@OrganicAllie i dunno what would jesus do? thats not for you to know only god can judge me so i dont get your hostility either and yes i call people fuckin idiots do what? im not perfecct and neither are you. Therefore you are judging me and dont know whats in my heart.
Do you really believe that salvation desexes humanity? I dont. I believe we will retain our sexuality in heaven because our sexuality is what makes us what we are--male or female--body and soul and spirit which we know is to be understood as a unity.
Consider: we were made in the image of God, male and female, and when God had finished he said it was very good. Secuality and sexual difference is very good according to God. So why should it not be very good in Heaven to be male and female? The Bible is full of the language of marriage. God ordained marriage and sanctioned the very first union between Adam and Eve if that can be understood as de facto marriage. Do you think that He will divorce Adam and Eve in Heaven?
I think this is a genuine response to a wrong interpretation of what Jesus actually said. How can Christians make a doctrine out of one text? It is what Christ did not say that is important.
The implication is that there would not marriage or giving in marriage like it is on earth. Check out how the Saducess framed their question. Jesus answered according to the context in which the question was asked.
there will be no marriage in heaven, because in heaven we will all be like brothers and sisters which erase the need for marriage and we would be with god forever
listen why would you need a companion in heaven? it doesnt make sense you have GOD thats your companion thats all the love and peace you need NO YOU ARE NOT MARRIED IN HEAVEN. PERIOD. Will you see them in heaven yes possibly but not be like it is here on earth this is an illsuion of what we think is real but in reality the spirit is the realest of your being this is all physical nothing else.
You can have companions ( Eternal sweethearts ) in heaven, like if you were married on earth, you will be with them, If you are not married, or in a bad marrage, God will choose your companion -Oden hetrick
So I guess you can be with someone, like doing boyfriend/girlfriend stuff like kissing, but not sex
but what if you love the person you are married to passionately, and while you still love christ even more, you do love them hugely? how could god just take that away? we may want to spend eternity with our spouses? how can we be expected to belive we will not be in love with them in heaven?
it is possible to love christ fully and still love your spouse, they're not even the same types of love- romantic love and agape love.
@blackoutninja are u kidding me? have u read the bible? on this earth what you think is love is not even close to what you would feel oward christ in heaven this is all physical GOD gave us the ability to love so no he wont take any love away from us its totally different in heaven man this is all illusion. You wont even be thinking about your wife like they said in the video all will be focused on GOD and praising him for eternity.
The love of God will outweigh the love of husband and wife, yes, but it's A DIFFERENT KIND OF LOVE (sorry for the caps, that's not anger, that's emphasis). the love we feel for God (Agape- unconditional love) is different to the love of spouses (Eros- romantic love) both are wonderful creations of God, there is no reason that they shouldn't continue into eternity Ecclesiastes 3:14:"I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it."
@99bleeders, why do you believe this exactly? what logic is behind it? what satisfaction do you gain from such a macabre doctrine? please, I'm madly interested to know, not just from you but from all the disillusioned people out there who blindly adhere to this sick idea of no marriage in heaven?
PS- on my last comment: the hebrew for "do" ("the things that god DOES are eternal..") is the same word for 'make' ("the things that God MAKES are eternal..") and a marriage is made by God, is it not?
@blackoutninja dude stop trolling!! seriously why would you care YOU ARE IN HEAVEN!!!!!! get over it, marriage is something that GOD gives you here on earth to love the opposite sex not to have marriage in heaven why would you need it? please answer this.
"Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love (EROS) is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame."
*Throws bottle at the wall in anger* OH, IT'S ONLY A PICTURE! IT'S ONLY A PICTURE! SO DON'T DEFEND IT FROM GAYS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY A PICTURE! It makes me so insane with rage that you make such a big fuss about family values and then treat me like an asshole because *I* want to be guaranteed of a little piece of that action!
So is our soul different from Human Christ.. Wat do ppl think if in Heaven we all become one with God like the body of Christ... not by mind but by soul also...
Would humans try to justify that? Would they people hate not being themselves.. Wat if ourselves r apart of Him? That has been puzzling me.
@OrganicAllie i dunno what would jesus do? thats not for you to know only god can judge me so i dont get your hostility either and yes i call people fuckin idiots do what? im not perfecct and neither are you. Therefore you are judging me and dont know whats in my heart.
99bleeder 2 months ago
@OrganicAllie well, you are entitled to your opinion i could honestly care less what u think.
99bleeder 2 months ago
By the way, I am an independent Christian and not a Mormon.
brianhyde63 9 months ago
Do you really believe that salvation desexes humanity? I dont. I believe we will retain our sexuality in heaven because our sexuality is what makes us what we are--male or female--body and soul and spirit which we know is to be understood as a unity.
brianhyde63 9 months ago
Consider: we were made in the image of God, male and female, and when God had finished he said it was very good. Secuality and sexual difference is very good according to God. So why should it not be very good in Heaven to be male and female? The Bible is full of the language of marriage. God ordained marriage and sanctioned the very first union between Adam and Eve if that can be understood as de facto marriage. Do you think that He will divorce Adam and Eve in Heaven?
brianhyde63 9 months ago
@brianhyde63 I agree. I think marriage is in heaven.
