Florida Election Fraud Scandal 10-26-2004 1 of 2

[TheMultioscarwinner]

Bush should never have been President in the first place! This whole election was a sham! Al Gore should have won, because he was the winner. If he had won, we wouldn't have had to put up with 8 years of bullshit from George W Bush. I agree with George Carlin when he said he never considered George Bush as President. Just like Carlin, George W Bush will always just be Governor Bush to me.

[JohnnyRock2000]

They have been "fimmin?"

[Susieshepherd]

This shit is FUCKED UP!!!!!! I personally thought Palin was a huge dumbass and a HUGE security risk to our country- but I would never try to stop someone who wanted to vote for her. I never liked Jessie Jackson...til now. He's right, it is our birthright ..fucking douchbags whoever was responsible for this crap

[LoveAmericaStyle]

Tom,

It was a pleasure to find you that unique whistleblower that had info regarding 1999. I humbly apologize for waking you up but God directs me&I follow his orders, not your sleep schedule.

I again humbly apologize but this person is really important for Albert & World Peace.

Update on the jokes in the city about Bernie Madoff now is that Bernie is now on his hands & knees & asking for Mark Foley&Larry Craig.

I'm very serious about this.

Google Mark Foley Larry Craig Tom Heneghan Jeff Fisher

[arion52]

Bush won Florida because of the Super Delegates... Remember the Super Delegates.... Blow me you crybaby loser liberal bastards.WA WA WA WA WA... Fuck You!

[nyrgamer]

fuck you, you and the republicans are nothing but the real criminals, 95 % list incorrect, 98 votes and then the recount stops, new evidence supports that gore won the state of florida, thanks for the 8 years of misery, mismangement in the budget worst in 30 years, mismangement in foreign nations, 9.11,soldiers dying everyday, oil crisis,

healthcare.People like you Katherine Cunt Harris, Jed Bush and others stole the election.You should be ashamed of yourseleves,George Fraud Bush.

[Luigi84289]

@nyrgamer The entire Government is criminal. The new millineum has yet to see a President. Fuck you crybaby 3 year old minded Jesse Jackson!

[He101A]

Felons shouldn't get to vote period!

[abhish13]

black voters are being intimidated by filming them without their knowledge? Wow, that's a pretty cool way to intimidate i guess... i dont see why dems are beneath using such canards to stir fears of imaginary enemies among black voters.

[UnshakableAngst]

Disgraceful. This is such an affront to democracy.

[NoGuff]

Obama Campaign Mgr David Plouffe has just accused the Clinton campaign of "robo calling" and push polling. And that, according to Jon Ralston, allies of the Clinton Campaign may be planning to challenge voters at the at-large precincts by filing a lawsuit to suppress turnout among union members, Democrats. HOORAY FOR HILLARY! AND DEMOCRATS! Nice to see they practice what they whine about.

[Dionysius9]

If I loaned you $100 asking you to pay 5% interest, and I am the only source of legal tender in the country, where is the $5 interest payment going to come from? The only way to satisfy me for now is if you borrow more money! Then you're in debt more later on. This is how the Federal Reserve works, and why the national debt is $9 trillion. See Google Videos "Money as Debt" and "Fiat Empire".

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

I am not being sarcastic, but why don't you get some bloods, crips or other gang members to get that investigator to talk, gangster style. Get some rough scary groups to to do a little intimidating themselves. Equality is important, vote tampering has got to go.

[apsert]

if ron paul doesnt get in. you have to rise as a people im telling you this would be your last chance. look a things now you think its not going to get worse?

[NoGuff]

"After the Diebold debacle at Iowa straw poll"

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I mean that), but what does an electronic polling machine company have to do with a straw poll? Isn't the whole point (method) of a straw poll is to take straws out of straw boxes to represent support for your candidate? There's nothing official there. So please let me know.

[V2impeach]

NATIONAL IMPEACHMENT DAY is this TUESDAY AUGUST 21st!!

Spread the word and search "v2impeach" on YOUTUBE now!

