Bush Administration feeding you 'Bull'

[AliOsmanYomra]

i cant watch this, it makes me so mad.

if i could make one wish i would wish for 3 min. in the ring with this pease of shit!!!!

killing one of the sons of lucifer would bring satisfaction to my heart and soul.

WHEN WILL THE KILLING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE STOP IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!

i cant take much more of this!!

[PRFrancis]

rofl tubeminded radical liberals in this chat thinks Bush is ''the devil, lucifer, evil, an idiot [even though he graduated from Yale] and a cereal killer].

Look up the info thorowghly and dont dismiss something with ignorance.

Bush's cabine imo got in the war a little too quikly, everyone wanted him to do something about Sept 11, he did [well his advisors told him to].

His cabinet where mostly economists, 9/11 was a surprice [unless you think he did that too ROFL LOL ROFL!!!].

[Sergio022s]

the idiot! how can he make jokes about such a serious issue? so many families have been affected by this war and this guy makes jokes with the press...fratboy cowboy behavior for such an issue and then we want the world to like us? jesus.

[CYLONEJACK]

Bush said he was angry about the WMD intelligence on the CNN interview. He lies to everyone's face and then laughs, he has a mind set of a serial killer.

[helvetica777]

Bush is A Pussyfuck!, Bush eats NWO'S Butt!. Fuck Bush that wicked warmonger!.

[G5F4D3S2A1]

Americans think the danger is terrorism. They don't understand that Terrorists cannot take away habeus corpus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution. Terrorists cannot suspend the constitutional gov't, abolish the separation of powers. TERRORISM CANNOT PICK US UP, SHUT US UP, OR ARREST US. The threat of terrorism is nothing like the threat of our own gov't in the name of fighting terrorism.

- Paul Craig Roberts "the Father of Reaganomics" oh and Ron Paul 2008!

[unett]

Ron Paul all the way!

[Sergio022s]

yes but that does not eliminate the threat. i agree with the gov't's attitute but the truth and the matter is 9/11 may be repeated quite easy.

[DrLight9]

bush loves wmd

[Gazeboman]

Whenever anybody says "It hurts the troops" when arguing with people who are against the war, you really have to leave the discussion. To disagree with the war does not mean you are a liberal, it's not anti-American, it's not against the troops....IT'S NOT A RIGHT OR LEFT ISSUE! Or at least it shouldn't be. Wake up and smell the false left/right paradigm.

[311Transistor311]

My buddy pulled that shit on me. I told him that going to war due to a lie and killing +500,000 Iraqis while losing +3000 of our kids hurts all americans. And this asshole laughs about wmd's not being there, fucker. Our buddy lost one of his legs in an attack...shameful.

[voloverum]

Why must you leave the discussion? Is it really that far fetched to think that being part of the anti-war crowd hurts our efforts in the war and therefor hurts the troops? Is that such an outlandish claim that you can't even respond to it? Or do you just not like to hear the truth? I don't care if you call yourself a liberal or a conservative or whatever. The fact is that I can't get ANYBODY to refute my statements about the antiwar movement being harmful to the troops and their mission.

[phoenixshade3]

You are the one alleging that the "antiwar movement" is "harmful to the troops." The onus is on you to prove your statement with evidence, not on those opposed to the war. What possible mechanism is there by which protesters here hurt the troops there? We want to bring them home, where they will be far, far safer. If you ask me, it's those who SUPPORT the war who endanger our troops, and THAT connection is obvious.

Statement refuted.

[voloverum]

As I have already stated it bolsters enemy moral while undermining the moral of our military. This is a fact that has historical evidence to back it up, most notably with the Vietnam antiwar movement. Moral is essential for safe and effective military operations. Lower moral equals higher casualties, plain and simple.

[phoenixshade3]

That "moral" tripe (by the way, it's spelled MORALE) is nothing but a bullshit neo-con talking point.

