BlackBerry Torch 9800 review - part 3 of 3

[TheRokiezas]

The type of Internet do you use a cell or wifi

[shahbaaz59]

Is blackberry app world have better games than ovi?please answer

[dackar1]

hey men. sould i buy blackberry torch 9800, or HTC Inspire???? and also i have one question, what type of GPS does blackberry torch 9800 have?? it is satellite, or GSM Gps?

[zack5417]

My samsung flight if you leave alone it would go for 6 DAYS:)

[OblVionWatchmen]

Honestly Blackberry is so much better cause for i[hpne yu need to jail break to get themes and blackberry you dont you may ask why i say cause Blackberry`S BETTER !!

[NHLcrazy95]

Blackberry torch 2 or iPhone 5? (When they come out)

[DalalJ99]

@NHLcrazy95 Thats what I was wondering, but look at it like this: Blackberries are like ready built houses with every thing you need in them, you can accessorize your house with new apps from blackberry app world. But the iPhone is like an empty house that you have to decorate and design the way you want it, so you can put apps and games and all that. I'm gonna get a torch, because even the simplest things you can't ALWAYS find them on the iPhone, you need to download them, bb has it all ready.

[pplimfilipino]

My youtube sucks on my torch but my cousins torch has Great, almost HD quality on his youtube. Can anyone help me please?

[OblVionWatchmen]

@pplimfilipino get the youtube application and it should help some more and if that doesnt work then use wifi it runs your youtube faster that way and doesnt use your mega bytes

[funkychap]

You have to turn the keyboard shortcuts on from the Options in the browser.

[kmsoldier100]

This was a really good review...

[docwalker100]

it's a damn site better than the supposed SMART HTC Mzart wp7...infact i'm ditchinng the xbox phone for this 1

[adeliairnawan]

i like this! it's cool man! :D

[MrOhennigan]

Respond is love it at 15%off at NOBAGSGREEN

[Ian1329]

when i get this phone, i'm updating it to a leaked release of 6.

[yz978]

going strait to the shops first thing this morning and i will get this phone WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

[bowtiechick100]

I have the white Blackberry Torch and I LOVE it!!! its my babyy

[sitinurulazeerah]

can anyone help me on this, does blackberry 9800 torch have Tactile keypads for text messaging? :) thank you, appreciate it if anyone could help :)

[AphelionXII]

Two Things:

1.) Is there a different mode for that digital keyboard

2.) Is that facebook thing a glitch or has blackberry fixed it yet?

[masterhide]

@AphelionXII That facebook thing happens on older phones too. All he needed to do was let the page fully load & go back to it later, & the user name would have been there. Browsers just aren't the best here, sorry RIM.

[rdjnapoli]

@AphelionXII yes there is a different mode there is the full qwerty, i have no idea why he didnt show that one and yaa the facebook thing has been fixed and if not u just have to wait for the whole page to reload.

[q87soonz]

bb torch or galaxy s or iphone 4 ?

[Noble1Carter]

Eh, I never used keyboard shortcuts for the browser anyway....I always hit the menu key

[jamyee]

facebook user goes away if you give it time to load

[unlock4all]

unlock Blackberry -->  misophones . com

[DaShazamz]

Do you need to pay for the internet to use Facebook?

[masterhide]

@DaShazamz No, you just pay monthly for a data plan.

[bbbthatme]

battery life is better then most smart phone

[realdf2]

i very much like that you mentioned how it isnt too top heavy. havent found a review yet that mentioned that. thank you.

[stasihdae]

how to set up blackberry messenger?????

[Lexxee123]

@stasihdae oh um idk......it just works for me

[stasihdae]

@Lexxee123 ok. thanks

[ihearu2007]

is there a loud clicking sound when typing on the keyboard or is it silent? please reply

[Lexxee123]

@ihearu2007 Yes there is a click you can fell and hear :)

[stasihdae]

@Lexxee123 How to set up BBM?

[Lexxee123]

@stasihdae

sorry what do you mean "how to set up BBM" ?

[iraqlov1]

how do you download the app world ?

[iFLYq8y]

does the blackberry torch have 3g or just 2g edge ??

[TheSkitzs]

you re a dick

john4lakers

[YoDaddy513]

should i get this or the bold 9700?

[mileyfan98]

@YoDaddy513 This.