[NoGuff]

"NATIONAL IMPEACHMENT DAY is this TUESDAY AUGUST 21st!!"

Darn! I missed it! So tell me what happened!

[DixieDan3]

Speaking of lies, your comment about impeachment day is just another attempted lie that somehow we in this forum are involved in that - or else what place would it have here? Perhaps that's just your lame attempt at humor again?

[antibaptist]

I'm trying to understand what the republican vision is? When I call 9-11 because my child is hurt, I hope a professional shows up, or puts out my fire, I hope all of our kids have an opportunity to be well educated in good schools. Healthy educated citizens = stronger country, All this takes money=taxes. What is a perfect Republican Nation?

[NoGuff]

Dems hate the country, which is why they're trying to change it into Socialist Europe. Republicans love the party, Conservatives don't.

[antibaptist]

my mom grew up in an America where poor children went to work, not school. And people could actually starve to death. I agree, where ever there is money, there is fraud. But, having emerged as one of the most powerful nations on earth, do we allow that? Do we?

[NoGuff]

No, we do not. That's why fraud is illegal. And nowhere in America, going all the way back to the Great Depression, can people starve to death without any help available, unless their location is too remote. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but the cases are rare. Some children are malnourished, but assistance is available and some just don't seek it or use it properly.

[Dallas767]

Another infamous NoGuff lie. I know many "dems" who not only love this country, but are fighting in Ahganistan for our security. Unlike NoGuff's blindness, the military doesn't see "dems" and "republicans" - they see people, and there are plenty on both sides who aren't going to let politics weaken us by dividing us. NoGuff being an exception along with his Faux news heroes.

[NoGuff]

"Another infamous NoGuff lie."

--Again, what message are you replying to? You should at least have the honesty to show quote me the statements you're condemning. Otherwise you're just blowing hot air....Chris.

[Dallas767]

Amazing, as MANY others, not just Chris and Dixie have pointed out, "you lie - then you lie about your lies." Several posts back you state "dems hate America". Hate to break it to ya, but over half the population does not hate America, but they sure hate lies, deception and trillion dollar deficits in the name of "security" which Iraq has nothing to do with. You can dream we're all the same just because we're all against the war but that's just another one of your lies.

[NoGuff]

"Several posts back you state "dems hate America". Hate to break it to ya, but over half the population does not hate America"

--Actions speak louder than words, and if you're actively working against, subverting, or undermining this nation, it doesn't matter what you say. The Dems want to do everything BUT fight terrorists, and many times outright take the terrorists' side. But, of course, it's only my opinion.

[monicasuetannehill]

my brother died so iraq people could vote. republicans don't care about ours, just winning. evil.

[rpppolyp]

What did the US media do with this bombshell, they just asked the republican caging headmaster who said (paraphrase), "we didn't do that? Palast is wrong" The US media just went OK and walked away from the story.

And in addition, when you hear republican say they care for the troops, they even want to disenfranch them... bastards.

[NoGuff]

"The US media just went OK and walked away from the story"

--Yes, the Right Wing, Bush-Loving main stream media.

"they even want to disenfranch them"

--Yes, I'm sure you believe that. But its not Republicans calling our soldiers "terrorists." And its Republicans who are believing in and backing our soldiers.

[rpppolyp]

"But its not Republicans calling our soldiers "terrorists." And its Republicans who are believing in and backing our soldiers."

And that has to do with it how?

The US media walked away from it. Again you are at a disadvantage because I saw it. Sorry you stick your head in the sand when it's inconvenient.

[NoGuff]

rp - It has a lot to do with it. Republicans back the military, Democrats do not. And most military are Conservatives. And I don't recall the US newsmedia simply "walking away" from this story. They hung onto it for weeks and weeks, saying we "don't have a President" and other such foolish things.

[rpppolyp]

Really, what major US media outlet picked up the caging story. And Republicans sure back the military when you send letters to military voters stationed in Iraq to their US bases and they come back "bad address" and they are then removed from the voting rolls and when they cut their pay. You can keep repeating that you support the troops, but saying it isn't true.

