The tempo he choices to interpret the fugue makes me feel as there are no hammers in a piano but voices of a choir... Imagine.. How could this fugue sound, sung by a choir?...
You've picked, I think, one of... no... THE greatest interpretation of the Bk 1 C sharp Minor p and f currently available on CD! Go listen to all the others out there, folks. Interpretations like this gives meaning to the claim (often made) that this guy is the greatest pianist of all time. That old Bosendorfer never spoke like this!
in a Goodwill (second-hand) store I found a 30-year-old cassette of Richter playing the first part of WTC-1. For 50 cents. Through the noise on the tape you can still hear the notes, clear like bells in the distance. It sounds even more haunting than perfect sound quality
When I hear Richter playing Bach I feel that the world stops and that there is no time, unecessary sound. Richter playing Bach feels to me like the whole universe is involved and that there is a strong sense of completeness and grandness and majestical yet not 'grandiosso' .
I agree with lyubomirgt that the tempo here is right on. When it's done too fast, I believe the interdependence, especially of the two fugal themes, get's lost. I also agree that on the whole the sustain seems excessive. However, there are places toward the last half where the themes are difficult to emphasize without seeming choppy, and having the sustain help with those areas makes it seem reasonable for sake of consistency to keep it throughout that section rather than come in and out.
One of my favorite fugues by the Master!!! Great performance, this is the real tempo of the fugue, giving the player a better opportunity to underline its two themes and the movement of the voices, and not played like an etude the way Gould performed it. The only thing I didn't really like here is the excessive use of the sustain pedal, which blurred the voices imho, but I guess Richter was trying to recreate church acoustics, suggesting even more sacred and deeper meaning. I love Bach!
3 dislikes.... what the hell is wrong with people nowa days.... how could someone hate this...... the very loud music of today is making people musically deaf !!
Glenn Gould was all about himself. His music-making was striking, but it was all about his ego. The music was an instrument to illuminate his personality. He never subordinated himself to the music. Richter goes into the subtext.
Whenever I listen Richter playing I have the sensation that I listen a music lesson with the a great teacher that explain me the very esence of music.
I didn't realize how rushed my own choice of tempo was until I listened to Richter. His pacing is dictated by clarity; if not all the voices are distinct then it is too fast. There is a timelessness in this performance that has strongly impacted me. My thanks for posting this treasure.
@Irshkboy I have to agree. I have a mother from the Soviet Union (who plays piano). When a "true Russian" performs one imagines them singing on a cold day with snow on the ground crunching under the feet of those passing by with their chins hidden in their jackets...
Richter's emotion and atmosphere is very rich and deep. On the other hand, Gould has a very sharp musical appreciation on every notes and chords of Bach.
We all hear what we wish to - it's entirely subjective that a playing style imbues us all with a singular emotional response. Bach was a religious man and, to me, something spiritual comes through in the notes. But I am irritated and bored by the constant use that individuals, seeking argument and discord, make of Bach and his God and make of the interpreters of his music. Technical comment is appropriate but this provocation and retaliation is reminiscent of a school playground.
Bach's music was 'For the glory of God and refreshment of the soul of man'. A nominal atheist playing Bach may be a subversive way to communicate this glory. Only God knows. soli Deo Gloria
I think , that it is necessary for interpreter to find the same love and tenderness to the brother, that Bach felt during the composition of this play.
Bach loved the God which loved people, his music is filled by the Christ.
Richter loves the MAN more than music, and Gould loves music more than MAN.....It is a big difference.
What I've found in Richter's playing (no need to look at his biography) is that Richter loved music above all, he lived for music so did Bach and Gould definitly.
The difference between RIchter and Gould is just your personal appreciation, it's subjective, personal. The sum of all expressions give us only a conventional parameter. Under that point of view, Richter surpasses definitly Gould
blablabla. that must be the ultimate rationalisation of style: the creator of the universe is behind it all. take your god somewhere else and leave my music alone.
@JoePassIsMyIdol I have changed the opinion. Richter and Gould - everyone brings individual note in music, but Richter surpasses, because he has more interests to spiritual trues and compassion( highest purposes in person).
He spoke surprisingly about Maria Yudina :"Whether you know : how wonderfully she reads verses of Pasternak! But, in fact, she absolutely does not have teeth". Richter - the great man.