[SongAndMobiles]

@YoDaddy513 get this .. because the bold 9700 has key board , so does this . it has wifi so does this , but does bold have touch screen .. no ..

[mandy21554]

@SongAndMobiles welll u cant argue with that cuz that is a very good point that ur gettin across

[TheMrOye]

@YoDaddy513 Go for torch

[KaitieAMV]

@YoDaddy513 Torch.

[killjone]

Do you think that the Blackberry Storm 2 is better than the Torch in anyways(performance,browser,et­c?).I'm planning to buy one but i'm still confused.

[lloydee1983]

@killjone had both. storm is better than you would ever believe, but torch is awesome

[KayosQuinn]

Can you lock down the screen's orientation like on an iPhone?

[hotingfai]

Though the touch scroll is a bit choppy, but it really has much better calendar and summary view than iphone. my wife has an iphone and i have an ipod, it is so difficult to set it up as a productivity tool, but BB is born to do that. Now i am going to get BB with OS6, but have to choose between 9800 and 9780.

[vickymhamer]

Blackberry Torch 9800 or HTC Wildfire ??

[tracker0Zero]

@vickymhamer

Blackberry Torch or HTC Desire HD... that's what I'm actually thinking about..

[wearing2gloves]

@vickymhamer torch all the way... you really miss the keyboard if you dont have it... htc wildfire is slow and becomes a pain to use (from experience)

[KaitieAMV]

@vickymhamer Torch

[scootrider91]

what phone do you use?

[brunotravers]

i think it looks very useful. i have always been a nokia man but as the times are changing and their smartphones are rubbish. I like how Blackberry's actually do what they are meant to do with no fuss which you cant say for even Apple. If you want to get good pictures buy a camera. I want a phone for all things communication and this looks like a good one!

[RockstarRameez]

Fantastic video... how wud u compare this to the iphone 4 Michael?

[NathanPerrott]

A touchscreen on the 9700 would be my ideal Blackberry. Of course with OS 6 and updated camera.

[RK831]

I presently use a 9700 and it works just fine for my needs. However, after watching this review I get the impression that RIM is trying to compete with iPhone and Android, with disappointing results. I'd rather buy an iPhone 4, Evo 4G or Captivate than the 9800, and I can buy Evos and Captivates for far less than what 9800's are going for on eBay.

[SilentServiceCode]

this phone is *almost* there, but if you're not swayed by a physical keyboard, just go iPhone. I'm disappointed that the music player is still archaic and has no homescreen status updates like Android or iOS, and the video camera is obviously shite.

[FudgieBoobs]

You seem to know a lot about phones, what do you suggest for me to buy? I need a smartphone that has a good camera and a lot of apps. (Of course not too expensive)

[DjLouisFerdinand]

i hope that the OS 6 will be updated to solve the bugs problems...but for be a new OS is great...

[DjLouisFerdinand]

Why RIM dont make this phone with a 1Ghz or more processor...LoL

[mushismad]

just ordered mine £40 18 month contract, phones 4 u PLUS THE PHONE IS FREE

[SynisterFiend]

fuck...cant watch porn on this phone browser sucks....=(

[likespaintball]

does anyone know when this phone comes to canada?

[ihockey09]

@likespaintball sept 29, sept 30, or oct 1. one of those days depending on your carrier

[lversonAllDaWay]

@likespaintball september 30

[SynisterFiend]

@likespaintball

you can order it now online with bell

and its comming out in the markets in sept 30.

hope it helped :)

[jeffreybpc]

i would like to ask how can i make sure that im using wifi to browse the website? n also, can the device keylock whenever i slide in the keyboard? Thx.

[powen001]

excellent report...Thanks. I will invest in this device because of your report...hopefully by the time I pick one up they would have sorted most of the bugs exposed here sorted.

More Pros than cons thus far...but for the record I will have my original Bold sitting close..just in case. :-D

[powen001]

excellent report...Thanks. I will invest in this device because of your report...hopefully by the time I pick one up they would have sorted most of the bugs exposed.

More Pros than cons thus far...but for the record I will have my original Bold sitting close..just in case. :-D

[psp785]

the browser still sucks 

[SynisterFiend]

@psp785

yea cant watch porn on it it sucks...=(

[DavidGooddy]

how do you find the battery life on the torch? and great review!

