@hullan666 A "well known fact" as you see it. I can intonate mine just fine. Been doing it for over 35 years. Luthiers have been doing it for centuries. The human ear is not a lab scope, so no worries. Regular frets work fine. saying they don't is a lie.
@jwandhistools But that wasn't part of the discussion here was it? What our human ears percieve... I'm not that picky myself so I don't care - and there are many tone deaf people who would say the guitar sounds just fine. But the discussion was around you saying "you can intonate your guitar to play perfectly in tune" -
@hullan666 - and the answer is - no you can't - theoretically and practically if you tune an open string to perfect pitch - most of the notes down the neck will differ from a few to many cents om some notes. Just a fact. You're fine with it - and I'm fine with it. A digital synth can play in perfect pitch - but not a guitar.
Was the fret wire just randomly twisted into squiggly shapes, or is there a method to how each piece of fret wire was shaped? Also, that electric/acoustic doubleneck concept was done before. I remember seeing an old pic of Slash with a Guild that had a 6-string electric on the bottom and a 12-string acoustic on the top.
@6672rock as you decrease the length of a string (when you fret it) the frequency increase proportionally. But to hit a perfect semitone/tone away you may be a very small amount out on some strings with standard frets. The shape of the frets is to increase/decrease the length of the string when you fret it by a tiny amount more or less than with a straight fret, meaning the guitar will stay perfectly in tune as you go all the way up the neck.
wow. this is exactly the problem I had with my guitar. I thought my guitar was defective and got another one only to have the exact same problem at which point, I was so frustrated, I just put the guitar down and never picked it up again. It's amazing to me to hear you describe exaxtly the problem I was having. I thought mayby it was just me and I just didn't have the ear to be able to tune a guitar correctly. This has really helped me a lot.
They should have that every guitar. The sustain is crazy. i know Allan Holdsworth would love to have that sustain. I would if that works for an acoustic.
2:40 "I don't have a sustainer or anyhing!", 0:30 "And the difference is flow has a sustainer!" Hahaaahaaa LIIIAAAAAAAAAAAR!! Ooh it sustains SOOO well! Maybe your sustainer has something to do with that? lol ;-)
He wasn't playing "Flo" when he said that...Check your facts! - LOL!
In your defense, they look almost identical (white Jems!) However, he puts "Flo" down about 2-feet backwards and over to the right (just a bit,) whereas the True-Temperment white-Jem was sitting about 4-feet directly to Steve's right (watch how far he reaches for the "sustaining" True-Temperment Jem.) Besides, he's had the "Flo" Jem for a long time but said he "just got" the True-Temperment White Jem.
He doesn't explain the temperament very well...it's obviously not just intonation (and personally I don't think accommodating it with frets is worth it), so I'm guessing it's some sort of well-temperament. It certainly sounds better than ET.
@NorrisChuckling Correct! The company do have a true temperament neck, though they also have a load of well tempered ones, using different temperaments and stuff :). There is some information on their site, if you go on the FAQ (they also have a crazy 14 "meantone blues one" which is like, uber cool temperament :P)
It's true that bending on one of these frets will be slightly different sounding than bending on a straight fret, as the distances will be slightly off.. but it will be almost imperceptible (probably less perceptible than the out-of-tuneness of a straight fret guitar).
If you're just bending by ear then you just bend to the spot that sounds right, it doesn't really make a different how many tenths of a milimeter more or less than normal you have to bend..
Sounded a tad out when he went up the neck, I'd also like to hear it without the distortion... Why use it when showing tuning? Grand for the sustain but other than that it's like masking
Its actually easier to hear beating with distortion (because of sum and difference tones). If the notes didn't have distortion, it would be easier to mistake a tuning difference as large as 10 cents.
Err hello....Dont we already have the Buzz Feiten tuning system that addreses these issues perfectly. Washburn have been using this to great effect for years!!
The notes SING just because of the "tempered" frets? How much did they pay you to say this? I bet you must be laughing your b*tt off at home thinking you said this in a video.
