AQ is premium holdings in 5 handed, cant hate on him for going all in there. He was coming for that number one spot. Whats the difference between 6th and 1st?i think 63 k, probably aint gonna see another hand better than AQ if ur just gonna blind out
callig with 4's was retarded......but going alling with AQ was just as stupid if youre not the short stack....costed himself 6,500 what a fool....the other guy didnt even have enough for a full Big blind. idiot
the site is a scam man. Eveyr hand is a set up hand just like that. i find it funny how when you flop trips you always flop it where there is a possible straight or flush opportunity. Its veyr predictable also. If the flop is 67 Ace, u hit the ace and somebody has 89. Another ace will flop of course, and then the river will be a ten. The site sets you up
this is an obvious shove, if ur worried about ratting up the money scale u shouldnt be playing mtts, play sngs until u have enough bankroll to be confident about going for 1st in a big mtt. the only play that is bad here is the call with 44. seriously marty if ur folding kk here then why the fuck are u playing the tournament.
raise with AQ, fold to an all-in if that happens. It's much harder for him to call or raise you with the pocket fours in his hand.. rather than be the second to last one and make a call as a possible flip. Shoving here is ridiculously bad..
i dont understand why AQ suited shoving utg is a bad move?
He was playing for first. theres a good argument that could be made there,
a $6500 difference between 5th and 4th...when that all in would have very likely either got him flipping or had him as a favourite if somebody called weak enogh like AJ or mabey KQ. however 6.5k in relation to 30k difference between 1st and 2nd....
@IMakeBoringVideos I agree. It's so standard, he's trying to pick up the blinds and antes with a standard shove with <10 BBs. Why would you care about the $6.5k when you've just made $20k? He was going for the $80k. A fold here would make me puke.
Funny how people say "he's a pro, he has money, it's the correct shove." So because they're a pro, they have tons of money? Some pros don't do so well. Also, if they do have money, ignore the increases in money altogether? If you do that, then you're missing out on guaranteed money every tourney. Over a period of tourneys, that is a huge difference. If they have money, and miss out on opportunities to place higher this might be the difference in having a high bankroll. You guys aren't thinking.
for me, the decision can go either way. if your just looking for the extra money, then folding would be correct. but Michael Craig is a pro and has plenty of money and im sure he was looking for 1st place. if that is the case, then pushing with AQ was correct in my opinion.
AQ is the correct shove for a pro, if you have a huge bankroll like most of the pros do then you should really be playing to win, but if it was an average player like me was at the final table then i think AQ would be the correct fold.
I know some people say "never fold Kings preflop", but I think such a statement is silly. In some situations, it is beneficial to fold any hand, including aces. For example, being second in chips in a double or nothing sit-n-go during bubble play, facing an all-in raise from the chip leader. It is mathematically better to fold aces in that spot, and wait for a shorter stack to go out. There's no reason to risk losing just to earn some chips when everyone in the money gets paid the same.
@soulhunger1 You're completely right in that situation. Even Erik lingerin says you shouldnt even know you have aces in those situations because u'r wasting other people's time by even checking because you really shouldnt be playing any hand. However, if you are in bubble or in late game you should really gamble with kings or better.You can go for 1st place because 1st - 3rd place has most of the chipsThere's no point of making extra few bucks and get into money when there's big money up there
wow i had no idea i commented on this video 5 months ago, lol at me. seriously though, i guess if you know you are not that good and youll never get to ft's of this size, the 6.5k might be worth waiting for. but AQ would be a bad fold if youre trying to win. honestly the only bad play i see potentially is calling with the 44. if you are folding aq there you might as well just sit out dude.
In early position, you may fold 100 % of the hands and I wont criticize (you can get call by a better hand with a lot of players behind you ; if they call to see the flop, you are out of position ; if they fold, you wont win a lot of money). Hands like AJ or AQ are less good than many people think.
AQ maybe not only since the Shortstack had less than the BB. but you still push with KK and AA. cause look at all the hands that call, (I.E. 44) thats a nice stack to work with if you win. so theres that. Mightve been a good limp. Also, do we know really what the guys bankroll was? I dont know. AQ is not a bad fold. but KK would be a terrible fol in my opinion. Any comments?