[JasnoGT]

Firmware updates should help work out the initial bugs on this device. This is just the first generation. Faster processors, high res larger screens will be coming in the future

Pretty impressive for a BB. Im with sprint and have an 8530(gonna get 9650) and also have an HTC Hero. I love the touchscreen on Hero but I really like the blandish, subtle UI on BB (and keyboard) so I go back and forth and use the device that fits my mood. I really like this one. Just not gonna jump to Att yet though.

[theonlim]

Is there any chances of them improving the lag on this thing?

The lag is definitely one of the main killers of the Torch.

[TechBoy1980]

my BB bold 9650 battery lasts a half a day. I have 2 back up batteries. All original BBerry batteries. no knockoffs from ebay.

my tour was the same. if the torch battery lasts a whole day, thats impressive.

[pianoalvin]

uhmm do you know a website or a company that sell them overseas I want to buy one

[billybishop911]

of all the smartphones you've seen, which one do you use on a daily basis?

[pianoalvin]

hey how much is this blackberry with out a contract ?

[lakerboy16]

@pianoalvin 499 no commitment

[HeyItsCoop]

@pianoalvin

almost 600 dollars.

[pianoalvin]

@HeyItsCoop hey how about I-phone do you know how much is it with out contract ?

[HeyItsCoop]

@pianoalvin $599.

[Soccer84de]

thank you for this review, I definitely want this! Although that battery-thing (< 2 day standby?) makes me thoughful.

Do you have any idea when the torch is going to be available for purchase in germany / europe?

Thank you again for your review

jay

[internetmemesftw]

i really want to like this phone, but i feel that RIM really needs to step their game up if they want to maintain their dominance in the smartphone market. To me, this phone needs a better browser, faster processor, HD recording and better camera, higher resolution and larger screen, improved OS and app store, and better memory capabilities( I mean u can only store apps on the measly 512 mb flash memory? Ugh) This phone is good but not enough to slow down Android and Apple. Cmon RIM!

[TheMasterDio]

@internetmemesftw this phone is in a completely different class then android and apple, blackberries are meant for business, not pleasure and fun.

[SupTJay]

@internetmemesftw lol you clearly don't know what you're talking about

[R4gN4r0k478]

@internetmemesftw meh, id rather have this as a phone, and have an ipod touch as a media, music, camera, app device... the iphone and alot of the android devices are mainly for apps and have a shit phone

[seanc2462]

@internetmemesftw Well said.

[internetmemesftw]

@seanc2462 thanks :). anyways, i did end up getting this phone, mainly because im tired of apple's horible product cycles. i have to say its not bad! i mean the resolution is ntb considering the screen size. apps are a problem if u want alot of them tho, but it does business apps well imo. i havent had any major lag issues with the processor, and the browser is much better than older bb. that being said i still hope they implement some of the changes mentioned, but it is a good business device.

[pattycarljackson]

@internetmemesftw but you gotta think about it this is the first bb phone to have os6 and when you think about the people who gets blackberries dont abuse the use of the phone like its browser and dont mind the not lightning fast browser but it is fast enough for what it is needed for. plus blackberry is used for email messaging and social networking and buisness apple and android suck in that category such as email and messaging both phone lack that blackberry takes over int hat part

[623lippylol623]

@internetmemesftw Why has it always got to be a competition? This is an amazing phone! Who needs all that you have listed for normal day to day use?

[ranjo1965]

Michael, did you find the overall experience of the 9800 and OS 6 to be consistently reliable?

[phillyprodigy09]

you did a fantastic job with reviewing this phone. went into everything!!!! even going into the social apps is what people want to see :)

[ZachChen1996]

the ui looks sooo ugly

[ppartin1]

3 years too late !!

[CmewhenICu]

Gee, I didn't like it before it came out and as expected due in part to Micheal's good review, I hate it even more. What an absolute FLOP!!! I'm soooo glad I ditched RIM 5 months ago. My BB friends ask me when am I coming back and I always reply with, "..for what?? For this??" This is a prime example of a HUGE handset manufacturer resting on its laurels of 2007 and being absolutely lazy. Tinker with the browser and fiddle with the OS and everything else is rehashed and recycled.

[aronn635]

this is like the symbian browser on nokia phones.it sucks really bad.

[RobynHode8]

Like the G1 when it was first released on T-Mobile, we will have to wait for some software updates and a faster processor. It looks like an excellent phone--it's just not quite ready yet. 

