Keine gute Idee, solche privaten Videos mit Auftritten der Ausbildungschöre auf youtube hochzuladen! Das führt zu Missverständnissen, wie u.a. der Kommentar von 33maxxx zeigt. Es handelt sich hier offensichtlich um noch kleine Nachwuchssänger, nicht um reife Solisten aus dem offiziellen Konzertchor des Tölzer Knabenchors. Letztere haben oft ein nahezu professionelles Niveau, sodass namhafte Dirigenten wie Karajan, Bernstein, Abbado und Harnoncourt immer wieder mit Tölzer Knaben gearbeitet haben.
@Toelzerfanclever - Vergleichen Sie diese Aufnahme doch einmal mal mit der Aufnahme der Thomaner "Thomanerchor - Gloria (Vivaldi) Part 1" ab Minute 6:12, dann werden sie die vielen Negativbewertungen verstehen. Dieses Video hier zeigt wirklich keine besonders bemerkenswerte Leistung. Es fehlt jegliche Musikalität und die Intonation überzeugt nicht. Knabensolisten können das wesentlich besser als hier angeboten. Von der miseralen Videoqualität, die keine Entschuldigung ist ganz zu schweigen.
@33maxxx Zur "Videoqualität": Das Video wurde in 2006 hochgeladen. Damals gab es noch keine bessere technische Qualität auf YT, wenn ich mich nicht irre. Die zitierte Veröffentlichung auf dem channel von aquaria85 kenne ich wohl und stelle fest, dass es sich um eine "Slideshow" handelt. Die Thomaner sind tatsächlich besser. Das begründet m.E. aber nicht eine Abwertung der Darbietung der Tölzer durch 20 rote Daumen. Die Abwertung ist m.E. auch nicht durch den Vergleich zustande gekommen.
they're sooo adorable and are amazing singers, we are doing this song for my all girls choir and these boys can hit the notes that some of us cant hit, it's just amazing! good job guys!
I found it very funny when I was looking through the comments and saw that someone asked why the boys' lips we so open and forward in European choirs. That is called singing. You have to open your mouth to do that. I personally do not see that style of singing as much where I am located in the USA, but that doesn't mean it's just European choirs that do that.
lolol? well i spent my childhood time singing excerpts like this in a very good musical school, and let me tell you - there is no possibibilty of distinguishing the voice of the girls (much more of us btw) and the boys at this age.
They are so wonderful!! Yes, they have made some mistakes, but honestly, how old are they? 10? 11? younger? They have done wonderfully for their age. bravo.
these kids have done great for their age.. adults struggle to get this piece straight..(although this is the most simple vivaldi). so why not appreciate these children. and boy kids can sing this, why not? if in vivaldis t ime if boy kids could be castrated to keep this high tone as in women, why not these kids sing?... learn to apreciate talents. these kids sound so good. bravo bravo.. keep singing boys
the only comment that I have is that this song is something girls should sing not little boys. that seems very odd to me and I was very uncomfortable watching it.
We would all sing so much better if we would hold our mouths in those positions, tall, open wide, and upper teeth exposed. Unfortunately, most of us are more concerned about how we look than about how we sound. It is wonderful that these boys are following the directions of their director and teacher.
wackojacko357.. YOU are calling THEM retarded.. you can't even construct a grammatical sentence... and you've made a spelling mistake. Let's just say you're too DUMB to appreciate what they are doing. Uneducated twit.
As far as I know, this was a parents concert..They were still learning the pieces...It was just a practice..They need to start early too achieve perfection when they are 12-15...
These 2 boys look very young. The piece seems to be too difficult for them. I don't see any sense to let children sing such difficult literature. They look (and sound) really stressed
They are young and were just practicing and performing for their parents...Sure, they were nervous It must be terrifying to start on the wrong note ...But they both kept singing and Paul came back and this a achievement even professional singers often can't do...The boy soprano voice has only a few years to develop, therefore they need to practice early...Fully developed they sound more then beautiful...
i can assure you that this is called concentration and not stress. the piece might be difficult but they weren't forced to sing in that choir so it's np
I had written for my cousin, who is the right one in the video but does not have an account here. I have no idea wether he got any video material. I also cannot answer the other questions. Sorry.