[NoGuff]

You're right, we must practice what we preach. That's why we actively support the troops in both words and action. And by not stabbing them in the back with accusations of "terrorism" and murder. You should try it sometime.

[SatoriToo]

It's not who votes that counts. It's who counts the votes.

[russellwyllie]

Sacks of duplicate vote tapes were made in favour of Bush, so when black Americans in Florida and elsewhere voted, their original votes against Bush were switched in the cars on the way to the counting booths.Simple,Effective.Illega­l. Down With Bush...

[NoGuff]

russ - How do they know the votes were cast by Blacks? And what are "vote tapes" anyway? And your evidence is....?

[MrLMULES]

Doug his own grave then.

[owdiennde]

NoGuff - your phones are tapped, your emails are read, your bank transactions monitored, you can be intimidated at the polls, and you can be detained/imprisoned indefinitely w/o charge or counsel - which country is less free again?

[NoGuff]

owd - Strange how I've never been detained/imprisoned. If that's what's "going to happen to me," then why hasn't it? And no, the govt is not tapping everyone's phones or reading everyone's emails. Have you any idea how much manpower that would take? And how much of a waste of time and money that would be? And no, nobody can intimidate me at the polls. Only weak or feable-minded people can be. And polling places are monitored, anyway. Stop talking out of your ass.

[rpppolyp]

Monitored by private investigation firms? O'Rly?

You mean they wouldn't have county officials do it, just some dope parked across the street? The only one talking out of their ass is you and it smells particularly farty in here.

As far as not being intimidated, I'm sure guessing by your skin color you were never subject to BS threats of jail time if you showed up. So you've never been intimidated, I guess it doesn't happen eh...

As far as

[NoGuff]

rpp - Talking out of my ass, huh? Do I need to provide you with proof that I've never been the victim of voter intimidation? And I'm not saying people don't try, crime happens everywhere, all the time. You just need to use your brains & act with some personal responsibility. Saying long lines & bad weather is a form of voter intimidation (NYTimes) is pure absurdity. And if someone outside the polls "tells" you to vote a certain way, you reply with the all-purpose all-American phrase "fuck you."

[rpppolyp]

Yeah, use "your brains" and say fuck you to a poll worker when they say you're a felon and your obviously not and then see what happens. It's not pure absurdity when they force working people to wait for hours because the state or county only CONVENIENTLY placed 3 machines (sorry, one is down) to serve a district of a thousand plus.

[NoGuff]

"a poll worker when they say you're a felon and your obviously not and then see what happens"

--You're allowed to cast a provisional ballot if you want to contest your name being removed. Take some personal responsibility.

"when they force working people to wait for hours"

--Oh, they forced them, huh? They should have requested to file absentee ballots. Again, personal responsibility, and brains. I'm so sick of the old "long lines and bad weather hurt Democrats" cry-baby whine.

[rpppolyp]

First of all your ignorance voting law is not astounding given your apparent ignorance. You can't vote absentee the day of an election and provisional ballots are a joke. You can type "personal responsibility" all you want but when the gate keeper is erroneously saying you can't vote you can't stand around after the polls close and watch them to see if they count your provo ballot.

And yeah, it's forced if you want to vote legally and you fuckers play the system.

[NoGuff]

Us "fuckers" play the system? Yes, I'm a real "insider." You're a joke. Just because you hate "the establishment" you're then going to dump on the rights & privileges you're afforded? You're like a child, you can only fill out a provo ballot, then you yell & scream that now you don't want to vote! Crybaby. And I didn't say to request an absentee ballot on election day. You can't do that, but thanks for attributing such a stupid idea to me, dummy. You're the ignorant one here, and its obvious.

[NoGuff]

Why is it when video cameras are pointed at polling places by Liberals, its a case of "ensuring a fair vote," but when anyone else points a video camera at polling places its "voter intimidation?" I couldn't give a rat's ass who saw me go to a polliing place, I'd wave and say "watch me vote, shitface!"

[WNanette]

Well said.

The Canadians chose (wisely) to not help baby Bush with his land grab in Iraq & Afghanistan.

