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  • "35 Cults Exposed Jehovah's Witnesses Watch Tower". check it out if your considering joining this cult. its your choice but educate yourself first then decide.

  • @evidenceMinistries. how r u going to say that we are filth. u and ur churchs and synagoges(spelling fail) collect money or they cant worship jehovah. and the church doesnt even beleive in him. Jehovahs people arent false. we love him and we will serve him untill the end of this system. this world is lying in the power of the wicked one and u all need to realize that. its not long untill the government tries to ban all religions and when the try to ban jw thats when armagedon will start.

  • @Phantomkiller711- Not filth, just false. regarding the money, you have no idea what you are talking about. Your claim simply is not true. 

  • @Phantomkiller711 You are not serving Jehovah, you are serving the Watchtower society. They are your God. You are a false religion and it is proven by your MANY false prophesies.

  • The song should say go and cry cuz jws r right... To god they say good bye!

  • "Somewhere Between" by Mark Robbescheuten amazon.com

  • Thank you for your encouraging video. I am praying and believing God for my sister who has been a JW for 40 years to be converted to Christ by His amazing grace.

  • So how many Jehovah's Witnesses used to be Catholic (many) and Baptist, so many others. Jesus said there is only one path to the truth...READ Matthew 7:13,14, ..."few are the ones finding it." JW's are the only ones following Jesus Christ today. They are obedient to Jesus when he taught his disciples to preach the good news of God's Kingdom. They follow Matthew 6:9,10, keeping God's name hallowed, or holy, using and honoring his Most Holy Name-JEHOVAH. We are witnesses that Jehovah is God!

  • Jehovah is God's name. Check dictionaries, encyclopedias, bibles (at Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 42:8, and Isaiah 54:5). Jehovah's Witnesses serve Christ Jesus our Lord. Matthew 4:17 Jesus started preaching. He taught his disciples to preach in Matthew 10. Matthew 10:14 tells them to go house to house. Matthew 24:14 says this good news of the kingdomwill be preached... before the end comes.

    Jesus taught his disciples to make more disciples at Matthew 28:19,20,"Go therefore and make disciples..."

  • Whatever your path is to leave "The Cult Of False religion" May your Path be blessed,By "Jah" the same "Jah" that Rastafarians believe in, Jew's and gentiles believe in! The Same "Sweet Lord" that George Harrison and Carlos Santana Have "witnessed/and sung about" Whatever Your Path is. "set Yourself free " from the Cult that robbed Me and Countless others of their childhoods. ~Peace,Jah Love~

  • To barbsinclair:

    the point I was making is anyone who betrays someone you used to love is likely to be biased. Instead of spending time & resources hating a particular group why not spread some good news. What do you think?

  • all i see here are people who are victims of a selfishness world goverment, and that have the necesity of god to feel good or the necesity of a religion, religion slike colgnes are dependable of how you feel in the interior, sadly who you truly are in the interior is pre programed and it deceives you. sad..

  • Gosh, 32 people don't like this video?

  • Judas betrayed Jesus tenderly with a kiss former Jehovah's Witnesses don't even do that they just stab in the back. Jesus said the wicked slave would betray his brothers.

  • @Vicwarren711>"Jesus said the wicked slave would betray his brothers."

    Jesus also said "If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour." John12:26

    JWs rulers don't obey God's command: let all people follow Him, so that where Jesus is, there shall also all His servants be, and there Holy Father shall honour them?

    Vicwarren, are you a disciple of Christ Jesus, His witness serving Him, wanting to be with Him?

  • Jehovah is real and i have started to realise that his prophecies are coming real.

  • Cont: some points why their wrong instead of trying to brain wash people.

  • @porman1029384756

    If this is "effective brainwashing" to you...you are far more idiotic than even your comment would suggest.

  • Wow, Ive got no love for JWs but this video is ignorant. You act like there is nbothing in the world worse than them and there is. Why do you focus on them alone instead of all the other religous groups you dont agree with? Plus the video doesnt make any actual points it just tells us that being a witness is horrible for whatever reason and if I "find Jesus" by going to your church then I can be as happy as these people. If you want to prove how wrong JWs are then why dontt you actually make

  • Joyful + excited + Peace.

    Its great to come to this video and see so many friends. ♥

  • People who are "photosensitive" will be happier in the dark.

    Examine a trees ' own ' leaves. Examine the pages of ' our ' publications. Regards.