Ist ja süüüüüüüüüüüüüüüüüß, wenn die Kinder den Schnabel wie die Vögelchen öffnen und dabei auch noch ein schöner Ton herauskommt! :)
Stellenweise stürzt die zweite Stimme gar zu stark ein. Schade! - Trotzdem, da von Kindern gesungen, ist die Darbietung durchaus hörenswert! - "que de fausses notes" stimmt nicht!
This is a training exercise. Of course they look slightly terrified and bits and pieces will be less than perfect. So what! They're 'right up to snuff' for where they are in in their development cycle and in a couple of years they will be, as our American cousins say, "kicking ass"!
I heard this video was recorded in May 2005, and both the two soloists were really young there. they were just practising their singing skills in public, and even the greatest singers can make mistakes. Don't be too hard on them.
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hahaha!!! i'm sorry but they look so freaking hilarious! they make such horrible faces when they sing. they look like hungry baby chicks!! ... plus they never sang on key. they need more practice.
Oh my gosh, this is absolutly adorable! My girl's choir did this at Contest, but these two are impresssive! How old are these two at this performance? Absolutely wonderful, despite the few mess-ups!
It's really not fair to compare this parents' recital with the fully professional performance by the Polish Nightingales, since these two are obviously singing it in public for the first time. You have to admire Paul's courage in coming back strongly after blowing a couple of entrances in a row! I think I would have fled the scene myself! LOL!
I was thinking they were in the Repertory choir, which would have made them 8! But if they were in one of the younger choirs, they would have been 6 or 7! Regardless, they are very precocious, musically. But then, aren't all the Toelzerknaben?!
@RyanGolddRedux You are right, they are beginners. This has absolutely nothing to do with the professional level of the Tölz' Boys official touring choir!
Keine gute Idee, solche privaten Videos mit Auftritten der Ausbildungschöre auf youtube hochzuladen! Das führt zu Missverständnissen, wie u.a. der Kommentar von 33maxxx zeigt. Es handelt sich hier offensichtlich um noch kleine Nachwuchssänger, nicht um reife Solisten aus dem offiziellen Konzertchor des Tölzer Knabenchors. Letztere haben oft ein nahezu professionelles Niveau, sodass namhafte Dirigenten wie Karajan, Bernstein, Abbado und Harnoncourt immer wieder mit Tölzer Knaben gearbeitet haben.
leokassandra 2 months ago
poor boy :-)
newhotmailit 7 months ago
Hier 20 rote Daumen "hinzuknallen", ist für mich eine Unverschämtheit !!!
Toelzerfanclever 7 months ago 4
@Toelzerfanclever - Vergleichen Sie diese Aufnahme doch einmal mal mit der Aufnahme der Thomaner "Thomanerchor - Gloria (Vivaldi) Part 1" ab Minute 6:12, dann werden sie die vielen Negativbewertungen verstehen. Dieses Video hier zeigt wirklich keine besonders bemerkenswerte Leistung. Es fehlt jegliche Musikalität und die Intonation überzeugt nicht. Knabensolisten können das wesentlich besser als hier angeboten. Von der miseralen Videoqualität, die keine Entschuldigung ist ganz zu schweigen.
33maxxx 5 months ago
@33maxxx Zur "Videoqualität": Das Video wurde in 2006 hochgeladen. Damals gab es noch keine bessere technische Qualität auf YT, wenn ich mich nicht irre. Die zitierte Veröffentlichung auf dem channel von aquaria85 kenne ich wohl und stelle fest, dass es sich um eine "Slideshow" handelt. Die Thomaner sind tatsächlich besser. Das begründet m.E. aber nicht eine Abwertung der Darbietung der Tölzer durch 20 rote Daumen. Die Abwertung ist m.E. auch nicht durch den Vergleich zustande gekommen.
