Those suicide riders didn't exist...Some historians say there were light cavalry called manghits but they weren't suicide units just units used to absorb arrow fire.
@yan99992 Obviously the suicide riders are the plan... I'm just saying, why, if the archers in the beginning are skilled enough to shoot inches away from that guy (I forget what his name is), why can't they avoid shooting their own men. Just seems silly.
Don't get me wrong, this is one of my favorite movies!
Doubt it was even CLOSE to a million. But they were heavely outnumbered. Had it been an even playing field, the mughals would have gotten massacred every single time.
@commonsen5e Very rarely in ancient times my friend, will you find the forces in the creation of an empire favorites in technological advances and numbers. The leaders of those empires were often great military strategists like Alexander the Great, Julius Ceasar, Sun Tzu, Ghengis Khan here. They were great because they fight their opponenets and not their army. Sun Tzu was credited in beating a nation which had an army of 600,000 men with 30,000. It is all strategy and knowing people.
@arodspecialist Yes, that's common knowledge, I agree with you. My point was IF IT WERE EVEN numbers, it wouldn't have been fair. Rarely ever were any muslim armies invading India 'outnumbered' by the Indians. The sword fighting techniques in India were on a COMPLETELY different level. Shastar Vidya, Ghatka etc. I've tried finding muslim style sword fighting techniques, it's rare to find. They just had brute force in numbers. All those leaders you named are definitely legendsin military tactics.
@commonsen5e Ahh, now I understand. Yes, even numbers would not have been fair under the leadership of legends. Techniques as you mentioned are agreed as being key components of an impressive attacking force in the ancient world. respect for those who have made them lethal as they are. I do hope the world can have the capacity to learn more than the norm and know that there were great Persian, Muslim, Indian, and Siam empires too. Surely, they did not come to be with wishful thinking.
@arodspecialist In this movie the scene where the mongols are riding down on their horses in a straight line and then the line behind them spread out, You think that was an actual tactic they used ? It looks fucking pshycotic.
@commonsen5e Sure it does, but we were never born in those times so we can not verified. However, they have been known to use "Chi-an Ren Duai" (Chinese) diversion tactics using thousand count squads to infiltrate enemies only to retreat and draw opponents larger forces into a set trap. Regardless, they all look BADASS ;)
this movie is bullshit it is a wrong history of movie. never Genghis had been like that Oh my god u should shy russian son also u need read more thank you for your wrong movie
@uyanga2melody This is a movie. And we are not born at that time to know EXACTLY what happened. We can only form perspectives by what was passed down historically by Mongolians and/or by the people they have beaten. If you are Russian, deal with the fact that Ghengis Khan went deep into Russian soil and his descendants ruled those territories for 300+ years. Chinese had to deal with that fact also of being taken over. It is history and nothing can disprove Ghengis' legacy as it is written.
Ogatai emerged carriying his father's bow and declared: "This storm is not yet finished. I still hear the sound of lightening and it strikes in Poland ."
Old wolves do not die gracefully . Wwarriors their entire lives, they do not know how to live when they grow old and their fangs fall out, such it is with Mongols as well . Genghis Khan called in his three sons, they found their father before a fire, delirious with pain. "My descendents will wear gold," he said. "They will eat the finest meats and ridr the finest horses and forget to whom they owe it all ." And he refused to die until Ogatai his 3rd son promised to continue the war .
Chingis khan made biggest land empire, so u can deal with the fact, instead of predicting that who ever never heard guy is better than anyone. mongols had many strong rulers, before and after chingis khan. Moghul empire sacked india. whatever that is . fact is fact kiddo. chinggis khan is best. just think if mongols focused only in india hahaha, i dunno
You can't just say that Mongols were the best right off the bat dude.
I mean, look at the Spartans. 300 of them and 7000 other Greeks held the last line of defense for Greece. The 300 only lost a few and just them alone they kill thousands within hours. They were outnumbered of a ratio of 1 to 50. In my opinion, Spartans were always the best.
@TheKL3Shay Actually, it was a good tactic-beyond looking really cool. They were called "suicide riders", who unlike suicide bombers, were brave, not suicidal-participating in high-risk operations & in the charge-which the horses seldom survived-used their horses as battering rams, simply slamming into enemy horses or leaping over shield-walls, onto heads of infantrymen below. Often armored, body & steed, to increase momentum & assist in melee. (often for ambush, distraction or creating chaos).
Mongolians conquered iran and afkhan they probably fought war elephants, iranian kingdom at the time was one of strongest leader was called ceasar. mongols never stopped, no force could stop them, india never expended, mongols never had interest they were busy conquering arab land. so one sided rooney kid stop blabbering. u pathetic. war elephant.. blablabla. mongols were first gun powder weapon users, they wouda kill and scare all the elephants before they come. learn mongol campaign in europe
and all other emperors failed alexander wants to conquer india but was afraid of nanda dynasty temujin was never satisfied no emperor was hence not able to complete their journey and thats why that present day mongol or alexander empire is divided into different country whereas ashoka the gr8 region is still known as indian subcontinent , only iran is not counted.
leave all this the theory of non violence by mahatma gandhi martin luther king nelson mandela is simply copy of king siddhratha and emperor ashok.
emperor ashok is comparable to jesus christ and buddha and not to other emperors.
their was a famous line during his exile ashoka was told by a buddhist monk his destiny transcends emperor destiny because all emperors are common people , the answer was the man traveller who completes his journey is the most superior person.
SO my dearest friends pump up your knowledge and dont come up with absurd and never heard before theroies.
temujin was anti muslim and almost wiped out muslim , whereas mughals were one on the son or desecdents of temujin maybe he fucked 4-5 muslims and they come from those sluts.
and at last buddhism a religion started by a hindu king is in majority in mongol and ofcourse two biggest names in buddhism king siddhartha(buddha himself) and emperor ashok both were hindus.
your theory sucks badly mughals were mongol then selucid empire is mauryan empire.
mongol empire was not a muslim empire whereas mughal empire was muslim empire.
and about mongols they were never able to grab anny peice of land of india at all go and see their map , you will know.
its god planning at the same time no two great emperors ever born. alexander was not when chandragupta maurya was their. ashoka was not their when temujin was.
he was almost killed by army of 20000man and 100 war elephants whereas the then ruler of magadha NANDA empire has army of 3lac infantry 80k cavalry and most important the deadliest weapon on earth that time war elephnats that too 6000 elephants.
if temujin faced even the nandas he would be beaten to death but fortunately he faced those empires who suxx. and dont have war elephants.
indian hindus were too briliant they even taught wild tusks to fck the rival enemies.
and sorry i am not sure but heard and read that temujin was killed by a princess of rival group who hides something in her vagina which kills the great temujin infact its a shameful death for a gr8 millitary leader.
and one more thing temujin was living in dream he never faced any empire which was too powerful rememeber alexander the gr8 he beat a much bigger army of darius easily but against a hindu king of afghan pak porus he was almost killed and it is written he was afraid of indians king
and wait atlast who won genghis or ashoka the answer is ashoka his symbols are now the symbol of a country that is considered as top 4 countries in millitary super power INDIA , india is going to have 5th gen fighter much before chinese 2nd class fighters. and now a hindu king buddha(king siddhartha) rules china korea mongol thailand, atlast ashoka the great tactics won over the barbaric metheods of temujin he was greatest military leader no doubt but not the greatest emperor.
thats why mauryan empire take control of afghan pak and iran and if you have any knowledge of history he didnt capture europe because of two reasons the empire selucid empire was the empire of his grandmother as slecudi nicator daughter was married to his grandfather chandragupta maurya and 2nd the % population under his empire was 34% of total worlds population much higher than mongol and mughal empire. only 3-4 kingdoms have higher %age with highest being 44% .
moelicious first come out of dream genghis khan was no real name and neither he was a muslim infact his natives now follow buddhism a religion formed by a hindu buddha(king siddhartha). go and see what temujin(khan meaning is leader, khans are not real muslims) did with muslims he killed 20 lacs muslim in war with some muslim empire in middle east and mughals are not direct relatives of temujin, they were one of the descendent as we know he has many sons maybe fucked a muslim bitch somehwere.