EdwardNygma1 5 months ago
@EdwardNygma1 Yes, there is man to woman marriage in heaven
/watch?v=p2X0HLI0oDw
TheMessanjah 2 months ago
I think this is a genuine response to a wrong interpretation of what Jesus actually said. How can Christians make a doctrine out of one text? It is what Christ did not say that is important.
The implication is that there would not marriage or giving in marriage like it is on earth. Check out how the Saducess framed their question. Jesus answered according to the context in which the question was asked.
brianhyde63 9 months ago
Obviously none of these guys has lost his spouse. Crappy nod to "A Grief Observed" as well.
RobPetrie1961 1 year ago
there will be no marriage in heaven, because in heaven we will all be like brothers and sisters which erase the need for marriage and we would be with god forever
idonotwastenames 1 year ago
listen why would you need a companion in heaven? it doesnt make sense you have GOD thats your companion thats all the love and peace you need NO YOU ARE NOT MARRIED IN HEAVEN. PERIOD. Will you see them in heaven yes possibly but not be like it is here on earth this is an illsuion of what we think is real but in reality the spirit is the realest of your being this is all physical nothing else.
99bleeder 1 year ago
You can have companions ( Eternal sweethearts ) in heaven, like if you were married on earth, you will be with them, If you are not married, or in a bad marrage, God will choose your companion -Oden hetrick
So I guess you can be with someone, like doing boyfriend/girlfriend stuff like kissing, but not sex
mvfanjw 1 year ago
@Eahoueh4YahWeh i'd pe happy to dicuss this with you. what do you believe about heaven?
blackoutninja 1 year ago
@Eahoueh4YahWeh ah yes, it worked this time, many thanks!
God bless you! peace, love.
blackoutninja 1 year ago
@Eahoueh4YahWeh much obliged my friend, but im afraid the link doesn't work. or im doing something wrong.
God bless you.
blackoutninja 1 year ago
He is Wrong!!!!!! I'll tell you all who ASAP!
boosterjonesable 1 year ago
but what if you love the person you are married to passionately, and while you still love christ even more, you do love them hugely? how could god just take that away? we may want to spend eternity with our spouses? how can we be expected to belive we will not be in love with them in heaven?
it is possible to love christ fully and still love your spouse, they're not even the same types of love- romantic love and agape love.
blackoutninja 2 years ago
@blackoutninja are u kidding me? have u read the bible? on this earth what you think is love is not even close to what you would feel oward christ in heaven this is all physical GOD gave us the ability to love so no he wont take any love away from us its totally different in heaven man this is all illusion. You wont even be thinking about your wife like they said in the video all will be focused on GOD and praising him for eternity.
99bleeder 1 year ago
The love of God will outweigh the love of husband and wife, yes, but it's A DIFFERENT KIND OF LOVE (sorry for the caps, that's not anger, that's emphasis). the love we feel for God (Agape- unconditional love) is different to the love of spouses (Eros- romantic love) both are wonderful creations of God, there is no reason that they shouldn't continue into eternity Ecclesiastes 3:14:"I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it."
blackoutninja 1 year ago
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blackoutninja 1 year ago
@99bleeders, why do you believe this exactly? what logic is behind it? what satisfaction do you gain from such a macabre doctrine? please, I'm madly interested to know, not just from you but from all the disillusioned people out there who blindly adhere to this sick idea of no marriage in heaven?
PS- on my last comment: the hebrew for "do" ("the things that god DOES are eternal..") is the same word for 'make' ("the things that God MAKES are eternal..") and a marriage is made by God, is it not?
blackoutninja 1 year ago
@blackoutninja dude stop trolling!! seriously why would you care YOU ARE IN HEAVEN!!!!!! get over it, marriage is something that GOD gives you here on earth to love the opposite sex not to have marriage in heaven why would you need it? please answer this.
99bleeder 1 year ago
@99bleeder I may not NEED it, but it's one of the greatest desires of my heart; Psalm 37:4-
"Take delight in the LORD, and he will give you the desires of your heart."
besides, what REASON does God have to take away one of the most precious and wonderful gifts he has created.
and I'm not trolling, I genuinely believe this. If you disagree with me that's ok, we'll know soon enough who's correct.
oh PS, what do you mean "get over it'? it's you who's getting agitated?
Peace & God bless you.
blackoutninja 1 year ago
@99bleeder also:
Song of Songs 8:6-
"Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love (EROS) is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame."
&
Matthew 18:18-
"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
blackoutninja 1 year ago
I think this constitutes "date rape." I remember how much this whole "Married to christ" B.S. disgusted me...
JonathanClement140 2 years ago
@JonathanClement140 I hear yah, amen. it's so obviously symbolism, not a literal 'marriage'!
God bless you, Peace.
blackoutninja 1 year ago
*Throws bottle at the wall in anger* OH, IT'S ONLY A PICTURE! IT'S ONLY A PICTURE! SO DON'T DEFEND IT FROM GAYS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY A PICTURE! It makes me so insane with rage that you make such a big fuss about family values and then treat me like an asshole because *I* want to be guaranteed of a little piece of that action!
JonathanClement140 3 years ago
the verse he's talking about is matthew 20:30.
"for in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of god in heaven"
king james version.
COLDWIND8282 3 years ago
So is our soul different from Human Christ.. Wat do ppl think if in Heaven we all become one with God like the body of Christ... not by mind but by soul also...
Would humans try to justify that? Would they people hate not being themselves.. Wat if ourselves r apart of Him? That has been puzzling me.
zxc28 3 years ago