Toelzerfanclever 5 months ago
they're sooo adorable and are amazing singers, we are doing this song for my all girls choir and these boys can hit the notes that some of us cant hit, it's just amazing! good job guys!
britishjamz 9 months ago
these boys can sing higher than me...
britishjamz 9 months ago
I found it very funny when I was looking through the comments and saw that someone asked why the boys' lips we so open and forward in European choirs. That is called singing. You have to open your mouth to do that. I personally do not see that style of singing as much where I am located in the USA, but that doesn't mean it's just European choirs that do that.
littlelavender14 9 months ago 2
lolol? well i spent my childhood time singing excerpts like this in a very good musical school, and let me tell you - there is no possibibilty of distinguishing the voice of the girls (much more of us btw) and the boys at this age.
Xedome 1 year ago
They are so wonderful!! Yes, they have made some mistakes, but honestly, how old are they? 10? 11? younger? They have done wonderfully for their age. bravo.
MissPineapple98 1 year ago
these kids have done great for their age.. adults struggle to get this piece straight..(although this is the most simple vivaldi). so why not appreciate these children. and boy kids can sing this, why not? if in vivaldis t ime if boy kids could be castrated to keep this high tone as in women, why not these kids sing?... learn to apreciate talents. these kids sound so good. bravo bravo.. keep singing boys
TheVoiceforgod 1 year ago
These are such cute and brave boys. I couldn't get any of my kids to do that so young. I'm so proud of them
~a
AnnieofBlueGables 1 year ago
the only comment that I have is that this song is something girls should sing not little boys. that seems very odd to me and I was very uncomfortable watching it.
Sefardess 1 year ago
@Sefardess if singing Tolzers make you "very uncomfortable" may I suggest you never go outside and avoid most activities related to an active life.
iggyorangepop 9 months ago 2
su boca esta exagerada ...parecen peces y los peces no cantan.....
tato2470 1 year ago
We would all sing so much better if we would hold our mouths in those positions, tall, open wide, and upper teeth exposed. Unfortunately, most of us are more concerned about how we look than about how we sound. It is wonderful that these boys are following the directions of their director and teacher.
karenflutist 1 year ago
They are just cute and nervous.
HannaHannita 1 year ago
Awwwwww! So cute. I really hate it when people use the word retarded. It is discriminatory and offensive. Can't we all just be nice?
Snarah103 1 year ago 3
Aww I enjoyed this :)
NightShadeslayer 1 year ago
Bloody awful!!!
gharusa 1 year ago
Oops! Second boy missed a phrase! And they're both a little sharp at times, but other than that, very good!
CharlieBladeRemus 1 year ago
wackojacko357.. YOU are calling THEM retarded.. you can't even construct a grammatical sentence... and you've made a spelling mistake. Let's just say you're too DUMB to appreciate what they are doing. Uneducated twit.
ekofisk24j 1 year ago 4
@ekofisk24j
1. it wasnt a response to him (he will never know about your comment)
2. a singers face always looks retarded. its just natural (he just was alittle bit captain everybodyknowsitbutipostitanyways)
kleinesmaenchen 1 year ago
HAHAH there face looks fucking retarted
wackojacko357 1 year ago
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tritonusgesang 1 year ago
dont forget!! Haydn and Schubert started like them! they were in a 'Knabenchor'!!
aldiviolin 1 year ago
excelente coro toelzer
frater 1 year ago
I don't know a musician who never made a mistake in a concert.
Sometimes mistakes are so evident and sometimes tehy are not.
The most amazing is "to have guts" as that boy had. He stood firm there until he could get an entrance again.
rarems 2 years ago 5
is it a young Jörg Lehne you can see in the left corner around 0:27 ?
Zerlina12 2 years ago
Yes, i believe it's him
Emilmt 2 years ago
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laughne 1 year ago
@Zerlina12
It does look like him!
cabbalistic 1 year ago
Obviously too difficult for these two boys. The music seems to stand still instead of flow like it usually does.
dars2607 2 years ago
Pauvre tâche!
duss46 2 years ago
This is too cuteee!! ^,^
danyellow914 2 years ago 4
is there a y tube of this performance that does not abruptly cut off??
jpstenino 2 years ago
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poor boys - they look really stressed and under big pressure - not nice for them neither for the audiance!
