Actually, I don't sympathize with Hatsumomo. In the book she managed to scrape by in a lot of situations for her legendary beauty, which exceeded even Sayuri's. She plotted and connived and hurt people to get what she wanted, her looks such a huge advantage that it outweighed her horrid personality. By contrast, Sayuri had to be clever to get ahead.
If this film is good in English, think how much better it could be in Japanease!. That way I could watch this and study for my japanease exam at the same time.
Hatsumomo is portrayed perfectly in this movie. Beautiful in an untouchable, regal, haughty way, but her beauty marred by her cruelty and self-serving goals. The woman who acted Hatsumomo was absolutely perfect.
I just love Hatsumomo's gaze here. Just with her eyes, we can see it's the moment when she understand the full potential of Chiyo, even if she's just a child... and she's frightened of that.
FYI The meaning behind the blue eyes are meant to show TWO things: FIRST:how beautiful the child is, and how anyone who laid their eyes on her would be taken back by her captivating beauty. SECOND: for those who aren't familiar with seeing asians, some ppl tend to think asians all look alike or the same. So in order for the viewer not to get lost in the characters the Blue eyes helps pinpoint out who is who, especially the main character Sayuri. Which is good soo its pretty good idea :)
@kira24ist I had to be "that girl," but the book describes that, in the culture at the time, the eyes of most people in Japan were brown, symbolizing that they had a proper balance of the elements within them (wood, water, fire, earth, etc.). However, people believed that Chiyo's blue eyes meant she had far more water than anything else in her personality, meaning she was strong, like water, but also adaptable, resourceful, and unable to be held down.
@IAONGL I think it's representative of her character. I read somewhere that each character had hairstyles symbolic of their personality: Hatsumomo's was always sort of wild, Mameha's simple and elegant, and Sayuri's was understated to show off her natural beauty.
Hatsumomo did pay her debts by age 20. Although she was the most popular geisha, she was unable to find a danna since she made the mistake by angering the mistress of her prime teahouse, Mizuki. This is why she remained in the Nitta Okiya under Mother's watch. Mameha mentioned that to Chiyo
Hatsumomo is the all Japanese bitch! She's so cruel and beautiful......It's nice to see a bitchy Asian woman....usually they're white or in some cases black in the fiction genre....
Hatsumomo told Chiyo if she wanted to find her sister, then she'll do whatever she tells her to do. Basically she wants her to do her dirty work so she'll get blamed for everything. Auntie warned Chiyo not to get involed with Hatsumomo because she'll ruin her life if she does.
@menteri168 try again, if you've read the book, it states clearly how much the kimono's weigh and how much padding and everything that goes into it. And not just the kimono... but makeup and hair too (especially the hair)
If I was Chiyo I would just told her, "Well i have to clean it, they told me so. Unless you want rats in your room, then I'll leave it alone. Enjoy being bitten, bitch!"
@unwrittenmariposa09 well today sure we would say something that to her but back then hatsomomo was her senior so she had to show respect to her no matter what. it was all about respect back then. kids didnt talk back and rarely disobeyed in those times. jsut the way things were...
@HeartbrokenAngel009: Yeah I understand. I know how it was different now, but it doesn't hurt to put my opinions on what I would do in that moment or to make fun of that moment anyways. xD
@darliiingz03 Even though they used her real hair in the movie, you see hatsumom wearing something on her head, that's what geisha use on their head to put on the wigs, plus if you look closely to the left of her mirror after scaring off chiyo you can see a wig on a stand
Just because Hatsumomo had a hard life does not mean that gives her the right to be such a bitch. lots of geisha have had hard lives but you do not see them being so mean, hell some geisha have it worse than she does, they are improper geisha with poor okiya and no engagements, while Hatsumomo is beautiful and has many admirers and revenue. Chiyo had a hard life also but she was always nice.
I really feel for Hatsumomo. Imagine spending your entire life training to be a Geisha, putting yourself through hell over and over again to be the best, and then realising you can't be the best anymore, just because some country girl who has never tasted the kind of pain you have has blue eyes. She didn't have to work to stand out, she just did.
@bedheadsweetie I guess it depends if you've read the book or not before this. I'm sure you might've read it by now, but Hatsumomo is no one you'd feel sorry for in the book. She's a horrible woman with nothing but herself in mind. I suppose the movie paints a slightly different picture.
@bedheadsweetie I don't feel for Hatsumomo. Her life was probably only as painful as Chiyo's - probably less, because Hatsomomo never had to work as a slave. In fact, Chiyo probably had a harder time than most geisha because she had to learn everything so fast. Chiyo didn't destroy Hatsumomo's chances; Hatsumomo did that herself, because she was too much of a bitch to ever attract a dana and become independent.
@OneDarkAutumn True that. Hastumomo has her own defect of character that makes her not quite as successful as Mameha. Mameha became independent and lives outside of an Okiya, Hastumomo lives in the Okiya because she isn't nice enough to keep a danna.