  • @megthepearl- Ironically, it is the publications of the WT which condemn it as a false prophet and anti-Christ organization. I can provide references if you'd like.

  • THE SAYING OF THE TRUE PROVERB HAS HAPPENED TO THEM - THE DOG HAS RETURNED TO ITS OWN VOMIT AND THE SOW THAT WAS BATHED TO ROLLING IN THE MIRE

  • @MORES1971- No, actually, they have left the filth of the Watchtower and now are seen be God as having the righteousness of Christ. There is nothing that the WT offers which can touch that.

  • @EvidenceMinistries WE are Jesus' modern day disciples.We preach the good news that God's Kingdom is coming.Jesus started doing this at Matthew 4:17.Matthew ch.10 he gaves clear instructions on how he wanted the good news preached by his disciples. WE are in fact, following Jesus' direct commands.WE are bringing TRUTH to the WHOLE WORLD!! :D YEAH! And Jesus is with us.WE ARE NOT FALSE.Matthew 24:14,28:19,20, Acts 1:6,Luke ch.10, Acts 5:42, 20:20 WE ARE TRUE,THAT'S IT,FOLKS! PROOF RIGHT HERE!

  • @eternityandforever christ was black

  • @eternityandforever No you are not. You are a false religion that has made false predictions over and over again. The bible says: "And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak..." Deuteronomy 18:20-22

  • @eternityandforever JW have made false predictions before and when they don't come true they change it. This proves right here that JWs are false prophets.

  • J.W. is Joseph F. Rutherford creation. Jesus teaching is of caring ,understanding,and truth. The bible is a history of men and woman who have put faith one God concept in time of trouble and dispare. In reality Jesus Christ represent us as the son and daughters of God and his death is our sin,but his resurrection is our salvation.So one to have salvation? one must have faith and trust in God and served all kind and nature. I like this video! I'm glad they are free to live.

  • Yes it's true, me too I'm not who I was when I take a study with them and I thank god for giving me the strength to decide stop the bible study with them, everything has,change,my life's back to normal now and I'm so happy!!!!

  • Love it!

  • everyone is entitled to there own opinion about religion or any topic, but hating or blastfaming a religion is just wrong. let people be and believe what they want. educate yourselfs before comenting about religions in general.

  • @Saikly- Can you please point out one hateful thing about this video? I find that people tend to drop the H-bomb (hate) when they do not have an intelligent response.

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  • @EmanationLightzen- You stated and then deleted,

    "Seriously? You're going to make this video and then act like there's nothing negative towards Witnesses in it? Either you're a really big coward or you're just an idiot if you're sticking with that response. I don't even care about the content, though honestly I was hoping for a more interesting video; entertaining anti-jw videos are hard to find. I just don't like the amount of stupid you put into that statement."

  • I hope you've learned a lesson. Don't post something you are going to regret later. It may come back to haunt you. I find it ironic that you call me a coward, but then do not have the courage to stand behind what you wrote and delete it. If you recognized that your comment was unkind then an apology would go much farther.

  • @Saikly Opinion yes. Salvation....Only one way, through Jesus!

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

    Hebrews 13:8

    As in nothing changed, nothing taken out for convienance, nothing added for convienance. To have Him you must take all of Him.

    God bless

  • the watchtower must fall.

  • Only Jesus can set you free.

  • The music is too loud stupid video. why waste your time and others.

  • @iluvrnb1- I'm sorry. I can't control the volume on your speakers. ;-)

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  • @EvidenceMinistries good answer, but i found an answer to my own problem, i just MUTED, it worked fine :)

  • Praise Jesus, Praise the Holy Spirit Praise the Father in Heaven !!!

    Miracles are possible and YOU can be saved from false doctrines, darkness, sadness, depression, not knowing the meaning of life, not having self worth ... any situation can be fixed - Let them who have ears listen !!!

  • I think this is a church with people just holding up signs lol. It all looks like the same damn house/church haha.

  • @primakr0n Now that you mention it, it does look like the same house. That's pretty funny! lol

  • @Jewelsheam Right lol

  • good 4 ui all

  • Praise Lord Jesus Christ for saving this lost souls!

