The only thing that I notice that could be improved with this - if you haven't worked on it since posting it - is that the phasers on the Galaxy-class starships have what you could call "sparks" or "shiners" that trace through the phaser banks before converging at the discharge point.
@troy2062 Ah. I see them now. Quick little buggers in your animation, though. You can get a good look at them from the TV show in v=H_XbWq49vUM if you'd like, though, for comparison.
@Kelvari7882 Sometimes that's true, such as when they build more power, though if I remember they can also fire from only one point without charging from the other points on the array.
Awesome vid.....while the Sovereign class is newer and better in almost every way.....I'll always have a soft spot for the Galaxy class....just so regal.
Actually it is; the Galaxy class in both the technical manual, TNG and DS9 has been observed outputting more firepower than that of either the prometheus or Sovereign class, having far larger and more powerful arrays with a warp reaction chamber twice the size of the Sovereign, the ship being 2.5x the size, and has two giant torpedo launchers which can be hotloaded with 16 torpedoes firing 10 simultaneously from each tube. Sorry, the Galaxy class is more powerful, esp. with upgraded tech.
Put simply, according to the Technical Manual it is designed to be upgraded for 100 years from launch date with the latest technology, and has 2.5x the capacity of anything that can be fitted to the Sovereign class. The Sovereign was stated as a replacement for the aging Excelsior class fleet, and is a heavy cruiser, not a heavy battleship (which is what the Galaxy class is). It has
Sorry, but not. The Sovereign it's the most powerful, you can go on quoting technical manuals. No Galaxy can wisthstand what endured the Ent-E in Nemesis. The Ent-E has 10 torpedo tubes (as I know of) and quoting manuals, the designer says that can fire 12 torpedos per tube, and don't forget the type 12 phaser arrays...the Ent-E is 2 to 3 times more powerful than the Ent-D, being 3 times less volume. Don't think bad, i'm a huge fan of the galaxy myself, i think it's more elegant bud the facts..
Sorry, but you're wrong in everything you've just stated, as by onscreen evidence and the actual screenwriters/tech manuals. The creator of the Sovereign himself said (Rick Sternbach) it is in no way a match for the Galaxy class, and is not a replacement, but is a heavy cruiser replacement for the Excelsior class. This is logical; you're attempting to state that a ship 2.5x larger than another ship both kept technologically up to date by starfleet is less powerful. That is illogical and asinine.
No pal, YOU are wrong. The Sovereign class starship was designed by John Eaves under final supervision of Herman Zimmerman, not Rich Sternbach!! Rick designed the Galaxy!! and yes, the Sovereign is more powerful, even she is more small. Deal with that. If you are happy believing that the galaxy is better, fine, it's your problem. Even the intrepid class is better than the galaxy in a lot of things! I have other things to do that discuss this. Live long and prosper.
Thanks @troy2062 :-). @fpsBeaTt seems to have a problem with smaller being more powerful than bigger. hey! good video here, really! the illumination on the aztec pattern it's perfect. Your galaxy here is better for me than the CGI crap they used for the last episode of ENT. I always thought that that ent-D was very bad done and ugly. I love the galaxy and it's difficult to make her lines good. Keep the good work!