@piiikj ehhh NO. it is hatsuMomo in the book you genius. i have it right in front of me and i am staring at it right now. MY book says hatsuMomo. dont know what you are looking at.
@504AVP well , im latinoamerican , and well you know , and im not telling myself a genius , ehh i dont get why you say that , well , i tell you again in the spanish version ( cause im latinoamerican) her name its hatsumono , :3
It bothers me how they called her Pumpkin before Chiyo came to the okiya. In the book, Chiyo came up with the name because of Pumpkin's plump face and how her tongue looked like a stem from sticking it out in concentration.
Geisha are not like normal people.they must be elagant,smart,respectful,talented,and a virgin. they suffer to please men for money but without sex. like in the movie they create another kind of world a world of beauty.
Hatsumomo, so wicked, bitter and one hell of a bitch yet she's so beautiful and elegant, I can't help but like her as a character both in the book and film.
That maybe sounds weird, but Hatsumomo somehow reminds me of a female version of Severus Snape and Chiyo reminds me of a female version of Harry Potter. I mean look at this hateful gaze in 3:15, iisn't this actually Snape looking at Harry? Bedroom eyes...
@ladyjosephinelover not a costume. its a real kimono that a real kimono maker made some of them are actually vintage in this movie. for the actors sake they dnt wear every single piece of the under laters of the kimono for comfort
@omarish5 her first name is Li and her last name is Gong. in china, the traditional way to say or write a name is LAST NAME, FIRST NAME instead of FIRST NAME, LAST NAME
Hatsumomo is almost divine. She's so beautiful, even the way her hair falls over her face. Although she's damaged, her beauty is her power, I wish I could be like her!!
"we don't not sell skin" okay she never said that in the book one everything thier was all about proititues in the geisha world, geisha's are beautiful and have a stories but "we do not sell skin" was a whole bumch of bullshit
People, I'm well aware of the fact that Japan is a male-dominated society (so please, enough with the history lessons already)
Besides, it can be argued that most societies in the world are male-dominated (including the U.S.) To me, it's not about culture of society, it's about free will: about what people are and aren't capable of doing regardless of all that other stuff (Besides, I found a show about males entertaining females so my point has already been proven) ^_^
I love Hatsumomo, but she does have her slightly psychotic tendencies throughout the film, haha. I find it funny how 9:34 through 9:42 is somewhat of a touching moment between her and Chiyo and it's ruined by the end.
Gong Li does not really speak English. She memorizes the English scene by scene. She does very well. Now that she lives in Singapore, maybe she is fluent now. She is very professional.
I just finished watching this AMAZING show. . .Ouran High School Host Club, it totally proved that beautiful men can provide quality entertainment for the opposite sex ^_^ (BTW, thank you to however recommended the show to me, I know it was a while ago. . .)
Hatsumomo was scared of Chiyo for a reason. Not only she was beautiful with her rare blue-grey eyes, she was also gifted and graceful. If Chiyo becomes a successful geisha and Mother adopts her, she'll be thrown out. That's why Hatsumomo was doing all the mean things to her, she wanted to knock off the competition early. Whereas, she saw Pumpkin as no threat to her because she was slow and clumsy. Hatsumomo knew she would help secure her position.
Sayuri was named Mother's adopted daughter and heir to the Nitta Okiya when it was learned how much money she would make. I'm sure she didn't mean to take that away from Pumpkin. However, Sayuri didn't have a choice since Hatsumomo was still determined to get rid of her. Over the course of the war, Pumpkin grew bitter and blamed Sayuri for her homeless status.
@dymchurch1 HI ......Pumpkin betrayed Chiyo because chiyo ending up getting adopted and inheritting the Okiya(the house) which was promised to Pumpkin apparently......
@dymchurch1 Sayuri had the upper hand because she began making more money further on. . in the book sayuri said that in the end she was in mothers favor because she had more revenue but that wouldn't stop hatsumomo in the long run and becoming adopted mother was her only way
@ladyfire44 Wow! That is so true! I actually didn't notice that. Thanks for saying that! :D I can finally understand the whole story a bit better now! :) Arigatou gozaimasu~ ^^
@XpeanutttX Basically Hatsumomo want's Chiyo to do all of her dirty work so that Chyio will get the blame and not her (for instance how she made Chiyo destroy the kimono). Well that's how I see it.
Hatsumomo knows where Satsu is and if Chiyo wants the information, then she'll do whatever she orders her to do. She wanted her to do her dirty work and get blamed for it so she won't have to worry about her later on. Auntie warned Chiyo not to trust Hatsumomo because she'll end up ruining her potential career as a geisha.
@LoiseAriane no, no you don't. While geishas are not prostitutes, and were very respectable, it was an extremely hard life to live. You had to entertain men non-stop, with hold any negative emotion. One mistake could ruin you and your reputation. While I admire them their courage, I would never want to be in their postition.