@tzeleustremlennost: richter's intepretations are disciplined and (in richter's own words) "the interpreter should just do his best to follow what the composer really wrote" , thus accepting the composers will and expressing what the music for itself meant. If your listen to gould's repertoire you'll find his interpretations are full of self-imposed mannerisms, it seems he is desperate of making the music about himself, that's why he's good but not great
@tzeleustremlennost Jesus said judge not lest ye be judged". The spirit of the music does not recognize your subjective, comparitive analysis. The real difference between Bach and Gould & Richter is, they bring Bach's music to life, through transforming written manuscripts into audible sound. Stop judging and start listening to Gods messengers of music, Gould & Richter.
@tzeleustremlennost You shouldn't dare to guess what richter loves or loves not. He's not here anymore to say what he thinks or feels, so we must simply shut and absorb what he left
@tzeleustremlennost : sorry -but Richter only loved music, he once said he played only for himself and also that everything in life was so difficult, except for music.
Read his biography and see "The Enigma", also on YouTube.
@tzeleustremlennost Gould performed with his spirit inside and because of that he almost didn't played bach. Richter plays almost the same way but inside the rules, that don't changes nothing cause prelude and fugue when written didn't meant to be played that way and If somebody hears it seems from gould something comtemporary and from richter something from romantic period.
@tzeleustremlennost Glenn Gould was all about himself. His music-making was striking, but it was all about his ego. The music was an instrument to illuminate his personality. He never subordinated himself to the music. Richter goes into the subtext.
@tzeleustremlennost What a humanist approach to Bach. Stark contrast to the austerity of Glen Gould. Did he find solace and expression for his unfulfilled personal life in his music?
@francescaemc2, unfortunately, it's not on Youtube except as part of an interview. Analekta has a CD of Rameau's Pieces de Clavecin en Concert with Luc Beausejour as the harpsichordist. If you want to hear great music, I would suggest that. Or you could buy Marie-Claire Alain's last recording of all the Bach organ works. And then there's Scott Ross's recording of the Bach partitas. Oh my....what a treat.
@francescaemc2, Scott Ross playing the Bach partitas is something you can find on Youtube. Marie-Claire Alain's last Bach organ recordings, however, are not on Youtube.
Richter at his very best. I just love his punctuation; especially at this tempo. The subtlety within the exaggeration---it took me a while to understand this performance (months). I hope I'm not ruining it for anyone.
sorry (people seem always to take a comment so immediately personally - sheesh)I simply find Gould more "awake" on this issue......as I said before, the prelude I found sensitive but the thread of the fugue was simply drawn out far too long....but any "intelligent " counter-comment is welcome.
"The interpreter is really an executant, carrying out the composer's intentions to the letter. He doesn't add anything that isn't already in the work. If he is talented, he allows us to glimpse the truth of the work that is in itself a thing of genius and that is reflected in him. He shouldn't dominate the music, but should dissolve into it." So if you have a problem take it up with Bach's ghost and not with Ricther's.
that's what one would "ideally" wish in an interpreter....but the problem immediately arises in the piano as executing instrument - richter obviously thought bach would have used the sustain pedal, etc.....on and on.
my opinion is simply: gould and bach make the composer's intention clearer, basta. as to gould and mozart´(or most other composers), no.
perhaps pianists should try to limit their archive of recordings....neither of these pianists had any self-control here.
this the 4th prelude and fugue out of the 24 that compiles this masterpiece which is the WTC written by one of the greatest of them all, the Leipzig Kantor, Johann Sebastian Bach, written for study purposes it turn out to be a colossal work, published during the XIX century not while the author was alive
"Note that in Bach's time, compositions could circulate in manuscript and be copied by hand, which sometimes amounted to publication, for example the Well-Tempered Clavier was considered "published" in this fashion years before it was printed the first time (all long before copyright even existed)."
-Wikipedia
I'm pretty sure Beethoven played the WTC at recitals quite often throughout his childhood, which would at very least make it the XVIII century...
Numerous copies of Bach's works were made by students & colleagues DURING his lifetime. Already before 1750 some of his works were available in Austria, Italy, France & England. In April 1750, the famous Padre Martini (who taught Mozart and J.C.Bach) wrote "[Sig. Bach] is thoroughly known and admired not only in Germany but throughout our Italy...I think it would be difficult to find someone in the profession would could surpass him...he could rightfully claim to be among the 1st in Europe."
Mozart was well-acquainted with WTC and AoF. In 1782 he arranged for strings 5 fugues from WTC and AoF.
In 1783 a magazine article reported that the 11-year old Beethoven played most of WTC and "anyone who knows this collection of preludes and fugues in all the keys...will know what that means."
When Beethoven came to Vienna in 1792, it was his superb playing of WTC that first established his reputation there.