at one side we are the most liberal towards any religion ranging from abdul kalam azad to apj abdul kalam to srk salman aamir and all other as well same goes for christian as well and for sikhs as well but if someone try to create a divide or play religion card politics then unfortunately he will be given death sentence by the hindu community so live with brotherhood and forgot your religion but if try to play oversmart then your grave will be made in india maybe alexander knew this.
and about how india is a superpower we are retainign kashmir and telling all muslim countries and china to go to hell and even if india has to kill the whole kashmiri population of muslims india will not let any one down . to unite this country true indians can give their life but will not be behind in killing lacs of kashmiri muslims as well.
so cheers india is a superpower it is to be watched when it overtooks USA. maybe 50 years will be more than enough when INDIA>>usa. hahahah
and it was pretty shame that genghis khan died in one of the wars mongols will not accept it but this is truth, just as westerners will not accept but the writings prove khan was killed in a war.
and tell me from where does genghis khan belong to if india sees an opporunity indian forces will take that area by peace or violence and will develop it.
and about genghis army it was pretty small one the only reason for his win he never faced a tough opponent .
so grow up boy india was superpower from the begining and now in the modern era most european nations america russia have said that they will support for india in UNSC seat including britain germany france , the only obstacle is china but at the end china too will support india, china is anguished over india only because of dalai lama otherwise india and china have strong relations dating back to time of king siddharth and the origination of martial arts.
genghis khan empire population was never more than 25% of world one reason he never proceed towards his graveyard(india).
hindu empire such as mauryan nanda kushan gupta prous reigned on your muslim popultaion infact at that times their was only 3 religion hindu buddhisht and jainism but still he ruled till iran iraq but instead of killing them with brutality he respect them thats why today india as a superpower of world don ashoka symbols like"ashok chakra" or our national emblem.
this is a fact that most foreign powers were afraid of india or more specifically indian subcontinent. when chadragupta maurya defeated selucus nicator the biggest general of alexander he married off her daughter in desperation to save the europe and other parts infact mauryans were never intersted in too much of land because they knew that under their empire was around 34% of the worlds population which is 4th or 5th highest top empire was with 44% but without a emperor like great ashok.
chochochocho alexander was afraid of indian empire ofcourse when he cannot beat the smallest kingdom in india with ease , the nandas will force him to run nude in india if he even think of enteering their land. and the same huge kingdom was defeated by chandragupta maurya who was not king of anywhere but with him was the biggest conspirator of the world ever chankaya , according to the writings under his guidance chandragupta maurya defeated 500times bigger army than themseleves. oh my god.
while its banks on the further side were covered with multitudes of men-at-arms and horsemen and elephants. For they were told that the kings of the Ganderites and Praesii were awaiting them with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand war elephants
As for the Macedonians, however, their struggle with Porus blunted their courage and stayed their further advance into India. For having had all they could do to repulse an enemy who mustered only twenty thousand infantry and two thousand horse, they violently opposed Alexander when he insisted on crossing the river Ganges also, the width of which, as they learned, was thirty-two furlongs, its depth a hundred fathoms,
live in your dream mongols never dare to look at india want to know the reason maybe ghenghis khan knew wat happened to alexander the so called great.
alexander was fear of nanda who was eventually beaten by chandragupta maurya infact at last selucus nicator married off her daughter to chandragupta maurya so that he did not attack on europe which he didnt and infact accept jain religion .
@ROONEYGIBBS6 genghis khan's grnadson, Timur destroyed india though. he built the mongol dynasty in india and his offsprings built the taj mahal. the mongol dynasty was the last before the british ruled india.
india the top 5 nation of the world has its national emblem of that of mauryan empire , and more importantly buddhism religion exist due to ashoka the great even though buddha religion was founded around 100 years before asahoka birth but when he accepted buddha religion it got publicity from it thats why international authors keep ashoka the great along with christ king siddhartha .
so grow up and tell from which country you are so that indian forces can beat the shit out of your country.
this is a fact that mongol empire was never organized till they reach one destination their was fight in their previously conquered regions.
whereas in moauryan empire generally no one dares to raise their voice one reason was the organization of this empire was far more superior and infantry around 10lac 2lac cavalry, 8000 war elephants, infact their was never any need to use such army think yourself when alexander cannot beat a small king of india with ease he would be dead in next war.
and to make it worse chandragupta maurya build an army from scratch and beat the same nanda empire and spread it till iran iraq of present day from burma and infact at that time the percentage of population under the mauryan empire was approx 34% and gdp was 80% of world.
so go to hell indians are conquering every part of the world and if want to see reality go and see did they capture india. most importantly mongols dont have the father of tricks chankaya
mr ilongkoror as soon as he see the army in front off him was of nanda empire he pisses off in his clothes and he ran away. and do you know these are not my words read the official text clearly written that he almost died in a fight with one of the smallest king of india porus. so go and refer to texts and did i mean no i dont mean india is a superpower nowdays so chill brother, alexander was defeated not in fight but even before fight.
exactly!!those two guys betrayed and handed over jamuka,and jamuka requested to be executed cause theres no point of living for him,and temujin granted him that wise,and DIDNT release him!!
and that guy that tried to kill him at young age,WASNT a general under jamuka!!and no he wasnt a prisoner in china!!and the mongol army arent consisted mostly of infantry,and the cavalries didnt look like japanese samurai
i could go on for a whole day about all the bullshits in this movie
never mongolians try to face the ire of indians nor in the future they will have the courage of to look at india. because every time they do so the world greatest emperor will reborn in the form of ashoka the great and chandragupta maurya who was the first to push alexander army out of asia winning till iran and ofcourse spreading the buddhism religion and starting the martial art called kung fu.
atleast have respect for hindus from where buddhism religion has come from.
dude..........how long in history have india NOT been colonized?the mongols,the english,almost by alexender(he died on his way to india,he wasnt defeated) and several other muslim people.india is like pakistan and iraq,always conquered and humiliated
Now that I've watched the whole thing... It wasn't impressive at all, I hate how they portray an power hungry and cruel emperor as a hermit and then skipping to him having a whole army out of nowhere. The kidnapping thing gets really tiresome if you do it 4 times...
Folks, view these battles as interpretations of what the director was trying to portray. Don't insult Mongols and Genghis Khan by belittling them, claiming that they wouldn't have such tactics. Maybe not like this, but they still practiced strategy. Genghis Khan brought tactics to Mongolia. How else would they have conquered so much land? Not just with hacking, that's for sure...
These swords looks like damascus swords. Which means they were imports. What about that one sword with a ring handle? I thought those swords were distinctively Korean swords.
The 'Suicide Twin sword; guys are awesome fighters..cant see why they were to be sacrificed. Archers couldve avoided them. They werent like present suicide bombers..go n blow yourself up. Must've taken years to train like that. Feeling bad for poor guys!
Persia didn't become a Shia country until after it was conquered by the Turko-Mongols and they established the Azeri Safavid Empire. So actually, it was the Turks who brought Shia Islam to Aryan homelands. Yet here we have a douchebag who doesn't know a thing about his history talking in praise about a murderer who killed millions of Muslims. What a pathetic little pig he is.
@BoAbkal The Turks were real SUNNI MUSLIMS you Iranian Inbred dumbass! Stop acting like you know your history becaue you dont...and no matter what you say about the Mongols.........I STILL LOVE ALL THE MONGOLS AND CHANGIS KHAN.....you peice of shit! Stop trying to make stuff up about them. We have our own history books that were not given to us by Europe like you dip shits. We know our people good. Now I gotta go, YOUR MOM and SISTERS want me again and I need my time and energy :-)
@wattanparrast Very respectful of you to talk about my mother and sister. What a fantastic Muslim you are turning out to be. As for Persia, it wasn't a Shia country until the Safavid Empire. And the Safavid Empire was mostly composed of Azeri Turks. The Khwarezmid Persian Empire was a Sunni dynasty, this is the truth. Genghis Khan and his son destroyed two Sunni Empires in Persia and Baghdad. What kind of an idiot loves a person who murdered innocent people, let alone Muslims?