@wolfheart310 I don't get that impression. I don't think Hatsumomo was ever like that, pure and innocent. I think she immediately sees how beautiful Chiyo is - or will become - and therefore feels threatened.
I fully understand that the first geishas were male and that there are SOME male geishas, but I'm assuming that like with prostitutes, cheerleaders, and exotic dancers the women outnumber the men. . .
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN True, but then look at the music industry. I'd say that's an extremely male saturated entertainment business. Yes there are women, but the amount of exposure and respect they receive pales in comparison. And, at least in the U.S., success is based mostly on looks and marketing instead of quality. Good looking men get whored out to the female fans as an image. Boy bands are a perfect example. There are so many "eye candy" professions that end up oddly gender specific.
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Ah! Cirque de Soleil comes to mind too. Some acts feature nothing BUT sexy dudes performing awesome skills. Some actors have a hard time retaining their integrity too. It would suck to loose out on some good dramatic roles because you're typecast as a pretty boy. That's why DiCaprio went off the map for a while, and why Johnny Depp was very selective after 21 Jump Street. They didn't want to be stuck in hot-guy mode for the rest of forever.
Can someone tell me where I can find images of japanese cities like in 9:48? It's for a project in school and I'm having a really hard time looking for a photo that's close enough. I've tried tons of really good keywords but none of them seem to be working. Can someone help me please? Links would be really appreciated. Thanks so much!
I would suggest to any wanting more info about Geisha to read the book that this movie is based off of or Geisha a Life by Mineko Iwasaki. I would love to be pointed in the direction of more books about Geisha.
Not a lot of books on Geishas but there is a 1983 Japanese movie called Yoriko (english title- The Geisha) starring .Kimiko Ikegami. Gritty and no where near as romantic as Memoirs but worth viewing. Netflix has it.
I don't think that there's anything wrong with being a geisha (for the most part) like someone else said, they aren't prostitutes. But just to be fair, they should have a male version of a geisha too: handsome looking men who learn various skills in order to entertain women. It shouldn't just be a one way street, you know? If it's possible for men to enjoy female company in a non-sexual way, then it's perfectly natural and possible for the roles to be reversed, right?
@Sirena101 LOL well, I think it's about time for males to become geisha's (or whatever the correct term may be) again. Like I said, it wouldn't be fair if it's just women putting in all the time and sacrifice to please men (and still trying to keep their own dignity and self worth through the whole ordeal) I definately think it's possible for a woman to appreciate a handsome/skilled man ^_^
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN i do agree with the equal opportunity idea but just to clarify the first geisha in history actually were men... i just dont know what happened to them. hahaha
Competition sucks.
nivsha 4 days ago
I didnt like reading the book. I thought the main character was so conceited in a look-at-me, I'm so special kind of way. Hated her.
Kikyogirl 1 week ago
they looked so cute when the were running to school!
wackoFuzzay 1 week ago
Actually, I don't sympathize with Hatsumomo. In the book she managed to scrape by in a lot of situations for her legendary beauty, which exceeded even Sayuri's. She plotted and connived and hurt people to get what she wanted, her looks such a huge advantage that it outweighed her horrid personality. By contrast, Sayuri had to be clever to get ahead.
thescrpionsgrl 1 week ago
If this film is good in English, think how much better it could be in Japanease!. That way I could watch this and study for my japanease exam at the same time.
moraz21 3 weeks ago
Hatsumomo is portrayed perfectly in this movie. Beautiful in an untouchable, regal, haughty way, but her beauty marred by her cruelty and self-serving goals. The woman who acted Hatsumomo was absolutely perfect.
PrincipessaDellOpera 3 weeks ago 3
03:08
I just love Hatsumomo's gaze here. Just with her eyes, we can see it's the moment when she understand the full potential of Chiyo, even if she's just a child... and she's frightened of that.
Lumitikal 1 month ago 4
People should really read the book. Its goes into much more detail, and you get to know the characters more. :P
AlexxxTheCuteGiraffe 1 month ago 6
FYI The meaning behind the blue eyes are meant to show TWO things: FIRST:how beautiful the child is, and how anyone who laid their eyes on her would be taken back by her captivating beauty. SECOND: for those who aren't familiar with seeing asians, some ppl tend to think asians all look alike or the same. So in order for the viewer not to get lost in the characters the Blue eyes helps pinpoint out who is who, especially the main character Sayuri. Which is good soo its pretty good idea :)
kira24ist 1 month ago 2
@kira24ist I had to be "that girl," but the book describes that, in the culture at the time, the eyes of most people in Japan were brown, symbolizing that they had a proper balance of the elements within them (wood, water, fire, earth, etc.). However, people believed that Chiyo's blue eyes meant she had far more water than anything else in her personality, meaning she was strong, like water, but also adaptable, resourceful, and unable to be held down.
isnessx3 1 month ago
I've seen this movie already fully hahhaa!