  • Beautiful stuff guys , makes me feel great ,gives me hope to see your faces lit up with real joy ; wish my JW family could open their eyes , Praise Jesus

  • @ Flxblemetro:

    In the Bible it says that no one will know the day or times of Christ's return

  • let god answer your prayers if you get an answer ok if not so let it be

    who will decide your heart of hearts

  • Man, Satan is VERY powerful! You guys act like witnesses of Jehovah are sad, depressed and empty when in reality we're not! I'm loved, humble, and I get the best advice from the congregation of Jehovah's witnesses! I can't wait for Armageddon to come, I'm so ready for it! I can't be any happier anywhere else, this is a sad video for you guys try to turn down the only organization that does what the bible says!

  • @4everizingpeace exactly, because i am too a JW and i feel proud of where i am! I am also loved humble and i too get the best advise from the brothers at the congregation. I just got baptized September 25th this year i am 13 years old and i am grateful my parents helped me thru the way. of course Jehova especially. :)

  • @purpleluvr151 :) I'm happy for you, you're very young! I'm not quite baptized yet, but hopefully soon. Be careful watching the videos posted, the governing body warns us about apostates and this kind of stuff, don't let Satan mislead you. I've already been dealing with people like this for a few months now, it got to me in the beginning, started giving me doubts, but now I'm full on positive that we're teaching the truth! If EVER you have any questions, I'll be more than willing to help! :)

  • @4everizingpeace

    We definitely have to becareful as satan is roaming about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, and sadly many people get devoured because they look away from the scriptures and look to man for the answers, whether it be a deacon, elder, pastor, priest, etc.

    We need to be sure that our belief comes directly from the source, the word of God. If our beliefs cannot be backed up via scripture, or we cannot find what we're taught in scripture, we should toss it aside.

  • If one knows the scriptures, then you don't have to worry about watching videos because you know that they won't lead you astray. I've found that biblical discussions with those of other faiths have helped me delve deeper into the scriptures as I seek to share with them why I believe the way I do, and in discussing with them what they believe.

    Don't be discouraged to do this, or to check out another point of view. Remember in a debate, there are two sides to every story...

  • and to debate your side effectively, you need to know what others believe and why they believe it. Not just by hearing what your side has to say about the other side, but about what they themselves personally believe and way. You need to go to them, otherwise you may not receive the whole truth about what someone believes.

    The bible doesn't prohibit reading and listening to what other people have to say, rather it just says to test the spirits, and search the scriptures to make sure...

  • that what they say is true.

  • @Myhopeisinhim I couldn't agree with you more. It has made me do the same thing. That's is the true meaning of "iron sharpens iron." Proverbs 27:17. We can't expect to grow spiritually if we close our minds to possibilities and scenarios that don't necessarily fit our ritualistic values. But our willingness to discuss different points of view is our way of saying, "God I know you aren't confined to one thing, and that someone else may understand something about you that I don't.

  • LOL

    I actually attended a JW convention this summer and I was amazed at how happy and joyful the crow of people actually were there. Funny thing is, when I went there.. I was expecting more of what these pictures depict(oppression, unhappiness, hardship etc.)

    But something tells me, that these people here were most likely punished for wrongful acts than anything else. Which tbh, I happen to be in complete agreement with.

  • Hello, have any of you heard or read that the second coming of Christ and Jugdement Day will take place on May 21, 2011; and the end of this world and the entire physical universe will take place on October 21, 2011? The great tribulation period(which I think they mean a spiritual war) begun in the year 1988 and will end next year in 2011?

  • This is beautiful! It brought a tear to my eye. I wish all JWs could see this! I never was a JW but was married to one. I felt oppressed and unhappy bc he used the same tactics on me that the organization uses on them. Even though we are now divorced, I still pray that the Lord will one day open the hearts of him and his family. Jesus is AMAZING! He never left me throughout the entire time I was struggling in my short lived marriage.

  • so basically you went from a occult group to another...Christianity is a roman fairy tale..when are you weak minded americans going to wake the hell up..jeeezzz

    doc

  • @DOCSAFETUBE You fundies crack me up. Do you even know what "occult" means? Try learning what those words mean before you use them. Jeez, you're dumber than the JWs, and that's saying something!

  • @EelSacul hey dumb ass..do you speak english? fundies is not a word!! and 2. what do you think the j.w.s. were founded on? Charles taze Russell was an illuminati member..a 33rd degree Freemason his wife was connected with a satanist group , he was an Zionist...so he the j.w's were founded on an occult!!

    3. you can't preach to me dumb ass mofo b/c patriots like myself have been awake for a long time!!