If you really think your guitar is in perfect tune without the TT frets, play a simple d chord at the ninteenth fret. It'll never come out perfect if you don't have this type of fretting system.
All the triads and unusual chords that you usually can't play in tune will now work, so it opens up for some fantastic new music.
Acoustic and Electric. Well, actually it was done aaa long time ago. There some clips of Cvetan Nedqlkov (I don't know if they're on YouTube) where he plays that kind of an instrument.
try tuning a guitar (with a electric tuner) , then after you have all the open strings in tune check the tuning of say errrr 13th fret, or just any fret. it should , if i am correct, be out of tune, (the fretted notes should. slightly). true temperament elimanates this (i think) i might be wrong :)
@Guitareben You obviously know nothing about guitar, so your saying that all guitars are always out of tune? That we've been playing out of tune guitar this whole time? If you tune a guitar properly, the 12th frets will be the same as the open notes. (assuming the guitar has proper intonation). In my opinion, these temperament guitars are bullshit.
@monsterborn12 Yes I am. The formula determining where the frets go assumes that strings are perfect. Strings are not perfect. True temperament guitars = better intonation
(Also, it must be mentioned that a few of the TT necks have different temperaments:
@Guitareben I have researched it and I know exactly what it does. The point is that unless you have a guitar with the shittiest strings, the sound difference is so miniscule that there is basically no point in using true temperament. Also it looks incredibly stupid.
@monsterborn12 You obviously have never played a guitar before. If you play chords high up the neck they sound very out of tune EVEN if you have your intonation at frets 12 and 24 perfect. I suggest you watch the Tommy Denander video on them... the chords high up all sound in tune!
@Guitareben If you have a well tuned guitar and you play high triads they WILL sound in tune. They may not be perfectly in tune, there is obviously a miniscule difference, but to an untrained ear it literally makes NO difference.
Vai would make a great salesman, you can't play an A chord and a D chord and have them in tune, but you can on this guitar lol I too wondered if bending a note over the bent fret would cause problems with getting the note your trying to bend too...
cause when u move the string up the fret, the length will change. but this is probably not too intense, maybe in the 2nd fret, where u usually dont bend strings at all
Steve....let's call it a prayer...sent out to all those millions of helplessly out-of-tune guitar players who plague Guitar Center every Saturday afternoon....
Steve, would have helped if you'd used less distortion, which masks the tuning discrepencies. If I have learned anything about tuning and guitar intonation, I have learned that you cannot the high and low "E" strings perfectly in tune. The "Stretch" (which you often hear piano tuners talk about) for a guitar requires that the high "E" be ever-so-slightly flat by just a few cents relative to the low "E". I have perfected a method which allows tolerable differences between C, E, and A chords.
When you typed this out, did you think Steve Vai would see this comment? Or was it more like a prayer? There is no 'perfected method' on a regular guitar
Too bad he didn't tune the true temperament guitar properly before he demonstrated it. There are other videos demonstrating this system where the guitars are tuned properly. True Temperament frets, for instance.
Just got myself a custom made True Temperament Strat - It makes my PRS SC245 sound like crap (tuning wise). Once you've tried TT you can never go back :)
I don't see what's so surprising. Bolt-on's have the best sustain of any neck joint, but the difference is so minimal that the human ear can't discern it.
Actually, common knowledge is that neck-thru has the best, while bolt-on has the worst. I've heard that if you do a bolt-on right though It has the best.
Ive yet to actually hear anything proving that neck-thru construction guitars have any significant (or even subtle) sustain/tonal benefits over a bolt-on neck or even a set-neck.
GuitarBuyer (UK based magazine) did a test (using SCIENCE! :D) on this a few years back. They concluded that while there is a difference, its so subtle that its not worth worrying about.
Same height, yes, but as you bend the string the distance to the bridge from the fret is slightly altered (since the distance isn't uniform for each fret). Of course, the purpose of the bend is to alter the note, so it may work anyway lol.