Sorry Troy, but that is completely unsubstantiated an counter-intuitive. There is no evidence (besides fanwank ie fanboy conjecture) to give any hint of the Sovereign being more powerful than the Galaxy class. I could direct you to the startrekonline forums where a few friends of mine (one a physicist) with my assistance proven irrefutably that the Galaxy class is superior in both design and practical terms. I can't go into depth on youtube, but no one here has given any evidence to the contrary
My mistake about the designer; however, my other statements are correct.You have given no evidence @ all while I have given statements by the designer, the tech manuals and the actual show; you have plucked numbers out of the air, and are now getting beligerent. You seem to be unable to grasp the stupidy of the statement you're trying to push, which is analagous to stating a 2009 hummer is superior to a 2000 Abrams tank. The Galaxy is superior in design and thus capability, accept it and grow up
Loool I was thinking the same about you, "sir" making statements from the wrong designer. YOU have to grow up, mister manuals XD (ups! :-D this is being beligerent!) As I said, I wont argue with you about something that every trekker knows, that the Sovereign is better. You are the only one that thinks the opposite, and I really don't care about it. As I said, you are happy believing this, fine :-D, it's your problem. And your comparison hummer-abrams...XDDDDDDDDD
lol, you really are an overgrown schoolboy aren't you "you're the only one who thinks that". What a pathetic and naive display of stupidity you've given. I guess that most of the people on the startrek online forums aren't trekkers, and the physics computations and visual evidence is all fabricated. You're just another moronic child who thinks the Sovereign is better for the same mundane reason as other morons "It's newer and looks better". You're living proof, morons don't know they're morons.
Despite the fact that it is more agile in combat, it has an armament of a few hundred Quantum Torpedoes, more powerful phasers than the Galaxy class, ablative hull armor, and new shield technology. In Nemesis, it was able to withstand far more hits than could be expected of a Galaxy class in the same situation.
1. It does not have an armament of a few hundred QTs, and infact exhausted its load after only one hundred launches.
2. It does not have more powerful phasers, and has been observed @ its most powerful shot releasing less than half of the Galaxy's most powerful blast.
3. The Galaxies were fitted with ablative armour (visible in DS9) when it was develloped.
4. The Galaxy is upgraded constantly with the latest tech, as designed and observed.
jaja :-) you won't pist me of, you can try. The only moron here is you, continuing a pointless duscussion.You see, other people tell you the same, sov is more powerful. You have an obsession with the galaxy class, and you can't be objective about it. In fact, I like more the lines of the gal more than the sov, but I know that the sov is better. I don't have a problem like "it's looks newer is better", but you have the problem that "smaller is more powerful than bigger".
...and the only child here it's you :-). Leaving the fact that you are wrong, you continue to try to have reason, but a inteligent person would let it go by now. I have an opinion that you wont change, and you have another (that I really don't care, I wont try to change yours). You have 19 right? get out there and get a life, really. I'm saying this cos at your age I was a bit obsessed like you (well, not like you, less!). Star trek is good to live with, but not to live by or to live for.. Live!
If 4 of them (probably on the highest yield) Can obliterate a borg sphere, and KO the cloak on the Scimitar in Nemesis when stadard photons and phaser fire clearly couldn't do, I think two well placed quantums right on the area where the warp core is should be able to deliver a crippling blow.
Take away the quantums from a Sovereign class, then thats more of an even match. But then as stated above the Sovereign still has regernerative shielding and ablative armor.
1. The borg sphere had no shielding or time to adapt, the Galaxy class almost destroying a cube on their first encounter.
2. The Sovereign's phasers are less than half the power of a Galaxy class, with a reactor chamber half the size powering them. It doesn't say much that it couldn't do much to the Scimitar with phasers, not to mention its warp core was disabled. Quantum torpedoes are also loaded to Galaxy classes.
@BenevolentIntellect thanks, you created an account for me! i'm touched XD i don't know why you insult me, and i don't really care XD you made me laught XD thanks for that. have a nice day!
@josepvg020785 Good for you; small minds are amused easily. I came to the conclusion you're an idiot from reading through the comments and your own insults directed @ another whom was making perfect sense. You, of course, stuck to your narrow minded opinion with religious zealousness with no evidence to substantiate your view. That is why I insult you, because you have shown yourself to insult those who put forward an intelligent argument with evidence to back them up.