TheFaniable 2 months ago
I know Hatsumomo is a bad person, but I'd be lying if I'd say that she's ugly :)
1jedwardfan 2 months ago 4
This movie makes me wish I was Asian. >.<
iluvshia1 2 months ago 12
why is hatsumomo's hair so messy? lol at first i thought it was just cause she just got out of bed, then later it was still like that
IAONGL 2 months ago 2
@IAONGL I think it's representative of her character. I read somewhere that each character had hairstyles symbolic of their personality: Hatsumomo's was always sort of wild, Mameha's simple and elegant, and Sayuri's was understated to show off her natural beauty.
dontbesoforLorn 2 months ago in playlist More videos from ronniemonnie 4
-.- whatever it is.. Maybe~ .. hatsumomo's..cruel.. But she's beautiful.. She's GORGEOUS!!!
mariawithmakeup 2 months ago 3
3:11 you see fear and jealousy in Hatsumomo's face
riliana412 2 months ago
wait....wait hatsumomo never paid her debts by 20 that was the deal mameha set up with mother for chiyo !
felineshadow0221 3 months ago
Hatsumomo did pay her debts by age 20. Although she was the most popular geisha, she was unable to find a danna since she made the mistake by angering the mistress of her prime teahouse, Mizuki. This is why she remained in the Nitta Okiya under Mother's watch. Mameha mentioned that to Chiyo
ladyfire44 2 months ago
I watched the movie A Geisha, which is on youtube too, it's a great movie
xShadowxPhoenix 3 months ago
Hatsumomo is the all Japanese bitch! She's so cruel and beautiful......It's nice to see a bitchy Asian woman....usually they're white or in some cases black in the fiction genre....
Bloombaby99 3 months ago
5:56 I remember that part in the book....so descriptive and now that I see it for reals, oh god...scary D: But the movie is aweshum :D
Valuabl3Sh3aves 3 months ago
I wish that they showed how she got fucked over by tanaka
Deneezy1 3 months ago 2
@Deneezy1 Yeah the movie left out so many fucking things. >_>
Jordansky004 3 months ago
not the same as the book....
ebuzoro 3 months ago
I love the actor that plays Chiyo, she's so adorable and sassy! Haha <3
XbluejuiceXx 3 months ago
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
EdwardCullenzGurl 4 months ago
I hate how even in the beginning the movie leave SO much out that the book has. It makes me sad. ;;
MrsEmote 4 months ago
Hatsumomo is gorgeous but she is a bitch. :c
XxlorielovebearxX 4 months ago in playlist More videos from ronniemonnie
@Applebutter799 ohhhh, ok. i wasn't sure what was going on. lol.
kybridancer7 4 months ago
That girl just picked up a stick with meat on it and said, "Mmmm... squid." tf...?
kybridancer7 4 months ago 2
@kybridancer7 they are only being fed enough to keep them alive and mostly healthy - she was starving and it was a treat
Applebutter799 4 months ago in playlist More videos from ronniemonnie
hatsumomo is so beautiful to bad her personality isnt..
cArli3lmin 4 months ago
Hatsumomo is just jealous because she can see that chiyo will become much more beautiful than her :P
nessieflowers1025 5 months ago
what did she say to the little girl if she wants to find her sister back?
menteri168 5 months ago
Hatsumomo told Chiyo if she wanted to find her sister, then she'll do whatever she tells her to do. Basically she wants her to do her dirty work so she'll get blamed for everything. Auntie warned Chiyo not to get involed with Hatsumomo because she'll ruin her life if she does.
ladyfire44 5 months ago
awww it looks so fun to wear those pretty kimonos since young
menteri168 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ronniemonnie
@menteri168 try again, if you've read the book, it states clearly how much the kimono's weigh and how much padding and everything that goes into it. And not just the kimono... but makeup and hair too (especially the hair)
Applebutter799 5 months ago
What is the little girls' character name?
darkemo57 5 months ago
Chiyo. Her Geisha name when she get's older is Sayuri
ladyfire44 5 months ago
hatsumomo may not be as sweet as her name is, but her red dress is rlly pretty! :)
UsagiLoveX3 6 months ago
GONG LI IS SO BEAUTIFUL <3
blackhorse099 6 months ago 3
If I was Chiyo I would just told her, "Well i have to clean it, they told me so. Unless you want rats in your room, then I'll leave it alone. Enjoy being bitten, bitch!"
unwrittenmariposa09 6 months ago 74
@unwrittenmariposa09 bahahahaha o shit you're funny
mixedmamii713 4 months ago
@unwrittenmariposa09 well today sure we would say something that to her but back then hatsomomo was her senior so she had to show respect to her no matter what. it was all about respect back then. kids didnt talk back and rarely disobeyed in those times. jsut the way things were...