As I said, prove the connection. Simply asserting it and claiming vaguely that there is "historical evidence" is not proof. In case you don't know it, military personnel in Iraq don't see the protesters. The news they get is censored, as it was in Vietnam.

Proof that the pro-war movement kills our troops: The pro-war idiots put them there. If they weren't there, they wouldn't be dying.

[voloverum]

Well, as an Iraq war vet I can guaran-fucking-tee you that morale is not just a talking point, that the troops DO know about the protestors, that they ARE concerned how much they are supported by our country, and that they can and will win. They don't want your protection. They want you to sit down, shut up, and stay they fuck out of their way.

Statement fully fucking refuted!

[phoenixshade3]

Nope, it is not refuted. Just because you were in Iraq one doesn't make you an expert.

Iraq I was at least justifiable. Iraq II is absolutely not. NO WMDs. NO NUCLEAR PROGRAM. NO LINKS TO TERRORISM (until we created the atmosphere for it).

You didn't refute shit, you just presented your ANECDOTAL story as fact. I know quite a few reservists who were sent to Iraq (some for more than one tour,) and almost ALL of them are against this fucking war for oil.

[voloverum]

I never claimed to be an expert, but you wanted proof that morale is not just a talking point, and if an eye witness account is good enough for a court of law it's enough for a youtube forum. I like how you change the subject though. I said the anti-war movement is bad for the troops, you said prove it, I did, and suddenly we're in a discussion about the cause of the war. Does that mean you concede on the point we were discussing?

[phoenixshade3]

If you even bothered to read my last post instead of jerking off to Fox "News" (or whatever it is you do when you're not ranting about "liberals"), you'd know I didn't concede anything.

You didn't give me an eyewitness account. You were in Gulf War I, a completely different animal than the war of CONQUEST for OIL that we're engaged in now.

On the other hand, I DID give you an eyewitness account. I know four people who are there now. Only ONE of them supports the war.

[voloverum]

Uh, no I am not a Persian Gulf war vet I am an Iraq war vet. I don't know why you think that. You seem to be confused. Furthermore your "eyewitness account" has nothing to do with my central point. Regardless of your friends opinion on the validity of the war I am sure they would agree that many troops are concerned about how they are viewed by the anti-war crowd, and that this concern affects their morale.

[rampagexxx]

I have a cousin in Iraq. It's time to bring him home, that's the best way to support the troops.

[christeezie]

volverum its idiots like you that get nazi's like bush in power in the first place! you think just because your ignorant ass was out there on the frontline that gives you some insight that others dont have. youve been brainwashed and its really sad. its not that hard to understand that the best way to support our troops is to bring them home alive! i wish you would have died out there so there would be one less idiot in this hopeless, joke of a democracy..

[voloverum]

Hmmm. Somebody has some pent up aggression. Listen, all I said is that I have seen firsthand how the antiwar movement affects morale and that I have seen firsthand how low moral makes it less likely for the troops to get home safe. I think it is strange that you fail to understand that we have an all volunteer military, which means they don't want you to rescue them.

[scottcherest]

"I think it is strange that you fail to understand that we have an all volunteer military, which means they don't want you to rescue them. "

If that is the case then what do you care if people are protesting the actions that you are engaged in?

[beaverdriller65]

i will not sit down i will not shut up and i will get in the way

[Echdrum]

Well said Gazeboman.

[labradog111]

Impeach this asshole.

[Gazeboman]

Yep, well all know it....but they have worked hard become such evil bastards and they will not want to give it up. New "Terror" attacks is their get out of jail card and I feel it's coming - and soon.

[m2diggs]

@labradog111 fuck that!!! he deserves to live the remainder of his life in a 9 by 9 cell with a cellmate named Tiny stealing his anal virginity!

[azncowman]

read dis

There are 20 angels in this world

10 are sleeping

9 are playing

1 is reading this

[StumpTrainedMule]

We need a constitutional amendment requiring ALL candidates for President of the United States be required to take an intelligence test as well as a mental health test. That would have prevented both the idiot W. Bush and that senile old prick Reagan from ruining our great nation and causing the entire world to hate Americans.