The guitar that he is presenting is not "more in tune." it is tuned to a different system that is built on frequency ratios and physical properties of sound and is actually much older than equal temperament. the drawback is that in certain keys, like Ab, a major triad sounds extremely dissonant, so the possibility of transposing is quite limited.
I own two guitars with True Temperament frets (one Strat and one Les Paul) and it's made my life in a studio situation way easier! Now I don't have to worry about the problems with the B-string fucking up the B-C-D situation. The octaves are in perfect tuning and, as Vai said, the sustain has even improved. I'm even sometimes using a whole step detuning, and drop-D and it still works! There is NO difference when it comes to bending etc.
interesting. i play a nylon string acoustic most of the time. and i always thought i just had picky ears because i could never get my guitar quite in tune...i need one of these! :D
the "out of tune" phenomenon to which steve refers is not exclusive to the guitar, nor is it the result of the guitar being a "screwed up instrument." it is a system of determining the intervals of notes within an octave known as equal temperament.
There are ways to get around this. When using distortion and playing rock music there are unique ways to play regular chords and the intonation is correct.
rob42164, i can tell you as a luthier that you can play and A chord and a D chord in tune. But to do so, you must tune to those chords, and furthermore to those specific chord voicings. But when you do this other chords will be out of tune. Of course you could be like some of my clients and be able to defy mathmatics and physics.
I don't mind it being ever so slightly out of tune at times, I think it makes the chord seem more like what it is- three or more notes played together it really lets the individual notes stand out as they shake and disagree with each other you know?
i love how we're listening to the intonation with all that shit on his tone. Although there is no doubt in my mind that he can hear all the difference. He's got the tiger woods ear of the guitar world. Cool intonation system. Does any one know how close it is to just intonation?
I just saw the interview from Oct 2007 in G W where Vai was pictured with these TT necks. I originally thought it was the way they photoshopped the pic. But now I think this new way to using just intonation and equal temperament is very cool.
Ya decia yo, siempre cuando toco mi RG si bien afina muy bien siempre siento en ciertas partes una ligerisima desafinacion y conversando con otro colega guitarrista (con una guitarra un mas profesional que la mia)coincidiamos en eso.
Sounds like some kind of sales pitch.
Yes, you can intonate your guitar to play perfectly in tune, if you know what you are doing. No idea why he is saying you can't. It's a lie.
jwandhistools 4 days ago
@jwandhistools No you can't. Mathematically a guitar neck is made not to intonate properly. It's a well known fact
hullan666 3 days ago
@hullan666 A "well known fact" as you see it. I can intonate mine just fine. Been doing it for over 35 years. Luthiers have been doing it for centuries. The human ear is not a lab scope, so no worries. Regular frets work fine. saying they don't is a lie.
jwandhistools 3 days ago
@jwandhistools But that wasn't part of the discussion here was it? What our human ears percieve... I'm not that picky myself so I don't care - and there are many tone deaf people who would say the guitar sounds just fine. But the discussion was around you saying "you can intonate your guitar to play perfectly in tune" -
hullan666 3 days ago
@hullan666 - and the answer is - no you can't - theoretically and practically if you tune an open string to perfect pitch - most of the notes down the neck will differ from a few to many cents om some notes. Just a fact. You're fine with it - and I'm fine with it. A digital synth can play in perfect pitch - but not a guitar.
hullan666 3 days ago
Slash had a acoustic/electric double guitar in the 90s, you can see it in estranged
guuiddoo 3 months ago
@guuiddoo you're right...he's even used it live a few times...made for him by Guild sometime in the nineties, if i remember correctly.
CScout671 2 months ago
"Oh My Me..."
slutbucketism 5 months ago
"its very hard to get it in tune" he says ( whilst playing it through a massive distorted effect).
incongra 1 year ago
@incongra lol a good ear can still tell when somethings in tune no matter how distorted, distortion is not a pitch shifter mate
TheLydianRocks 6 months ago
@TheLydianRocks pish.
incongra 6 months ago
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incongra 1 year ago
the way the notes work with the overtones? what the hell is he talking about?
it's all about the finger pressure
mikedg18 1 year ago
@mikedg18
ofcourse it's not.
