Jaimie Might get a 3D Printer...... Maybe....?

[xXNavySeal]

Haha when I was younger we went through like 15 HP printers because of that exact reason

[HomeDistiller]

you so should have got the cnc machine, would have been very nice to make parts for the giant robot, although you could print parts and then cast them in Al

[Madmonkeythegreat]

Can you make a tutorial on reinforcing the wood with crazy glue. It sounds like you just soak it in some glue but I don't know lol

[wisyakman]

So..JME hows it going? You don't say? You don't say? You don't say/ Hmmm, he didn't say! Come back soo we miss you and the little one.

[wuuuuuuuuuuuu]

Jamie, where are you?

[sdbigguy]

I was watching Phineas and Ferber today and it looks like Proffesor Poffenplotz stole your robot. her robot has a giant copy of her head for the cabin though. I am waiting for an update soon. BTW the professor is pinky the chihuahua's arch villain (for those that don't know who she is!)

[rubbernecker13]

Jamie, hope you're ok, I'm jonesing to hear the rest of the abc axioms. Hey, check out "Stirling can engine pump and generator, 9 LED's" You could hook one of these up to a rocket mass heater and stay warm and have free electricity all winter off of wood or trash or anything you can find that burns.

[MoowChair]

Yeah never go HP. Another thing: You're out of cyan/yellow ink but you only want to print black & white text. You can't because "youre out of ink". And there's no way to override that. And when you open the ink cartridge turns out there is still like half of the ink left.

[skinlo01]

I miss Jaimie :(

[Exterslab]

I believe Jamie is in China at the moment. They black youtube over there so he can't post his videos! Let's hope he gets back soon :)

[lennyf1957]

Jamie, so is the giant robot project history?

[kukelz]

Hey man where are you? Are you okay man?

[JoshMurphy424]

Hey Jamie! How is everything going? I have been watching your videos and I'm continuously amazed by how awesome these projects are. Giant walking science school!! Anyway I've been messing around this summer and training for XC season.

Did you end up getting a 3D printer? Best of luck with the spider tank and all your other projects.

-Josh

[TheTerminator248]

I'd get a BFG 9000

[spinout182]

I know I'd go with the CNC mill. CNC mills with headstocks and vices on ball joints can extrude just about any shape.

[wayoutwestify]

where is waldo ?

[stoShots]

Hope you're well Jamie. I'm looking forward to more awesome videos and projects. :)

[fatback2]

come back Jamie, come back....

[curriguy]

WHERE ARE YOU??

[joelamckenna]

HAAAAAAA spotify took your logo and modifidied it.

[sdbigguy]

I love your videos and I know which printer I would want but I think what your final needs and what they will pay for has to be the biggest input for your choice.

I always look forward to your latest and greatest and I haven't seen anything new for a while and I was just worried that Operation Banana Rescue might have had less that optimal results... hate to think you might have been injured... I think of you and indestructible Hope to see updates.

SDBIGGUY, San Diego CA.

[cccincocc]

Oooh! Get the mill! You wouldn't have to stop and consider the cost of material and could whack out all sorts of cool stuff!, just on a whim! You could make the "overhanging" parts in pieces and stick them together.

[PGuru666]

sorry about being late to this video but I thought I would point out that when 3d printing when you have over hang and such you can just build snappable towers under over hanging areas inorder to avoid collapsing structures. Then when you are done you just snap off the towers as you make them thin enough to do so.... but i'm sur eyou already knew all that.... I hope that explination makes sence.

[popcrnshower]

parenting win 5:04

[wiseyish]

Having worked with Roland products (VersaCamm, and other vinyl printers and cutters), I can say that the Roland stuff is well worth the money!

[kj369kj]

A while ago you complained about companies not making steel stove pipes. I was staring at some roofs recently and noticed all the pipes(possibly iron) were painted. Not trying to be smug just relaying something i noticed.

[unambitious]

Hey I saw a toy (hex bug spider) that uses the exact same mechanism as your rc robot dealy. I'm assuming that they took the mechanism from your designs considering you started these videos long before I saw this company's products. You can see reviews for it on youtube... anyway hope that your are not being ripped off.

[73SDR]

I don't think it's such a good idea to let the baby chew on any of those parts...... who knows what's in that material.

[trialnterror]

Get the 3000 you already can cut wood with the laser ! But the plastic builder is so cool u can build anything and do holes or stuff that the cnc would not be able to do! My vote is for the 3000

[daddybear1965]

that is awesome!!! wish i could afford it!!!!