May we, the citizens of the country-formerly-known-as the USA request your help, now, please?

Got any ballsy investigative journalists you can spare?

^_^

[NoGuff]

Wnanette - And what is your date for moving to Canada or some other less-free nation? I'm very interested in knowing. If you're not movie, then why would you remain in such an awful country?

[WNanette]

Anything you cast can be misplaced, tossed, shredded, lost.

Miscounted, discounted, forgotten.

Thank the GOOD LORD above baby Bush 'only' had girls, anyone know about bro Jeb? Did he have sons? *o*

[NoGuff]

How do they know the ballots were from Blacks? My ballot has no such information on it. And if Also, here's one for you: TRY VOTING ABSENTEE!! Duh!

[Cirvantes123]

The ballots were from predominatley black districts.

[NoGuff]

"Predominantly Black districts" is an example of vote engineering, isn't it? District lines which encompass non-contiguous regions of states in order to give a specific racial group a voting advantage. If Whites or Republicans did that it would be racism, woudn't it? But if Black people or Democrats do it, it's called "giving" someting to Blacks, so they'll sit up and beg to the Democratic Party.

[doinit2init]

Republicans don't give a crap about you, democrats do. That's why.

[NoGuff]

doinit - Yes, you keep believing that. One day, when you get a job, you'll come to understand the opposite.

[rpppolyp]

What, that republicans will raid the treasury of your hard fought wages whenever they can. Oh yeah, I understand clearly Guffie.

[NoGuff]

rp - I'm not going to defend Republicans against their recent spending habits, other than to say that in the past 6 years we've had the need for spending due to terrorism and security issues. But as a Conservative, and not all Republicans are, we believe in limited spending, unlike the Democrats.

[rpppolyp]

And yet the budget was voted in the past by majority republican legislatures and signed by republican president (oh NOW they're not "conservatives") Hmmm

[rpppolyp]

As for security, I'm sure the many boondoggles the money was funnelled too REALLY helped our security.

[NoGuff]

Again, I don't condone pork projects. Only Democrats do.

[magicpet]

That is a patently absurd assertion that falls apart under the slightest scrutiny.

[NoGuff]

It was a joke.

[ChrisAable]

When joking, people put LOL or some other such notation, otherwise how are they to know that your not serious? Judging from your history of similar statements, you were serious until called on the carpet again.

[NoGuff]

"otherwise how are they to know that your not serious?"

--Because it sounded 'patently absurd,' which is how it was meant to sound.

"you were serious until called on the carpet again."

--Based on my previous statements, if I had been serious about that message I wouldn't have called it a joke. How can you sit there and write something you know is not true? I guess for you, it's habit.

[DixieDan3]

After finding your other posts all over the internet, the evidence would compel rational people to side with Dr. Aable's analysis on this. He apparently based it on your other lies found in other forums: That democrats are THE big tax spenders - you've written it over and over. Changing it to: Democrats are the pork spenders, but oh, on second thought, you're just joking, is obviosuly still the same horse, you're just trying to paint it with a different color.

[ChrisAable]

Another typical NoGuff lie - "Even some conservatives have conceded that Republicans have just as much pork-barrel projects as Democrats. The Iraq war has made most of my family and friends feel less secure, not more so, because we are hated more now than ever. Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11 and thus nothing to do with our "security" - Another "neocon" lie that caused Cheney and Rove to sink to popularity-lows. The Iraq war has been plenty of PORK for Cheney's best friends at Haliburton."

[NoGuff]

"Another typical NoGuff lie"

--First, that quote seems to go on and on, I don't recall writing all that. And second, you're berating me for agreeing with you that Republicans have their own pork barrel projects just like Democrats? You'll find just about anything to condemn someone for, won't you? Even an agreement or concession. Amazing.

[DixieDan3]

Chris was right, you do habitually lie-No where does he state that the above quote is yours: Its obviously too intelligent AND its a worthy argument AGAINST your other two lies found in other forums: That democrats are THE big tax spenders AND almost a trillion dollars and 4,000 lives wasted in Iraq was "worth" the lie of the year - "homeland security" If your heros Bush and the millionaire "news analysis" at Fox were serious about security, we wouldn't have undocumented people pouring in.