Richter reste décidément mon pianiste préféré! pour moi, l'écouter est un bonheur sans limite! En plus, il est très complet, il joue tous les répertoires magnifiquement! Le plus grand!!!! Surtout dans le "Wohltemperierte Klavier" de Bach
You hit the nail right on the head, Ecthelon. Not just this, but all Richter's Bach sounds like it is being played on organ, and especially the WTC. Even the acoustics of this recording is the one of a church.
Sure, truecrypt, and that is where the church acoustics is coming from :-) This particular recording was criticized by many reviewers for its sound, which they claimed to be not piano-like, without realizing the recordings intent. But the acoustics adds little to this organ impression, as I always have it, listening to Richters Bach, including his other WTC recordings, from the concert hall.
In fact the recording was made in a castle (Schloss Klessheim near Salzburg) in August/September 1972 and February 1973. And yes, he played on a Bösendorfer.
Evokes all at once a sense of absolute loss and absolute absolution, an ethereal ambivalence so painful and so beautiful it has to eat itself not to starve.
Everything Richter plays sounds magical and very quiet. If you listen through all his pieces from WTC you will awake after 3 hours and feel like gonna sleep more.
nutcase. The fact that four notes at the beginning happen to resemble a crosse to YOU, just totally covers up for the whole fact that the entire composition is utterly amazing. Pitiful.
I think that Bach in Hands of this genius man is more philosophical journey in the matter and substance but in the hands of Gould is transcendence though the universe....
I know a guy who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man that studied with BACH!
heh. Theres this book, i remember reading there that everyone, through friends of friends of friends etc...knows, like, every 5th person in the world. its amazing.
no me ha acabado de gustar esta version. A partir de compas 59 casi todas las apariciones del tema 1 las hace demasiado fuerte, en especial en el climax de compas 100. Retarda demasiado pronto, en 110, y demasiado, para compas 112 y 113 ya va lentisimo
There is a 2 MASTER - Interpreters of BACH's keybord works in the Globe: WAS and STILL so far ...In west Globe - Gould, In East Globe - Richter( 1 detale: Richters range of performed composers was rather wide )
yes,i fully agree with u. im a fan of gould, but here, like elsewhere in bach, richter has more to say with his beautiful sound. I can only remember 2 or 3 pieces of his bach that didnt amaze me
I agree, richter, while not exactly a fantastic bach interpreter (imo), is very convincing here. Together with goulds one of my favourite recordings of this fugue.
Richter not only makes a point of interest of the gestural-connectivity...like the others excepting Gould...but creates interest in the motif itself.Richter's my favorite here.
Moving...
emmanuelsott 1 month ago
The tempo he choices to interpret the fugue makes me feel as there are no hammers in a piano but voices of a choir... Imagine.. How could this fugue sound, sung by a choir?...
lampwithbulb2 1 month ago
@lampwithbulb2
uh, Bach wrote Cantate each week, Masses and Oratori: had he wanted this to be sung by a choir, he would have written it for a choir.
francescaemc2 1 week ago
You've picked, I think, one of... no... THE greatest interpretation of the Bk 1 C sharp Minor p and f currently available on CD! Go listen to all the others out there, folks. Interpretations like this gives meaning to the claim (often made) that this guy is the greatest pianist of all time. That old Bosendorfer never spoke like this!
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I found it as notes and then i made it with a music notation program
Enlightenment82 1 month ago
in a Goodwill (second-hand) store I found a 30-year-old cassette of Richter playing the first part of WTC-1. For 50 cents. Through the noise on the tape you can still hear the notes, clear like bells in the distance. It sounds even more haunting than perfect sound quality
katiush65 2 months ago
Incredible.
edhastie 3 months ago
When I hear Richter playing Bach I feel that the world stops and that there is no time, unecessary sound. Richter playing Bach feels to me like the whole universe is involved and that there is a strong sense of completeness and grandness and majestical yet not 'grandiosso' .
gkollias14 3 months ago 5
@gkollias14 yes
guscaldas2 3 months ago
The best of the best.
broodsable 4 months ago in playlist Liked
nice
KyougetsuYoru 5 months ago
Bravo!
blababshik 6 months ago
One of the best pianists. Hands down.
unownkiller 7 months ago in playlist Classical - Baroque
I agree with lyubomirgt that the tempo here is right on. When it's done too fast, I believe the interdependence, especially of the two fugal themes, get's lost. I also agree that on the whole the sustain seems excessive. However, there are places toward the last half where the themes are difficult to emphasize without seeming choppy, and having the sustain help with those areas makes it seem reasonable for sake of consistency to keep it throughout that section rather than come in and out.
harlowfarblast 8 months ago
what would I give to actually hear Bach playing this himself
guitarfan1979 8 months ago
@guitarfan1979 : There is nothing you can give. Bach would probably be not even interested in comprehending you (or I for that matter) !