@BenevolentIntellect sorry, but you don't know me at all. You like to insult people, fine, it's your time to waste. I don't care your opinion about me. Use your time to do something useful XD. And, my opinion about the gal and the sov, its my opinion, like others have, and frankly, i will not waste any time arguing about a thing that doesn't exist. Trek is great, but discussing things like this..lets say I have other things to do, you know? work, faculty..etc. o! and FUCK YOU XD. bye
Hi Troy, are you using ATI or Nvidia Card? because some cards might not be fully compatable on the program you are using. I'm also having some problems with mine, program just quits, or "run out of memory error" at first I thought it was the ram, so I put more in, but the same, not thinking it might be the card itself. Try updating your Driver of your card, might do the trick. I like the animation :) ahh, AE, I use that for phasers too, with the good old Zglow effect :)
I'm using an nVidia card. Although the problems have not been specific to 3DS Max. Generally speaking, the PC would freeze, reboot, or shutdown randomly.
I've narrowed the root cause to an unstable M/B (the EVGA 780i has been known for its issues). It'll only be a problem until late next month though (upgrading to Snow Leopard then), so nothing too serious right now :).
Lol, yes. I wanted it to be longer, but my usual rendering PC has decided to be stubborn and refuse to boot, so I'm stuck with the low-end Duo atm. Don't want to stress this one too much. xD
That was part of the reason I didn't use particles for the phaser. I took the cheap way out and just added it in AE (on the MB).
Yes. M/B and CPU are perfect, although compatibility doesn't seem so good. It runs perfectly with the 4500 Duo, so it looks like that will be the one I send it with. I'm going to run a BIOS update on the M/B to see if that fixes the problem of course.
About the shipping. Like I said, I will have it shipped as soon as expenses allow :).
With the Q6600, the main problem seems to be stability. It manages to load Windows perfectly, but doesn't do so well under load (app crashes, froze once).
It doesn't seem to be a hardware problem, but I'll know after the update...
I might get back into 3DS Max as I get a new powerful computer today that probably renders faster... might try something out with an XI Enterprise model hmm
Some one is in for a world of hurt...
hammerman6842 3 months ago
FIRE!
trekker123eski 5 months ago
Kirk disliked this 3 times
MrImastinker 6 months ago
I don't know but it seems they almost detonated a torpedo by own phaser :D
Freddran 7 months ago
yeah baby! fucking unload! awesome
spacexploder 8 months ago
Well done.
imh11621 8 months ago
I'm pretty sure that the Galaxy class can only fire 5 photon torpedoes per volley, per direction.
ResiusOnline 10 months ago
@ResiusOnline it can do 10 at once, but in 25 shots at that capacity they'd be all out
demonblues 9 months ago
Torpedo sound is off
1ownjoo2 10 months ago
Wow, great job. Almost perfect. 5 stars.
jayce79 11 months ago
Mmmmm...?
EdRfTg65 11 months ago
what program did u use to make this?
joethelantern 1 year ago
Good work! as a Trekkie this is just like the original ST:TNG when I was growing up.
Starskylina87 1 year ago
The only thing that I notice that could be improved with this - if you haven't worked on it since posting it - is that the phasers on the Galaxy-class starships have what you could call "sparks" or "shiners" that trace through the phaser banks before converging at the discharge point.
Kelvari7882 1 year ago
@Kelvari7882
They are there, but the animation is a bit fast. Watch carefully. ;)
troy2062 1 year ago 9
@troy2062 Ah. I see them now. Quick little buggers in your animation, though. You can get a good look at them from the TV show in v=H_XbWq49vUM if you'd like, though, for comparison.
Kelvari7882 1 year ago
@troy2062 but when it fires the rest of the bank is dark in you animation... shouldn't it be fully lit up?
apart from that it looks great tough!!
Herbarius 7 months ago
@troy2062 I saw it!
kaiyoshi2243 3 months ago
@Kelvari7882 Sometimes that's true, such as when they build more power, though if I remember they can also fire from only one point without charging from the other points on the array.
ProtoKun7 1 year ago
Wow that was pretty cool. Got a longer sequence?
chaff5 1 year ago
Not quite right... phaser array isn't lighting up like they do in the show...
terrywest111 1 year ago
Awesome vid.....while the Sovereign class is newer and better in almost every way.....I'll always have a soft spot for the Galaxy class....just so regal.
compmanio36 1 year ago
Very awesome!