TommittajaFIN 11 months ago
@TommittajaFIN
then try fretting lightly on the lower frets. you'll notice it won't be sharp
mikedg18 11 months ago
@mikedg18 Yeah...He pulled that one straight out his ass, he was asked on the spot and just answered. Cant blame him!
zbarneyz 9 months ago
Was the fret wire just randomly twisted into squiggly shapes, or is there a method to how each piece of fret wire was shaped? Also, that electric/acoustic doubleneck concept was done before. I remember seeing an old pic of Slash with a Guild that had a 6-string electric on the bottom and a 12-string acoustic on the top.
6672rock 1 year ago
@6672rock as you decrease the length of a string (when you fret it) the frequency increase proportionally. But to hit a perfect semitone/tone away you may be a very small amount out on some strings with standard frets. The shape of the frets is to increase/decrease the length of the string when you fret it by a tiny amount more or less than with a straight fret, meaning the guitar will stay perfectly in tune as you go all the way up the neck.
I'm pretty sure that's it.
holmesy321 1 year ago
and what if you bend the string??
BlisterOnTheMoon 1 year ago
"I came, I played it, I bought it" (Julius Ceasar)
HjalmarGuitarMaster 1 year ago
wow. this is exactly the problem I had with my guitar. I thought my guitar was defective and got another one only to have the exact same problem at which point, I was so frustrated, I just put the guitar down and never picked it up again. It's amazing to me to hear you describe exaxtly the problem I was having. I thought mayby it was just me and I just didn't have the ear to be able to tune a guitar correctly. This has really helped me a lot.
LarryLane07 1 year ago
@LarryLane07 now we are two dude. i suffered the same problem and thought I was wrong, but I'm not the only one now ...
sonido13bb 1 year ago
@sonido13bb cool! I am glad we both found this video. maybe we can both pick it up again.
LarryLane07 1 year ago
sorry steve...the accoustic-electrick doubleneck has been done...
zbarneyz 1 year ago
Is that a fender supersonic amp in the background.
attributionerr 1 year ago
0:53 "They have this concept that the guitar is kind of a screwed up instrument- and it is" you have to tune to the chords, not the open strings....
123jozef 1 year ago
No fretless guitar??? Now that would truly be true temperament from the Harmonic Series ie Just Intonation...................vvv
andarcalabar 1 year ago
Slash did the acoustic electric double neck guitar. I think it was a green guild.
TheTrevasaurusRex 1 year ago
steve vai is a really great guy.
blackritchie8 1 year ago
They should have that every guitar. The sustain is crazy. i know Allan Holdsworth would love to have that sustain. I would if that works for an acoustic.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
2:28
raresore 1 year ago
and i gave them away hahaha
31alex7 1 year ago
does he currently use the true tempernment
azfryguy 1 year ago
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vasili3006 1 year ago
2:40 "I don't have a sustainer or anyhing!", 0:30 "And the difference is flow has a sustainer!" Hahaaahaaa LIIIAAAAAAAAAAAR!! Ooh it sustains SOOO well! Maybe your sustainer has something to do with that? lol ;-)
vasili3006 1 year ago
@vasili3006 He wasn't playing the flow
MiikaT96 1 year ago
@MiikaT96 He have no flow
raresore 1 year ago
@vasili3006 he was talking about different guitars
superdome65 1 year ago
@vasili3006 it's different guitars
raresore 1 year ago
@vasili3006,
He wasn't playing "Flo" when he said that...Check your facts! - LOL!
In your defense, they look almost identical (white Jems!) However, he puts "Flo" down about 2-feet backwards and over to the right (just a bit,) whereas the True-Temperment white-Jem was sitting about 4-feet directly to Steve's right (watch how far he reaches for the "sustaining" True-Temperment Jem.) Besides, he's had the "Flo" Jem for a long time but said he "just got" the True-Temperment White Jem.
billmeedog 1 year ago
@vasili3006 Erm, they're different guitars mate.
