What do you think about fiscal conservatives who are also social conservatives?

[Yanirakarola]

I love how modern day "Libertarians" like to debate Republicans who say "Libertarianism isn't practical" and yet when real Libertarians (or "Anarcho Capitalists") bring up actual philosophy, modern day "Libertarians" say "Well, that's not practical".

[Itugen88]

Agree with several users on here and Ron Paul - I am a Christian libertarian, where I have my views on what is moral and what is not, BUT, as long as another person's liberty is not damaged, I don't think the government has any business telling people they can't use medical marijuana or have gay marriage. I am still pro-life with abortion however, due to the loss of liberty for the unborn child (who is not a part of the mother's body).

[ninjaboynaru]

@Itugen88 We are living in a Socialist America, not a Capitalist America. Government regulating food, businesses, education, insurance, technology, aquaculture, internet, industry and anything else you can think of. 9% of Americans on welfare and 91% of illegal immigrants on welfare. Ridiculously high taxes on the rich and middle class. Wake up and lets take action (peaceful action) . Join Patriots Reborn.

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[jeb31415]

God bless unfettered capitalism.

[MrAbolitionist]

I'm not a social conservative, but I am a pro-lifer. Abortion and euthanasia violates the non-aggression axiom that is at the heart of libertarian ism, just as much as other forms of legalized homicide like war and the death penalty.

[jjmdirector]

hehe he said tiddle



[KenMacMillan]

The Jeffersonian founders were libertarian minded social conservatives.

[Jotto999]

I'm socially very liberal. I have no problem with the social conservatives who think the government should stay out of our personal lives. I barely even consider them social conservatives because what they have is more just a personal life philosophy or guideline, not a political agenda. This makes them not much to worry about since their liberty overrides their desire to control other people.

But if you want the government to try and control my personal decisions, fuck you.

[Jingles2423x]

I like Ron Paul's view of social conservatism. He is a social conservative, but he recognizes you can for your beliefs/morality on others by force/legislation. You can be a social conservative yet you can also reject the drug war, allow for same-sex marriage, etc...

[Jingles2423x]

@Jingles2423x

you can't force*

[therealaj123]

@Jingles2423x Ron Paul is in favor of big government when it comes to social conservatism (introduced the Sanctity of Life Act of 2005 in Congress which would have banned abortions nationwide, spoke out in favor of States being able to pass laws against flag burning and sodomy), don't fool yourself.

[svd348]

These are great!

[XCritonX]

I am socially and fiscally very conservative. However I hate government social manipulation because:

1) Any government big enough to impose my social views on others is big enough to impose other peoples social views on me.

2) Since I sincerely believe that my social views are are the best ones to create a happy life for me and my family, I don't see a need for government to enforce them, nature will reward the best choices.

[TheLegalImmigrant05]

@XCritonX Well said.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

@XCritonX very well said

[ninjaboynaru]

@XCritonX We are living in a Socialist America, not a Capitalist America. Government regulating food, businesses, education, insurance, technology, aquaculture, internet, industry and anything else you can think of. 9% of Americans on welfare and 91% of illegal immigrants on welfare. Ridiculously high taxes on the rich and middle class. Wake up and lets take action (peaceful action) .

Message me if any one has any ideas.

Alone I am weak but together we are strong.

[SanguineBullet667]

@XCritonX but being a social conservative means that you advocate for government programs to force that view point onto others (marriage, blue laws, etc) whether you intent to or not.

[XCritonX]

@SanguineBullet667 You are wrong. I am all for private social pressures to control social and society values. What I do not want is the government to be involved in social engineering, leave it to us free minds to work out by ourselves.

In fact I believe in government deregulation of marriage. Get government out of marriage, it is a religious institution, not a secular one.

[SanguineBullet667]

@XCritonX So you advocate for the disbandment of blue laws?

[XCritonX]

@SanguineBullet667 Why the heck would I want the government telling what I could buy and when? I am a free market supporter. Blue laws breach the 1st amendment because they are government enforced religious edicts. They are also stupid, I can still drink whiskey on Sunday even if I cant buy it. I just buy it on Friday. It only stops procrastinators for drinking on Sundays.

[SanguineBullet667]

@XCritonX that's why it's called 'social' conservatism. it's not just about you but all of society.

[thexjib]

I have a problem with "fiscal conservatives" who are not... like every last elected GOP politician except maybe Ron Paul.

[johnafielding]

I was with them until they said that social conservatives have nothing to lose but their irrelevance to political debates. Kettle, pot is on the line....

[jaymthegenius]

The problem I have with social conservatives is their promotion of one religion over others, implicit, and even explicit approval of bigotry, approving of privileges for certain groups over others, not acknowledging that a woman's body is hers and hers alone, that doctors and Iraqi children already born are immune from the "sanctity of life" while a group of cells isn't, won't shut up about welfare (only .7% of the budget) while saying nothing of overbloated military spending, etc.

[jaymthegenius]

@jaymthegenius Regarding religion: Of course they believe their religion is the one true one or else they wouldn't be said religion, but they don't have to impose their views on the rest of the country. If they refuse to hire or serve religious minorities that should be the business owners' individual free choice, and the consumers who fall outside of such can exercise their rights as consumers not to purchase their products and to boycott.

[2plus2make4]

@jaymthegenius well said.

[qncsc]

funny guys!