[voloverum]

Liberals claim that because we didn't find WMDs they didn't exist. By that logic Bin Laden doesn't exist. We haven't found him yet, so he's not real. Also that means human evolution is a lie because we can't seem to find a missing link (and we've been looking for that for a hundred years).

[wiskawind]

Hay Bin Laden is a Arab, isn't he? And Bush is friends with the Arabs, right? Maybe Bush is looking in the wrong places for ol' Ben? (smile)

[voloverum]

So all Arabs are the cut from the same cloth? By your "logic" either all Arabs are enemies like Bin Laden, or Bin Laden is an ally like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. You seem to have a very simplistic and childish view of the world.

[legionaire2005]

People!!!! if you want to be truly inform on what's really going on in the world!!! then listen to people like Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell, and David Icke. You can watch their videos on Youtube. You will learn about symbolism, occults, the 2012 mystery, and a number of topics from history and now."I do not mind being called a conspiracy theorist by those who don't mind being called coincidence theorists." By John Judge.

[uboslav]

what a filthy nazi piece of shit. wake up americans forget muslim anything, the real problem is the corrupt fkn bush administration, any american who thinks otherwise is a mindless puppet. just a hurting society, fuck i am glad i am not part of the so called land of the free, where they tell you what to think .

[MrPrivateBrowser]

I wonder how many of those who oppose the war now would be the first to whine like a baby, when and if we ran out and the Muslims took power.

[ums2]

you are an idiot. "muslims took power" these people are not muslims. They are just using the religion for their gain.  Learn something about the religion before you comment on its people.

[givebirthathome]

There were many different profiteering reasons for the war. One law Paul Bremer foisted on the Iraqi people for example, was to promote a market advantage for genetically modified(ie. corporate controlled) food.

[IAMASCREENNAME]

nazi

[Teabone3]

Bush is insane. He even makes fun of the fake hunts yet people died during that... HIS OWN PPL including our own here in Canada.

[wwwPNACATTACKcom]

1 160 000

[wwwPNACATTACKcom]

HE IS 1000% NAZI AND WAR CRIMINAL

[Micky777]

Americans should hang their heads in shame and pray to God for mercy for even allowing this lunatic a chance at being 'the most powerful man in the world' let alone giving him the job twice.

[WNanette]

micky777

WE didn't elect him.

Love you too.

[buffav]

GEORGE W. NIGGER COCKSUCKER.

[WNanette]

Nice language, there buffy

[eckzr]

rich people party

and they are all laughing -_-"

[frenzy99]

america has an asshole for a president.

[wwwPNACATTACKcom]

THEY HAVE HAD THOSE 65-more years

[soundslikefrank]

How much will he charge for speaking engagements when he's FINALLY out of office???

[critter2]

rppolying he the president he has the right he could come into your house and just take something form you. beacsue he would get away with it. but this is not joke there are WMD

[podigdug]

Are you a 'tard?

[wwwPNACATTACKcom]

THERE WERE NEVER WMD's AND THERE IS OFFICIAL TESTIMONY OF THAT

[Gazeboman]

Your right, I know the whole CFR/BILDERBERG/BOHEMIEN GROUP are a bunch of evil, twisted criminals. When are more people going to start to really read about this stuff in detail? The 9/11 inside job should be obvious to everyone....it's plain as day!

[MikeT2005]

CFR? Council for Foreign Relations? Evil? Twisted?

You've been reading too much TruthWars.

[rpppolyp]

Okay, and it's okay for Bush to make a real insulting joke... the media gaffaw to it, and yet they pants-poop/pee over and obvious gaffe by Kerry directed at Bush... not the troops. To the repugs that will respond, where's your righteous indignation over that BLATANT joke at the expense of the troops?

[Gazeboman]

Well said. Although most people won't actually be able to make that sort of judgement, especially those within the mainstream media. However, every comment made on the video clip shows that there are actually a growing number of good people who know a bunch of lying war criminals when they see them.