TheRantingBrit 4 months ago
double neck party, haha vai is hilarious :D
haladilnikas 1 year ago
Well...the doubleneck has been done ;P
zbarneyz 1 year ago
Actually Gibson made a double neck guitar with one of them being an acoustic. Slash used it in one of the videos. Never seen it used live tho.
NowaqP 1 year ago
fuck me thats sick sustain
befrankis 1 year ago
He doesn't explain the temperament very well...it's obviously not just intonation (and personally I don't think accommodating it with frets is worth it), so I'm guessing it's some sort of well-temperament. It certainly sounds better than ET.
NorrisChuckling 1 year ago
@NorrisChuckling Correct! The company do have a true temperament neck, though they also have a load of well tempered ones, using different temperaments and stuff :). There is some information on their site, if you go on the FAQ (they also have a crazy 14 "meantone blues one" which is like, uber cool temperament :P)
Guitareben 1 year ago
ehhhhhhhhhh quiero esa guitarra
jjiikler 1 year ago
tengo una duda¿como hace para alargar tanto la duracion del sonido?con la pedalera que uso yo no dura tanto el sonido.
yo1987full 1 year ago
@yo1987full ese es el efecto que hace el sistema true temperament de esa guitarra, ahora, como trabaja el sistema en si, no tengo idea.
GeorgeSaag 1 year ago
his guitars look so gaudy and gay
TheEarlOfDublin 1 year ago
Bending the notes will be fine.
It's true that bending on one of these frets will be slightly different sounding than bending on a straight fret, as the distances will be slightly off.. but it will be almost imperceptible (probably less perceptible than the out-of-tuneness of a straight fret guitar).
If you're just bending by ear then you just bend to the spot that sounds right, it doesn't really make a different how many tenths of a milimeter more or less than normal you have to bend..
AsylumSeaker 1 year ago
CAPO, steve vai, sos un maestro, y el loco que invento esos trastes es UN GENIO con todas las letras. QUIERO UNA DE ESAS !!! :'(
tatobridges 2 years ago
Sounded a tad out when he went up the neck, I'd also like to hear it without the distortion... Why use it when showing tuning? Grand for the sustain but other than that it's like masking
Bren28 2 years ago
Its actually easier to hear beating with distortion (because of sum and difference tones). If the notes didn't have distortion, it would be easier to mistake a tuning difference as large as 10 cents.
tomatoe0000 1 year ago
that was hell of a sustain!!
rama6maiden 2 years ago
Err hello....Dont we already have the Buzz Feiten tuning system that addreses these issues perfectly. Washburn have been using this to great effect for years!!
nealedunham 2 years ago
Buzz feiten is not as good as this...
Chalksteen 2 years ago
The notes SING just because of the "tempered" frets? How much did they pay you to say this? I bet you must be laughing your b*tt off at home thinking you said this in a video.
We all need money.
kernunoos 2 years ago
not gonna lie that thing looks retarded
kweerb8 2 years ago
Hell yea for the BLUE JEM thats what i have. fell in love with it.
powerzg33tar 2 years ago
If you really think your guitar is in perfect tune without the TT frets, play a simple d chord at the ninteenth fret. It'll never come out perfect if you don't have this type of fretting system.
All the triads and unusual chords that you usually can't play in tune will now work, so it opens up for some fantastic new music.
MistahhB 2 years ago
i dont think that bending strings will be an issue thats ifthe frets are at even hight?
No2647 2 years ago
Acoustic and Electric. Well, actually it was done aaa long time ago. There some clips of Cvetan Nedqlkov (I don't know if they're on YouTube) where he plays that kind of an instrument.
gigaves 2 years ago
Cvetan Nedqlkov is not the only one who plays an instrument like that, I've seen Slash holding one and it was the same.