33maxxx 2 years ago
As far as I know, this was a parents concert..They were still learning the pieces...It was just a practice..They need to start early too achieve perfection when they are 12-15...
Jairdan 2 years ago
These 2 boys look very young. The piece seems to be too difficult for them. I don't see any sense to let children sing such difficult literature. They look (and sound) really stressed
tuberkelbazillus 2 years ago
They are young and were just practicing and performing for their parents...Sure, they were nervous It must be terrifying to start on the wrong note ...But they both kept singing and Paul came back and this a achievement even professional singers often can't do...The boy soprano voice has only a few years to develop, therefore they need to practice early...Fully developed they sound more then beautiful...
Jairdan 2 years ago 5
i can assure you that this is called concentration and not stress. the piece might be difficult but they weren't forced to sing in that choir so it's np
zodcyborg 2 years ago 15
i'm so sorry for the kid who forgot the word....I must have been busted so bad
shcho114 2 years ago
The boy on the right (what's his name??) remains admirably calm after messing up. ;)
cabbalistic 2 years ago 3
Can anyone tell me why the boys in this choir and other European choirs sing with their lips forward like this? It does look strange.
chorister51 2 years ago
some singing teachers believe it helps projecting the voice.
derprinzgustavo 2 years ago 3
Hi question for the boy on the right,
is the boy on the left still in the choir?
I notice him in the group picture on the
Toelzerknabenchor website.
Thanks Wem for uploading the video.
DKS55 2 years ago
hi, I m the right one. I am not with the choir anymore. and yes, of course I was nervous and now I got my voice break or whatevewr you call that
regenbogenkrieger 2 years ago
Hi! And did you meet Robin Scholtz and alexander lichske?
Do you have videos of Tolzer's, to upload... Because people isn't uploading Tolzer's videos anymore...
patospunk 2 years ago
hello,
I had written for my cousin, who is the right one in the video but does not have an account here. I have no idea wether he got any video material. I also cannot answer the other questions. Sorry.
regenbogenkrieger 2 years ago
Thank you! xD
patospunk 2 years ago
preferisco le voci adulte per questo brano nonostante il grosso impegno e la professionalite dimostrat!!!!11
mugheddu 3 years ago
por dios
greensoulyeahyeah 3 years ago
Ist ja süüüüüüüüüüüüüüüüüß, wenn die Kinder den Schnabel wie die Vögelchen öffnen und dabei auch noch ein schöner Ton herauskommt! :)
Stellenweise stürzt die zweite Stimme gar zu stark ein. Schade! - Trotzdem, da von Kindern gesungen, ist die Darbietung durchaus hörenswert! - "que de fausses notes" stimmt nicht!
tritonusgesang 3 years ago
This is a training exercise. Of course they look slightly terrified and bits and pieces will be less than perfect. So what! They're 'right up to snuff' for where they are in in their development cycle and in a couple of years they will be, as our American cousins say, "kicking ass"!
chalkyness 3 years ago 6
yoooo so proo ! :)
Bab3girlX 3 years ago
They seem terrified!
But quite good, considering...
jadorehannah 3 years ago
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omg!!! check out their mouths...
JmejamzZz 3 years ago 3
they are good and have lovely voices but force their sound and sing extremely out of tune
aheura 3 years ago
Epic Voice Lessons were used in the making of this film. =]
Inky818 3 years ago
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lol are you kidding? the kid on the right forgets half of the beginning and doesn't sing his part...plus they look retarded
fraser311 3 years ago
They are NOT retarded, for your information.
I heard this video was recorded in May 2005, and both the two soloists were really young there. they were just practising their singing skills in public, and even the greatest singers can make mistakes. Don't be too hard on them.
