Frank Zappa & Eddie Jobson - Black Napkins solos - 1976

[Satiaraha]

is in which of all Frank's live performances can find this? because i have The You Can't do that on stage Series and it's totally different. thank for the help.

[lennonzappa71]

I've noticed a lot of comments below about Zappa not being mentioned, or featured; when a documentary about the '60's comes on. And how come you never hear his music on "classic radio" stations? And when a film comes out that takes place in the '60's, you can bet your bottom dollar it will feature "White Rabbit", "All Along the Watchtower", and "Born to Be Wild" in the soundtrack-but never Zappa...or Quicksilver Messenger Service, Moby Grape, or Captain Beefheart, for that matter.

[ledivo59]

... oh Eddie! The violin-wizard! Grrrrrrrrrrreat!!!

[triplettam]

You know, when you talk about the greatest guitarists of all time, everyone mentions Jimi, Eddiie, Page, Stevie . . . but then someone says "Frank." And everyone goes: "Oh, yeah." I just don't understand why Frank is a sidenote. One of the best musicians--OF ANY KIND--ever.

[senna01]

@triplettam I guess people just don't take the time to listen to his stuff, cause he doesn't fit in with the others' soloing-philosophy style. He took a completely different approach, unappreciated by most of the "wow, what a sweet lick" kind of people.

[zappalaney]

hello from an about to be snowed in ,blizzardy tulsa , oklahoma , the offcial recording grounds of "hog heaven" 10-18-80 my first FZ show ever when i was a young 17..yeah i was there

anyway ...i hear ya man ,but i doubt this gray earth will EVER realize what a genius FZ was and still is to this day ..........it's sad to think of just how many humans may NEVER even hear an FZ song , let alone be able to appreciate all he gave to us

stay warm my friend and keep in touch ...........laney' :)

[giovannoniperry]

at last count i own 77 of francesco zappia's vinyls.Now if you like Eddie Jobson,you should check out what he did with UK!!!!!!What Frank achieved in his sadly shortened life couldn't be done.In my opinion,the most dedicated musician of all time bar none.Thankfully his music lives on thru his son not to mention Steve Vai, Mike Keneely & a handful of others.Great post!!!!!

[VonSchteffie]

This may be the best UK song that was never played by UK;o)

[roachrip]

sweet!!

[ysbnnews]

GOD SITS IN THE AUDIENCE WHEN FRANK PLAYS NOW...

[telaenabyday]

:( mhh

[pazzensutra]

I have an interview where Frank was asked about Eddie Jobson and Frank said, "Eddie had priorities in strange places.....I don't want to say anything bad about him...."

[0marylene]

When two geniuses meet ...

[triplettam]

Every musician who played with Frank came out a better musician. He was a tutor, a mentor and an absolute genius.

[ysbnnews]

CAN'TWAIT2CITAGAINBABEMAYWECHE­RRISIH4GOD...

[rherbert57]

I should have made the Jobson to Zappa connection a long time ago. The next little while, I'll be finding out all I can about them. Much more respect for both of them now.

[BARRIEMOREBARLOW]

Is there a video associated with this?

[rappidog]

Thanks for posting this. I saw Frank at Bingley Hall Stafford with

Eddie (and he wasn't kidding). It certainly brings back memories

[Gregorypeckory]

Eddie Jobson and Jean Luc Ponty are great, but it's too bad Frank never hooked up with Jerry Goodman-his ferocious attack and passionate virtuosity make the other rock/jazz violinists sound easy listening by comparison-much more suited to Frank's music-maybe Dweezil will hook up with him.

[triplettam]

@Gregorypeckory Wow. Ageed. Jerry was/is a genius. Do you have his Flock stuff? Amazing.

[loislombardo]

This vershin is beatiful. Gid a lot of people still dont what there missing.

[1kurtharison]

cool

[squanto2]

Jeeezis.

I miss Our Friend Frank.

[firstbooob]

CAN'T WAIT TO SEE AGAIN BABE...

[cebelina]

most excellent!!!!!!!

[triplettam]

I really miss Frank. I turn on "rock" radio these day and--except for a few bands like Tool--nobody is doing anything interesting. At least that the radio moguls allow us to hear. I'm really happy that Dweezil is doing his Zappa on Zappa. Frank can't die. He won't really be appreciared until 2025.

[SnackAttackMusic]

@triplettam yeah, zappa is a one of a kind and im rally happy i got to hear his music. zappa changed me and made me see music in a whole different way. im truly honored.

i can never like warner bros or al gore after what they did to zappa !

[loislombardo]

@triplettam Why 2025 i appreciate him now?