NGmetalix 2 years ago
Correct. I've also seen Slash playing one as well. Although he looked very uncomfortable playing it.
iselldummysmacks 2 years ago
i dont get the concept. to what are the frets tuned then? is has to be any key then.
haubsen 2 years ago
try tuning a guitar (with a electric tuner) , then after you have all the open strings in tune check the tuning of say errrr 13th fret, or just any fret. it should , if i am correct, be out of tune, (the fretted notes should. slightly). true temperament elimanates this (i think) i might be wrong :)
Guitareben 2 years ago 4
@Guitareben You obviously know nothing about guitar, so your saying that all guitars are always out of tune? That we've been playing out of tune guitar this whole time? If you tune a guitar properly, the 12th frets will be the same as the open notes. (assuming the guitar has proper intonation). In my opinion, these temperament guitars are bullshit.
monsterborn12 2 months ago
@monsterborn12 Yes I am. The formula determining where the frets go assumes that strings are perfect. Strings are not perfect. True temperament guitars = better intonation
(Also, it must be mentioned that a few of the TT necks have different temperaments:
Google - Well temperament)
Guitareben 2 months ago
@Guitareben I have researched it and I know exactly what it does. The point is that unless you have a guitar with the shittiest strings, the sound difference is so miniscule that there is basically no point in using true temperament. Also it looks incredibly stupid.
monsterborn12 2 months ago
@monsterborn12 You obviously have never played a guitar before. If you play chords high up the neck they sound very out of tune EVEN if you have your intonation at frets 12 and 24 perfect. I suggest you watch the Tommy Denander video on them... the chords high up all sound in tune!
Guitareben 2 months ago
@Guitareben If you have a well tuned guitar and you play high triads they WILL sound in tune. They may not be perfectly in tune, there is obviously a miniscule difference, but to an untrained ear it literally makes NO difference.
monsterborn12 2 months ago
Vai would make a great salesman, you can't play an A chord and a D chord and have them in tune, but you can on this guitar lol I too wondered if bending a note over the bent fret would cause problems with getting the note your trying to bend too...
nemovgi 2 years ago
no it wont...
Chalksteen 2 years ago
would the bent frets effect bending notes?
Phailure365 2 years ago
should, yes
cause when u move the string up the fret, the length will change. but this is probably not too intense, maybe in the 2nd fret, where u usually dont bend strings at all
haubsen 2 years ago
u da best!
akamrblast 2 years ago
Love to know who's gonna do a re-fret on that puppy...
ROCKSTARCRANE 2 years ago
It's actually not that hard. Check out TTs website. They exlain it very nicley.
MistahhB 2 years ago
Steve....let's call it a prayer...sent out to all those millions of helplessly out-of-tune guitar players who plague Guitar Center every Saturday afternoon....
ROCKSTARCRANE 2 years ago
i disagree with him on his double neck guitar. that HAS been done already, I can't recall any brand names right now but I've seen it a lot of times
phphphphphphph 2 years ago
why don`t you all just shut up and play your guitars
deathlesshorsie 2 years ago
Steve, would have helped if you'd used less distortion, which masks the tuning discrepencies. If I have learned anything about tuning and guitar intonation, I have learned that you cannot the high and low "E" strings perfectly in tune. The "Stretch" (which you often hear piano tuners talk about) for a guitar requires that the high "E" be ever-so-slightly flat by just a few cents relative to the low "E". I have perfected a method which allows tolerable differences between C, E, and A chords.
ROCKSTARCRANE 2 years ago
When you typed this out, did you think Steve Vai would see this comment? Or was it more like a prayer? There is no 'perfected method' on a regular guitar
SteveHubbardGuitar 2 years ago
O.o the sustain...
platinumbridge 2 years ago 31
thats not his tone. not at all and yea i thought it was hard to listen to aslo, but its not his
lespaul369 2 years ago
his tone is horrible if its always like this
plxplxkthx 2 years ago
Yeah, so horrible it sold millions of records.
gmrios 2 years ago 19
so did s club 7
so did the spice girls
so have the fucking jonas brothers
plxplxkthx 2 years ago
I've heard of the spice people but who the hell are those other folks?
gmrios 2 years ago
guess it depends where youre from
pretty big bands in the uk
plxplxkthx 2 years ago
... I really hate it, but you have a good point there.