MusicPredominates 2 months ago
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svatekl2 8 months ago
One of my favorite fugues by the Master!!! Great performance, this is the real tempo of the fugue, giving the player a better opportunity to underline its two themes and the movement of the voices, and not played like an etude the way Gould performed it. The only thing I didn't really like here is the excessive use of the sustain pedal, which blurred the voices imho, but I guess Richter was trying to recreate church acoustics, suggesting even more sacred and deeper meaning. I love Bach!
lyubomirgt 10 months ago
@lyubomirgt it actually had 3 themes. well at least i count the third.
yumeybaconcutout 8 months ago
3 dislikes.... what the hell is wrong with people nowa days.... how could someone hate this...... the very loud music of today is making people musically deaf !!
develish16 1 year ago 3
perfect..
Thank you Richter..
hissetveoyna 1 year ago
eccellente interpretazione
TheMauthe 1 year ago
Wow, much more meaningful than Gould. RIchter had as profound a soul as Bach, and he played like it.
Now f you'll excuse me, I'm going to go purchase this recording.
jlynem 1 year ago 4
no god, no man, no music. only richter.
mtlhoma 1 year ago
Glenn Gould was all about himself. His music-making was striking, but it was all about his ego. The music was an instrument to illuminate his personality. He never subordinated himself to the music. Richter goes into the subtext.
ChristophePhilippe 1 year ago 4
Is this the recording in which Richter played on a Bösendorfer? Whatever it is, this piano sounds slightly "softer" than the Steinway.
gouldaddict 1 year ago
@gouldaddict
This is indeed the Bösendorfer. Recorded in 1972/73 at Schloβ Klessheim in Salzburg, Austria.
maxico123 1 year ago
@maxico123 Thanks a lot!
gouldaddict 1 year ago
Whenever I listen Richter playing I have the sensation that I listen a music lesson with the a great teacher that explain me the very esence of music.
bratupir 1 year ago
I didn't realize how rushed my own choice of tempo was until I listened to Richter. His pacing is dictated by clarity; if not all the voices are distinct then it is too fast. There is a timelessness in this performance that has strongly impacted me. My thanks for posting this treasure.
sdgpiano 1 year ago
coming from an anti-dogmatist such as myself, Richter is certainly someone i would regard as a priest of music.
buenobus 1 year ago
I meant truecrypt comments ofcourse
darmbon 1 year ago
c# - b# - e - d#
best abstract work ever (for me)
3 (trinity)
4 (notes)
5 (voces)
bach was an architect. pyhtagoras: A=3 B=4 C=5
haha ok, just messing around because I liked Camiers comment about being simple while quoting some latin :P
darmbon 1 year ago
Stop comparing genius when you could be witnessing it.
efitzger76 1 year ago 3
Richter was an enigma, you never know what to expect from him, he surprised me here again.
uptilthesky 1 year ago
Ricter plays it like a true Russian. I can hear it clearly=). I can tell by how much he emphasises certain notes.
Irshkboy 1 year ago
@Irshkboy I have to agree. I have a mother from the Soviet Union (who plays piano). When a "true Russian" performs one imagines them singing on a cold day with snow on the ground crunching under the feet of those passing by with their chins hidden in their jackets...
eqdmuf 1 year ago
One of the greatest works of all keyboard music played by one of the greatest pianists of the 20th Century.
The sound quality is not good, but the essence comes across all the same.
cynic150 1 year ago
Truecrypt the encrypting software?
Markohoppis 1 year ago
Richter's emotion and atmosphere is very rich and deep. On the other hand, Gould has a very sharp musical appreciation on every notes and chords of Bach.
hfc1428 1 year ago
Bravo...!
graphicgratitude 1 year ago
We all hear what we wish to - it's entirely subjective that a playing style imbues us all with a singular emotional response. Bach was a religious man and, to me, something spiritual comes through in the notes. But I am irritated and bored by the constant use that individuals, seeking argument and discord, make of Bach and his God and make of the interpreters of his music. Technical comment is appropriate but this provocation and retaliation is reminiscent of a school playground.
gerhold101 1 year ago
@igitur07 Do you mean Gulda? If so, yes
vova47 1 year ago
He makes the piano sound harplike.