[dreamkast0r]

George W. Bush: An Arrogant Cunt

[jurassicpork]

Treat or treat.

[knottednoodles]

who are you people? this is OUR PRESIDENT!

I support him! He is the commander in... in...

aw shit what an arrogant cunt.

[spscwby944]

LOL

[MKB2814]

That little joke speaks volumes of what an evil little prick he is. Him and all his devout supporters!

[thezenfly]

I would just like to second JobDDT's comment:

What an arrogant cunt.

[colin164]

he's a coward and a liar.imagine him in iraq.he'd be crying for his daddy after 20 minutes

[JobDDT]

What an arrogant cunt.

[RoninGutts]

rockafeller the rich guy is the most arrogant by far and away.

[SlydeInfinityUK]

I always wonder why the SAS are in Iraq driving around with plastic explosives and shooting at Iraqi police too? They could never hope to infiltrate insurgent groups being white.

It stinks of covert operation Northwood style tactics.

Still no enquiry or provost action either.

[SlydeInfinityUK]

I don't recall the Security Council endorsing it and there is still no proof of an IMMEDIATE threat needed to legally justify invasion, like the removal of possible thermite evidence from the ground zero crime scene before examination. Terrorists are,nt legal combatants so how can a terrorist attack be assessed to be an act of war.It seems the UN international peacekeeping role has decayed into brutish gangwar.

[cpp1]

Gazeboman, I'll just acknowledge your point, because I know the feeling of telling something that's palpably autrocious not getting the proper response. I agree that Bush is horrible for making WMD's THE main point for going to Iraq (for doubters: see his state of the union addresses in 2002-2003) then subsiquently joking about not finding any.

[Gazeboman]

Yeah, thanks...It's worrying to me that Bush and his even worse Administration are still the guys having the last laugh at all of us. When the next major justification for war is thrown upon us I'm affraid that most people will just lie down and take it instead of paying attention to the ever spinning lies.

[voloverum]

So everyone else can make jokes but not him? If no one else was joking about it than he would be wrong to make jokes. But to say that everyone else can joke but he can't because you don't like him is a double standard

[ottoskidoo]

joke? while our troops are losing limb and life because this lying idiot sent them to a bullshit war? yes, i bet the troops thought this was a laff riot.

[voloverum]

Why don't you go ask them, oh wait, you can't while sitting in your lazy-boy playing armchair general as you watch the news about Iraq and use your well developed sense of hindsight to say "We should have done things differently" I can guarantee you the troops are more pissed about the left wing loonies who think they are murderers, and just as pissed at the moderate left wingers who tell them day after day that they are incompetent high school dropouts who should just give up and go home.

[ottoskidoo]

tell that to pat tillman's family.

[voloverum]

I'm not sure what that has to do with the opinions of our men and women in uniform, but I find it interesting that the only veteran you can name is one who is famous for playing football.

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum Where do you get off speaking for the troops? I haven't heard any liberals call them murderers. That is right in line with you Right Extremists saying if you don't support the war you are anti-troop! What is it with you people? I think you have taken the bumper sticker, "He who tells the best lie wins," a little too seriously. BTW I think moderate left wingers is oxy-moron.

[voloverum]

Have you ever spoken with anyone who has served in the military? If you have never heard our troops being slandered by the left, check out the comments made by John "abscam" Murtha regarding the Marines in the Haditha incident, and he's a Senator! Also where do you get off calling me an extremist? And I don't know how many times I've had to explain this, antiwar is antitroops. It aids the enemy, like it did in Vietnam, and it has a horrible affect on Military moral, sounds antitroop to me!

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum Why don't you take your half baked BS and go over to some right wing forum where you have solidarity in numbers. I have two nephews over there and the son of my best friend. They highly disagree with you and have some real horror stories to tell. In fact the one in special forces is going to write a book about the corruption he has seen by this government. Surprise surprise!