NameInFlame 2 years ago
youre judging tone via youtube.. and also i dont think it's the legacy in this vid ;)
asdfasdsfsa 2 years ago
yeah i know its not the perfect indicator but its not as if it makes everything sound totally different
i dunno that was just my first impression, dont take it like i have some campaign of hate against him or something
plxplxkthx 2 years ago
no actually i totally agree with you here.. his tone in this vid is totally crap.. ;D
asdfasdsfsa 2 years ago
Too bad he didn't tune the true temperament guitar properly before he demonstrated it. There are other videos demonstrating this system where the guitars are tuned properly. True Temperament frets, for instance.
jstarret 2 years ago
I wonder what ever happened to the multi colored Gem hes holding on the front of passion and warfare?
drtyfknmouth 2 years ago
Its not a Jem. It's an Ibanez universe, he still has it.
weirdotis 2 years ago
Just got myself a custom made True Temperament Strat - It makes my PRS SC245 sound like crap (tuning wise). Once you've tried TT you can never go back :)
kristopherlind 2 years ago 3
this is what I call sustain
DimaNewBorn 2 years ago 2
2:28 for fuck sake man! I want that sound!
bullettriviumbodom 2 years ago
Why? I think it´s awful. Sounds cheap.
dintubmongo 2 years ago
i mean more how it resonates :)
bullettriviumbodom 2 years ago
Slash did the Acoustic/electric too i don't who was first though but slash used it in the late 90's
lordakamai 2 years ago 2
Yerr slash had one and some one else had one it was originally made my a small company but it never hit off 'cus they wern't very big!
bullettriviumbodom 2 years ago
I think you are talking about the guitar Slash has from Guild that green one. Its awesome and I hope to have one like it in the future
Dasilvarenegade 2 years ago
All that sustain on a BOLT-ON BASSWOOD GUITAR FROM IBANEZ!? Holy shit.
Megamaniac610 2 years ago
I don't see what's so surprising. Bolt-on's have the best sustain of any neck joint, but the difference is so minimal that the human ear can't discern it.
xHighPotencyx 2 years ago
Actually, common knowledge is that neck-thru has the best, while bolt-on has the worst. I've heard that if you do a bolt-on right though It has the best.
Megamaniac610 2 years ago
Ive yet to actually hear anything proving that neck-thru construction guitars have any significant (or even subtle) sustain/tonal benefits over a bolt-on neck or even a set-neck.
TaskForcePriest 2 years ago
GuitarBuyer (UK based magazine) did a test (using SCIENCE! :D) on this a few years back. They concluded that while there is a difference, its so subtle that its not worth worrying about.
NameInFlame 2 years ago
can u bend the strings on a guitar with True Temperament?
jaxeplayer 2 years ago
yeah... regardless of the shape of the frets.. they are the same height all the way across.. it feels normal
topperspoppers 2 years ago
Same height, yes, but as you bend the string the distance to the bridge from the fret is slightly altered (since the distance isn't uniform for each fret). Of course, the purpose of the bend is to alter the note, so it may work anyway lol.
TheCoopshow 2 years ago
Yeh of course! You cant even notice the difference.
meusicalentall27 2 years ago
Holy fuck at that sustain. That's absolutely ridicolous. In a good way.
PriestofHiroshima 2 years ago 3
i wish that he would send a jem guitar my way.i would give it a good home!!!
racefaceec90 2 years ago
I don't know about the chords being in perfect pitch, I kinda miss the slow beating in regular guitars. But that sustain is sick!
ragasaraswati 2 years ago
slow beating?
mrlaa1 2 years ago
2:28 2:38!!!!impresionante!!!
jereibanez 2 years ago
Frets are for girls anyway ;P
No but really did Steve make this as an April fools or what?!
astiagogo 2 years ago
haha "frets are for girls"
:)
nah man though. it is real!
mrlaa1 2 years ago
The guitar that he is presenting is not "more in tune." it is tuned to a different system that is built on frequency ratios and physical properties of sound and is actually much older than equal temperament. the drawback is that in certain keys, like Ab, a major triad sounds extremely dissonant, so the possibility of transposing is quite limited.
nmodie 2 years ago
ehh... no...
rubank 2 years ago
The system is a way to get every fret in perfect tune, regardless of what string it's being played on. that's impossible with straight frets.