[dmaltz19]

Just got it.. not gna lie, its way too laggy



[TheGervon]

@dmaltz19 umm im sorry but what do you mean by laggy?

[dmaltz19]

@TheGervon Laggy, as in it has a slow processor, ie it lags. If you have ever used an iphone 4 or even iphone 3gs you will realize that it does not 'lag'. The OS is smooth. I love blackberry, and only use them.. but, i'm finding that the cell is simply underpowered. Also, the screen in noticeably less clear than other blackberries and half as clear as any other current touch screen. If it wasn't for great e-mail and bbm i'd be gone.

[TheGervon]

@dmaltz19 lol oh ok boss thanks alot for letting me know

[deese64]

Good review. RIM really dropped the ball on this one.

[TheNastyNaz]

you can enable keyboard shortcuts in browser options in 6.0 It's disabled by default

[therevivedone]

RIM needed to bring a powerhouse to the market, and they came out with the torch. OS 6 has promise, but it needs a more powerful device with a larger screen/resolution.

[JunKKandy]

This phone sucks

[ig33ku]

Is this gonna be one of ur main phone Michael?

[mobileburn]

@ig33ku There's no real chance of that, no.

[ig33ku]

@mobileburn well am waiting for the dual-core snapdragons to come out before i get a new main phone... apparently i jumped the gun with my Touch2....

[TinyTitian]

@mobileburn lol well wat would be ur real phone window mobile based android based palm based or just a feature phone ??? or lol im so gona rofl if u say symbian based

[Priscilla060]

@mobileburn lol this is outdated this looks like my palm pre why would i want this in 2010 when we have the evo droid x iphone 4 incredible samsung s???? cmon rim give me something new

[VanceJoudrey]

@Priscilla060 Samsungs are terrible, but I agree with the rest.

[613themacs]

@mobileburn What is your main phone?

[jjrosaria2]

@mobileburn Do you mind if I ask what your personal phone is??

[shikaru18]

@mobileburn

what do you use for

your main phone ?

[daviotubax]

@mobileburn what is your choice of main phone then?

[aasiannxlove]

@mobileburn the what phone are you using... and if you recommend it

[pacmanremix]

@mobileburn if no then what is ?

[RockRobin360]

@mobileburn what phone do you prefer?

[shadowflame1976]

@mobileburn

why not? this phone is very good and works properly.

[loserfreaks]

@mobileburn why not though ?

[otbway]

@mobileburn if you had to choose ur main phone at this time what would you choose ?

[CygnusRoc]

@mobileburn Michael, have you heard any news about the release of the blackberry storm 3 on Verizon's network?

[pattycarljackson]

@CygnusRoc they canceled the production and release of that phone

[CygnusRoc]

@pattycarljackson I've still been hearing that it's coming out in 2011. Where does it say it's been cancelled for sure?

[pattycarljackson]

@CygnusRoc go on google and type in blackberry storm 3 cancelled

[CygnusRoc]

@pattycarljackson I think you're looking at old updates, bud. The reports saying it was cancelled are from around September or October. The latest report from 4 days ago says the bosses at RIM are planning to release the storm 3 in January 2011.

[pattycarljackson]

@CygnusRoc okay my bad sorry for the miss information

[CygnusRoc]

@pattycarljackson That's ok

[Deathinnovember]

That's odd, on every blackberry facebook app I've used. It just said whatever my name was on facebook and had my picture.

[nedmo112]

100th viewer !!! :)

[crumcon]

wow browser still as weak as the previous one. 

[wndrshwzn]

next 2 rim phones should be 1 with a horizontal slider and one with just a touch screen.

get those hardware specs up with everyone else, dont do exclusive carrier releases and rim may not drop off the face of the earth like the kin and palm

[Deathinnovember]

@wndrshwzn Are you serious? RIM accounts for up to 25% of ALL phones sold. When you have a strangle hold on a quarter of the market you're not going anywhere ... do your research brosef.

[wndrshwzn]

@Deathinnovember i know rims position. how long do you think they will hold that with apple and google constantly increasing their user base? bb is a great phone and os 6 looks good.

rim needs to offer more choices to attract NEW buyers not just maintain current users

[dunhill919]

Good phone.THUMPS UP !

[stefanmetodijev]

@dunhill919 *thumbs

[dunhill919]

@stefanmetodijev My |3 letter is proken :(

[RNRMRMONEYRNR]

frist viwe yayayayaya