[triplettam]

@loislombardo Well, my friend, you are in a minority. His kind of music, as you know, wasn't just kind of good or catchy. It was brilliant. He was a classical composer. He wrote out all the parts for every instrument and came up with concepts that even I or my friends don't fully understand. I just picked 2025 because that's when I felt our obsession with drum machines and image and minimalism will end and somebody might just look back and see what great artist could have been overlooked. SC

[loislombardo]

@triplettam He wasent overlookd by me or some of my frends.Ive been into Frank since i was 14 im 50 now and i rareley listen to much anything else Slash can kiss my ass he sucks but thats my op.Frank did and does have millyins of fans we need to stick together.Talk to me

[triplettam]

@loislombardo Okay. The people who come here and seek out his music and comment are probably not who I'm talking about. but her's what I mean. Frank is hardly ever played on the radio. And when I go to friends houses who have his music, they generally don't play it because Frank's music command attention. Consequently, he's not part of the playlist of our collective minds. So, when discussions are had about the greatest bands of all time, his name rarely comes up. Go to 2nd part of reply below.

[triplettam]

@loislombardo Frank should always be near the top. I'll be honest with you. I'm guilty of it. All my records are in storage; I just have a couple CDs packed in a closet and Zappa plays Zappa. I was looking up UK and Eddie Jobson and this song was recommended. I had never heard it, but I remember thinking: " I always forget how damn good Frank was." I know not everybody overlooks him, certainly not you and I'm glad about that. But he belongs on jukeboxes and radios so that everyone can hear him.

[triplettam]

@loislombardo Okay, I sent you a response in 2 parts, but they are not in order. Start with the response that starts with "Okay." OK? Frank is just rolling his eyes.

[Mrcharliebobo]

@triplettam - Couldn't of been said better! *****

[dopeurwhatuuse]

@triplettam hey this is were we met,your a cool frend

[triplettam]

@dopeurwhatuuse Yep. And it's even better now.

[zappalaney]

@triplettam what happens in 2025 ?

[triplettam]

@zappalaney Just a bit of hyperbole there, friend. What I meant was that in 2025--or years in the future from when he recorded--society in general will catch up to his genius, like they did with, oh, Van Gogh or others. I mean he has a huge fan base, but except for them, he's never included in the conversation of the "greatest." But then I see what's on MTV these days and say: "Nah. We're just lucky to have gotten to know him at all." Slainte.

[estvan56]

@triplettam Good point about Zappa not being mentioned among the greats on radio. Ever notice when they talk about the 60's or do a Beatles special, Zappa's never mentioned. "Kill Ugly Radio".

[mirzamarco]

Wow, Lady Bianca plays on this, how rare! She only stayed with the band for a month as she felt uncomfortable singing some of Frank's highly sexual lyrics...!

[Biancarenee3]

How did you know that honey, I stayed more than a month with this band and I was not uncomfortable with the lyrics it was the actions I wasnt so sure about. Frank music was phenomal

[mirzamarco]

Hi Lady B., glad to hear the truth from you in person! Sorry if what I wrote was not entirely accurate, actually internet was my only source...

Happy Christmas!

[GDarkstar74]

FZ created the greatest rock music there ever was and ever will be. He and Steely Dan are the two greatest that rock music has to offer, and Zappa was light years ahead of The Dan in my opinion.

[timmo1782]

more than that, i think he went beyond rock....... pure transcendent music genius, way ahead of his time. don't think we'll see the like of him again anytime soon :(

[GDarkstar74]

I have always said the same. lol, My e-mail is FZappaTranscends. he absolutely does transcend rock music and we'll never hear it like that again. Frank was the greatest offspring that rock music has had to claim, but he still goes unknown and unheard because people hear 'Broken Hearts Are For Assholes' and think he's weird. Good lord Zappa forbid they'd give a listen to Civilization Phaze III.

[pazzensutra]

@timmo1782 You said it!

[GaryNull]

Steely Dan was more limited to rock/jazz.

Zappa was all over the place.

Both had a high level of quality and put more effort in to the music than most.

Those days are gone.

[GDarkstar74]

truth

[DavidKinner]

@GDarkstar74 Zappa yes, but Steely Dan?! Have you ever heard Robert Fripp, and all of his projects?! He is like the other Zappa with Zappa still on top, and much further progressing in music.

[worldcitizengrendel]

@DavidKinner

ZAPPA & FRIPP are the real KINGS. Steely Dan is not the same, though great. There are many others much better: HOLDSWORTH, METHENY, HOWE, HILLAGE, HACKETT, Bill NELSON...