  • Funny that you wont see a Jehovah Witness making a video of another religion i such a disrespectful way. You do know that JW done more for religions freedom in america than any other organisation by a long shot. They stood up for their faith.. that gets ma respect.

  • THIS VIDEO IS SOOO FALSE I SEE THE JEHOVA WITNESS WORKIN HARD AND THEY DONT DEPEND ON OTHER PEOPLE TO LIVE OFF LIKE U GUYS THIS IS SOOO FAKE FOREALS GET A LIFE

  • @TheMARIBEL88 no..how bout you donate your brain to science..b/c your not using it!! let's make a real bet? let's see who's right and wrong! I say ..the j.w.'s were founded on secrets...and the founder of the j.w.'s Charles taze Russell was a very , very evil man! so how bout it..want to bet on video so everyone can see?

    doc

  • thank you father for saving our sisters and brothers, in jesus name i pray, we reach the world with his good news. and i ask for my brothers and sisters to pray for the jw's to come to christ and be born again of spirit, and know you lord, amen

  • jesus is god the jw's are liars and CULTISTS

    they teach jesus secretly came back BUT THATS A LIE

    the word clearly says that JESUS WOULD NOT COME BACK until

    the son of perdition the man of sin is REVEALED

  • @singledad1234 lmfao...you bitching out the j.w's..and look at yourself ...here your claiming to be a christian!! Christianity was based on false lies and on mythology!

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  • @DOCSAFETUBE

    Many groups of christianity are based on lies and mythology, but the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the creator of heaven and earth, who was revealed to us in the person of Jesus Christ, is not a lie, or mythology.

    By looking at the world around you, the complexities of our world, DNA, humans, etc, trees animals, you know without a doubt there was a designer, and creator. This didn't all happen by chance; every heart knows that, but whether or not they try to deceive....

  • themselves is another story.

  • this video is so FAKE

  • OMG! I CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS INVOLVING FOOD! GET A LIFE PEOPLE!

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  • Jehovah's Witness, I didn't even know there had been an accident

  • This is so fake!

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  • yes god works in very mysterious ways praise be to Jah

  • ferles2009 and supertonps... you sound just like a theocratic ministry school talk lmao, did you get a "good" on your little score card?

  • Greetings,

    I must say that I really like this video. I even saw Joan Centnar who was married to the late Bill centnar. These people were hard core witnesses. Joan knew Fred Frantz and other members at Bethel. Now you should hear what she had to say about those people. On this vid she's at 3:56, "fear & uncertainty" They got out just in time before Bill passed, now he's with the Lord.

  • @mvgiles45

    amen!!!!!

    i loved it, i was a wittness too, but i found JESUS & got SAVED & i am finally these past yrs HAPPY!!

    THE CENTNAR NAME IS FAMILIAR, IM IN VICTORIA BC BUT ALSO LIVED IN ONTARIO CANADA, DID THEY TRAVEL OR SOMETHING?

    GOD BLESS

  • What kind of video is this!?!?!? any1 could make up such a vid an say he or she was a Jehovas witness.....lol. can any1 give me a reason why the religion is so much hated ....y dont u talk about others ,,,just always the JW

  • Hello, Ferles 2009, I asked myself that same question when I saw these types of videos. So, I researched and I found (Mat. 10:22) When you get a chance take a look at that verse and then it became clear. We tend to try discredit that which seems to be unobtainable. Take a look at Luke 9:23 and most importantly Mat 28:19-20. thanx to these negative comments about a single group got me acting like a private eye. lol I found these are the only people actually living the code of christ. :-)

  • whats this got to do with revelations. just people who an see clearly and are set free.

  • this is really sad!

    people really do not believe in the book revelations, it's like they don't the bible very seriously or God.

  • how is it sad when people are now happy in a relationship with Christ?

  • So many people say that they know Jesus and Love Jesus, but do they really? Being that we are imperfect, Do we know his commandments? Do we really try to live by them? Do we try to live by some and ignore others? Do you think that they are a burden at times? Do you know his main mission and purpose for coming to earth? DO YOU REALLY KNOW AND LOVE JESUS? DO YOU TRY TO LOVE AND KNOW HIS FATHER AS HE DID?

  • I LIKE IT !!!!

  • beautiful, trully.

  • jw another false religion

  • @51cacheton they all are "god" is a human construct.

  • fuck you

  • GREAT SONG!