HeartbrokenAngel009 3 months ago
@HeartbrokenAngel009: Yeah I understand. I know how it was different now, but it doesn't hurt to put my opinions on what I would do in that moment or to make fun of that moment anyways. xD
unwrittenmariposa09 3 months ago
@unwrittenmariposa09: I LOVE IT!!!! :D
Bloombaby99 3 months ago
Another inaccuracy, Geisha didn't start buying wigs til the 60s
xShadowxPhoenix 6 months ago
@xShadowxPhoenix ??? they dint say anything about wigs .
darliiingz03 6 months ago
@darliiingz03 Even though they used her real hair in the movie, you see hatsumom wearing something on her head, that's what geisha use on their head to put on the wigs, plus if you look closely to the left of her mirror after scaring off chiyo you can see a wig on a stand
xShadowxPhoenix 6 months ago
Just because Hatsumomo had a hard life does not mean that gives her the right to be such a bitch. lots of geisha have had hard lives but you do not see them being so mean, hell some geisha have it worse than she does, they are improper geisha with poor okiya and no engagements, while Hatsumomo is beautiful and has many admirers and revenue. Chiyo had a hard life also but she was always nice.
FlapJack211 6 months ago 3
Hatsumomo is like an asian Keira Knightly
melmelmax 7 months ago 3
@melmelmax hell yeah
FearThisChannel 6 months ago
@melmelmax
Hotter, however.
vraimentmaladroite 6 months ago
I LOVE Hatsumomo :X
kabyluvnicole 7 months ago
...you're fingers smerr. :)
xoJennaloverxo 7 months ago
@HarajukuBarbieLov you forgot the word HAWT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lakers1221369 7 months ago
I really feel for Hatsumomo. Imagine spending your entire life training to be a Geisha, putting yourself through hell over and over again to be the best, and then realising you can't be the best anymore, just because some country girl who has never tasted the kind of pain you have has blue eyes. She didn't have to work to stand out, she just did.
bedheadsweetie 7 months ago 84
@bedheadsweetie
It's different if you read the book..
fuzzytangent 4 months ago
@bedheadsweetie yea but she was kind being a dick so karma had to step in....
frozenterror93 4 months ago
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@bedheadsweetie fucking life deal with it fuck shit avenue fucktarded muslim fucker
oliball123 2 months ago
@bedheadsweetie I love Hatsumomo even if she is a bitch
Sugarburs 1 month ago
@bedheadsweetie I guess it depends if you've read the book or not before this. I'm sure you might've read it by now, but Hatsumomo is no one you'd feel sorry for in the book. She's a horrible woman with nothing but herself in mind. I suppose the movie paints a slightly different picture.
isnessx3 1 month ago
@bedheadsweetie I don't feel for Hatsumomo. Her life was probably only as painful as Chiyo's - probably less, because Hatsomomo never had to work as a slave. In fact, Chiyo probably had a harder time than most geisha because she had to learn everything so fast. Chiyo didn't destroy Hatsumomo's chances; Hatsumomo did that herself, because she was too much of a bitch to ever attract a dana and become independent.
OneDarkAutumn 1 month ago 3
@OneDarkAutumn True that. Hastumomo has her own defect of character that makes her not quite as successful as Mameha. Mameha became independent and lives outside of an Okiya, Hastumomo lives in the Okiya because she isn't nice enough to keep a danna.
TheUsedAngel 2 weeks ago
is it me or is there some strange sexual tension between hatsumomo and the little girl...
DanielDownNdirty 7 months ago
@DanielDownNdirty its..just u. or maybe just not me ;)
escaramuzaml 7 months ago
In the book the real name is HatsuMono , but i preffer Hatsumomo
piiikj 7 months ago
@piiikj ehhh NO. it is hatsuMomo in the book you genius. i have it right in front of me and i am staring at it right now. MY book says hatsuMomo. dont know what you are looking at.
504AVP 7 months ago
@504AVP well , im latinoamerican , and well you know , and im not telling myself a genius , ehh i dont get why you say that , well , i tell you again in the spanish version ( cause im latinoamerican) her name its hatsumono , :3
piiikj 7 months ago
It bothers me how they called her Pumpkin before Chiyo came to the okiya. In the book, Chiyo came up with the name because of Pumpkin's plump face and how her tongue looked like a stem from sticking it out in concentration.
Drassielle 7 months ago
hatsumomo's jealouuuuuuuuuuuuuussssssss
LOL
07cool10pa 7 months ago
What would Pumpkins name be in japanese?