[dav1dh0ff]

so cool! one thing to consider if you are going to be milling wood is that the grain will have a big effect on strength as you have already see with the gear teeth on the laser blaster. also, be sure to consider how small of features you can cut out of wood without splitting it out. good luck!

[xtant]

Oh, the bfb is outrageously expensive and really low quality by the way. It's based on the rapman which is very old. They are super hard to keep square and working. You will be repairing it constantly.

If you go for a 3d printer, just saying that the RepRap Mendel is <$1000. hell, even a makerbot is better than the bfb and its like $1400.

[MrSnille]

Hi Jaimie! If you want to start with something simple and prooven to be good, Check out the Huxley printer in indigogo.com/eMAKER-Huxley-3D-­printer-kits They still offer a kit for $550. Nozzle 0,5mm layer 0,3mm. Buildspace 140x140x110mm. It's a very nice deal! :)

[velbjo]

I would go with CNC because it's what I know. But a 3D printer i cooool! But CNC is what I think is the best out of the two.

[Kresjan6]

build your own! :-)

[ADinHD]

My wife says you should go with the BFB.

[WoodsyDotOrg]

CNC 100% because of the rotation upgrade option you mentioned. Future proof!

[Arahknid]

I still think you should get one of those Rap-Man things. Open source. You can use one to make more of itself (less the parts you have to buy like motors). It's open source. And I have seen where someone has come up with a 'plastic' extrusion that is not only environmentally friendly, but you can make it yourself from home grown crops.

[aneuryzm]

I guess each have their own advantages. If given the opportunity I would go with CNC. The part quality is just better, you can cut wood/plastic/soft metals, & you can stage the parts (turn the part 90° or whatever ° required to get the cut you need). Anyways good luck!

[PghGingerKid]

You could make molds with the router mill too. I would think the wood would distort as it drys out, unless you are using dry lumber stock.

[PghGingerKid]

I think you should get the 3d printer from them, but if you can convince them to get you both the 3 axis Roland router, and printer do that. I mean, they were going to get you a 15000 printer, for the fine details you can use the router and quick test pieces with the printer. U can mill aluminum with the router, and you could find, or even melt and cast your own blocks of it.

[Elephantintheroom01]

Get yourself a rap-man because they cost vertually nothing. Then you can have multiple CNC machines and stand in the middle of the room going WHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[ddl2k7]

what if you keep needing to change stuff and redo stuff that would get expensive jus making junk pieces go with the cnc why better in my mind a lot more environmentally friendly

[blenderuser]

Jamie, you should totally get either a BFG-9000, or a GruntMaster-6000. They both helped me more than once. :-)

[DrGreenfun]

lol kids are great the ol switcha-roo

[DanialBeta]

Get a Thing-O-Matic. It's a rather small bed, but it doesn't use a ton of power and only costs $1200. The detail is totally better than the one you were showing. The bed size might be too small though. You might try a Rep-rap if you need the bigger footprint. The ToM and Rep-rap use $15/lb ABS plastic. You can also get recycled PET plastic if you want.

[kakarot1232001]

A 3d printer is nothing more that cnc mill with plastic extruder. You can check reprap for an entry level 3d printers. Since you have a laser cutter, you can cut out a reprap or makerbot 3d printer.

So, get the mill, and you should be able to mount an extruder instead of the end mill.

[DeoMachina]

Wait, 3D printers use refill cartridges? Or were you still talking about ink printers?

[photolodge]

The problem with a CNC is the size of the bit when cutting inside corners. It will round out to the size of the bit and when creating interlocking pieces this will create more complicated challenges than using a laser or 3d printer that virtually have no radius of tooling to account for.

[Romashk]

With all those toys, I think you'll have to consider enhancing your electric support.

[bots4life]

If not, there is open source plans for a 3d printer called rip rap.



[MrForzano]

why don't you get both? The price of both of them is still less than what they were gonna put up for the HP.... GET BOTH!

[madisonelectronic]

Just face it, you want a new toy. Pick the one that makes the best goodies for the kid.

[seks03]

Did you have to walk through the rain back to the dome carrying your baby?

[smartpartzzkidd]

Go CNC, hands down, I built one and love it, plus, building a rotary table is extremley simple, just take an old chuck from a lathe, and a stepper motor, maybe some timing pulleys or chains/sprockets, you could totally do it to get those angles

[smartpartzzkidd]

Go CNC, hands down, I built one and love it

[personperson666]

Why not a 4D printer?

[DeoMachina]

@personperson666 Technically they're all 4D because they all take time :D

[Agitpropist]

I would go CNC Jamie, you can machine wooden parts with higher tolerance, faster. You can do about anything with a 3 axis machine with the right fixture.

