Beautiful movie... The first time I watched it, about twenty years ago, I was in Germany and it was broadcasted with German dubbing (but it sounded rather nice anyway) and I loved it. And loved this scene in particular, in fact one of my favorite sequences from the movie. Both intense and sensual...
Plus I'm deeply, deeply fond of Charlton Heston and of Middle Ages, so their mix means absolute pleasure for me ^^ !
Never understood why people got down on Rosemary Forsythe for this film. She wasn't playing a brilliant, witty Katherine of Aragon but a simple serf girl with no power but with none of the cruelty and malice normal in the warlord's world. All she could be in this context was pretty and kind.
@boochompsit , Bronwyn, your name is the first gift given to you by your parents. As I remember, John Fords, How Green Was My valley, a Welsh heroine was called Bronwyn. Like my name Wesley or my family name, it flows like most of the language of the Welsh. Take pride, its of good character and a splendid name.
it's nice to see others appreciate this film. heston and schaffner wanted to film this with english actors in the english marshes. julie christie had agreed to play the part of bronwyn but the studio refused to meet her price which was around 46 thousand, (if i remember correctly, i might be off but it was really low.) the studio also did some post-production cutting, probably of the witchcraft stuff. the idea was that unseen forces are playing upon this guy's mind.
The film was not set in England, but Belgium: (the priest for example is Hugo de Bouillon). It was based on a play by Leslie Stevens and is really a very good psychological story. Rigid patriarchal outlook meets matriarchal chaos and results in tragedy. History is not the issue. GREAT music score by Jerome Moross, but the film was chopped by the studio, much to Heston's chagrin, and Schaffner's. Costumes from the Bayeaux Tapestry. No historical re-enactor types ever got it to look so good.
Unfortunately the setting doesn't look a lot like the Fens in eastern England. Maybe Chuck didn't fancy staying at B&B and eating at a cafe in England!
No, it's meant to be England. The Duke of Ghent owned this part of England. After the Normans invaded, William I handed slices of English land to his followers to govern i.e. various Dukes and Lords. There are no scenes in this movie that are in Frisia (like you say modern day Belgium).
What you are forgetting is that this movie is complete fiction in it's tale (except the historical context). When Draco comes with help from the Duke then yes, he must have travelled all the way to Ghent by sea and then back to the Fens in east Anglia, England. Of course such a journey would have taken many days. You could argue that this is an oversight in the movie.
@maxiboy666 No, it's supposed to be Normandy, probably before the Norman invasion of England. The War Lord's feudal overlord is the Duke of Ghent, not the King of England.
Chuck tried hard to get the film shot in England, but the budget wouldn't run. That it looked so good in N. Californian swamps is testimony to the art designers. Interiors shot on a Norman tower in LA!
One great underrated movie. Apparently it was even better before they cut it. Great psychology, great costumes from the Bayeux Tapestry, good dialogue and the best ever music by Jerome Moross. I wish they'd restore this one. These symbolic love scenes that ALMOST consummate are very subtle.
Richard Boone was great in this flick
wrybreadspread 1 month ago
Beautiful movie... The first time I watched it, about twenty years ago, I was in Germany and it was broadcasted with German dubbing (but it sounded rather nice anyway) and I loved it. And loved this scene in particular, in fact one of my favorite sequences from the movie. Both intense and sensual...
Plus I'm deeply, deeply fond of Charlton Heston and of Middle Ages, so their mix means absolute pleasure for me ^^ !