Trubyd44 1 year ago
Why does every video on here descend into an argument about which is better?
Lets face it, it all exists in our mind anyway, so which ship is better to you is probably just whichever ship you prefer.
I admit I think the Sovereign is my favourite but that's based purely on the aesthetics of the design, nothing else.
And just because I think it looks better doesn't mean I think the Galaxy class looks bad, far from it!
What matters is this video is great! The phasers had their charging pulse!
cdname47 2 years ago
hellos is there any chance that you could give me a download link i would love to have this beauty
yours truly
Dalek1230 2 years ago
@Dalek1230
I don't have access to the mesh at the moment, but I should be able to send you a link to it later when I get back to my old PC. :)
troy2062 2 years ago
thank you :)
Dalek1230 2 years ago
Fire at will!!!!
f90bird 2 years ago
Epic, the most powerful ship in the fleet.
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
@fpsBeaTt Actually it's not, the Sovereign and Prometheus beats it, but the Galaxy's still a pretty heftly ship
camaro2371 2 years ago
Actually it is; the Galaxy class in both the technical manual, TNG and DS9 has been observed outputting more firepower than that of either the prometheus or Sovereign class, having far larger and more powerful arrays with a warp reaction chamber twice the size of the Sovereign, the ship being 2.5x the size, and has two giant torpedo launchers which can be hotloaded with 16 torpedoes firing 10 simultaneously from each tube. Sorry, the Galaxy class is more powerful, esp. with upgraded tech.
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
Put simply, according to the Technical Manual it is designed to be upgraded for 100 years from launch date with the latest technology, and has 2.5x the capacity of anything that can be fitted to the Sovereign class. The Sovereign was stated as a replacement for the aging Excelsior class fleet, and is a heavy cruiser, not a heavy battleship (which is what the Galaxy class is). It has
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
Sorry, but not. The Sovereign it's the most powerful, you can go on quoting technical manuals. No Galaxy can wisthstand what endured the Ent-E in Nemesis. The Ent-E has 10 torpedo tubes (as I know of) and quoting manuals, the designer says that can fire 12 torpedos per tube, and don't forget the type 12 phaser arrays...the Ent-E is 2 to 3 times more powerful than the Ent-D, being 3 times less volume. Don't think bad, i'm a huge fan of the galaxy myself, i think it's more elegant bud the facts..
josepvg020785 2 years ago
Sorry, but you're wrong in everything you've just stated, as by onscreen evidence and the actual screenwriters/tech manuals. The creator of the Sovereign himself said (Rick Sternbach) it is in no way a match for the Galaxy class, and is not a replacement, but is a heavy cruiser replacement for the Excelsior class. This is logical; you're attempting to state that a ship 2.5x larger than another ship both kept technologically up to date by starfleet is less powerful. That is illogical and asinine.
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
No pal, YOU are wrong. The Sovereign class starship was designed by John Eaves under final supervision of Herman Zimmerman, not Rich Sternbach!! Rick designed the Galaxy!! and yes, the Sovereign is more powerful, even she is more small. Deal with that. If you are happy believing that the galaxy is better, fine, it's your problem. Even the intrepid class is better than the galaxy in a lot of things! I have other things to do that discuss this. Live long and prosper.
josepvg020785 2 years ago
@josepvg020785
You are absolutely correct. Sovereign Class ships are considerably more powerful than Galaxy Class ships.
troy2062 2 years ago
Thanks @troy2062 :-). @fpsBeaTt seems to have a problem with smaller being more powerful than bigger. hey! good video here, really! the illumination on the aztec pattern it's perfect. Your galaxy here is better for me than the CGI crap they used for the last episode of ENT. I always thought that that ent-D was very bad done and ugly. I love the galaxy and it's difficult to make her lines good. Keep the good work!
josepvg020785 2 years ago
Sorry Troy, but that is completely unsubstantiated an counter-intuitive. There is no evidence (besides fanwank ie fanboy conjecture) to give any hint of the Sovereign being more powerful than the Galaxy class. I could direct you to the startrekonline forums where a few friends of mine (one a physicist) with my assistance proven irrefutably that the Galaxy class is superior in both design and practical terms. I can't go into depth on youtube, but no one here has given any evidence to the contrary
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
@fpsBeaTt OMG.........