[voloverum]

Also, I just found out Obama said all we are doing in Iraq is "air-raiding villages and killing civilians". How can the left claim to support the troops when it is led by people who say things like this? BTW moderate left winger is not an oxymoron, grammar nazi, moderate means not extreme and oxymoron is not hyphenated.

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum What do you mean by left winger nazi??? Can you not think of anything other than correcting oxymoron?? Busy goggling, huh? A little lesson for you here: Repubs, right of the middle/ moderate is duh right wing meaning extremist. Demos, from moderate/middle to the left is what you people call liberal. Is this too hard for you or are you making up your own rules here like Bush? And BTW right and left wing are not new, it originated in Europe but do not have the same meaning here.

[JakiiRSM]

You right extremists get so pissed at everyone who doesnt agree with you. I don't hear you responding to all the lies pouring out of your administrations mouths in these videos. Again, you are in the wrong forum. Go where somebody buys your BS.

[voloverum]

Why don't I go to a right wing forum? Because I see no progress in people sitting around agreeing with each other, sharing and hearing conflicting viewpoints is important to me. Your nephews have every right to disagree with me as do you, I am sure they HAVE seen some horrible things, but in your 3 responses to me you failed to address the 2 main points I made 1. troops don't like being called murderers and 2. antiwar rhetoric aids the enemy and hinders our military.

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum Look, the problem here is that there are people within my party that I disagree with, as I am sure you experience the same in yours. So please leave it at that. I get the distinct impression you are not here to learn anything but, in fact, to disrupt and argue your points, which obviously many disagree with. You need to stop assuming people here are of narrow mind, and not educated to facts. I have been in Right forums and find them extremely closed minded and nasty.

[voloverum]

Ok we both agree that people within the same political party can disagree with each other, you seem to think that it is impossible to subdivide the parties any further while I disagree, ok I can leave it at that. That topic is officially over. I fail to see how I am disrupting anything though, comments would be kind of pointless if everyone completely agreed.

[voloverum]

I didn't assume PEOPLE are narrow minded I assumed YOU are narrow minded, even though I respond to your arguments, you continue to avoid responding to mine, specifically my belief that anti war rhetoric is harmful to the troops, now I can only come up with two reasons you avoid this issue 1 you're narrow minded and don't think about the points others make 2 you actually want to harm the military but don't want people to know. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by choosing the first one

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum Only narrow minded when it comes to people like you. You are stuck on troops and winning an unwinnable war. Debating my view points regarding this tragedy in Iraq with you is unproductive. You will give me nothing, so where do you get off with that you will give me the benefit of the doubt comment? You are obviously a control freak and not worth debating. Oh, I am 100% behind the troops, bring em home! I am not here for a debate as you are, but only discussion.

[voloverum]

Shame on me for caring about the troops and not wanting the entire middle east to dissolve into chaos, I agree that it is unproductive for you to debate with me because you ignore everything I say and continue to rant about the same things over and over. You bring nothing new to the discussion other than insults.

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum I have no desire to debate with you. I have told you this over and over. Get lost! You are not American first, you are Republican first!

[voloverum]

for someone that doesn't want to debate me, you sure spend a lot of time debating me. I am not even a republican, your just making assumptions.

[voloverum]

So you're only narrow minded with people you disagree with, and you're open minded with people you agree with. That's a pretty useless. How do you know this war is unwinnable? Are you an expert on military history? Or are you simply repeating what you have heard from other left wingers? For someone who supports the troops you sure have little confidence in them.

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum go away! You are very abusive. I really know better than to get into discussions like this with your kind. What is it you are searching for here? I am read, and educated so why share my viewsf with you as it would be useless. Go back to your Faux News and quit bothering me.

[voloverum]

How am I bothering you? You're the one that chooses to come to this website and read the opinions of people you might disagree with.