@BoAbkal Another lie by an inbred Iranian who thinks he is a TURK. FUCK YOU and your intelect you think you have! You confused fuck! Shias were in Iran during the rise of the first Mongol wave. Their Shia leader was wrapped in a rug and stomped to death by MONGOL Horses and no one from arabia came to help them becasue they were Shias and they killed a MONGOL messenger who was sent to make a treaty. Now....Take your moms titty out of your mouth and FUCK OFF! LONG LIVE THE MONGOLS!!!!!!!!!!
@wattanparrast I do not think Im a Turk, I am a Turk. According to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, founder of Republic of Turkey, anyone who holds the Turkish nationality is a Turk. As for my ethnicity, I always acknowledge that Im mixed. Is there something wrong with that? You have no right to insult my family because I didnt insult yours. Secondly, you need to fix your definition of an inbred. How can a multi-racial person be considered inbred is beyond me lol.
@BoAbkal You loser, who tells you these lies anyway about the Shia fighting along side of the Mongols?? You need to get your head out of your Ass. The Mongols wrapped up the so called Shia leader in a rug and stomped him to death with their horses. THAT IS A FACT and theres a painting of it to prove it. Now fuck off and go tell your bullshit stories to someone else. YOU are a LOSER! I dont have time to waste on you no more!
@wattanparrast It seems like you do have the time for 'losers' such as myself. How sad that you, on the hand hand, pretend that you have other important things to do, yet you continue to reply to me. Haha, what a loser. Hasn't it occurred to why Hazaras are Shia? Hasn't it occurred to you why all Muslim Mongols are Shia, or why the Azeri Turks are Shia, or why Timur Lang sympathized with the Shia and fought wars against the Ottoman Sultan? He even caught the Ottoman Sultan and put him in a cage.
@wattanparrast You're right about Kemal Ataturk, I'm not defending him. However, according to his definitions and the law of Republic of Turkey, I am by definition a Turk, because I have their nationality. So no, I don't "think" I'm a Turk. Now as for your dirty Pashtun ass, it's a good thing the Hazaras are finally raping your people left and right. Mongols never liked your Aryan asses anyway, they always loved to kill dirty Pashtunis since the days of Genghis Khan.
@wattanparrast And yes, unfortunately the Shia muslims turned their backs against the Khwarezmid and Abbassid Empires when they stood with the Mongol army. This is why many Mongols who later converted to Islam embraced the Shia sect, like the Hazaras and Azeris. Otherwise Persia was at one time a Sunni Empire, like Baghdad. But after it was destroyed by the Mongols, it transformed into a Shia nation. I'm not lying, this is history. But Pashtun people have a small brain and dont understand. :)
@wattanparrast By the way, concerning the Shia muslims of Persia at the time of Genghis Khan. They stood with the Mongols because they hated the Sunni rule in Persia. And then they stood with the Mongols to fight the Abbasid caliphate. Its a big shame. As for you, you are an Afghan. Just remember how much damage this guy inflicted on your ancestors hundreds of years ago in Cent. Asia. He exterminated large numbers of Aryans such as yourself from places that are today (2010) predominantly Turkic.
@BoAbkal FUCK YOU and your SHIT face Kemal leader who started the nationalism bullshit. You are a wanna be peice of shit Turk. A real Turk would see the damage that Kemal did. He dont deserve to be called Mustafa b/c he was a traitor to his own people. He was the Europeans bitch in Turkey, and he never defeated the British, the British simply made a pact with him to abololish the Caliphate. Now I see how confused you are, you really are a peice of shit. Keep your shit stories to yourself.
Attention all, this guy that calls himself (BoAbkal) is a confused half Iranian and Half Turk who is very lost in the SAUCE and may be an Iranian Shia. He only knows what he is told and may talk bad about Changis Khan. DONT MIND HIM. Oh and by the way, Sultan Osman was a great leader of the Ottoman Turks, this guy BoAbkal.....may be on his monthly period. Just look at how he bitches like a little girl. LONG LIVE CHANGIS KHAN'S PEOPLE , the MONGOLS and HAZARRAS of AFGHANISTAN!
@wattanparrast Khwarezmid Empire was Sunni dynasty, just like Abbassid dynasty. I'm not lost in the sauce, I am alhamdillah Muslim and that's what counts. Fuck Persians, fuck Turks, fuck all of you people. Islam first, and whoever sides himself with the unbelievers is one of them, just like the Quran says. You are one of the filth.
@wattanparrast One last thing dimwit. The man you're so proud of, Genghis Khan, raped your Aryan ass and butchered all you Tocharian/Pashtuni people for years. You were mostly exterminated from Central Asia and Northern Hindustan, and for that reason you fled with your tails behind your asses to Afghanistan, where you then settled there and re-built your drowning population. The Turanians hate your Pashtun ass and theyre waiting for the day to finish you off once and for all. Good riddance.
GREAT MEN LIVE FOREVER! TIMUDGEN (CHINGIS KHAN) WILL BE REMEMBERED AS LONG AS THIS PLANET EXISTS, HE HAS HAD A GREAT IMPACT ON MANY GROUPS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD. MAY HE REST IN PEACE AND MAY WE LEARN FROM THE GOOD THINGS HE HAS LEFT BEHIND AND TAUGHT US. FREEDOM
@wattanparrast Were you high on drugs or something when you typed this up? May he rest in peace? More like, may he burn in hell. May Allah burn him in hell for eternity. This 'great man' you seem to admire left nothing for this planet other than wholesale destruction of civilizations (including your own Afghan people by the way) in addition to slaughtering millions of lives, committing mass genocides and ethnic cleansing, and humiliating the Muslims of the Abbassid Empire and Khwarezmid Empire.
@BoAbkal Listen lil nigga were you there? Did you see what happened? Did you know that they became MUSLIMS and live among our tribes ? NO! I love Changis Khan and any other man that destroys the heart of their enemy like him. I am not related to the Abbassids or the Khawarezmids. The only beef Changis had was with the Shias. I m not one. This admiration for a REAL general is a man thing son, you will never understand. Now go complain to someone else like a woman, I have lots of women already.
@wattanparrast It is well-documented in almost all credible history books of the crimes that the Mongol Empire committed when it invaded Muslim lands. One million Muslims died in Samarkand and one million more died in Baghdad. These were your Muslim brothers, you stupid dog. 'Beef with the Shias'? You asshole, he mostly killed Sunnis. In fact, some Shia stood with Genghis Khan and helped him invade Baghdad. You stupid fool, youre a slave for the Kuffar.
@BoAbkal Dude"s Its jst a film.. The history doesnt even make sense. cuz i'm Mongolian "nd i know how its end.. WTF Chinggis Khaan Was never Prisoned in China.. What A failure film.. But the Army tactics are Not wrong.. This Film is jst Makin by a failure Russian dude.. F*ck Ppl who hate Mongolia.. cuz One day its gonna happen again.. but Next time we Rule over hole the World..
Oh, and Temujin (later Genghis Khan) had been making alliances and gathering vassals since before the age of 20. Though still outnumbered by his opponents, he did have a sizeable retinue of vassals and friends to call upon as he grew in power and strength. He understood the need for class considerations, but often promoted based on merit, which had not been seen much in armies since the time of the Romans.
If they did that in real life, they better have hoped lightning wouldn't hit their swords, or they'd light up like the fourth of July... but it DID look epic.
Mongolians hate cowards like you. They deserved to die, they knew that they were Mongolian Cataphracts. Their job is to lower the enemy forces at the cost of their own lives. They tried to run away and live, so The great Temugdin shot them down.
@Romansteel13 errr, why not re use them? makes sence right? i mean if a suicide warrior does his job and returns alive then send him out agian. The mongolians were brave fighters, but hella stupid
@kai0shin woah woah, relax man you need a sence of humor. swearing isnt cool anymore. And dont you think it was kinda stupid of the suicide cataphract to stay on thier horses? agree/disagree?