[NoGuff]

Like I said, I don't entirely defend big spending by Republicans, but DHS, the 9/11 recovery, and new security measures required funding. Ever hear complaints about "unfunded mandates?" Now you're jumping on them about funding them. Nicely done.

[rpppolyp]

My god where do you get this shit? You really are pulling everything out of some dark stinky place to be an apologist for felony activity aren't you? And BTW: when the last wave of gerrymandering happened it was under many republican plans... your point is not only a non-sequitor to this issue but also wrong.

[NoGuff]

"an apologist for felony activity aren't you?"

--And just exactly what "felony activity" are you referring to? What I mean is, where is your evidence? Bush won the elction is eveidence enough for you, isn't that right?

"it was under many republican plans"

--Explanation?

"non-sequitor"

I doubt you even know what that means.

[rpppolyp]

"And just exactly what "felony activity" are you referring to? "

Due to consent degree for the republicans getting caught fucking with minorities that THEY signed (I don't care if you are ignorant of that) they promised not to pull shit like this. And kicking anyone off the rolls for spurious reasons is illegal.

Yeah and I know what non sequitor means boyo, and it's your 28% approval rating.

[NoGuff]

What is a "consetn degree?" Please repost that message, I can't even understand it.

[rpppolyp]

"The Republican Party has a long and ignominious record of caging - much of it focused on the African American community," Kennedy and Whitehouse explain in their letter which gives details of the RNC using voting caging tactics to suppress minority voters in both 1981 and 1986. After both incidents, the GOP had signed consent decrees that they would not engage in the activity in the future."

[rpppolyp]

Nonetheless, email evidence has shown that in 2004, Tim Griffin created and sent caging lists on behalf of the Bush 2004 campaign as originally reported by the BBC to little American media fanfare, prior to the election. Griffin, who became an aide to Karl Rove, was later appointed by the Bush Administration as the US Attorney from Arkansas after they had fired Bud Cummins. Griffin has since resigned from the post in the wake of the scandal."

[rpppolyp]

Nice try playing ignorant with my previous typo. Take personal responsibility for the consent decree your party signed not to pull this shit.

[NoGuff]

rp - If it was so illegal, why would someone need to sign something saying they won't do it again?

[rpppolyp]

They signed it so as an organization it wouldn't have been broken up and everyone thrown into jail you dolt (not to mention that various voting acts forbid such behavior.). And even if that wasn't the case, do you sign contracts you plan on breaking? Remind me not to do business with a repub (they'll just plow it into a mountain and expect a golden parachute anyway.)

[NoGuff]

"various voting acts forbid such behavior"

--If that's the case, why did the election comm's cooperate with them?

"do you sign contracts you plan on breaking?"

--No, but when I walk into a store I don't first sign something promissing to not steal anything. That's ridiculous.

[DixieDan3]

You understand its clearly consent degree, you just have a sick childish habit of insulting people when they make a common typo. The evidence is all over the internet, along with, collectively, thousands of "thumbs down". Looks like that would give pause for self-reflection, but to the contrary you've deluded yourself into thinking all of your lies and name-calling are rational. What a waste of time your life of division and hatred has been.

[NoGuff]

"You understand its clearly consent degree"

--I'm sorry, which message are you replying to?

"you just have a sick childish habit of insulting people when they make a common typo"

--Not when they make one, but when they make so many it becomes annoying, and reflects on their intelligence.

[Dallas767]

He only made one such typo because the guy only made one post, and as Dan points out you have to rag him on it as you consistently do to other then you have the nerve to lecture people on annoyance and intelligence, scroll back for the evidence.

[NoGuff]

"He only made one such typo because the guy only made one post"

--I still don't know which message you're replying to.

"and as Dan points out you have to rag him"

--PLEASE stop, you are DixieDan and ChrisAble, please stop trying to hide it, you're not doing a good job.