KABRIS1 1 year ago
Bach's music was 'For the glory of God and refreshment of the soul of man'. A nominal atheist playing Bach may be a subversive way to communicate this glory. Only God knows. soli Deo Gloria
cluny 1 year ago
Richter or Gould / Gould or Richter ??? BOTH OF THEM.
elpoderdelasgalaxias 1 year ago 2
Richter rocks at Bach!
89dan98 1 year ago
Es bonito el comentario de @tzeleustremlennost,pero Gould...es Gould.Toda comparacion lleva a un error,aunque sea con imaginacion y retruecanos.
paradoxicus 2 years ago
I think , that it is necessary for interpreter to find the same love and tenderness to the brother, that Bach felt during the composition of this play.
Bach loved the God which loved people, his music is filled by the Christ.
Richter loves the MAN more than music, and Gould loves music more than MAN.....It is a big difference.
tzeleustremlennost 2 years ago
@tzeleustremlennost
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem - Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity.
Be simple.
truecrypt 2 years ago 30
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tzeleustremlennost 2 years ago
@truecrypt "Be simple"
Thank God (pace Occam) Bach dared to be complex :)
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
@truecrypt He actually was simple. And spot on.
dragmio 10 months ago
@dragmio
Yes - “Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.”
truecrypt 10 months ago
Well a thought is just that, it's your opinion.
What I've found in Richter's playing (no need to look at his biography) is that Richter loved music above all, he lived for music so did Bach and Gould definitly.
The difference between RIchter and Gould is just your personal appreciation, it's subjective, personal. The sum of all expressions give us only a conventional parameter. Under that point of view, Richter surpasses definitly Gould
But then again, tha'ts only my opinion.
alexggable 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost
blablabla. that must be the ultimate rationalisation of style: the creator of the universe is behind it all. take your god somewhere else and leave my music alone.
gr0mithtimon 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost This comparison of Richter and Gould is quite profound. I agree.
JoePassIsMyIdol 1 year ago
@JoePassIsMyIdol I have changed the opinion. Richter and Gould - everyone brings individual note in music, but Richter surpasses, because he has more interests to spiritual trues and compassion( highest purposes in person).
He spoke surprisingly about Maria Yudina :"Whether you know : how wonderfully she reads verses of Pasternak! But, in fact, she absolutely does not have teeth". Richter - the great man.
tzeleustremlennost 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost: richter's intepretations are disciplined and (in richter's own words) "the interpreter should just do his best to follow what the composer really wrote" , thus accepting the composers will and expressing what the music for itself meant. If your listen to gould's repertoire you'll find his interpretations are full of self-imposed mannerisms, it seems he is desperate of making the music about himself, that's why he's good but not great
pozsoz 1 year ago
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KABRIS1 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost Jesus said judge not lest ye be judged". The spirit of the music does not recognize your subjective, comparitive analysis. The real difference between Bach and Gould & Richter is, they bring Bach's music to life, through transforming written manuscripts into audible sound. Stop judging and start listening to Gods messengers of music, Gould & Richter.
KABRIS1 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost You shouldn't dare to guess what richter loves or loves not. He's not here anymore to say what he thinks or feels, so we must simply shut and absorb what he left
martimtavares 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost : sorry -but Richter only loved music, he once said he played only for himself and also that everything in life was so difficult, except for music.
Read his biography and see "The Enigma", also on YouTube.
maasai123456789 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost : Your statements cannot be authenticated.
I think Gould slightly a nutter by will. Richter a nutter eventually by accident.
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost WOW! Don't know enough to know if that's true, but what an amazing analysis~
uemciicmeu 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost what do you mean by richter loves "the man" more than music ?
gouloum2222 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost Gould performed with his spirit inside and because of that he almost didn't played bach. Richter plays almost the same way but inside the rules, that don't changes nothing cause prelude and fugue when written didn't meant to be played that way and If somebody hears it seems from gould something comtemporary and from richter something from romantic period.
atzitzikas 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost Glenn Gould was all about himself. His music-making was striking, but it was all about his ego. The music was an instrument to illuminate his personality. He never subordinated himself to the music. Richter goes into the subtext.
ChristophePhilippe 1 year ago
@ChristophePhilippe I agree!
gatomjp 1 year ago
@tzeleustremlennost What a humanist approach to Bach. Stark contrast to the austerity of Glen Gould. Did he find solace and expression for his unfulfilled personal life in his music?
jojobruin 11 months ago 4
@jojobruin, exactly. This is far better than Glenn Gould. Bringing out all the expression like Richter does here is the way to go.