  • More power to you all! Jesus said when the hour arrived no one would go to this mountain or to Jerusalem. Guess todays applications for the MOUNTAIN means Religious Creeds and JERUSALEM means the Organization. God will accept ALL who go to him with no strings attatched (religion). NO ELDER, NO PRIEST, NO CLERGY... Just YOUR FAITH and HIM. And thats the way it should be.

  • this is a natural reaction when the burdens in life are lifted...we begin to rediscover the child of the past...free to grow for eternity...

  • humantarianpictures notes something my dad told me, he died at age 93 and was a witness. they started with the no clergy idea. and read it for yourself as the ideal.

  • This is a celebration of an incomplete transformation. But at least they went half the way! Cheers, nice people!

  • JW: responsible, strong faith

    "in the christ": no responsibilities, accepted and loved at the cost of a small donation.

  • no1 knows the right religion and no1 ever will.. all we can do is respect each others beliefs cuz thats what they are beliefs.. no1 has seen jesus christ and no1 alive right now was sitting next to jesus to ask him what is the right religion so we are all making assumptions to our liking.. so please respect everyones religion no matter how crazy or they sound because there is no proof that ure religion isnt as crazy as some1 elses religion.

  • I just stumbled across this video. I am a newly baptized Christian, and this video made me cry. I am filled with joy and happiness for my fellow brothers and sisters. I know that GOD will give back everything that was taken from you and continually mend your heart with his abundance love. GOD will bless you all!

  • It's amazing how some hardcore JW's are condeming their brothers and sisters who are now happy and free. Is it evil to be a happy, well adjusted person? Surely Jehovah must be displeased with anyone enjoying life.  Must be the work of the devil, ... yada yada yada, - come on -give these people a break. The WT org treated them like dirt and now they found love. Be happy for them!!!

  • This made me cry tears of joy. I loved it. It just lifeted my spirits and reassured me that i have made the right decision for my life never to go back to the "organization." Thank you for this video!

  • Be careful in your condemnation.........salvation is between man and the Lord. "Let God be true, though everyman found a liar".

  • They are only happy now they can celebrate Christmas. That is why they gave it up. Pagan customs are too tempting for most people, the drunken wine of babylon is a delicious, just like the forbidden fruit. But, that doesn't make it right!

  • jw's use modern wedding ceremonies replete with pagan customs and superstitions

  • The JWs are not perfect and haven't come out of babylon far enough in my opinion. They worship on Sunday whereas the Bible says the Sabbath is on Saturday. They do not observe all of the festivals of God, only Passover and although abstaining from blood (biblical command), they eat pork which is an abomination in God's sight.

  • when Jesus came to the earth he abolished the mosaic covenant which included the sabbath, the only two responsibilities he left us with was to "make disciples of people all the nations" and to do the memorial of Jesus' sacrificed life, saying "to do this in remembrance of me". we feel the issue of eating pork as a matter of conscience. we leave matters like this between the person in question and Jehovah. however the pork does have to be thoroughly bled. erm... what other festivals? :)

  • Actually there are 1050 New Testament Commands. In the Old Testament there are 613. Jesus did not abolish the Laws of the old covenant "Do not think I have come to abolish" (Matthew 5:17-19). When Jesus returns, the Old Covenant Laws are coming back: Note Zechariah 14: 16 - everyone Jewish or Gentile will worship God at the Feast of Tabernacles. The Festivals are listed in Leviticus 23.

  • Jesus did not come to the earth to abolish a Law which God gave but came to pay the sacrifice for sin. If there is no law there is no sin! (Romans 5:13 - SIN IS NOT IMPUTED WHEN THERE IS NO LAW."). We live by law everyday, we obey man's law and if we do not we go to jail or are punished --the punishment we get doesn't remove the law. God's law never ended at the cross, that is one of Satan's lies to get people into hell by making them live a lawless life.

  • if any here had studied history, really studied. Christianity was an easy path, as old jewish law and paganism too required the blood sacrifices of animals. A book and belief was much simplier. but it lacked pagentry. Now science has nothing to buy into with ritual or even afterlife which humans long for.....BUT the atheists and scientific types fight amongst themselves for tenure and what papers get read. Enjoy YOUR life, not there is a concept. YOUR life. signed, put in my time.

  • JW'S R DUMBASSES! SO R XTRISIANS!

  • It has been a long time since I have seen this video...... It certainly makes me smile!

    Thanks SO much for going to the trouble to produce these!

    -Bart Hoss

    Kansas City, Missouri

  • Even if you believe that Jesus raised himself...who gave him that power?