He studied the weather patterns of the seasons and took his chance there would be a good storm based upon atmospheric changes. Just because it was a thousand years ago, doesn't mean people didn't pay attention to weather patterns
@Jake4595 If you think about it for a little bit you'd see that humanity's great rulers were all hordes; though not presumably in the way you would imagine them. Khan was an exceptional ruler, one of the greatest. You're just looking at the negative aspects of his life based on the nonfactual evidence surrounding him. Middle-eastern countries have displayed him as a monster for non conceptual tales.
@lorthin123 uhm i dink i know what u mean,yeah like you Qin the emperor of china?he killed and destroyed dozens of ancient chinese atifacts and religions,as well as people.but just thought that the mongols were ruthless angry horse riders who has the eye of an eagle and just destroys things up and dont really have a plan of what to do after they finish the killing.
@Jake4595 Okay first of all- Wait. What? I didn't understand most of what I couldn't comprehend because of grammar issues you have made, which is about a third of your statement. Now I will once again restate my OPINION: Khan is a great ruler. He could've continued to rule the rest of the known world if he didn't die. As much like the rest of the great rulers of past. Examples Alexander, Rome's Cezar, and others. And just because they are hordes does not mean they are not great rulers.
I wonder what Genghis Khan said to his troops before the battle. "I prayed to Tengri so don't worry, He's gonna send a thunderstorm to scare the enemy away."
man, those suicide cataphract looking troopers who led the 1st detachmen shouldve just jumped off their horse and lied down on the floor, the archers were shooting at horseback degrees. those were some pretty badass suicide mongols.
They weren't suicide Mongols. They fled. And were shot for breaking the law "Fight enemies to the end", and also by fleeing they "Betrayed their Khan"
@ienjoypaninis That's why when you're fighting against Mongols and the€y look like they're retreating, DO NOT GO AFTER THEM!!! Chances are, they've got about ten thousand more men waiting around the corner.
@gunmonkey1185 Yeah I thought that was a bit far fetched. Even though there were only 5-6 of them left, there was no reason to waste some of your best men who are your most effective killers. I think they could have made it in before the arrows, but that's just me.
it was part of genghis khan's stragey.those were obviously very skilled assasins so not only are they able to kill off alot of enemies,they also lured the enemies into their squad of archers when they fled.
about 20 sucidal riders helped brought down an entire rank of enemy cavalries,thats just an example of how genghis khan is smart enough to win huge battles
they're the Khan's elite suicide warriors, sworn to die in battle for their lord no matter what. this is why the survivors are shot down by their own archers.
Those suicide riders didn't exist...Some historians say there were light cavalry called manghits but they weren't suicide units just units used to absorb arrow fire.
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@yan99992 Obviously the suicide riders are the plan... I'm just saying, why, if the archers in the beginning are skilled enough to shoot inches away from that guy (I forget what his name is), why can't they avoid shooting their own men. Just seems silly.
Don't get me wrong, this is one of my favorite movies!
ARRRRRRRRFUL 1 month ago
Did anyone notice how Ghengis' archers shot their own cavalry?
ARRRRRRRRFUL 2 months ago 3
@ARRRRRRRRFUL ....that was the strategy...*facepalm*
yan99992 1 month ago
The success of the Mongol empire is in reality a lot have to do with Genghis Khan's wife borte. Hmm where in the world will I find a bride like that.
DilbeardAlbeard 5 months ago
@ 8:52
i thought he was thinking like "This B*tch Goan DIE "
lol
jongmagee 6 months ago
Doubt it was even CLOSE to a million. But they were heavely outnumbered. Had it been an even playing field, the mughals would have gotten massacred every single time.
commonsen5e 6 months ago
@commonsen5e Very rarely in ancient times my friend, will you find the forces in the creation of an empire favorites in technological advances and numbers. The leaders of those empires were often great military strategists like Alexander the Great, Julius Ceasar, Sun Tzu, Ghengis Khan here. They were great because they fight their opponenets and not their army. Sun Tzu was credited in beating a nation which had an army of 600,000 men with 30,000. It is all strategy and knowing people.
arodspecialist 6 months ago
@arodspecialist Yes, that's common knowledge, I agree with you. My point was IF IT WERE EVEN numbers, it wouldn't have been fair. Rarely ever were any muslim armies invading India 'outnumbered' by the Indians. The sword fighting techniques in India were on a COMPLETELY different level. Shastar Vidya, Ghatka etc. I've tried finding muslim style sword fighting techniques, it's rare to find. They just had brute force in numbers. All those leaders you named are definitely legendsin military tactics.
commonsen5e 6 months ago
@commonsen5e Ahh, now I understand. Yes, even numbers would not have been fair under the leadership of legends. Techniques as you mentioned are agreed as being key components of an impressive attacking force in the ancient world. respect for those who have made them lethal as they are. I do hope the world can have the capacity to learn more than the norm and know that there were great Persian, Muslim, Indian, and Siam empires too. Surely, they did not come to be with wishful thinking.
arodspecialist 6 months ago
@arodspecialist In this movie the scene where the mongols are riding down on their horses in a straight line and then the line behind them spread out, You think that was an actual tactic they used ? It looks fucking pshycotic.
commonsen5e 6 months ago
@commonsen5e Sure it does, but we were never born in those times so we can not verified. However, they have been known to use "Chi-an Ren Duai" (Chinese) diversion tactics using thousand count squads to infiltrate enemies only to retreat and draw opponents larger forces into a set trap. Regardless, they all look BADASS ;)
arodspecialist 6 months ago
this movie is bullshit it is a wrong history of movie. never Genghis had been like that Oh my god u should shy russian son also u need read more thank you for your wrong movie
uyanga2melody 8 months ago
@uyanga2melody This is a movie. And we are not born at that time to know EXACTLY what happened. We can only form perspectives by what was passed down historically by Mongolians and/or by the people they have beaten. If you are Russian, deal with the fact that Ghengis Khan went deep into Russian soil and his descendants ruled those territories for 300+ years. Chinese had to deal with that fact also of being taken over. It is history and nothing can disprove Ghengis' legacy as it is written.
arodspecialist 6 months ago
wow did you guys see that arrow how it was bent at 0:25
crankdatsouljaskater 8 months ago
couched lance attack! 187 damage delivered! XD
whupass7777777 9 months ago
@whupass7777777
Mount and Blade <3
longshanlung 7 months ago
Fucking epic lightning FTW!
traverscircle 9 months ago
GOD heard his prayer. great movie
DPOL87 9 months ago
honestly whoever found picked the cast did a excellent job of picking.
EVILAKUMA 10 months ago
Ogatai emerged carriying his father's bow and declared: "This storm is not yet finished. I still hear the sound of lightening and it strikes in Poland ."
scottweise18 1 year ago
Old wolves do not die gracefully . Wwarriors their entire lives, they do not know how to live when they grow old and their fangs fall out, such it is with Mongols as well . Genghis Khan called in his three sons, they found their father before a fire, delirious with pain. "My descendents will wear gold," he said. "They will eat the finest meats and ridr the finest horses and forget to whom they owe it all ." And he refused to die until Ogatai his 3rd son promised to continue the war .
scottweise18 1 year ago 25
@scottweise18 wtf?
egumet2140 11 months ago
@egumet2140 Its a quote from the ancient book called: the secret history of the mongols .
scottweise18 11 months ago
@scottweise18 are u kidding me? there is no such stupid quote in that book, did u read that in english?
egumet2140 11 months ago
@scottweise18 NICE ONE.IS FROM AGE OF EMPIRES 2
bobbymilankaka 9 months ago
@scottweise18 Age of empires
phceidem 6 months ago
@phceidem hahahaaha I know that ! Everybody knows that ! xD
scottweise18 6 months ago
@scottweise18 Good for you now shut the fuck up and let me enjoy the damn movie.