[ta2simps]

Don't get the cnc. Go with the 3D printer, and source cheaper filament.

[jamieclarke321]

Go 4 cnc and you could upgrade it with a filament extruder!

[billyzelsnack]

If you're ok with the BFB then check out the makergear mosaic ($1000) or the emaker huxley ($500). Also, filament is much cheaper than you have been quoted. $15 per pound is easily found.

[burntcoffeemedia]

Hey, why not make your own? Have you checked out the rep rap machine, it's all open source, and the people heading the community are working on making it be able to use recycled plastics, like milk jugs, and such.

[aggrav8d]

Why not put a 3D printer nozzle on a CNC machine, instead of a spindle?

[gardinustaung]

The CNC with the attachment, You can cut out of wood and I suspect it can cut plastic blocks as well.

[ElliotovHull]

Get them to buy you a generator aswell.

[oliverjenks]

take a look at thingiverse do com for what others have used 3d printers for

[roidroid]

i remember hearing about a university who figured out a super-cheap replacement for the expensive commercial sintering powder for 3D printers, they mixed it themselves from base ingredients and it worked real good.

[kukelz]

i really like wood instead of plastics... its organic and awesome.

[Norfeldt]

I hope you take the CNC. Would love to see what cool things you can make from forest materials and sun power.

[oliverjamescarr]

Can't you make hollow pieces using the 3D printer? It may only be the one I have at school but it uses another material to fill hollow parts and when it's done the packing material can be dissolved in an etch tank. Not sure what's in there but it may be sodium hydroxide and it smells, manor dangerous around the baby too :/

[tjhowse]

Bah! The darwin-derived 3d printers are vastly inferior to the mendel-based ones. Check out a prusa mendel, they're getting pretty awesome these days. Out of the box printers are boring and cost far too much. You could build yourself a mendel for $600 in parts, tops. It uses 1.75mm or 3mm PLA or ABS filament which is pretty cheap these days.

[pa5op]

I sould take the 3d printer

[RedNapalm]

Do those guys have metal fabrication and larger scale printers?

[spec10]

cnc with the rotary attachement sounds superior in terms of long term costs and power consumption over time since the cnc cuts much faster than the 3d printer works. i'd prefer the cnc :)

[domokid]

Look at sherline, and taig size machines

[littlestworkshop]

Jamie, don't get the HP, apart from the fact it is just a re-branded uprint by dimension there are now better options that are a little cheaper ($9,900) (giving you head room for other machines). Look at the v-flash by 3D systems. The resolution is better, it is faster and the parts are like injection moulded parts. Zcorp also do the zbuilder which is similar but I suspect more expensive. Both are based on dlp projectors so they should be quite low power.

[LSFulgham]

@DDoom The MakerBot only does like 6x6x6 inch prints, I think.

[wojtachk]

3D printer ... you don't know what you will need to design and the it allows for more versatility and future proofing yourself... though you have more eco concerns that me so that also comes into play... but as something that you don't have to pay for and will allow you to create a multitude of things quickly... the 3D printer seems like a better choice

[braddock001]

CNC !

FTW!

[13igAdam2040]

I vote CNC (if we're voting), I hear ink costs for 3D printers can get silly (although you did mention cost). But have you looked at MakerBot at all? All open source 3D printer, I think its a tad cheaper and can use almost anything.

[Festoolification]

CNC - like you say the limitations will force you to make parts that can be moulded and manufactured using standard processes - very important for your final designs. Faster, cheaper, better finish quality, almost unlimited range of materials you can use -definitely the first machine ot get.

[DDoom]

Ever heard of a MakerBot? less than 1K for the components and once you've made it, you can use it to make ANOTHER one... so maybe you could find someone who already has one and split the cost with them!

[austinbarnett1]

Another huge bonus to the CNC mill is that you can whip up a simple part in minutes, instead of hours. You really need to factor that into your power consumption.

I have a large plasma table, and it uses a ton of power, but its usually done making parts in a couple of minutes. We don't even see a change on our power bill when I use it a lot. When I am using the mill though... I cut a lot of detailed aluminum parts and sometimes that thing is running all day and we do notice it on the bill.

[austinbarnett1]

I think that ideally you would really want to have both a rapid prototype and cnc milling machine.

You don't need to buy an $8000 roland... there are a lot of options out there now for a lot less money. I have built all my machines, and I am certain that if time wasn't such a constraint you would too. I think the most I have spent was around $1500 building one. Once you build one, then you will eventually build several more making improvements along the way.