UnrealHel 7 months ago
@UnrealHel kabocha which is a cute nickname because it sounds like kabo chan that's just a twist with words but in japanese it sounds cute.
lukkha1 5 months ago
at 3:12 the both stared at each other they looked like the same
wolvesrain 7 months ago
Geisha are not like normal people.they must be elagant,smart,respectful,talented,and a virgin. they suffer to please men for money but without sex. like in the movie they create another kind of world a world of beauty.
sailoramber1985 8 months ago 2
that was at HAMMIEGRI425
Icefrost109 8 months ago
ummm this doesnt take place in china.... it takes place in japan
Icefrost109 8 months ago
Hatsumomo, so wicked, bitter and one hell of a bitch yet she's so beautiful and elegant, I can't help but like her as a character both in the book and film.
KokiriDoll 8 months ago
"We don't display our naked feet like monkeys."
Justdontaskmewhat 8 months ago 3
That maybe sounds weird, but Hatsumomo somehow reminds me of a female version of Severus Snape and Chiyo reminds me of a female version of Harry Potter. I mean look at this hateful gaze in 3:15, iisn't this actually Snape looking at Harry? Bedroom eyes...
Segelfalter 8 months ago
i love how the costume maker made the kimono modern looking and flashy yet still so elegant and tasteful!!! i wanted them all
ladyjosephinelover 8 months ago
@ladyjosephinelover i agree!
Athecubus 8 months ago
@ladyjosephinelover not a costume. its a real kimono that a real kimono maker made some of them are actually vintage in this movie. for the actors sake they dnt wear every single piece of the under laters of the kimono for comfort
SocaMusicLova 5 months ago
@SocaMusicLova layer
SocaMusicLova 5 months ago
@SocaMusicLova it's the most beautiful
ladyjosephinelover 5 months ago
Gong Li I love you lol and you are an excellent actress
omarish5 8 months ago
@omarish5 her first name is Li and her last name is Gong. in china, the traditional way to say or write a name is LAST NAME, FIRST NAME instead of FIRST NAME, LAST NAME
HAMMiEGRl425 8 months ago in playlist My Movies
@HAMMiEGRl425 who gives a shit......idiot
omarish5 8 months ago
@omarish5 sorry for being smart... asswhipe
HAMMiEGRl425 8 months ago
Hatsumomo is almost divine. She's so beautiful, even the way her hair falls over her face. Although she's damaged, her beauty is her power, I wish I could be like her!!
SaffyRocks 8 months ago
The only reason why Hatsumomo treated Chiyo poorly is because she saw her as a threat.
maz4ever1 8 months ago
hatsumomo is so beautiful yet wicked...shes so great in playing her role it was as if she was THE original character!!!she is beautifully terrible
mesuiGrl 9 months ago
Chiyo is so cute looking
sweetnsour43210 9 months ago
"we don't not sell skin" okay she never said that in the book one everything thier was all about proititues in the geisha world, geisha's are beautiful and have a stories but "we do not sell skin" was a whole bumch of bullshit
lovelyminu10113 9 months ago
@lovelyminu10113 no it isnt
JulietsMan 6 months ago
only asia would have classy prostitutes :]
GisselleGuillen 9 months ago
They didn't portray Hatsumomo as cruelly as she was in the book. In this movie she seems almost kind, but boy, she was a bit@@!
LadyLomea 9 months ago
@HarajukuBarbieLov yeah but shes still a bitch...
tonnhoohnnot 9 months ago 50
@tonnhoohnnot haha yeh and a major diva in real life too.
xharriii 9 months ago
Well girl listen open your ears nobody else has problems.
KRAZIHAKABOI 9 months ago
it's so difficult to understand them. I 've already got headache.
MrsHoneybeex3 9 months ago in playlist My Movies
hahaha "Hatsumomo you stink "
s7559 9 months ago
lol
"mmmm....squid"
XD
FMLdoodez 9 months ago
So..being a Geisha is in comparison to the American Burlesque? They aren't Prostitutes or strippers, but they entertain in a sensual way?
LucasHiltonVicious16 9 months ago 4
People, I'm well aware of the fact that Japan is a male-dominated society (so please, enough with the history lessons already)
Besides, it can be argued that most societies in the world are male-dominated (including the U.S.) To me, it's not about culture of society, it's about free will: about what people are and aren't capable of doing regardless of all that other stuff (Besides, I found a show about males entertaining females so my point has already been proven) ^_^
CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN 9 months ago
I love Hatsumomo, but she does have her slightly psychotic tendencies throughout the film, haha. I find it funny how 9:34 through 9:42 is somewhat of a touching moment between her and Chiyo and it's ruined by the end.
CountryBarbie777 10 months ago
Gong Li does not really speak English. She memorizes the English scene by scene. She does very well. Now that she lives in Singapore, maybe she is fluent now. She is very professional.
Beulah502 10 months ago
@onedarkautum i do 2 i wanna be a geshia
punkrockloveful 10 months ago
OMG, never heard such a bad speaking in an English film, the German synchronization is soooooo much better!!!