    Jesus said in John 10:17-18, I lay down my life that I may take it up again I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.

    Who parted the Red Sea? God or Moses? Sure people say Moses...but God gave him the authority.

    Another example: What did Jesus pray immediately after resurrecting Lazrus?

  • Acts 10:38

    38How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

  • JW already know to read John 14:6.... I did read it before... I've been studying with JW.... I have questioning.... You said The NWT basically says we have two Gods. That goes against the 1st commandment! Where is scripture??

  • Bobby2k4 YOU SAID: "I have questioning.... You said The NWT basically says we have two Gods. That goes against the 1st commandment! Where is scripture?? "

    I'm glad U asked that question. U can find it in the NWT's translation of John 1:1 where they call Jesus "a God". Therefore, the Watchtower Society is proclaming there are TWO Gods..BIG GOD & Little GOD (or God, Jr. = Jesus). AND YES, THAT GOES AGAINST SCRIPTURE! ISAIAH 43:10-11.

    Look into JW teachings about Jesus. They R FALSE.

  • Jesus is spoken of in the Scriptures as a god, even as Mighty God. (John 1:1; Isa. 9:6) But nowhere is he spoken of as being Almighty, as Jehovah is. (Gen. 17:1) Jesus is said to be the reflection of [Gods] glory, but the Father is the Source of that glory. (Heb. 1:3) Jesus in no way seeks the position of his Father.

  • Bobby2k4

    Yes, I already know all the scrips you provided. But you misunderstand them and the nature of God. God is a Triune God...meaning he has 3 different forms or persons within his nature. And by you quoting all those scrips & still NOT believing JESUS IS GOD show that you need to dig deeper into what the BIBLE teaches.

    For example, the Watchtower will tell U that JESUS is "a god", but then they say He is Michael the Archangel when there are NO scrips that prove that.Can't be both!

  • GEN 49:24 "... his strong arms stayed limber, because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob"

    JOSH 22:22 The Mighty One, God, the LORD! The Mighty One, God, the LORD!

    Psalm 50:1 The Mighty One, God, the LORD

    Isa. 1:24 Therefore the Lord, the LORD Almighty, the Mighty One of Israel, declares: "Ah, I will get relief from my foes and avenge myself on my enemies.

    Isa.10:21 A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob will return to the Mighty God. compare to ISA. 9:6

    Jehovah is MIGHTY

  • NIV is a false!  You have to get KJV!

  • Bobby

    U R using the KJV! GOOD JOB! Now look at HEBREWS 1:6. "LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM" (in reference to Jesus).

    Even the NWT 1970 edition sez the same thing. But then the WTBTS changed the verse in their laters editions and replaced the word 'WORSHIP' with the word "obeisance". An OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO EXPUNGE THE DEITY OF CHRIST.

    KEEP ON READING THE KJV...IT WILL ALSO LEAD YOU TO THE TRUTH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A PERSON! JOHN 14 & 16TH CHAPTERS. SEE ALSO UR NWT.

  • I think it is the KJV that translated it wrong....I think it should say honor not worship.

    For example LAFFY...can you give me one...just one...scripture from the Hebrew Scriptures that describes a place of eternal torment?

  • He said: It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service. (Luke 4:8) He exists in Gods form, and the Father has commanded that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend, but this is all done to the glory of God the Father.—Phil. 2:5-11;

  • bobby

    I'm glad that U agree that YOU WILL BOW TO JESUS! PHIL. 2:5-11 . YES, ONE OF MY FAVE VERSES.

    YOU WILL BOW BCUZ EVEN IF U DON'T BELIEVE WHO JESUS IS..YOU WILL HAVE TO BOW TO HIM.

    U STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION AS TO HOW U CAN PROVE HE'S MICHAEL. & PLZ. DON'T SEND ME VERSES FROM DANIEL, 1 THESS. OR JUDE, BCUZ THEY DO NOT SAY THAT. ONLY THE WATCHTOWER SEZ JESUS IS MICHAEL WITH NO BIBLICAL BASIS.

  • Does John 1:1 prove that Jesus is God?

    John 1:1, RS: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God [also KJ, JB, Dy, Kx, NAB]. NE reads what God was, the Word was. Mo says the Logos was divine. AT and Sd tell us the Word was divine. The interlinear rendering of ED is a god was the Word. NW reads the Word was a god; NTIV uses the same wording.