UniverseOffspring 5 months ago
@UniverseOffspring dude he's not talking he's typing and you don't even have to read that
TheARTmanX 3 months ago
@scottweise18 age of empires II eh? ;)
stefjevtic 2 months ago
Temudgin brave <<<sounds nice
H4des23 1 year ago
your an idiot
MalhiCreations 1 year ago
@MalhiCreations
no, you're an idiot.
Not "your"
EPIC FAIL!
TheKL3Shay 1 year ago
wasn't the Mongol horde also known as the devils horsemen?
twomells 1 year ago
im a big fan of genghis khan
alexis11factor 1 year ago
well not trying to be ass but...
#1 British Empire - 33.7 million km2 (1946)
# 2Mongol Empire - 33.0 million km2 (1270 or 1309)
# 3 Russian Empire - 23.7 million km2 (1866)
i like both their history :)
lorriedude 1 year ago
@lorriedude but British Empire was all disconnected.. Mongol Empire was all connected. That's a world of difference
BiologyLabOne 1 year ago
@BiologyLabOne ur brain is disconnected.
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
@BiologyLabOne maybe but travel back then was a hell of a lot slower
TheBighairyfart 1 year ago
@BiologyLabOne
most of the mongol empire were just desert...that's a bigger difference...
GreyhoundOisin 1 year ago
@GreyhoundOisin
canada is worse than dessert.
the0th 4 months ago
Chingis khan made biggest land empire, so u can deal with the fact, instead of predicting that who ever never heard guy is better than anyone. mongols had many strong rulers, before and after chingis khan. Moghul empire sacked india. whatever that is . fact is fact kiddo. chinggis khan is best. just think if mongols focused only in india hahaha, i dunno
Chinzo247 1 year ago
@Chinzo247
You can't just say that Mongols were the best right off the bat dude.
I mean, look at the Spartans. 300 of them and 7000 other Greeks held the last line of defense for Greece. The 300 only lost a few and just them alone they kill thousands within hours. They were outnumbered of a ratio of 1 to 50. In my opinion, Spartans were always the best.
So 50 Persians for 1 Spartan.
TheKL3Shay 1 year ago
@TheKL3Shay what about the jatts of punjab 45 punjabis vs 1 million mughals battle of chamkaur
MalhiCreations 1 year ago
@MalhiCreations
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha, seriously?
45 soldiers against 1 million? How did the battle go btw? Not being sarcastic
TheKL3Shay 1 year ago 17
@TheKL3Shay AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA IM WITH YOU ON THAT ONE!! There is no way 45 punjabi towel heads can take on 1 million.
Ragobeer 1 year ago
@TheKL3Shay Actually, it was a good tactic-beyond looking really cool. They were called "suicide riders", who unlike suicide bombers, were brave, not suicidal-participating in high-risk operations & in the charge-which the horses seldom survived-used their horses as battering rams, simply slamming into enemy horses or leaping over shield-walls, onto heads of infantrymen below. Often armored, body & steed, to increase momentum & assist in melee. (often for ambush, distraction or creating chaos).
legioXequestriis 4 months ago
@legioXequestriis
i didn't ask for a report about battle tactics dude. I can do that stuff on my own. >___>
but thanks anyway.
TheKL3Shay 4 months ago
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Chinzo247 1 year ago
Mongolians conquered iran and afkhan they probably fought war elephants, iranian kingdom at the time was one of strongest leader was called ceasar. mongols never stopped, no force could stop them, india never expended, mongols never had interest they were busy conquering arab land. so one sided rooney kid stop blabbering. u pathetic. war elephant.. blablabla. mongols were first gun powder weapon users, they wouda kill and scare all the elephants before they come. learn mongol campaign in europe
Chinzo247 1 year ago
and all other emperors failed alexander wants to conquer india but was afraid of nanda dynasty temujin was never satisfied no emperor was hence not able to complete their journey and thats why that present day mongol or alexander empire is divided into different country whereas ashoka the gr8 region is still known as indian subcontinent , only iran is not counted.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
leave all this the theory of non violence by mahatma gandhi martin luther king nelson mandela is simply copy of king siddhratha and emperor ashok.
emperor ashok is comparable to jesus christ and buddha and not to other emperors.
their was a famous line during his exile ashoka was told by a buddhist monk his destiny transcends emperor destiny because all emperors are common people , the answer was the man traveller who completes his journey is the most superior person.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
SO my dearest friends pump up your knowledge and dont come up with absurd and never heard before theroies.
temujin was anti muslim and almost wiped out muslim , whereas mughals were one on the son or desecdents of temujin maybe he fucked 4-5 muslims and they come from those sluts.
and at last buddhism a religion started by a hindu king is in majority in mongol and ofcourse two biggest names in buddhism king siddhartha(buddha himself) and emperor ashok both were hindus.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
your theory sucks badly mughals were mongol then selucid empire is mauryan empire.
mongol empire was not a muslim empire whereas mughal empire was muslim empire.
and about mongols they were never able to grab anny peice of land of india at all go and see their map , you will know.
its god planning at the same time no two great emperors ever born. alexander was not when chandragupta maurya was their. ashoka was not their when temujin was.
because all of thm are gr8s.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
he was almost killed by army of 20000man and 100 war elephants whereas the then ruler of magadha NANDA empire has army of 3lac infantry 80k cavalry and most important the deadliest weapon on earth that time war elephnats that too 6000 elephants.
if temujin faced even the nandas he would be beaten to death but fortunately he faced those empires who suxx. and dont have war elephants.
indian hindus were too briliant they even taught wild tusks to fck the rival enemies.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
and sorry i am not sure but heard and read that temujin was killed by a princess of rival group who hides something in her vagina which kills the great temujin infact its a shameful death for a gr8 millitary leader.
and one more thing temujin was living in dream he never faced any empire which was too powerful rememeber alexander the gr8 he beat a much bigger army of darius easily but against a hindu king of afghan pak porus he was almost killed and it is written he was afraid of indians king
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
and wait atlast who won genghis or ashoka the answer is ashoka his symbols are now the symbol of a country that is considered as top 4 countries in millitary super power INDIA , india is going to have 5th gen fighter much before chinese 2nd class fighters. and now a hindu king buddha(king siddhartha) rules china korea mongol thailand, atlast ashoka the great tactics won over the barbaric metheods of temujin he was greatest military leader no doubt but not the greatest emperor.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
thats why mauryan empire take control of afghan pak and iran and if you have any knowledge of history he didnt capture europe because of two reasons the empire selucid empire was the empire of his grandmother as slecudi nicator daughter was married to his grandfather chandragupta maurya and 2nd the % population under his empire was 34% of total worlds population much higher than mongol and mughal empire. only 3-4 kingdoms have higher %age with highest being 44% .
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
moelicious first come out of dream genghis khan was no real name and neither he was a muslim infact his natives now follow buddhism a religion formed by a hindu buddha(king siddhartha). go and see what temujin(khan meaning is leader, khans are not real muslims) did with muslims he killed 20 lacs muslim in war with some muslim empire in middle east and mughals are not direct relatives of temujin, they were one of the descendent as we know he has many sons maybe fucked a muslim bitch somehwere.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
at one side we are the most liberal towards any religion ranging from abdul kalam azad to apj abdul kalam to srk salman aamir and all other as well same goes for christian as well and for sikhs as well but if someone try to create a divide or play religion card politics then unfortunately he will be given death sentence by the hindu community so live with brotherhood and forgot your religion but if try to play oversmart then your grave will be made in india maybe alexander knew this.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
and about how india is a superpower we are retainign kashmir and telling all muslim countries and china to go to hell and even if india has to kill the whole kashmiri population of muslims india will not let any one down . to unite this country true indians can give their life but will not be behind in killing lacs of kashmiri muslims as well.
so cheers india is a superpower it is to be watched when it overtooks USA. maybe 50 years will be more than enough when INDIA>>usa. hahahah
jai hind.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
and it was pretty shame that genghis khan died in one of the wars mongols will not accept it but this is truth, just as westerners will not accept but the writings prove khan was killed in a war.
and tell me from where does genghis khan belong to if india sees an opporunity indian forces will take that area by peace or violence and will develop it.
and about genghis army it was pretty small one the only reason for his win he never faced a tough opponent .