GaensebluemchenFan 10 months ago
geil
062244623 10 months ago
I want to go to geisha school. :\
OneDarkAutumn 10 months ago
Stuck up Broad!
godzangel01 10 months ago
Hatsumomo is pretty, but she's a BITCH
Seijakushii 11 months ago 4
Read the book...
GATAMONAE 11 months ago
I just finished watching this AMAZING show. . .Ouran High School Host Club, it totally proved that beautiful men can provide quality entertainment for the opposite sex ^_^ (BTW, thank you to however recommended the show to me, I know it was a while ago. . .)
CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN 11 months ago
wow the kimono look hard to wear ( 1:57 to 2:22 )
irisLOveVAnilla 11 months ago
she' gorgeouse
08babymonster 11 months ago
wow and here I thought I could get away from the drama..lol...looks like it's EVERYWHERE
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datiez 11 months ago
I love how in the beginning Pumpkin was always helping and taking care of Chiyo
missheidiknows 11 months ago
dat woman is a bitch. >:(
Lucariofan24680 11 months ago
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN They're called hosts, and they are very popular.
DirtyWhiteEye 1 year ago
Karl yune is hott. {hatsumomo's bf)
unknown1Beauty 1 year ago
that older girl the one that is the geisha is a bitch
thebeatles4740 1 year ago
i bet hatsumomos mean to chiyo cuz she thinks that shed be huge competition for her
20PINKluvr 1 year ago
Hatsumomo was scared of Chiyo for a reason. Not only she was beautiful with her rare blue-grey eyes, she was also gifted and graceful. If Chiyo becomes a successful geisha and Mother adopts her, she'll be thrown out. That's why Hatsumomo was doing all the mean things to her, she wanted to knock off the competition early. Whereas, she saw Pumpkin as no threat to her because she was slow and clumsy. Hatsumomo knew she would help secure her position.
ladyfire44 1 year ago 65
@ladyfire44 It wasn't clear to me why Pumpkin betrayed Chiyo. What was it that Chiyo took from Pumpkin?
dymchurch1 8 months ago
Sayuri was named Mother's adopted daughter and heir to the Nitta Okiya when it was learned how much money she would make. I'm sure she didn't mean to take that away from Pumpkin. However, Sayuri didn't have a choice since Hatsumomo was still determined to get rid of her. Over the course of the war, Pumpkin grew bitter and blamed Sayuri for her homeless status.
ladyfire44 8 months ago
@ladyfire44 Thank you! And so prompt. You could be Japanese yourself.
dymchurch1 8 months ago
I read the book first before I saw the movie.
ladyfire44 8 months ago
@dymchurch1 HI ......Pumpkin betrayed Chiyo because chiyo ending up getting adopted and inheritting the Okiya(the house) which was promised to Pumpkin apparently......
omarish5 8 months ago
@omarish5 thank you
dymchurch1 8 months ago
@dymchurch1 Sayuri had the upper hand because she began making more money further on. . in the book sayuri said that in the end she was in mothers favor because she had more revenue but that wouldn't stop hatsumomo in the long run and becoming adopted mother was her only way
SocaMusicLova 5 months ago
@ladyfire44
i agree it seems like she saw her as her as a early threat
and thats why she was so mean to her. And wanted to put fear
within early so when so she gets older she wouldn't dare disrespect her.
rhondadavisful 7 months ago
true, however Hatsumomo did overlook Mameha's eventual interest in Chiyo, which caused her to worry again.
ladyfire44 7 months ago
@ladyfire44 Wow! That is so true! I actually didn't notice that. Thanks for saying that! :D I can finally understand the whole story a bit better now! :) Arigatou gozaimasu~ ^^
XxXOtaku556 6 months ago
What does it mean when hatsumomo says if you promise to swear yourself to me?
XpeanutttX 1 year ago
@XpeanutttX Basically Hatsumomo want's Chiyo to do all of her dirty work so that Chyio will get the blame and not her (for instance how she made Chiyo destroy the kimono). Well that's how I see it.
ToastedRainDropsxx 1 year ago
@XpeanutttX it means do whatever i say
dollykins100 1 year ago
Hatsumomo knows where Satsu is and if Chiyo wants the information, then she'll do whatever she orders her to do. She wanted her to do her dirty work and get blamed for it so she won't have to worry about her later on. Auntie warned Chiyo not to trust Hatsumomo because she'll end up ruining her potential career as a geisha.
ladyfire44 7 months ago
Im always afriad hatsumomo is going to rape someone. seriously....
snakedemon11 1 year ago
"It is not flesh we are selling here
This is a Geisha House....
You listen, you learn"
That's a deep statement
RacqDom 1 year ago
Gongi Li is so gorgeous, and a great actress. I also think that Suzuka Ohgo is adorable in this.
Demario300 1 year ago
i want to be a geisha!
