mean anything; Batwing has a compelling story that readers want to come back for.... and some pretty amazing art...
guj19 1 month ago
I'm loving Batwing! It's an excellent book. I'm also loving your show!
MurasakiTali 1 month ago in playlist More videos from THINKAboutTheINK
Really tryin to get into Ultimate Spidey. Waiting for Batman Incorporated to see Batwing in action.
manymade1 1 month ago
Looking forward to reading these two runs! Thanks for the info, Grace!
tippytop7 1 month ago
DC has a very diverse lineup? Since when?
WiseSonUK 1 month ago
Batwing vs Black Panther!! Next Marvel vs DC.
Toopizzle 1 month ago
this was a fantastic and informative video.
FuryoftheFilmFan 1 month ago
THINKAboutTheINK is in my top 5 favorite youtube channels i used just watch DC and Marvel animated shows but after seeing you on the Watcher and now here i'am a big comic book fan great channel Grace
KeatonWarner1 1 month ago 14
@KeatonWarner1 Top Five?! What an honor! I'm so happy that you're not only enjoying THINKAboutTheINK, but that it's getting you into comics! :)
- Grace
THINKAboutTheINK 1 month ago 2
@THINKAboutTheINK lol batwing vs spider-man going to be a awesome fight like batman vs the amazing spider man
TheNyree99 1 month ago
Love the show and as a Hispanic I love to see other races get the spot light especially in a big title in spider-man. I know race shouldn't matter but growing in world where the avengers and justice leage are mostly white is a nice to see someone of another race get some shine. but that's just me and I wanted to say love the show and Grace is awesome!
manpants117 1 month ago
Come on Grace, Miles has the Same Exact Origin Story as Peter. They were both bit by Oscorp spider experiments. The only difference being location. Peter, at the Oscorp laboratory and Miles at his uncle Aaron's.
AngelarmSpartan777 1 month ago
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AngelarmSpartan777 1 month ago
Grace, Whould you read a Book About an Guatemalan Hero?
spiderpablo11 1 month ago
I love the Morales character and to have a character like peter Parker killed in the ultimate universe was awesome because they don't bring them back in those books. So they can't not have spiderman and the race doesn't matter to me at all. Such a great book and I'm excited to see it progress and turn into something that is going to build into a great series.
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(Part 1) My problem is not with Miles Morales. The reason I refuse to accept him is that he is not Spider-Man. He is his own character, a GREAT character, but Marvel is abusing the use of the title Spider-Man to promote a new creation. It might not be true, but it feels to me that is was done only to advertise Marvel Comics to young minorities. Basically, it seems like it was a PR stunt for cash (More the style of Disney than Marvel).
Zachariah1978 1 month ago
@Zachariah1978 (Part 2) Maybe if Marvel put good writing & artwork behind characters like Luke Cage, T'Challa, Tyrone Johnson, Luther Manning, Bill Foster, Misty Knight, Elijah Bradley, Ororo Munroe, Everett Thomas, and James Rhodes they would not need to kill off main stays like Peter Parker to misuse names like Spider-Man to showcase new characters like Morales.
Zachariah1978 1 month ago
@Zachariah1978 (Part 3) I am just angry such a wonderful character could only get introduced using the Ultimates line and through the unnecessary death of the actual Spider-Man.
Zachariah1978 1 month ago
I still can't believe they changed the artist without relaunching the Ultimate line
Coldspider801 1 month ago
A good way to write someone of color is to not even think about what color or race they are, unless the story focuses on racism it's best not to even acknowledge it.
sneezle92 1 month ago
orpheus was a black guy on the bat team they killed off in some event also there was a black woman on the bateam i cant remember what happened i think she survived
neither one had bat in their so maybe folks dont count them
kurumais 1 month ago
Grace, what comics would reccomend a comic book begginer to pick up?
vishifishi01 1 month ago
Alan's comment at 3:34 is incorrect. Batwing is not the first Bat-related character who is a minority. Bane (from the fictional Republic of Santa Prisca) is Latino. Cassandra Cain is half-Chinese on her mother's side (Lady Shiva).
NicoMinoru 1 month ago
@NicoMinoru they said 1st bat-related black person, not minority. theres a difference
TheJavy726 1 month ago
Grace you are a sexy comic book fan.
biguy617 1 month ago
Really great video. Made me want to go out and get the books. :)
JPRUT1 1 month ago 2
As far as I know, grace, the reason Sara is taking a break is because she put out 5 (or 6?) issues in around four months. So she needed a break.
tbowne05 1 month ago
I loved the Static Shock animated series when I was younger. It's too bad the relaunch didn't work out. I would love to see a Static Shock movie though.