I disagree with your analysis...5 handed, AQ suited, all in wasn't necessarily a bad play...chances are AQ will be the best hand in that situation...I agree with what you say about it being a bankroll decision also but seeing as how neither of us know his bankroll situation, then it wasn't as bad as you make it sound...In my opinion I would have just called under the gun and then see a flop..........
I was in an almost identical situation 2 days ago, battling for 4th/5th place. If I folded my hand the short stack would have gone out on blinds, but instead I got a full house and LOST against the big stack, causing me to miss on the prizes. I wish I had just folded my hand for a guaranteed prize.
I completely agree with everything you've said, and would like to add two things.
One, if you are a big stack and the guys with a middle sized stack have half a brain, you can really brutalize them by taking advantage of the fact that they can't afford to bust. If they are in the big blind, raise before the flop and on every street until they fold.
Great analysis, Marty! That's a lesson that most people learn the hard way (i.e. by being busted out a hand or two before the super-short stack) so you've posted a great example for folks to learn from! (Myself, I've often *been* that super-short stack who moved up 1 or 2 or even 3 spots as the bigger stacks took stupid chances ^_^ )
I think the call with pocket 4s is waaay waaay worse then the all in with the AQs
Yoyotrain93 6 months ago 2
AQ is premium holdings in 5 handed, cant hate on him for going all in there. He was coming for that number one spot. Whats the difference between 6th and 1st?i think 63 k, probably aint gonna see another hand better than AQ if ur just gonna blind out
Acesfull27 8 months ago
Ur right .. sometimes it;s just better to fold and wait till the other player is out
ironinge 9 months ago
If your looking just to cash,..but if you wanna get 1st position then dont fold aces preflop in a headsup pot...
PokeSpadez123 9 months ago
Hypothetical KK fold or not, depends on bankroll situation imho. Good point Marty.
Ridabu 10 months ago
Calling with 44 in the SB? LOL
OCPARKWAY 1 year ago
callig with 4's was retarded......but going alling with AQ was just as stupid if youre not the short stack....costed himself 6,500 what a fool....the other guy didnt even have enough for a full Big blind. idiot
kemoblue4u 1 year ago
called him with fours ?
tommy444able 1 year ago
do you play with real money on fulltiltpoker
TheMultiwilliam 1 year ago
the site is a scam man. Eveyr hand is a set up hand just like that. i find it funny how when you flop trips you always flop it where there is a possible straight or flush opportunity. Its veyr predictable also. If the flop is 67 Ace, u hit the ace and somebody has 89. Another ace will flop of course, and then the river will be a ten. The site sets you up
ronaldmarietindall 1 year ago
this is an obvious shove, if ur worried about ratting up the money scale u shouldnt be playing mtts, play sngs until u have enough bankroll to be confident about going for 1st in a big mtt. the only play that is bad here is the call with 44. seriously marty if ur folding kk here then why the fuck are u playing the tournament.
fitzy431 1 year ago 4
raise with AQ, fold to an all-in if that happens. It's much harder for him to call or raise you with the pocket fours in his hand.. rather than be the second to last one and make a call as a possible flip. Shoving here is ridiculously bad..
GoNets27 1 year ago
i dont understand why AQ suited shoving utg is a bad move?
He was playing for first. theres a good argument that could be made there,
a $6500 difference between 5th and 4th...when that all in would have very likely either got him flipping or had him as a favourite if somebody called weak enogh like AJ or mabey KQ. however 6.5k in relation to 30k difference between 1st and 2nd....
IMakeBoringVideos 1 year ago
@IMakeBoringVideos I agree. It's so standard, he's trying to pick up the blinds and antes with a standard shove with <10 BBs. Why would you care about the $6.5k when you've just made $20k? He was going for the $80k. A fold here would make me puke.
acske 8 months ago
Funny how people say "he's a pro, he has money, it's the correct shove." So because they're a pro, they have tons of money? Some pros don't do so well. Also, if they do have money, ignore the increases in money altogether? If you do that, then you're missing out on guaranteed money every tourney. Over a period of tourneys, that is a huge difference. If they have money, and miss out on opportunities to place higher this might be the difference in having a high bankroll. You guys aren't thinking.
shanemc68 1 year ago
never throw away kings in that position..., there's a 6500 dif between 4th and 5th but a 60k dif between first and second
GGRSC 1 year ago
xD lol The music ;)
justfold1 2 years ago
for me, the decision can go either way. if your just looking for the extra money, then folding would be correct. but Michael Craig is a pro and has plenty of money and im sure he was looking for 1st place. if that is the case, then pushing with AQ was correct in my opinion.
litoaznkid1129 2 years ago 5
50%-50%
solks 2 years ago
AQ is the correct shove for a pro, if you have a huge bankroll like most of the pros do then you should really be playing to win, but if it was an average player like me was at the final table then i think AQ would be the correct fold.