Zofar 2 years ago 2
I own two guitars with True Temperament frets (one Strat and one Les Paul) and it's made my life in a studio situation way easier! Now I don't have to worry about the problems with the B-string fucking up the B-C-D situation. The octaves are in perfect tuning and, as Vai said, the sustain has even improved. I'm even sometimes using a whole step detuning, and drop-D and it still works! There is NO difference when it comes to bending etc.
rubank 2 years ago 3
interesting. i play a nylon string acoustic most of the time. and i always thought i just had picky ears because i could never get my guitar quite in tune...i need one of these! :D
anyone know if they are particularly expensive?
mrlaa1 2 years ago
the "out of tune" phenomenon to which steve refers is not exclusive to the guitar, nor is it the result of the guitar being a "screwed up instrument." it is a system of determining the intervals of notes within an octave known as equal temperament.
nmodie 2 years ago
There are ways to get around this. When using distortion and playing rock music there are unique ways to play regular chords and the intonation is correct.
ppmguire 2 years ago
I want a neck like that T_T
benspears88 2 years ago 2
it's funny, every guitar player notices this after a few months of playing guitar, yet only now is it solved.
I WANT ONE!
OwnedRL 2 years ago 5
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bullshit...i can play an A and a D chord on my guitar and it be in tune
rob42164 2 years ago
no you can´t didn´t you listen what he said??
i bet steve knows much more about guitars than you!!
stocki94 2 years ago
rob42164, i can tell you as a luthier that you can play and A chord and a D chord in tune. But to do so, you must tune to those chords, and furthermore to those specific chord voicings. But when you do this other chords will be out of tune. Of course you could be like some of my clients and be able to defy mathmatics and physics.
mad3rab 2 years ago 5
I don't mind it being ever so slightly out of tune at times, I think it makes the chord seem more like what it is- three or more notes played together it really lets the individual notes stand out as they shake and disagree with each other you know?
raventears69 2 years ago
i love how we're listening to the intonation with all that shit on his tone. Although there is no doubt in my mind that he can hear all the difference. He's got the tiger woods ear of the guitar world. Cool intonation system. Does any one know how close it is to just intonation?
mad3rab 3 years ago
It´s a big differance between regular intonation and this system.
johnietex 2 years ago
I bet those necks cost a bomb
artestra 3 years ago
That true temperment is brilliant. Long time coming.
aliensporebomb 3 years ago
The acoustic/electric actually has been done by slash before.
DaanJM 3 years ago
as much as i hate to admit it... thats true
Rg1527 2 years ago
I just saw the interview from Oct 2007 in G W where Vai was pictured with these TT necks. I originally thought it was the way they photoshopped the pic. But now I think this new way to using just intonation and equal temperament is very cool.
jeffreycollins 3 years ago
Slash had the first acoustic and electric guitar called the goliath
Stevevaisi07 3 years ago
i'm pretty sure you are talking about the Gibson he plays in Dead Horse right???
jeffreycollins 3 years ago
i have thinked of build my own acustic/electric guitar... but now i see... i am not the first with the ide...
SimmiTN 3 years ago
True Temperament
Songsremainthesame 3 years ago
Ya decia yo, siempre cuando toco mi RG si bien afina muy bien siempre siento en ciertas partes una ligerisima desafinacion y conversando con otro colega guitarrista (con una guitarra un mas profesional que la mia)coincidiamos en eso.
Las cosas que uno se viene a enterar mmm.
lettoottel 3 years ago
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why do the frets on his guitars look all wavey or whiggly
ic300x 3 years ago
did u turn on the volume?
masbeni 3 years ago 2