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
so grow up boy india was superpower from the begining and now in the modern era most european nations america russia have said that they will support for india in UNSC seat including britain germany france , the only obstacle is china but at the end china too will support india, china is anguished over india only because of dalai lama otherwise india and china have strong relations dating back to time of king siddharth and the origination of martial arts.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
genghis khan empire population was never more than 25% of world one reason he never proceed towards his graveyard(india).
hindu empire such as mauryan nanda kushan gupta prous reigned on your muslim popultaion infact at that times their was only 3 religion hindu buddhisht and jainism but still he ruled till iran iraq but instead of killing them with brutality he respect them thats why today india as a superpower of world don ashoka symbols like"ashok chakra" or our national emblem.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
this is a fact that most foreign powers were afraid of india or more specifically indian subcontinent. when chadragupta maurya defeated selucus nicator the biggest general of alexander he married off her daughter in desperation to save the europe and other parts infact mauryans were never intersted in too much of land because they knew that under their empire was around 34% of the worlds population which is 4th or 5th highest top empire was with 44% but without a emperor like great ashok.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
chochochocho alexander was afraid of indian empire ofcourse when he cannot beat the smallest kingdom in india with ease , the nandas will force him to run nude in india if he even think of enteering their land. and the same huge kingdom was defeated by chandragupta maurya who was not king of anywhere but with him was the biggest conspirator of the world ever chankaya , according to the writings under his guidance chandragupta maurya defeated 500times bigger army than themseleves. oh my god.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
while its banks on the further side were covered with multitudes of men-at-arms and horsemen and elephants. For they were told that the kings of the Ganderites and Praesii were awaiting them with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand war elephants
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
As for the Macedonians, however, their struggle with Porus blunted their courage and stayed their further advance into India. For having had all they could do to repulse an enemy who mustered only twenty thousand infantry and two thousand horse, they violently opposed Alexander when he insisted on crossing the river Ganges also, the width of which, as they learned, was thirty-two furlongs, its depth a hundred fathoms,
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
live in your dream mongols never dare to look at india want to know the reason maybe ghenghis khan knew wat happened to alexander the so called great.
alexander was fear of nanda who was eventually beaten by chandragupta maurya infact at last selucus nicator married off her daughter to chandragupta maurya so that he did not attack on europe which he didnt and infact accept jain religion .
so alexander and khan was afraid!
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
@ROONEYGIBBS6 genghis khan's grnadson, Timur destroyed india though. he built the mongol dynasty in india and his offsprings built the taj mahal. the mongol dynasty was the last before the british ruled india.
moelicious416 1 year ago
india the top 5 nation of the world has its national emblem of that of mauryan empire , and more importantly buddhism religion exist due to ashoka the great even though buddha religion was founded around 100 years before asahoka birth but when he accepted buddha religion it got publicity from it thats why international authors keep ashoka the great along with christ king siddhartha .
so grow up and tell from which country you are so that indian forces can beat the shit out of your country.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
this is a fact that mongol empire was never organized till they reach one destination their was fight in their previously conquered regions.
whereas in moauryan empire generally no one dares to raise their voice one reason was the organization of this empire was far more superior and infantry around 10lac 2lac cavalry, 8000 war elephants, infact their was never any need to use such army think yourself when alexander cannot beat a small king of india with ease he would be dead in next war.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
and to make it worse chandragupta maurya build an army from scratch and beat the same nanda empire and spread it till iran iraq of present day from burma and infact at that time the percentage of population under the mauryan empire was approx 34% and gdp was 80% of world.
so go to hell indians are conquering every part of the world and if want to see reality go and see did they capture india. most importantly mongols dont have the father of tricks chankaya
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
mr ilongkoror as soon as he see the army in front off him was of nanda empire he pisses off in his clothes and he ran away. and do you know these are not my words read the official text clearly written that he almost died in a fight with one of the smallest king of india porus. so go and refer to texts and did i mean no i dont mean india is a superpower nowdays so chill brother, alexander was defeated not in fight but even before fight.
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
@xtremixt1
exactly!!those two guys betrayed and handed over jamuka,and jamuka requested to be executed cause theres no point of living for him,and temujin granted him that wise,and DIDNT release him!!
and that guy that tried to kill him at young age,WASNT a general under jamuka!!and no he wasnt a prisoner in china!!and the mongol army arent consisted mostly of infantry,and the cavalries didnt look like japanese samurai
i could go on for a whole day about all the bullshits in this movie
ulongkoror 1 year ago
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wa6286 1 year ago
this might be the biggest bullshit ive ever seen in any movie,even more bullshit than 300
the biggest decisive battle in the history of mongolia,is NOT decided by the weather!!!
ulongkoror 1 year ago
never mongolians try to face the ire of indians nor in the future they will have the courage of to look at india. because every time they do so the world greatest emperor will reborn in the form of ashoka the great and chandragupta maurya who was the first to push alexander army out of asia winning till iran and ofcourse spreading the buddhism religion and starting the martial art called kung fu.
atleast have respect for hindus from where buddhism religion has come from.
buddh was king sidharth
ROONEYGIBBS6 1 year ago
@ROONEYGIBBS6
are you trying to say india is a strong nation?
dude..........how long in history have india NOT been colonized?the mongols,the english,almost by alexender(he died on his way to india,he wasnt defeated) and several other muslim people.india is like pakistan and iraq,always conquered and humiliated
ulongkoror 1 year ago
Now that I've watched the whole thing... It wasn't impressive at all, I hate how they portray an power hungry and cruel emperor as a hermit and then skipping to him having a whole army out of nowhere. The kidnapping thing gets really tiresome if you do it 4 times...
Narut0NineTailed 1 year ago
Folks, view these battles as interpretations of what the director was trying to portray. Don't insult Mongols and Genghis Khan by belittling them, claiming that they wouldn't have such tactics. Maybe not like this, but they still practiced strategy. Genghis Khan brought tactics to Mongolia. How else would they have conquered so much land? Not just with hacking, that's for sure...
susaetern 1 year ago
These swords looks like damascus swords. Which means they were imports. What about that one sword with a ring handle? I thought those swords were distinctively Korean swords.
dokkiro 1 year ago
The 'Suicide Twin sword; guys are awesome fighters..cant see why they were to be sacrificed. Archers couldve avoided them. They werent like present suicide bombers..go n blow yourself up. Must've taken years to train like that. Feeling bad for poor guys!
maniac7777 1 year ago
@maniac7777 They knew what they had to do when they signed up lol
TrueGamingPrince 1 year ago
Persia didn't become a Shia country until after it was conquered by the Turko-Mongols and they established the Azeri Safavid Empire. So actually, it was the Turks who brought Shia Islam to Aryan homelands. Yet here we have a douchebag who doesn't know a thing about his history talking in praise about a murderer who killed millions of Muslims. What a pathetic little pig he is.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@BoAbkal The Turks were real SUNNI MUSLIMS you Iranian Inbred dumbass! Stop acting like you know your history becaue you dont...and no matter what you say about the Mongols.........I STILL LOVE ALL THE MONGOLS AND CHANGIS KHAN.....you peice of shit! Stop trying to make stuff up about them. We have our own history books that were not given to us by Europe like you dip shits. We know our people good. Now I gotta go, YOUR MOM and SISTERS want me again and I need my time and energy :-)
wattanparrast 1 year ago
@wattanparrast Very respectful of you to talk about my mother and sister. What a fantastic Muslim you are turning out to be. As for Persia, it wasn't a Shia country until the Safavid Empire. And the Safavid Empire was mostly composed of Azeri Turks. The Khwarezmid Persian Empire was a Sunni dynasty, this is the truth. Genghis Khan and his son destroyed two Sunni Empires in Persia and Baghdad. What kind of an idiot loves a person who murdered innocent people, let alone Muslims?