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
My mistake about the designer; however, my other statements are correct.You have given no evidence @ all while I have given statements by the designer, the tech manuals and the actual show; you have plucked numbers out of the air, and are now getting beligerent. You seem to be unable to grasp the stupidy of the statement you're trying to push, which is analagous to stating a 2009 hummer is superior to a 2000 Abrams tank. The Galaxy is superior in design and thus capability, accept it and grow up
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
Loool I was thinking the same about you, "sir" making statements from the wrong designer. YOU have to grow up, mister manuals XD (ups! :-D this is being beligerent!) As I said, I wont argue with you about something that every trekker knows, that the Sovereign is better. You are the only one that thinks the opposite, and I really don't care about it. As I said, you are happy believing this, fine :-D, it's your problem. And your comparison hummer-abrams...XDDDDDDDDD
Happy new year Galaxy class :-D
josepvg020785 2 years ago
lol, you really are an overgrown schoolboy aren't you "you're the only one who thinks that". What a pathetic and naive display of stupidity you've given. I guess that most of the people on the startrek online forums aren't trekkers, and the physics computations and visual evidence is all fabricated. You're just another moronic child who thinks the Sovereign is better for the same mundane reason as other morons "It's newer and looks better". You're living proof, morons don't know they're morons.
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
@fpsBeaTt
The Sovereign class is superior.
Despite the fact that it is more agile in combat, it has an armament of a few hundred Quantum Torpedoes, more powerful phasers than the Galaxy class, ablative hull armor, and new shield technology. In Nemesis, it was able to withstand far more hits than could be expected of a Galaxy class in the same situation.
troy2062 2 years ago
1. It does not have an armament of a few hundred QTs, and infact exhausted its load after only one hundred launches.
2. It does not have more powerful phasers, and has been observed @ its most powerful shot releasing less than half of the Galaxy's most powerful blast.
3. The Galaxies were fitted with ablative armour (visible in DS9) when it was develloped.
4. The Galaxy is upgraded constantly with the latest tech, as designed and observed.
5. Your last point is completely unsubstantiated.
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
jaja :-) you won't pist me of, you can try. The only moron here is you, continuing a pointless duscussion.You see, other people tell you the same, sov is more powerful. You have an obsession with the galaxy class, and you can't be objective about it. In fact, I like more the lines of the gal more than the sov, but I know that the sov is better. I don't have a problem like "it's looks newer is better", but you have the problem that "smaller is more powerful than bigger".
josepvg020785 2 years ago
...and the only child here it's you :-). Leaving the fact that you are wrong, you continue to try to have reason, but a inteligent person would let it go by now. I have an opinion that you wont change, and you have another (that I really don't care, I wont try to change yours). You have 19 right? get out there and get a life, really. I'm saying this cos at your age I was a bit obsessed like you (well, not like you, less!). Star trek is good to live with, but not to live by or to live for.. Live!
josepvg020785 2 years ago
**Quantum Torpedoes**
If 4 of them (probably on the highest yield) Can obliterate a borg sphere, and KO the cloak on the Scimitar in Nemesis when stadard photons and phaser fire clearly couldn't do, I think two well placed quantums right on the area where the warp core is should be able to deliver a crippling blow.
Take away the quantums from a Sovereign class, then thats more of an even match. But then as stated above the Sovereign still has regernerative shielding and ablative armor.
Lopezs777 2 years ago
1. The borg sphere had no shielding or time to adapt, the Galaxy class almost destroying a cube on their first encounter.