KhagarBalugrak 1 week ago
@tzeleustremlennost when retards go deep...
SiavashPiano 11 months ago
@tzeleustremlennost, this is some of the most moving playing I've ever heard.
KhagarBalugrak 1 month ago
@KhagarBalugrak
please most the other moving playing you have heard. I respect your taste!
francescaemc2 1 week ago
@francescaemc2, unfortunately, it's not on Youtube except as part of an interview. Analekta has a CD of Rameau's Pieces de Clavecin en Concert with Luc Beausejour as the harpsichordist. If you want to hear great music, I would suggest that. Or you could buy Marie-Claire Alain's last recording of all the Bach organ works. And then there's Scott Ross's recording of the Bach partitas. Oh my....what a treat.
KhagarBalugrak 1 week ago
@francescaemc2, Scott Ross playing the Bach partitas is something you can find on Youtube. Marie-Claire Alain's last Bach organ recordings, however, are not on Youtube.
KhagarBalugrak 1 week ago
Richter at his very best. I just love his punctuation; especially at this tempo. The subtlety within the exaggeration---it took me a while to understand this performance (months). I hope I'm not ruining it for anyone.
DarianHarman 2 years ago 3
What is this recording??
szender2021 2 years ago
introspective, philosophical, profound expression.
f1Nazayu 2 years ago 3
I saw him play twice--I prefer Gould but Richter is splendid
vivascargill 2 years ago
Richter's take on fugue849 is...deep&beautiful.
Sometimes you have to throw the metronome aside; some-
times you have to lay the pedal down.
TheJmd441 2 years ago 5
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zzzzzzzzz....the prelude ok, but honestly, I was lulled into sleep literally by the fugue.
Camier 2 years ago
Seems like you woke up just to post quite an unintelligent comment. You'd better keep sleeping.
truecrypt 2 years ago 23
sorry (people seem always to take a comment so immediately personally - sheesh)I simply find Gould more "awake" on this issue......as I said before, the prelude I found sensitive but the thread of the fugue was simply drawn out far too long....but any "intelligent " counter-comment is welcome.
Camier 2 years ago 4
@truecrypt The fugue did sound a bit too relaxed for my tastes.
Terrdemarzielle 1 year ago
@truecrypt
I dont know if being lulled to sleep by bach is a bad thing truecrypt. I dont think he meant anything malicious.
jimloomb 1 year ago
@jimloomb
I think he meant what he meant... and I simply didn't like it.
truecrypt 1 year ago
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very ignorant ;D u want fast up beats? go watch 50 cents nigger! xD
avenancius 2 years ago
To quote Ricther,
"The interpreter is really an executant, carrying out the composer's intentions to the letter. He doesn't add anything that isn't already in the work. If he is talented, he allows us to glimpse the truth of the work that is in itself a thing of genius and that is reflected in him. He shouldn't dominate the music, but should dissolve into it." So if you have a problem take it up with Bach's ghost and not with Ricther's.
BTW: I liked this performance :D
gerryrains 2 years ago 7
that's what one would "ideally" wish in an interpreter....but the problem immediately arises in the piano as executing instrument - richter obviously thought bach would have used the sustain pedal, etc.....on and on.
my opinion is simply: gould and bach make the composer's intention clearer, basta. as to gould and mozart´(or most other composers), no.
perhaps pianists should try to limit their archive of recordings....neither of these pianists had any self-control here.
Camier 2 years ago
(i.e. not all is gold that glitters.....)
Camier 2 years ago
Remarkable .
kempff95 2 years ago
すごい!
なんでか知らないが不覚にも涙、、、、、
shirane5 2 years ago
Pure lyricism - just as Bach intended. And what's even better - there is not a trace of 'interpretation' in Richter's playing.
organman52 2 years ago
i wonder what you mean by interpretation. on one reading what you just said seems impossible.
cathalcom 2 years ago
Chopin was fond of Bachs music also.
riceboii101 2 years ago 4
C'est un moment toujours merveilleux que d'écouter Sviatoslav Richter notamment dans ce Prélude et Fugue de Bach.
koliatima 2 years ago
great sviatoslav!!!