[voloverum]

I am abusive? I called you narrow minded because you admit you don't like to hear opinions you disagree with. You have called me a control freak, uneducated, laughable, and arrogant. all this while continuing to avoid the central issue I have put forth since we began our discussion THE ANTIWAR MOVEMENT HURTS THE TROOPS.

[voloverum]

The nazi comment had nothing to do with your political beliefs, rather your mistaken attempt to correct the language I used, thats why I called you a "grammar nazi" At the risk of beating a dead horse here is what I meant one more time, moderate means not extreme, so a moderate left winger is less left wing than a radical left winger and a moderate right winger is less right wing than a radical right winger. It seems obvious to me and I don't understand why we are arguing about this.

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum WE are not arguing about this, you are!

[voloverum]

I'm not pissed, I enjoy a debate because I think it is a good way to gather facts and viewpoints and get closer to the truth, which is what some people want, obviously this is not your goal as you have repeatedly told me to go away and refuse to acknowledge any of my points. I believe you have made up your mind, and are afraid of anything that might challenge or disagree with your narrow view of things.

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum Did I leave out arrogant? You are assuming I do not read and research facts. The discussions in this forum are in regard to the videos, so unless you have something to say regarding them I do suggest you leave. I, BTW, think you have a very narrow viewpoint.

[voloverum]

Well you're assuming that I'm assuming you don't research, see that argument is kind of pointless because everything we know about each other is just from our posts, for example, by reading my posts it is apparent that my highest priority is winning the war and keeping the troops safe, and it seems from your posts that your highest priority is a toss up between bossing people around, never having to hear an opposing viewpoint, and bringing down Bush

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum You are laughable indeed. I will quote you... "I enjoy a debate because I think it is a good way to gather facts and viewpoints and get closer to the truth, which is what some people want, obviously this is not your goal" So I shall say it again, you are assuming facts are not my goal!

[voloverum]

Well unfortunately debating liberals I get a whole lot of viewpoints but hardly any facts to back it up. I don't believe that fact are your goal, if they were you might take notice to facts like 1. Democrats keep calling our men and women in uniform murderers 2. Every antiwar movement is counterproductive to the safety of the troops.

[JakiiRSM]

voloverum Get over yourself! In case you haven't looked lately, a huge percentage of Americans want out of Iraq. You do not listen, but I will repeat, people ARE for the troops, they want them out of the hell hole! Please do not direct any more of your BS to me.

[stefanswe]

He still is the president, when he jokes, millions see it, not when you or I do it

[Focoist911]

You joke about the WMDs?

[cpp1]

When I look at what's happening today, I can't help but have a feeling of deja vu. From the U.S.S. Maine to U.S.S. Lusitania to Pearl Harbor to the Korean War to the U.S.S. Pueblo to the Gulf of Tonkin to WaterGate to the Iranian Revolution to the Iranian hostage crisis to Iran-Contra affair to 1st gulf war to Somalia to 9/11 to Afghanistan to Iraq. These are just a few of the wars/conflicts the U.S. has been involved in, which are suspicious of foul play.

[r3ynol4]

OMG, i can't believe this guy won election twice.

[RickRude4u2]

it was rigged...

[Thrashaero]

and even had they not been rigged, we get buffoons like Gore and Kerry....no real choice to begin with.

[strategyminded]

That's the lie. That Kerry and Gore were terrible candidates so "they" blew it. When elections are rigged, and excuse is a good one.

[cpp1]

gore has character, but he's not able to look like it, e.g. the "i invented the internet" thing. Kerry is just a plain buffoon.

[dvheil]

How is it that with comments and information like this, there are still people in this country that support this man. How can Bush talk about something that resulted in so many deaths with such a cavalier attitude when he claims to be a man of God. This is no man of God...he is an ignorant coward.

[Gazeboman]

Exactly!...A war that has cost the American people a wasted $307,017,145,346 so far and has killed upwards of 150,000, even maybe 250,000 Iraqi civilians.

It should be that he and his fellow key Administration criminals are rotting in a jail cell by now but I fear that there's more horrible things from them to come in the coming months.