  • Bobby

    i thought u said u were only studying w/JWs..u appear to be a jw.

    anyhow, i saw 1 of the videos u sent which does not prove the JW position on Jesus. u deny him by that video. still asking, doubting who he is..just like the Pharisees did.

    Read REV 1:18, then Rev. 1:17, 18. Then read Rev. 2:8, rev. 22:13, Isa.44:6 Where Jesus & the Father both say they R the "first & the last", the "alpha & the omega"..so do u mean to say u believe there R also 2 firsts & lasts, alpha omegas?

  • A truth presented by Satan himself, is just as true as a truth stated by God.

    Accept truth, wherever you find it, no matter what it contradicts.

    Charles Taze Russel

    Zions Watchtower

    July 1879

  • Did I catch Doc Bob in that video? The author of the site that lead me out, he'd be so proud of me now :)

  • Laffy: The Archangel (Chief Messenger) is Jesus Christ, Michael is one of the names of the Son of God, not making Him less Divine. Michael is the one that cast the devil out of heaven, the one that aided Daniels friends in the fiery furnace, that assisted Gabriel, the most powerful angel, after Lucifers fall, Michael is the one that carry out the judgement, casting the devil into the bottomless pit and so on. It is very Biblical to state that Michael is Christ. Look at Rev 10 carefully.

  • Laffy> the 7 churches in Rev, are explaining the history of the church, from the first church, 31-100, the second is from 100-313(Constantine) the third is from 313-538(Justinian) the fourth is from 538-1517(Luther) This is the time of the Antichrist. The 5th is from 1517-1755(Wesley and destruction of Lisbon) 6th 1755-1844(Miller)the 7th is what we have now, where all Christians think they are saved, but find out that half of them atleast, is not. Buy Gold from Christ, for we are poor.

  • Freddy: The Truth of things? What if you are wrong? I agree, the soul is not immortal, nor is there eternal tormenting, there is a judgement however, and as you say, some believes dishonor God, the Bible as a whole honors Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, it names Him as the one leading Israel out of Egypt, of giving them the Law, as the Creator of the world and the Sabbath, question, why do you not honor the Law of God, the 10 commandments, as any Christian should do, as Christ did?

  • Jake: The word Lord, in the new testament is Kyrios, this you know, now Kyrios is what the JW translated Jehovah as, this you know also. So to state that Christ is Lord, is to say Christ is Kyrios, wich is to say Christ is Jehovah. If you look at Mt 28:20 I think it is, the comission to baptize in the name, singular of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and the name is YHWH, so, there is YHWH the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Believe the Scriptures, yes bow your knees before Christ.

  • No Mekelsior the Word translated as Jehovah is the hebrew tetragammonon YHWH....Not Kyrios. And to say that Mt 28:20 is proof of the trinity is absurd. 

    One verse Mekelsior...just one where Christ said "I AM GOD"....YHWH has no problem saying this...he states it some 200 times in the hewbrew testament.

    Jesus had a God Mekelsior....He wants you to worship his God with him....The same God that Noah, Abraham, Moses, Samuel, Ruth , Esther, Jeremiah, Daniel, Michah,,,they all worshipped JAH...

  • Jake: Im talking about the NWT that translated the word Kyrios to Jehovah in almost all instances except where it said that Jesus is Kyrios. *I believe its in 1 cor 12 or 13* If you read 1 cor 10, you find out that Jehovah followed them in the desert, that the only Rock is Christ, further if you look at john 14:1-3, and compare it with heb 11, that God have prepared a place for the saints of old, in the heavenly Jerusalem, the heavenly, then with Rev 21, of New Jerusalem.

  • Of course we put it back to YHWH where it should be when quoting from the Hebrew Testament and a few other places where it was obviously removed.

  • JAKE - can you give me one verse where Jesus says "I am a man?"....

    I would recommend reading the whole first chapter of Revelations, slowly and carefully..you may be surprised at what you see.

  • Read it many times....your point?

    The bible states on many occasions that Jesus is a man. It never states that he is GOD Almighty.

  • Jake

    U SAID: "The bible states on many occasions that Jesus is a man. It never states that he is GOD Almighty." DO U BLIEVE THE SCRIPS? MANY TIMES JESUS IS CALLED GOD & THERE CAN'T BE 2 GODS.

    John 1:1 In the beginning the Word already existed. He was with God, and he was God.

    Col. 1:19-20 For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ, and by him God reconciled everything to himself...