SundayinSpace 3 months ago
You'r all just getting of on the s&m bedroom scene..lol
DonnellyArtist 10 months ago
Never understood why people got down on Rosemary Forsythe for this film. She wasn't playing a brilliant, witty Katherine of Aragon but a simple serf girl with no power but with none of the cruelty and malice normal in the warlord's world. All she could be in this context was pretty and kind.
yamsid 1 year ago
bronwyn the pagan girl is played by rosemary forsyth...(she is still an actress she played some aliens on star trek voyager)
rocketshipstud1 1 year ago
bronwyns everywhere are getting a pretty good rep from this movie :) my name is bronwyn too lol
daisyinwinter 2 years ago
aha my name is Bronwyn, it's weird when people say it cause its so rare lol
boochompsit 2 years ago 2
@boochompsit , Bronwyn, your name is the first gift given to you by your parents. As I remember, John Fords, How Green Was My valley, a Welsh heroine was called Bronwyn. Like my name Wesley or my family name, it flows like most of the language of the Welsh. Take pride, its of good character and a splendid name.
progressiverebel 2 years ago
@boochompsit
Bronwyn: enw Cymreig da ydy! :-D
CantwrCymreig 6 months ago
nice piece
Istojataachatearme 2 years ago
Smaug bitches.
mikedrummonds 2 years ago
Bronwyn is such a pretty name for a pretty girl!
Blondie331994 3 years ago
can someone please tell me where i can buy this dvd? i love this movie and they never play it on t.v. anymore. i must own it now!! please help!!
vabgab 3 years ago
I bought it from American Amazon.
centrum99 3 years ago
it's nice to see others appreciate this film. heston and schaffner wanted to film this with english actors in the english marshes. julie christie had agreed to play the part of bronwyn but the studio refused to meet her price which was around 46 thousand, (if i remember correctly, i might be off but it was really low.) the studio also did some post-production cutting, probably of the witchcraft stuff. the idea was that unseen forces are playing upon this guy's mind.
majorhepcat 3 years ago
The film was not set in England, but Belgium: (the priest for example is Hugo de Bouillon). It was based on a play by Leslie Stevens and is really a very good psychological story. Rigid patriarchal outlook meets matriarchal chaos and results in tragedy. History is not the issue. GREAT music score by Jerome Moross, but the film was chopped by the studio, much to Heston's chagrin, and Schaffner's. Costumes from the Bayeaux Tapestry. No historical re-enactor types ever got it to look so good.
Prospro8 3 years ago 2
Unfortunately the setting doesn't look a lot like the Fens in eastern England. Maybe Chuck didn't fancy staying at B&B and eating at a cafe in England!
maxiboy666 3 years ago
It isn't England. It is supposed to be modern Belgium.
centrum99 3 years ago
No, it's meant to be England. The Duke of Ghent owned this part of England. After the Normans invaded, William I handed slices of English land to his followers to govern i.e. various Dukes and Lords. There are no scenes in this movie that are in Frisia (like you say modern day Belgium).
maxiboy666 3 years ago
Do you think that the "help from Ghent" came by sea???
centrum99 3 years ago
What you are forgetting is that this movie is complete fiction in it's tale (except the historical context). When Draco comes with help from the Duke then yes, he must have travelled all the way to Ghent by sea and then back to the Fens in east Anglia, England. Of course such a journey would have taken many days. You could argue that this is an oversight in the movie.
maxiboy666 3 years ago
@maxiboy666 No, it's supposed to be Normandy, probably before the Norman invasion of England. The War Lord's feudal overlord is the Duke of Ghent, not the King of England.
VentrueCapital 7 months ago
Chuck tried hard to get the film shot in England, but the budget wouldn't run. That it looked so good in N. Californian swamps is testimony to the art designers. Interiors shot on a Norman tower in LA!
Prospro8 3 years ago
@maxiboy666 Could be north Kent. Reculver, somewhere like that....
gaspode18 1 year ago
Great movie. RIP Heston.
elquetemonta 3 years ago
Why isn't this video available for rental anywhere?
selizabettac123 4 years ago
One great underrated movie. Apparently it was even better before they cut it. Great psychology, great costumes from the Bayeux Tapestry, good dialogue and the best ever music by Jerome Moross. I wish they'd restore this one. These symbolic love scenes that ALMOST consummate are very subtle.
Prospro8 4 years ago