TheGravicembalo 2 years ago
When a master of composition meets master of execution. A timeless meeting.
vonMohl 2 years ago 32
@vonMohl exactly
scriabinopus9 1 year ago
this the 4th prelude and fugue out of the 24 that compiles this masterpiece which is the WTC written by one of the greatest of them all, the Leipzig Kantor, Johann Sebastian Bach, written for study purposes it turn out to be a colossal work, published during the XIX century not while the author was alive
beethomozart 2 years ago
"Note that in Bach's time, compositions could circulate in manuscript and be copied by hand, which sometimes amounted to publication, for example the Well-Tempered Clavier was considered "published" in this fashion years before it was printed the first time (all long before copyright even existed)."
-Wikipedia
I'm pretty sure Beethoven played the WTC at recitals quite often throughout his childhood, which would at very least make it the XVIII century...
wolffrankenstein 2 years ago
Numerous copies of Bach's works were made by students & colleagues DURING his lifetime. Already before 1750 some of his works were available in Austria, Italy, France & England. In April 1750, the famous Padre Martini (who taught Mozart and J.C.Bach) wrote "[Sig. Bach] is thoroughly known and admired not only in Germany but throughout our Italy...I think it would be difficult to find someone in the profession would could surpass him...he could rightfully claim to be among the 1st in Europe."
wcbroccoli 2 years ago
Mozart was well-acquainted with WTC and AoF. In 1782 he arranged for strings 5 fugues from WTC and AoF.
In 1783 a magazine article reported that the 11-year old Beethoven played most of WTC and "anyone who knows this collection of preludes and fugues in all the keys...will know what that means."
When Beethoven came to Vienna in 1792, it was his superb playing of WTC that first established his reputation there.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago
Richter reste décidément mon pianiste préféré! pour moi, l'écouter est un bonheur sans limite! En plus, il est très complet, il joue tous les répertoires magnifiquement! Le plus grand!!!! Surtout dans le "Wohltemperierte Klavier" de Bach
missuisse2008 2 years ago
Versions of gould and richter of the wtc are really sublime .. and complementary, in my opinion there isn't a better version between them.
Laurentpiano9 2 years ago 12
@Laurentpiano9 but there are better versions beside them! Masaaki Suzuki, for example
pyrrooo 1 year ago
It feels like he's playing on an organ.
Ecthelon 2 years ago
You hit the nail right on the head, Ecthelon. Not just this, but all Richter's Bach sounds like it is being played on organ, and especially the WTC. Even the acoustics of this recording is the one of a church.
mltube 2 years ago
If I recall correctly WTC was recorded in church, in Austria on Bosendorfer.
truecrypt 2 years ago
Sure, truecrypt, and that is where the church acoustics is coming from :-) This particular recording was criticized by many reviewers for its sound, which they claimed to be not piano-like, without realizing the recordings intent. But the acoustics adds little to this organ impression, as I always have it, listening to Richters Bach, including his other WTC recordings, from the concert hall.
mltube 2 years ago
In fact the recording was made in a castle (Schloss Klessheim near Salzburg) in August/September 1972 and February 1973. And yes, he played on a Bösendorfer.
martinpklehmann 2 years ago
sublime
schubertismyhomeboy 2 years ago
Evokes all at once a sense of absolute loss and absolute absolution, an ethereal ambivalence so painful and so beautiful it has to eat itself not to starve.
lurdanhelhart 2 years ago
now you gotta have some serious cojones in order to say "absolute absolution"
degenericni 2 years ago 5
Everything Richter plays sounds magical and very quiet. If you listen through all his pieces from WTC you will awake after 3 hours and feel like gonna sleep more.
kknots 3 years ago
best version i've ever heard, of this awesome work! thanks very much for the upload!
frapesdrinker 3 years ago
I believe there is a tragic story behind this prelude and fugue...his wife's death or son's or something.
camasta23m 3 years ago
If you lay the first four notes side by side,
as they are written on the note-lines, you get the sign of a c r o s s ! Maybe that´s where the magic of this piece comes from!
visionbach 2 years ago
I mean the first four notes of the fugue,
giving the cross-sign.
visionbach 2 years ago
nutcase. The fact that four notes at the beginning happen to resemble a crosse to YOU, just totally covers up for the whole fact that the entire composition is utterly amazing. Pitiful.
thejugglenaut91 2 years ago
This is my favorite.... There is something about this song.....
Amoremio85 3 years ago 2
Awesome.
amadeuswebern 3 years ago
I think that Bach in Hands of this genius man is more philosophical journey in the matter and substance but in the hands of Gould is transcendence though the universe....
Iaparulava 3 years ago
And I closely know a gal who turned pages to Richter! And it's not a joke.