    Col. 2:9 For in Christ, the fullness of God lives in a human body.

  • Jake - where does Jesus say he is a man? Does Jesus actually say it? This is your argument reversed...You ask us where did Jesus say he was God...so I'm asking you where does Jesus say he is a man?

    John 1:1 says Jesus is God..Isaiah 9:6 says Jesus is God...Hebrews 1:8 says Jesus is God..Revelations 1 and chapter 22 show he is God...Colossians 1:16 proves he is God as he created all things, and God did it alone.

    He is Son of man = human nature ...Son of God = God nature

  • myhopeisinhim

    great responses to jake about "where does jesus sa he is a man?"

    i'd like to pose another questions to jake & all JWs...

    WHERE DOES JESUS SAY HE IS MICHAEL? OR FOR THAT MATTER, WHERE DOES THE FATHER OR THE GOSPEL WRITERS EVER SAY HE'S MICHAEL. NEVER. NONE. ZILCH. NADA.

    JESUS IS GOD...THOMAS HAD IT RIGHT.

    JOHN 20:28 - "MY LORD & MY GOD"

    TRUST IN HIM.

  • Laffydaffy....

    I do not condemn you if you cannot see Jesus as Michael. We surmize from scripture that he is. He never did say whom he was in his pre-existant life.

    In any event it has NOTHING to do with salvation...but worshipping a false triune god does....think about it.

  • He is Son of man = human nature ...Son of God = God nature

    This is Greek Metaphysics not Christianity.

    John 17:3 (American Standard Version) 3 And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom thou didst send, even Jesus Christ.

    ONE TRUE GOD....sending the ONE TRUE MESSIAH

    And none of those verses listed above show that Jesus is Almighty God. You are confusing God with god.

  • JAKE

    Did Jesus take part in the creation of the world?

  • For us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things . . . and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things."

  • So are you saying that yes Jesus did participate in the creation of the world?

  • I am saying that Jesus is God's masterworker.

    Col1:15

    He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.

  • Okay so Jesus did play a part in creating the world...but how is that possible when the bible says:

    Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I [am] the LORD that maketh all [things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

    The Lord ALONE created all things...and by himself he spread the earth.

    If Jesus helped and he isn't God, did God lie by saying he did it alone?

  • Not at all because Jesus is God's spokeperson. Jesus was the first of all God's creation....Without God...there would be no Jesus...No heaven...No earth...no nothing. Remember that God created all things THRU Christ Jesus.

  • Actually...The bible says without Jesus NOTHING was made that was made. So if Jesus was "made", how could he have made himself if he didn't yet exist?

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    The bible says God created the heavens and the earth ALONE....if Jesus helped create the heavens and the earth in ANY way, then God didn't do it alone and he lied.

    And I'm sure you nor I believe it is possible for God to lie?

  • "Other" is implicit in "all" in Colossians 1:15-20

    So what exactly are objectors to "other" arguing for as the meaning of the phrase "all things"?That Christ created himself (v. I6)? That Christ is before God and that God was made to exist by means of Christ (v.17)? That Christ, too needs to be reconciled to God? When we spell out what is denied by the use of "other" we can see clearly how absurd the objection is. "Other" is implied in all, and the NW simply makes what is implicit explicit

  • 'Other' does not mean 'all'..nor is the word greek word for 'Other' used in Colossians. The word used is "pas", it means "whole", "everything".

    Christ made anything that was made...there wasn't one single thing that was made without him...these statements would include himself.

    Even if God created him, and Jesus created all other things as you say, it still mean God lied when he said that he created heaven and earth by himself.

  • My friend other is implied by all....ask any greek scholar.

    Truth in Translation......JaSON BEDUHN

  • If that is the case, may I ask you why no other bible BUT the new world translation has the word "other" in that passage?

    At least no other ones that I've seen have it. But regardless, the bible tells me God made the worlds by himself..and that the word who is God was made flesh and dwelt amongst us..he who created the world was in the world and the world knew him not.

    The very Lord of the Sabbath came to earth..the one who created the Sabbath...Jesus is the creator!

  • Because they have a trinitarian bias.......

  • But these are things we can argue about forever...My question to you is this:

    Is there a torturous Hell described in the Hebrew Scriptures?...if so...please site.

  • And as said, this is a topic to save for another time...what is most important is Jesus and who he is...The doctrine of hell or no hell doesn't make a difference in your salvation...but who Jesus is will!