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@BoAbkal Another lie by an inbred Iranian who thinks he is a TURK. FUCK YOU and your intelect you think you have! You confused fuck! Shias were in Iran during the rise of the first Mongol wave. Their Shia leader was wrapped in a rug and stomped to death by MONGOL Horses and no one from arabia came to help them becasue they were Shias and they killed a MONGOL messenger who was sent to make a treaty. Now....Take your moms titty out of your mouth and FUCK OFF! LONG LIVE THE MONGOLS!!!!!!!!!!
wattanparrast 1 year ago
@wattanparrast I do not think Im a Turk, I am a Turk. According to Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, founder of Republic of Turkey, anyone who holds the Turkish nationality is a Turk. As for my ethnicity, I always acknowledge that Im mixed. Is there something wrong with that? You have no right to insult my family because I didnt insult yours. Secondly, you need to fix your definition of an inbred. How can a multi-racial person be considered inbred is beyond me lol.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@BoAbkal You loser, who tells you these lies anyway about the Shia fighting along side of the Mongols?? You need to get your head out of your Ass. The Mongols wrapped up the so called Shia leader in a rug and stomped him to death with their horses. THAT IS A FACT and theres a painting of it to prove it. Now fuck off and go tell your bullshit stories to someone else. YOU are a LOSER! I dont have time to waste on you no more!
wattanparrast 1 year ago
@wattanparrast It seems like you do have the time for 'losers' such as myself. How sad that you, on the hand hand, pretend that you have other important things to do, yet you continue to reply to me. Haha, what a loser. Hasn't it occurred to why Hazaras are Shia? Hasn't it occurred to you why all Muslim Mongols are Shia, or why the Azeri Turks are Shia, or why Timur Lang sympathized with the Shia and fought wars against the Ottoman Sultan? He even caught the Ottoman Sultan and put him in a cage.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@wattanparrast You're right about Kemal Ataturk, I'm not defending him. However, according to his definitions and the law of Republic of Turkey, I am by definition a Turk, because I have their nationality. So no, I don't "think" I'm a Turk. Now as for your dirty Pashtun ass, it's a good thing the Hazaras are finally raping your people left and right. Mongols never liked your Aryan asses anyway, they always loved to kill dirty Pashtunis since the days of Genghis Khan.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@wattanparrast And yes, unfortunately the Shia muslims turned their backs against the Khwarezmid and Abbassid Empires when they stood with the Mongol army. This is why many Mongols who later converted to Islam embraced the Shia sect, like the Hazaras and Azeris. Otherwise Persia was at one time a Sunni Empire, like Baghdad. But after it was destroyed by the Mongols, it transformed into a Shia nation. I'm not lying, this is history. But Pashtun people have a small brain and dont understand. :)
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@BoAbkal Sure thing pal, you really dont have nothing to do. Do you? Stop your garbage, you re stinkin up this guy's comment section.
wattanparrast 1 year ago
@wattanparrast By the way, concerning the Shia muslims of Persia at the time of Genghis Khan. They stood with the Mongols because they hated the Sunni rule in Persia. And then they stood with the Mongols to fight the Abbasid caliphate. Its a big shame. As for you, you are an Afghan. Just remember how much damage this guy inflicted on your ancestors hundreds of years ago in Cent. Asia. He exterminated large numbers of Aryans such as yourself from places that are today (2010) predominantly Turkic.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@BoAbkal FUCK YOU and your SHIT face Kemal leader who started the nationalism bullshit. You are a wanna be peice of shit Turk. A real Turk would see the damage that Kemal did. He dont deserve to be called Mustafa b/c he was a traitor to his own people. He was the Europeans bitch in Turkey, and he never defeated the British, the British simply made a pact with him to abololish the Caliphate. Now I see how confused you are, you really are a peice of shit. Keep your shit stories to yourself.
wattanparrast 1 year ago
Attention all, this guy that calls himself (BoAbkal) is a confused half Iranian and Half Turk who is very lost in the SAUCE and may be an Iranian Shia. He only knows what he is told and may talk bad about Changis Khan. DONT MIND HIM. Oh and by the way, Sultan Osman was a great leader of the Ottoman Turks, this guy BoAbkal.....may be on his monthly period. Just look at how he bitches like a little girl. LONG LIVE CHANGIS KHAN'S PEOPLE , the MONGOLS and HAZARRAS of AFGHANISTAN!
wattanparrast 1 year ago
@wattanparrast Khwarezmid Empire was Sunni dynasty, just like Abbassid dynasty. I'm not lost in the sauce, I am alhamdillah Muslim and that's what counts. Fuck Persians, fuck Turks, fuck all of you people. Islam first, and whoever sides himself with the unbelievers is one of them, just like the Quran says. You are one of the filth.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@wattanparrast One last thing dimwit. The man you're so proud of, Genghis Khan, raped your Aryan ass and butchered all you Tocharian/Pashtuni people for years. You were mostly exterminated from Central Asia and Northern Hindustan, and for that reason you fled with your tails behind your asses to Afghanistan, where you then settled there and re-built your drowning population. The Turanians hate your Pashtun ass and theyre waiting for the day to finish you off once and for all. Good riddance.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
Haha these suicide riders remind me of the Kamikaze Pilots!
xD
Shi3i4lyf 1 year ago
did those suicide two sworded riders historically existed ?? if yes then what were they called ?
MrAsifkhanniaziofpak 1 year ago
hahah its funny how they always fall to the right whenever they get killed
Jake4595 1 year ago
GREAT MEN LIVE FOREVER! TIMUDGEN (CHINGIS KHAN) WILL BE REMEMBERED AS LONG AS THIS PLANET EXISTS, HE HAS HAD A GREAT IMPACT ON MANY GROUPS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD. MAY HE REST IN PEACE AND MAY WE LEARN FROM THE GOOD THINGS HE HAS LEFT BEHIND AND TAUGHT US. FREEDOM
wattanparrast 1 year ago
@wattanparrast Were you high on drugs or something when you typed this up? May he rest in peace? More like, may he burn in hell. May Allah burn him in hell for eternity. This 'great man' you seem to admire left nothing for this planet other than wholesale destruction of civilizations (including your own Afghan people by the way) in addition to slaughtering millions of lives, committing mass genocides and ethnic cleansing, and humiliating the Muslims of the Abbassid Empire and Khwarezmid Empire.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@BoAbkal Listen lil nigga were you there? Did you see what happened? Did you know that they became MUSLIMS and live among our tribes ? NO! I love Changis Khan and any other man that destroys the heart of their enemy like him. I am not related to the Abbassids or the Khawarezmids. The only beef Changis had was with the Shias. I m not one. This admiration for a REAL general is a man thing son, you will never understand. Now go complain to someone else like a woman, I have lots of women already.
wattanparrast 1 year ago
@wattanparrast It is well-documented in almost all credible history books of the crimes that the Mongol Empire committed when it invaded Muslim lands. One million Muslims died in Samarkand and one million more died in Baghdad. These were your Muslim brothers, you stupid dog. 'Beef with the Shias'? You asshole, he mostly killed Sunnis. In fact, some Shia stood with Genghis Khan and helped him invade Baghdad. You stupid fool, youre a slave for the Kuffar.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@BoAbkal Dude"s Its jst a film.. The history doesnt even make sense. cuz i'm Mongolian "nd i know how its end.. WTF Chinggis Khaan Was never Prisoned in China.. What A failure film.. But the Army tactics are Not wrong.. This Film is jst Makin by a failure Russian dude.. F*ck Ppl who hate Mongolia.. cuz One day its gonna happen again.. but Next time we Rule over hole the World..
obooxd 1 year ago
@obooxd Yeah it's gonna happen again and Mongolia will get nuked. Take care buddy.
BoAbkal 1 year ago
@obooxd whoa
MrHuangKong 1 year ago
They shot their own men O.O
Why?? :o
Treepelt 1 year ago
@Treepelt the suicide horsemen are suppose to lead the enemy into the archer's trap but that will cause your own men in order to kill more
Jake4595 1 year ago
@Jake4595 Thats actually a very crafty strategy! Thank you for the info ^_^
Treepelt 1 year ago
@Treepelt yep no prob
Jake4595 1 year ago
dumbest movie ever...wtf ..I can't believe I wasted this much time
Paulycover 1 year ago
Oh, and Temujin (later Genghis Khan) had been making alliances and gathering vassals since before the age of 20. Though still outnumbered by his opponents, he did have a sizeable retinue of vassals and friends to call upon as he grew in power and strength. He understood the need for class considerations, but often promoted based on merit, which had not been seen much in armies since the time of the Romans.