LVG31 3 years ago
I know a guy who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man who studied with a man that studied with BACH!
Markohoppis 3 years ago
Wow!
It reminds me an old joke about husband catching his unfaithful wife...
Woman pointed to her lover saying: Darling, don't kill him - he's seen Lenin himself! ;)
truecrypt 3 years ago
MARKOHOPPIS.I WANT TO STUDY WITH YOU!
gorgonzola27 3 years ago
nice chain:)
ohogobongo 3 years ago
heh. Theres this book, i remember reading there that everyone, through friends of friends of friends etc...knows, like, every 5th person in the world. its amazing.
Lucithen 3 years ago
How very strange, no women involved? ;-)
pianopera 3 years ago
Wykonanie wspaniałe. Gould jest cienias.
wis1956 3 years ago
Is there a recording of the WTC 2 No.18 in G sharp minor, BWV 887?
pjioayncoe 3 years ago
Yes, all 48 were recorded. If I recall it correctly, Richter did this recording in Austria, using Bosendorfer.
He learned all 48 during WWII in Tbilisi. There are several earlier recordings of P&F too.
truecrypt 3 years ago
Richters WTK Is by far the best...
karakallatore 3 years ago 2
fantastic version of prelude and fugue -
beautiful pacing and tempos -
thx
ragtimemarkbirnbaum 3 years ago 5
Wow. This is one phenomenal interpretation of this prelude and fugue! I LOVE this prelude and fugue! What a POWERFUL performance.
luvmoosic 3 years ago 6
no me ha acabado de gustar esta version. A partir de compas 59 casi todas las apariciones del tema 1 las hace demasiado fuerte, en especial en el climax de compas 100. Retarda demasiado pronto, en 110, y demasiado, para compas 112 y 113 ya va lentisimo
jewish1972 3 years ago
Estimado jewish1972. ¿Que interpretación (versión) me recomiendas?. Saludos : )
dermann76 3 years ago
esta es muy buena. Yo tengo una (no me acuerdo del nombre del pianista) mejor.
jewish1972 3 years ago
It's remarkable how he makes the voices of the fugue more and more distinct as the texture gets more and more complex. A revelation.
smalin 3 years ago
interesting way of playing the fugue in a slow and grand manner
seahyimin 3 years ago 2
there is something special about this:
it's slow enough and clear enough for us to hear every note and richter even emphasised the parts where the c# b# e d# motif comes in
seahyimin 3 years ago
There is a 2 MASTER - Interpreters of BACH's keybord works in the Globe: WAS and STILL so far ...In west Globe - Gould, In East Globe - Richter( 1 detale: Richters range of performed composers was rather wide )
sam0xin 3 years ago
There are more than that...
Try Samuil Feinberg, Tatiana Nikolaeva, Edwin Fischer, and Maria Yudina.
3 from Russia and 1 Swiss. All very good though.
RabidCh 3 years ago
Not to forget Evgeni Koroliov. Probably the best lving Bach pianist.
KidTunder 3 years ago
revolutionary playing for the Russia of the time... he never fails to create magic...
mullahsoutnow 3 years ago
i think richter does a more luminous interpretation than gould - still very much Bach, and without the articulation, but still beautiful
jeffouNSHS 3 years ago 2
yes,i fully agree with u. im a fan of gould, but here, like elsewhere in bach, richter has more to say with his beautiful sound. I can only remember 2 or 3 pieces of his bach that didnt amaze me
pianofolle 3 years ago
I agree, richter, while not exactly a fantastic bach interpreter (imo), is very convincing here. Together with goulds one of my favourite recordings of this fugue.
radurak 3 years ago 2
And I love this picture of S.R. by the way.
suzettegm 4 years ago 4
The one in green jacket and a wig?
mltube 4 years ago 2
sure, the candid camera one!
suzettegm 4 years ago
Richter convincing himself that this is the way to do it. And it works exceptionally well here.
suzettegm 4 years ago
I agree. Somehow it takes.....balls (is actually the word I'm looking for here), stretching that last ritardando as far as he did!
He did great, absolutely great!
clyfton 3 years ago
Yes, you chose the right word, well Richter may have lacked some things (for some) but it sure wasn't balls!
suzettegm 3 years ago 2
Richter not only makes a point of interest of the gestural-connectivity...like the others excepting Gould...but creates interest in the motif itself.Richter's my favorite here.
smithsherman 4 years ago 3
"Gestural-connectivity"? Does that have any particular musical meaning, or is it just another term you have invented for yourself?
cziffra1980 3 years ago