[Dallas767]

Another infamous NoGuff lie.  If you did your homework (which you never do) you would know that Dixie does not live here in Dallas and Able lives in HOllywood.

[NoGuff]

"Dixie does not live here in Dallas and Able lives in HOllywood."

--I don't give a rat's ass what is typed into your three different YouTube names, you're the same person. So please stop, it's really childish.

[Dallas767]

NoGuff, you and your aliases Nensman and at least three others are the ONE trying to hide that you're all one and the same - you've even admitted being caught at it and then lied about and like the a typical "Christian" hypocrite you bear false witness by trying to accuse the rest of the world of doing your same dirty deed.

NoGuff (5 months ago)

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(Reply) (Spam)

What is a "consetn degree?" Please repost that message, I can't even understand it.

rpppolyp (5 months ago)

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[NoGuff]

"you and your aliases Nensman and at least three others"

--Just because we agree doesn't mean we're the same person. You just refuse to accept that there actually are Conservatives out there in the real world. Not everyone is a retarded Liberal. Have you seen Nesman on this page? No. But once one of your 3 IDs shows up, the other two show up as well, to make it look like you're a big group, like Ron Paul nutjobs.

[Dallas767]

More lies from the NoGuff-Nensman "nutjob" 1.) We EMAIL each other about your stupid insults and lies, so you're easily found by anyone. 2.) In the other forums, as soon as NoGuff stops posting: Nensman, Brad and all of your other alias quit as well. Two of which admitted co-mingling each other's (YOUR) posts. 3.) Every time anyone points out the lies NoGuff-Nensman, they (HE)turns it around and blames his same behavior on others. Consistent.

[NoGuff]

"We EMAIL each other"

--Sure. So you're so convictions are so weak that you need your 'friends' to help you gang up on others? Whatever.

"all of your other alias quit"

--Again, not my fault.

"blames his same behavior on others"

--Where have I blamed others for what I've written?

[Dallas767]

And you so weak that you have to stoop to name-calling, then point to others as your excuse and then ask (again) for example as if you've never done it? Are you so weak that you have to command people to "stop"?? - Stop freedom of speech to call you on your many lies such as "O'Reilly doesn't lie", etc.?

[NoGuff]

"And you so weak that you have to stoop to name-calling"

--Sorry, do I hear a baby crying?

"then point to others as your excuse and then ask (again) for example as if you've never done it?"

--And you're good at accusing people of doing things which you can't substantiate. You're also good at exaggerating what others write.

"Stop freedom of speech"

--Huh? Write something that makes sense, then get back to me.

[Dallas767]

NoGuff,you keep commanding people to "stop" posting against your surreal attacks on over half the nation. It's evident that you have trouble grasping things, but yes, that is called a command to "stop freedom of speech". I would never ask anyone to "stop" posting anything, but I would expect them to point out any lies or distortions if I was painting the entire army or and entire network as either completely "great" or "evil" - something you have simplistically done consistently.

[Dallas767]

LOL...now I'm a "baby" ? Not crying about name-calling, only a reminder is that it doesn't win friends nor influence people, let alone educate anyone. If anything, it proves how weak and childish your arguments have been consistently all over the net. Your alias stoop to the same thing, which is why its so easy to spot you.

[NoGuff]

"Not crying about name-calling, only a reminder is that it doesn't win friends nor influence people, let alone educate anyone"

--Yes, that definitely is a baby crying. More like a cry-baby temper tantrum, if I'm not mistaken. With a little leg-kicking thrown in for good measure.

[Dallas767]

NoGuff, it's easy to "substantiate" your lies. Saying I can't is a lie, because I've cited many and you keep saying "show me". When I do, you change the subject. One of your latest lies is: "Bill O'Reilly doesn't lie and prove it." I did - but to add another, his latest is: "Water boarding is NOT torture". TRUTH: IT'S LISTED IN OUR OWN ARMY MANUALS AS TORTURE. Why? Because we would NOT WANT them doing to do it. Keep defending consistent lies, and you will consistently be called on it.