BSMART18 1 month ago
I like that Flash ring Alan has on.
cartoonboy09 1 month ago
Static Shock and Mr. Terrific sucked balls! Go to Rozum's blog to read what happened to it. And Terrific just didn't work at all. I read the first issues of both books and nothing was good about either. Terrific needed a different approach and Static just needed a new editor and Rozum writing alone. Ult. Spidey has been the bees nees though! I'm very happy with that book
cartoonboy09 1 month ago
Thank you for making this episode! you rock!
francescorengifo 1 month ago
Static Shock got cancelled AGIAN?
JamesIV664 1 month ago
@JamesIV664 visit John Rozum's blog and see why. It's effed up what happened.
cartoonboy09 1 month ago
eh now i do need to buy them
lostPhantom666 1 month ago
I can't speak for Batwing but spiderman has been awsome. I've actually been enjoying the ultimate title much more then the 616 version for quite a while now.
As for static being cancled. While I'm said it go, the title just was not writen in a way to get new readers. Honstly, the first couple issue fell like I picked up part 4 of a 12 part storyline.
BoyNamedSue4 1 month ago
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"African Americans have had their own comics before,"
"Yeah, and they just don't do well."
Well there is Spawn which is at issue what 200 something? (I lost track)
although I'm not sure if many people remember old scab face ( I'm not being racist here, that's just what his face has always looked like under that mask IMO) is an african american or not.
cha5 1 month ago
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cha5 1 month ago
"My President is Black & Spider-man too" (Young Jeezy voice)
cdouglas90 1 month ago
4:23 Nick Fury???
Flame77blast 1 month ago
Black Panther and Bishop (had his own title somewhere in the 90s) kinda broke that barrier already for me. But it's true that black people don't get enough lead roles. Good topic!
zeevne 1 month ago in playlist BETWEEN THE PAGES - every Friday!
Do you think Miles Morales would do as well if he wasn't an ultimate comic? Had they killed off the first peter parker in the 'first' marvel world would it have gone down as well? I'm not a ultimate fan (with any title) but I understand it allows them to make new choices
CottonWoolWorld 1 month ago
Grace should mention this channel once in a while to your BeyondTheTrailer Channel.
Also is your comic book going to be in TradePaperback?
alhex123 1 month ago
Good episode.
Pinkberrythecat 1 month ago
Grace, I just started watching numerous Youtube shows you host. How many Between the Pages episodes do you film at one time? Keep up the good work.
WwLoganxX 1 month ago
@WwLoganxX Very keen eye! I film two at a time, for budget and time concerns. Glad you're enjoying them!
- Grace
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@BeyondTheTrailer I disagree with the marketing thing because dc marketing the heck out of Mr.Terrific and Static Shock. They had ads in all kinds of mags, bet, ebony, and the standard ads. The thing with Ultimate Spider-man and Batwing was that they are books coming off the coat tail of popular heroes. Also it came down to the writing as well as what both of you were talking about how the books were not jump on friendly.
dadarkknight36310 1 month ago
@BeyondTheTrailer Also I I think Mr Terrific should not have had his own full series it just should have been a mini, because he works better in a team. Static should have started out in Teen Titas so that people could get a grasp of him then ventured out into his own book.
dadarkknight36310 1 month ago
killing in the ultimate universe ruined it for me. (that and the crap art)
kkingcombo12345 1 month ago
Finally! I've been looking forward to this all day.
MeckoGecko77 1 month ago
@MeckoGecko77 :) I'm so happy to hear that! Sorry for the delay - crazy busy over here with this and Beyond The Trailer Oscar coverage... Thank you for your patience!
- Grace
BeyondTheTrailer 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
this is fuckin stupid....leave the shit alone people
Cazz8203 1 month ago
Batwing is one of the worst books to come out of The New 52 and it is an insult to the comics-reading community that DC is hyping Judd Winick's latest attempt at soothing his guilty white liberal soul as an example of diversity while under-promoting and canceling the excellent Mister Terrific book by Eric Wallace. Dwayne McDuffie is spinning in his grave.
STARMANMATT 1 month ago
i LOVED static shock when i was a kid.
bebepopsr 1 month ago
I like Miles Morales, but the thing is, why does he have to be half African and Half Mexican? That's just ridiculously diverse. He does seem like a realistic character though. The only thing about the series that has irritated me so far is that Nick Fury gave him a chance, even though Peter Parker before him was treading on thin ice. :I
Batwing is awesome too! I can't wait for more Batman Inc.
epilogue7000 1 month ago
I agree, these comics are very good. I started reading it once you mentioned it in your Stacktastic, and I can't wait to see where this goes. Thanks for showing me this Grace, I really love this series!
flapperdoodle 1 month ago
neat
xela1221 1 month ago