[selwynrh]

i know going expensive and with big companies isnt nice, you have to love open source but things like precision might be where you win, i thought id mention that if you print something twice as big because its 3d it uses 8 times as much material 1x1x1=1cuinch, 2x2x2=8cuinch, you might find you could source non hp plastic pellets/wire/powder or whatever th hp uses, the reprap forums are always worth looking at, good luck

[shotgunmario]

if you're only gonna go for one, get the CNC. I would also look into getting the six-directional head, even if it is another 3 thousand. Also, try and get some metal-ready bits for them--- then you can do custom aluminum piece cutting and make crazy-cool adornments for the giant robot!

Or, as someone else already said, get both. Maybe not right away, but get both :)

[pumkinvine]

CNC, you're not a plastic kind of guy JME

[WTFMAKINGANACCOUNT]

I definitely recommend the CNC over the rapid prototype machine. The main advantage I see, for you especially, is that the CNC machine is capable of making usable parts. Like you said, you can impregnate the wood with glue and end up with crazy strong parts, whereas rapid prototyping... kind of just leaves you with prototypes. We have both in my shop at school, and the CNC machine sees far more use. I don't suppose that one you're looking at could handle steel, that would be ideal.

[juanestrad]

Go with CNC because it will benefit you a lot more plus the cost for the wood is free sooo why not. The only problem i see with the CNC is the power it take so i say get more solar panel haha i think you can do a lot more with the CNC

[ImJogginWithScissors]

MY VIDEO STOPPED AT 0:14

[slantedseven]

Hey dude, glad to see you're leaping feet first into 3D printing! My design's almost complete now, and should run around 30-60W. Once I've ironed out the kinks I intend to build one up for you to take home when you're next in England. A little gift from one inventor to another =)

[YTBYlover]

Why not get both? Budget for the Hp is 15k

CNC (4k) + 3D Printer (8K) = 12K

Hell you'd be saving the toy company 3k!

[widget1985]

Maybe a Makerbot instead of a BFB?

[MyAussieDay]

HP is crap, there ink is way to dear and they don't fill there ink's up

[selwynrh]

@MyAussieDay there business model for making money of ink is stupid, thats a real problem with all inkjets, laser printers are a much better option for black and white as, no clogged nozzles, no ink running if you get it wet, although for inkjets i wish the big manufacturers would start using continuous ink systems (external ink reservoirs with silicone tube to the print head), and maybe dedicated cleaning fluid instead of just wasting ink for cleaning, inkjets have issues if you ask me.

[MyAussieDay]

@selwynrh So agree i am sick of this, i have a HP 3110 the inks are (02) a full set cost me here in Oz $119.00 sometimes cheaper, i have a spare set of NEW ink witch IS NOW OUT OF DATE. and will not work, so i went and got some generic ink at a cost of $88.00 and the HP3110 will not accept it. So now i have 2 sets of ink, I went and got a cheap EPSON NX125 for now @$35.00 and i have seen videos on YT were you can adapt outside BULK ink storage. So i am going to do that. Thanks for the comment.

[Pimpypapasmurf]

you think you had problems with the laser cutter wait tell you get the cheap 3d printer.

[xtant]

I would go the cnc machine, without the rotary attachment if money is a concern. You can always flip pieces to do overhangs and the like. They are far more versatile than 3d printers and their results can be used in situ, rather than 3d parts which are typically not load bearing.

In short, a cnc will take you further than a 3d printer in the end.

(also, that diy printer & bfb is based on a darwin reprap. old school, look up mendel reprap. I'd say the bfb would be outdone by a cheaper makerbot)

[akai454]

3D printer for now to get the job done, but later when You start making monies then You can get the CNC Mill. That's My vote, Take Care Man.

[Helioforge]

With the plastic ones, you could dip the parts in some sort of "chicken batter" to cover the original texture. Or maybe set finished parts in the laser cutter machine, set to burn-in a random surface texture!

[chatomairi]

Can't wait to see what you build next.

[TheGreatSteve]

That red thing reminds me of a speed loader.

[acidDiesel]

The CNC mill would best fit your needs for the kind of job you want and there built like tanks… ware the printer is nice but only can do one job. the best pat of the mill it can do aluminum robot parts.

[sylvanenergy]

go for the 5 axis milling machine! you will be way more happy, the proto can go into mold process immediately versus the 3d printer which you will have to do some hand refining to get it ready for mold making. Oh yes I wish I had your decision to make, but I don't so all I can do is virtually poke you with an electron to photon stick.

[acidDiesel]

CNC all the way

[furroy2]

bfb!!! go for it!!