Seddius 3 years ago 27
Singen diese "Jungs" (Buben) auch heute noch
bei den Tölzern ?
wskfan 3 years ago
If you read all the comments,5 pages'
maybe you find the answer.
orion8352 3 years ago
WHOA THEY ARE SO GOOD!!!
wHOA
good jobbbb
how old r they?
shogun132 3 years ago
que de fausses notes... :-S
tiphaine25111986 3 years ago
wow! they started off rocky, but they are SOOOOOOOOO good! And so young to be doing something this advanced!!!
littlefoxx25 3 years ago
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hahaha!!! i'm sorry but they look so freaking hilarious! they make such horrible faces when they sing. they look like hungry baby chicks!! ... plus they never sang on key. they need more practice.
greenozoid11 2 years ago
Thats sad
Zerlina12 3 years ago
I miss Leonhard.
laughne 3 years ago
Yeh. wht happend to him? Vociebreak?
Zerlina12 3 years ago
He left the choir before his voice breaks.
laughne 3 years ago
Why?
Emilmt 3 years ago
As far as I know, personal or familial choice.
laughne 3 years ago
Damnnnn Were singing this in my FRESHMAN chorus class and there better than me and im pretty damn good
owenemi 3 years ago
woah i sang this song in choir and just the 2 of them were louder than my whole choir..lol..
ncbaby80 3 years ago
They are not just good,
they are excellent, the very BEST!
Thanks for sharing!
buxig 4 years ago
You'r right! They really are the best !
Hans NL
qklq42 4 years ago
Ach so, they are choir 2! Ich kannte den Namen dieser Buben nicht, ich werde weiter nachforschen. Ich bewundere zutiefst den Tölzer Knabenchor!
tkbewunderin79 4 years ago
Oh my gosh, this is absolutly adorable! My girl's choir did this at Contest, but these two are impresssive! How old are these two at this performance? Absolutely wonderful, despite the few mess-ups!
EvenxInxDeath 4 years ago
How long ago was this, and how old are they now? Are they still in the choir?
DanishRoyalFan15 4 years ago
Perhaps before april 2005.
Leonhard left, I don't know for Paul.
But Jörg is always there (he is the one before the two soloists).
laughne 4 years ago
LOL ! poor soprano 2 ! he missed a note and let the soprano 1 by himself ^^ good job thaugh :)
merrymelodie 4 years ago
im in chorus at my school we sung this song its a very hard song to sing and they did really good to be so young
christiangirl7530 4 years ago
They are doing an excellent job! This is not easy! Lots of blood sweat and tears behind such a performance!
villageorganist 4 years ago 2
yea we have to sing this at our concert but its a whole chorus class but um ur good funny but good!
xolilgigglesxo 4 years ago
lol cute!! im singing the same song in choir x] but we're all girls
supershirleyx3 4 years ago
Oh My God. AWESOME! Ahahhaha! Im singing this in my choire and this is just too funny for me. XD
Kitteh 5 years ago
Yes, you have right Maestrovoci. This boys are good. And the song is not easy to sing.
Zerlina12 5 years ago
It's really not fair to compare this parents' recital with the fully professional performance by the Polish Nightingales, since these two are obviously singing it in public for the first time. You have to admire Paul's courage in coming back strongly after blowing a couple of entrances in a row! I think I would have fled the scene myself! LOL!
maestrovoci 5 years ago 4
Am I correct in thinking this is one of the beginner choirs instead of the touring choirs?
RyanGolddRedux 4 years ago
Although these boys are now in the top performing group, at the time this was videotaped, they were in the second (preparatory) choir.
maestrovoci 4 years ago
I was thinking they were in the Repertory choir, which would have made them 8! But if they were in one of the younger choirs, they would have been 6 or 7! Regardless, they are very precocious, musically. But then, aren't all the Toelzerknaben?!
jmontgomery7577 4 years ago
How can I have another opinion as the one of Maestro ? ;-)
I think it's no so easy to know how old is a boy knowing in which choir he is.
I believe that is choir 2 and the director is Ralf Ludewig.
laughne 4 years ago
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leokassandra 2 months ago
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@RyanGolddRedux You are right, they are beginners. This has absolutely nothing to do with the professional level of the Tölz' Boys official touring choir!
leokassandra 2 months ago
Not every tone right, but they are good
Zerlina12 5 years ago