LoiseAriane 1 year ago
@LoiseAriane no, no you don't. While geishas are not prostitutes, and were very respectable, it was an extremely hard life to live. You had to entertain men non-stop, with hold any negative emotion. One mistake could ruin you and your reputation. While I admire them their courage, I would never want to be in their postition.
KoeHalifax 1 year ago
Hatsummomo is such a bitch, but you gotta love her!!!
goodgirl140 1 year ago
I dream to be a Geisha. -_-''
ElectriicHeartss 1 year ago
3:08- almost like Hatsumomo is looking in a mirror of souls.. like she sees who she was.
wolfheart310 1 year ago
@wolfheart310 I don't get that impression. I don't think Hatsumomo was ever like that, pure and innocent. I think she immediately sees how beautiful Chiyo is - or will become - and therefore feels threatened.
Rubystein 1 year ago
Geishas are like rich people in show-buisness...
they get to go to school, they get nice clothes, and they put on performances. They are well-respected people in society.
music0lover0audrey 1 year ago 3
the little chiyo looks
mch like the oldr 1
n i luv her accent ^.^
The0AsiAN0 1 year ago
3:08....that´s true acting. I literally see how Hatsumomos mind works behind her forehead :)
KiyuROCKS 1 year ago
I fully understand that the first geishas were male and that there are SOME male geishas, but I'm assuming that like with prostitutes, cheerleaders, and exotic dancers the women outnumber the men. . .
i just dont think it's fair but. . . .*shrugs*
CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN 1 year ago
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN True, but then look at the music industry. I'd say that's an extremely male saturated entertainment business. Yes there are women, but the amount of exposure and respect they receive pales in comparison. And, at least in the U.S., success is based mostly on looks and marketing instead of quality. Good looking men get whored out to the female fans as an image. Boy bands are a perfect example. There are so many "eye candy" professions that end up oddly gender specific.
Loveydvy99 1 year ago
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN Ah! Cirque de Soleil comes to mind too. Some acts feature nothing BUT sexy dudes performing awesome skills. Some actors have a hard time retaining their integrity too. It would suck to loose out on some good dramatic roles because you're typecast as a pretty boy. That's why DiCaprio went off the map for a while, and why Johnny Depp was very selective after 21 Jump Street. They didn't want to be stuck in hot-guy mode for the rest of forever.
Loveydvy99 1 year ago
Can someone tell me where I can find images of japanese cities like in 9:48? It's for a project in school and I'm having a really hard time looking for a photo that's close enough. I've tried tons of really good keywords but none of them seem to be working. Can someone help me please? Links would be really appreciated. Thanks so much!
NiqueJB 1 year ago
hatsumomo is 40? im gonna go on an all japanese food diet :)
alibugbug 1 year ago
@alibugbug Better grab some Japanese genetics while you're at it, otherwise you might be disappointed. ;)
Loveydvy99 1 year ago
@Loveydvy99 haha true, although the actress portraying her is actually chinese...
jojopoop2323 1 year ago
I'd fuck Hatsumomo, even if she is 40.
omgdan23 1 year ago 4
The word Geisha translates to artist.
I would suggest to any wanting more info about Geisha to read the book that this movie is based off of or Geisha a Life by Mineko Iwasaki. I would love to be pointed in the direction of more books about Geisha.
nesuada 1 year ago
@nesuada
Not a lot of books on Geishas but there is a 1983 Japanese movie called Yoriko (english title- The Geisha) starring .Kimiko Ikegami. Gritty and no where near as romantic as Memoirs but worth viewing. Netflix has it.
AQuietNight 1 year ago
@AQuietNight Thank you.
nesuada 1 year ago
ohh... i thot geishas were prostitutes lol either way theyre treated badley...
xiTzblazinx 1 year ago
the bitch envy her blue eyes
1000YearsOfDeathh 1 year ago
I don't think that there's anything wrong with being a geisha (for the most part) like someone else said, they aren't prostitutes. But just to be fair, they should have a male version of a geisha too: handsome looking men who learn various skills in order to entertain women. It shouldn't just be a one way street, you know? If it's possible for men to enjoy female company in a non-sexual way, then it's perfectly natural and possible for the roles to be reversed, right?
CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN 1 year ago 133
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN The first geisha's were male. The females just became more popular over time.
Sirena101 1 year ago
@Sirena101 LOL well, I think it's about time for males to become geisha's (or whatever the correct term may be) again. Like I said, it wouldn't be fair if it's just women putting in all the time and sacrifice to please men (and still trying to keep their own dignity and self worth through the whole ordeal) I definately think it's possible for a woman to appreciate a handsome/skilled man ^_^
CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN 1 year ago
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN i do agree with the equal opportunity idea but just to clarify the first geisha in history actually were men... i just dont know what happened to them. hahaha
dancerprancer522 1 year ago
@CxHxRxIxSxTxIxAxN there are men geshia in fact men were the first geshias
loulou799 1 year ago