[NoGuff]

"'Water boarding is NOT torture'. TRUTH: IT'S LISTED IN OUR OWN ARMY MANUALS AS TORTURE"

--It isn't. There are interrogation methods the Army isn't allowed to use, but other divisions of the government are allowed to use. Our own military undergoes waterboarding as part of their TRAINING. So if it is torture, why aren't you whining about them 'being tortured?' Seems you're only worried about terrorists.

[Dallas767]

There are no posts for Ron Paul from Dan, Chris, myself & many others who agree with us- so once again instead of doing research NoGuff uses false comparisons. No wonder your alias are so easy to spot. There ARE millions of us who speak out against lies-you pointing at MOST of the nation who are against a war built on lies. Dissent is protected by the Constitution that you trounce on every time you command "leave the countryf" because they aren't as blind an ass-kisser for Fox & Bush.

[NoGuff]

"There are no posts for Ron Paul from Dan, Chris, myself"

--You can't even understand what you're writing. First, I didn't say you supported Paul, I said you're a nutjob LIKE Paul supporters. And second, it isn't a "false comparison" because I believe you're nutjobs, LIKE Paul supporters.

"Dissent is protected by the Constitution"

--The law is "Congress shall make no law...," not "NoGuff shall not tell someone they should leave the country." It's called freedom, idiot. Look into it.

[Dallas767]

As is your pattern, NoGuff, it is you who "can't even understand what (someone else) is writing" and then, as accurately stated before, "you stoop to "blaming others for your own such shortcomings". I clearly stated that it was a false COMPARISON - I never stated that you SAID anyone directly supported Ron. DUH again. Speaking of lies, you cite "freedom" and then command people to "stop" the exercise of their speech. Or, in your own crude words, "it's called freedom, idiot".

[NoGuff]

"I never stated that you SAID anyone directly supported Ron. DUH again."

--Really? How about "There are no posts for Ron Paul from Dan, Chris, myself & many others who agree with us." That sounds like it to me.

"then command people to "stop" the exercise of their speech"

--Actually I tell people to stop badmouthing their own nation without warrant. Then I tell them to live by their convictions and go live somewhere else if they think it would be so much better.

[Dallas767]

Another NoGuff-Nensman lie and distortion. NOWHERE did I state you don't have the freedom to lie all you want.

For whatever reason, citing your lies and name calling, such as you've just demonstrated again, has you crying "stop". It's a free country, and this is called freedom of speech - if you're going to lie and distort like they do on Fox,(AND defend their lies) then expect to be called out in public for it.

[NoGuff]

"if you're going to lie and distort like they do on Fox"

--Such as?

[bassplayer211]

please watch "OutFoxed." it's very cheap and probably available at any one of your local video store. or, you can just use google. i would be happy to provide you with several links if you are unable to search like a normal person.

[NoGuff]

"please watch 'OutFoxed'"

--I've seen pieces of it. It's an ultra-Leftist hit piece full of lies, distortions, misrepresentations, mischaracterizations, and cry-baby whining about things that are true but which Liberals don't like.

According to the Center for Media & Public Affairs at George Mason University, FNC has been the most fair & balanced coverage of all broadcast news services in covering the primaries. So stick it.

[NoGuff]

"And kicking anyone off the rolls for spurious reasons is illegal."

They were kicked off for proper reasons, not "spurious" reasons. Problem is that the proper reasons were based on incorrect evidence. Why is it you can't understand something this simple?

[bigbadmuthafukkah]

So you're a traitor, there's just not enough correct evidence yet. Enjoy your vacation at guantanomo, bitch.

[NoGuff]

Wow, what a strong argument.

<snooooz>

[blaynestaley]

I'm at peace with my lust

I can kill 'cause in God I trust, yeah

It's evolution, baby

[rextside]

nice pj rocks

[WNanette]

do you mean revolution?

[blaynestaley]

nope evolution... but it can be both I guess.

[mrmoneymaker05]

F*ck Bush

[PillyPlonkins]

This Is Freedom, get used to it..