10crow 2 years ago 6
I know some people say "never fold Kings preflop", but I think such a statement is silly. In some situations, it is beneficial to fold any hand, including aces. For example, being second in chips in a double or nothing sit-n-go during bubble play, facing an all-in raise from the chip leader. It is mathematically better to fold aces in that spot, and wait for a shorter stack to go out. There's no reason to risk losing just to earn some chips when everyone in the money gets paid the same.
soulhunger1 2 years ago 16
I agree. I think AA is one of the most common bubble hands.
Muchodelcrazy 2 years ago
AA KK AK and AQ but not as much, when you look at the WSOP, it's crazy ^^
SerialThrillr 2 years ago
@soulhunger1 You're completely right in that situation. Even Erik lingerin says you shouldnt even know you have aces in those situations because u'r wasting other people's time by even checking because you really shouldnt be playing any hand. However, if you are in bubble or in late game you should really gamble with kings or better.You can go for 1st place because 1st - 3rd place has most of the chipsThere's no point of making extra few bucks and get into money when there's big money up there
jparkfosho 2 years ago
@soulhunger1 Is this a joke? If you don't play to win, then what's the point?
lollerz16 1 year ago 2
@soulhunger1 I would think that's common sense.
rocaho001 7 months ago
wow i had no idea i commented on this video 5 months ago, lol at me. seriously though, i guess if you know you are not that good and youll never get to ft's of this size, the 6.5k might be worth waiting for. but AQ would be a bad fold if youre trying to win. honestly the only bad play i see potentially is calling with the 44. if you are folding aq there you might as well just sit out dude.
WantsRealAnswers 3 years ago
Doyle Brunson doesn't play AQ, and he has 10 WSOP bracelets.
gaud123 3 years ago 12
In early position, you may fold 100 % of the hands and I wont criticize (you can get call by a better hand with a lot of players behind you ; if they call to see the flop, you are out of position ; if they fold, you wont win a lot of money). Hands like AJ or AQ are less good than many people think.
ColonelHarry 3 years ago
AQ maybe not only since the Shortstack had less than the BB. but you still push with KK and AA. cause look at all the hands that call, (I.E. 44) thats a nice stack to work with if you win. so theres that. Mightve been a good limp. Also, do we know really what the guys bankroll was? I dont know. AQ is not a bad fold. but KK would be a terrible fol in my opinion. Any comments?
WantsRealAnswers 3 years ago
I disagree with your analysis...5 handed, AQ suited, all in wasn't necessarily a bad play...chances are AQ will be the best hand in that situation...I agree with what you say about it being a bankroll decision also but seeing as how neither of us know his bankroll situation, then it wasn't as bad as you make it sound...In my opinion I would have just called under the gun and then see a flop..........
LEECH44 3 years ago
I was in an almost identical situation 2 days ago, battling for 4th/5th place. If I folded my hand the short stack would have gone out on blinds, but instead I got a full house and LOST against the big stack, causing me to miss on the prizes. I wish I had just folded my hand for a guaranteed prize.
TurangaBLEU 3 years ago
Has to be a bankroll decision too.
TurtleKnife 3 years ago
I completely agree with everything you've said, and would like to add two things.
One, if you are a big stack and the guys with a middle sized stack have half a brain, you can really brutalize them by taking advantage of the fact that they can't afford to bust. If they are in the big blind, raise before the flop and on every street until they fold.
MachineManX51 4 years ago
what a donkey :D
theperserker 5 years ago
Great analysis, Marty! That's a lesson that most people learn the hard way (i.e. by being busted out a hand or two before the super-short stack) so you've posted a great example for folks to learn from! (Myself, I've often *been* that super-short stack who moved up 1 or 2 or even 3 spots as the bigger stacks took stupid chances ^_^ )
simonjeste 5 years ago 6
what an awful move, 44 tight call though
cobe2001 5 years ago