2. The Sovereign's phasers are less than half the power of a Galaxy class, with a reactor chamber half the size powering them. It doesn't say much that it couldn't do much to the Scimitar with phasers, not to mention its warp core was disabled. Quantum torpedoes are also loaded to Galaxy classes.
fpsBeaTt 2 years ago
@josepvg020785 Wow; you're actually so stupid I had to create an account to say how stupid you are.
BenevolentIntellect 1 year ago
@BenevolentIntellect thanks, you created an account for me! i'm touched XD i don't know why you insult me, and i don't really care XD you made me laught XD thanks for that. have a nice day!
josepvg020785 1 year ago
@josepvg020785 Good for you; small minds are amused easily. I came to the conclusion you're an idiot from reading through the comments and your own insults directed @ another whom was making perfect sense. You, of course, stuck to your narrow minded opinion with religious zealousness with no evidence to substantiate your view. That is why I insult you, because you have shown yourself to insult those who put forward an intelligent argument with evidence to back them up.
BenevolentIntellect 1 year ago
@BenevolentIntellect sorry, but you don't know me at all. You like to insult people, fine, it's your time to waste. I don't care your opinion about me. Use your time to do something useful XD. And, my opinion about the gal and the sov, its my opinion, like others have, and frankly, i will not waste any time arguing about a thing that doesn't exist. Trek is great, but discussing things like this..lets say I have other things to do, you know? work, faculty..etc. o! and FUCK YOU XD. bye
josepvg020785 1 year ago
Hi Troy, are you using ATI or Nvidia Card? because some cards might not be fully compatable on the program you are using. I'm also having some problems with mine, program just quits, or "run out of memory error" at first I thought it was the ram, so I put more in, but the same, not thinking it might be the card itself. Try updating your Driver of your card, might do the trick. I like the animation :) ahh, AE, I use that for phasers too, with the good old Zglow effect :)
Zcontinuum 2 years ago
I'm using an nVidia card. Although the problems have not been specific to 3DS Max. Generally speaking, the PC would freeze, reboot, or shutdown randomly.
I've narrowed the root cause to an unstable M/B (the EVGA 780i has been known for its issues). It'll only be a problem until late next month though (upgrading to Snow Leopard then), so nothing too serious right now :).
troy2062 2 years ago
Nice, a bit quick though, lol.
Airportchris2 2 years ago
Lol, yes. I wanted it to be longer, but my usual rendering PC has decided to be stubborn and refuse to boot, so I'm stuck with the low-end Duo atm. Don't want to stress this one too much. xD
That was part of the reason I didn't use particles for the phaser. I took the cheap way out and just added it in AE (on the MB).
troy2062 2 years ago
lol.
So, any word about the stuff?
Airportchris2 2 years ago
Yes. M/B and CPU are perfect, although compatibility doesn't seem so good. It runs perfectly with the 4500 Duo, so it looks like that will be the one I send it with. I'm going to run a BIOS update on the M/B to see if that fixes the problem of course.
About the shipping. Like I said, I will have it shipped as soon as expenses allow :).
troy2062 2 years ago
What's the issues that come up?
I hope the BIOS update does the trick, lol.
ok, no problem.
Airportchris2 2 years ago
With the Q6600, the main problem seems to be stability. It manages to load Windows perfectly, but doesn't do so well under load (app crashes, froze once).
It doesn't seem to be a hardware problem, but I'll know after the update...
troy2062 2 years ago
ah, ok.
Sounds software related to me.
I am sure you'll have more luck with it, than I would, lol.
Airportchris2 2 years ago
what effects did u use for the phaser and torpedoes?
RogueAbridger 2 years ago
The torpedoes were created using particle flow and FinalFlares.
The phaser was created manually in After Effects (always good to do it he old fashioned way!).
troy2062 2 years ago
That was pree frickin sweet, lol
I might get back into 3DS Max as I get a new powerful computer today that probably renders faster... might try something out with an XI Enterprise model hmm
deltanalliance 2 years ago