DSDunlap72 1 year ago
aw man the real awesome fight is fucked up by the night rainy sht
Amb3rF4n 1 year ago
If they did that in real life, they better have hoped lightning wouldn't hit their swords, or they'd light up like the fourth of July... but it DID look epic.
kirby28645 1 year ago
WTF?!?! Did they just killed their own men?!?! Looks like they did to me.
Timbermaw 1 year ago
@Timbermaw
Mongolians hate cowards like you. They deserved to die, they knew that they were Mongolian Cataphracts. Their job is to lower the enemy forces at the cost of their own lives. They tried to run away and live, so The great Temugdin shot them down.
Romansteel13 1 year ago
@Romansteel13 Fuck U Faggot! Talking Shit behind the computer. Come to me and I gonna ram my cock in ur ass and u cant do anything about it!!
Timbermaw 1 year ago
@Timbermaw ewww faggot. keep your homosexual desires to your self
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
@Romansteel13 errr, why not re use them? makes sence right? i mean if a suicide warrior does his job and returns alive then send him out agian. The mongolians were brave fighters, but hella stupid
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
@blacksoilder10 there was like 5 of them...
IKaZze 1 year ago
@blacksoilder10 how can they be stupid if they conquered the largest land empire in the history of the world??? you're the stupid one...
this is a fucking movie and secondly, that's their job...
kai0shin 1 year ago
@kai0shin woah woah, relax man you need a sence of humor. swearing isnt cool anymore. And dont you think it was kinda stupid of the suicide cataphract to stay on thier horses? agree/disagree?
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
Mongol shock troops are epic.
Sinvx 1 year ago
Twin riders are badass.
agostinodrums 1 year ago
He studied the weather patterns of the seasons and took his chance there would be a good storm based upon atmospheric changes. Just because it was a thousand years ago, doesn't mean people didn't pay attention to weather patterns
islandsylph 1 year ago
well this movie makes genghis khan look like a good guy and hero of sorts
but in reality,he is actually a horde.great movie
Jake4595 1 year ago
@Jake4595 If you think about it for a little bit you'd see that humanity's great rulers were all hordes; though not presumably in the way you would imagine them. Khan was an exceptional ruler, one of the greatest. You're just looking at the negative aspects of his life based on the nonfactual evidence surrounding him. Middle-eastern countries have displayed him as a monster for non conceptual tales.
lorthin123 1 year ago
@lorthin123 uhm i dink i know what u mean,yeah like you Qin the emperor of china?he killed and destroyed dozens of ancient chinese atifacts and religions,as well as people.but just thought that the mongols were ruthless angry horse riders who has the eye of an eagle and just destroys things up and dont really have a plan of what to do after they finish the killing.
Jake4595 1 year ago
@Jake4595 Okay first of all- Wait. What? I didn't understand most of what I couldn't comprehend because of grammar issues you have made, which is about a third of your statement. Now I will once again restate my OPINION: Khan is a great ruler. He could've continued to rule the rest of the known world if he didn't die. As much like the rest of the great rulers of past. Examples Alexander, Rome's Cezar, and others. And just because they are hordes does not mean they are not great rulers.
lorthin123 1 year ago
@lorthin123 lol never mind i'm not talking about ghengis khan,i'm talking about the mongol hordes
Jake4595 1 year ago
@Jake4595 Alright, that's okay. I was talking about your comment about Khan being a horde.
lorthin123 1 year ago
whats the matter Israel4realz you dont believe in miracles hahahaha
vombastic 1 year ago
what the fuck*********************
Isreal4realz 1 year ago
what the fuck*********************
Isreal4realz 1 year ago
what fuck fuck happened??? -.- a storm came then nothing made sense after that... how did he win?
Isreal4realz 1 year ago
I wonder what Genghis Khan said to his troops before the battle. "I prayed to Tengri so don't worry, He's gonna send a thunderstorm to scare the enemy away."
Pigeonzbomb12 1 year ago
thunder and lightning with no rain? very weird
skaterockerloc 2 years ago
due to a lightningstorm... your army has flied, your fucked k? xD
FaakedLillebror 2 years ago 3
man, those suicide cataphract looking troopers who led the 1st detachmen shouldve just jumped off their horse and lied down on the floor, the archers were shooting at horseback degrees. those were some pretty badass suicide mongols.
Nuahtu 2 years ago 19
They weren't suicide Mongols. They fled. And were shot for breaking the law "Fight enemies to the end", and also by fleeing they "Betrayed their Khan"
TheAntiochus 2 years ago
No they were meant to distract the first wave and allow the archers to kill the riders.
BlackbirdMatt 2 years ago
Then why were they killed themselves? Mongols are supposed to fight enemies to the end. They broke that law and have been killed accordingly
TheAntiochus 2 years ago
because they were supposed to distract the riders so that they chased them and did not more closely check the surroundings.
BlackbirdMatt 2 years ago
they were bait... if they hadnt lured the enemy riders into the trap it wouldnt have worked...
muffins247 2 years ago
fleeing was the primary tactic for mongols fool. thats how they fooled their enemies. they were the masters of the hit and run.
ienjoypaninis 2 years ago
So it was hit, die, run and get killed by your own guys? Oh dear, such a nice waste of elite warriors. Don't give me any shit fool.
TheAntiochus 2 years ago
those 4 elite warriors knew what they were doing, the purpose was to draw them back and have the rest of them take them out.
also this movie is very innacurate historically.
ienjoypaninis 2 years ago
@ienjoypaninis really?? i thought it was pretty acurate in the beginning
although i did skip and watch through the middle section of the movie
danny1qaz2wsx 1 year ago
@ienjoypaninis That's why when you're fighting against Mongols and the€y look like they're retreating, DO NOT GO AFTER THEM!!! Chances are, they've got about ten thousand more men waiting around the corner.
saiyanprince09 2 years ago
@Nuahtu They had sworn to die or whatever so they didn't care.
IKaZze 1 year ago
Id like to think of that first wave as some sort of mongol ODST suicide troopers. Elite, swift, violent, not meant to come back.
mercucio61 2 years ago
Likely that they were his suicide troops. Genghis Khan was always good to his men. Alot of the movie had to hollywood-ed for the movie.
gunmonkey1185 2 years ago 3
@gunmonkey1185 Yeah I thought that was a bit far fetched. Even though there were only 5-6 of them left, there was no reason to waste some of your best men who are your most effective killers. I think they could have made it in before the arrows, but that's just me.
banmen0w 2 years ago
@banmen0w Archers would be killed by then. They were actually pretty close. Waste 6 men, save hunderds. It's war (not the modern one).
Morr1992 2 years ago
omg why the hell did they shoot there own men...
aznyang16 2 years ago
do you have a brain are you seriously this ignorant
OACYLU 2 years ago
his a good ledear so why some mongols wants him...
jaykevin 2 years ago
the deus ex machina kinda ruined the movie for me
METALkaiser27 2 years ago
WTF is up with the Mongol twin sword suicide riders. haha
HongeKP 2 years ago 23
Haha i haven't seen them in the books about Genghis Kahn and Monglolia
Daniel93Mangila 2 years ago
it was part of genghis khan's stragey.those were obviously very skilled assasins so not only are they able to kill off alot of enemies,they also lured the enemies into their squad of archers when they fled.
about 20 sucidal riders helped brought down an entire rank of enemy cavalries,thats just an example of how genghis khan is smart enough to win huge battles
ulongkoror 2 years ago
@HongeKP
they're the Khan's elite suicide warriors, sworn to die in battle for their lord no matter what. this is why the survivors are shot down by their own archers.
thedarknesscallingme 1 year ago