INCREDIBLE violin solo by Eddie JOBSON, my fav. "Black Napkins" version, AMAZING.

[DavidKinner]

@worldcitizengrendel Definitely gotta agree with that one, Steely Dan doesn't even come close to the majority of the progressive bands from the 1970's. Peter Hammill is definitely another genius.

[fadethetrade]

something happened with zappa and jobson and frank didnt want to talk about it in an interview.

[SteveSparx]

Luv Zoot

[buschnic61]

E.J. - worlds best- But oh lord is F.Z. missed.

[GDarkstar74]

i've had this show for a while and it's one of my favorites of all the Zappa shows I have. Black Napkins, The Torture Never Stops, and Advance Romance are great. FZ rips it up this show, his solos are amazing.

So where's the rest??? Franks solo is the best part, and it gets sooooooo goooood.

[decemberkid12]

man this version make me spaced out....

[firstbooob]

PRECIOUS HISTORY...

[ledphloydgeuse]

This is a great moment from one of  the all time great shows. Thank you.

[takidigits13]

This is my favorite version of this song.

[cquerales]

Wow Jobson played for Tull , Zappa, UK, Roxy Music.. am I missing any band?

I also loved his solo work

[helicon07]

mp3 link? i wanna have this.

[DeathToStupidity]

Ummm.... hate to ask. But isn't "Eddie" looking a tad bit emasculated in the photo shown here from :30 to 3:30?? High heels, high-cut trousers, and what looks like rouge/blush on the cheekbone??? Did he go through some sort of cross-dressing phase?? Just asking....

[snottyps]

That photo is from the Jethro Tull "A" tour in 1981. Horrible outfits! Eddie is not a very tall guy. Consider the heels and rouge as stage make-up.

[firstbooob]

GODONLYGIVEN....

[firstbooob]

NO  OTHER...

[rivellinonumber9]

I,ve got 11 words for y'all, The Little House I Used To Live In Sugar Cane Harris

[astonishingCarpet]

I prefer Jean-Luc Ponty own work, then Zappas work comes second, and only third is Eddy Jobson Work.

But Eddy Jobson is starting something completely new with his UKZ band and my hit parade may change soon.

But that's just my own taste...

[stupidfukinshithead]

its a very nice.

[SathenMusic]

Eddie Jobson's Zinc Album is another classic, check that one out if you like his work on this, His work on the first UK Album is amazing as well.

[SteveSparx]

PINK!!!

[LoveMarriott]

Do you like to be Susana my friend ? haha

[gebass6]

The violin sounds like Jean Luc Ponty.Phaser and all.

[firstbooob]

A PERFORMANCE WHICH GOD REQUESTS...

[firstbooob]

A GOD ONLY GIVEN PERFORMANCE...

[4amsolo]

shame this ended just as Frank was getting started. Have you posted the rest of it? Is this version on a boot?

[timmo1782]

I just wanted to showcase the pink napkins section, not often you hear Frank solo in this style. This is all I have posted (so far?), and yep it's from an 'audience recording'.

[narozzz]

@timmo1782 - "It's not often you hear Frank solo in this style." Wow, you're not kidding. There's an almost Kind of Blue - type of feel to his playing here. It so quietly, introspectively emotive. Normally I'm one of those musically illiterate bastards who thinks the MOI records are his greatest achievements. Yet I could listen to "Aja" all day and night. Funny how that works......

[JFROXY]

Magnificent! This is from the Boston October 76 show. My fav version of my fav Zappa instrumental song. EJ is awesome...ex Roxy man of course ;)

[blown2000f150]

I saw him in 76' at the Music Hall in Boston. I can't remember who else was on the bill. It was an awesome show.

[susanascot]

If I were a man, I rather be FZ.

[diegoinportofino]

Susan, I want to marry you!

(Due respect paid to FZ)

[firstbooob]

SAY YES SUSAN...

[joopwolters123]

beautifull

[jasmincar]

who do you like the most: Jobson or Ponty?

[rappernamedhead]

I don't remember where I read that Ponty wanted writing credit for improvisations. I don't know the veracity of the story but that would be an extremely arrogant thing to do. Frank did so much for so many musicians on this planet.

[GreggaryPeccary]

I like both of them in Zappa, neither of them out of Zappa

[semtex2you]

greggary, you gregarious, wild swine, i concurr.

[GDarkstar74]

Same here.

[DogEBreath]

i don't care for neither one of them outside of Zappa, In fact I probably wouldn't get turned onto their great playing if it wasn't for Frank's huge virtuosic musical toolshed nucleus type thing he called a band

[pubmasterj]

There is a boot ouyt there with Frank and Eddie doing this little ditty. The album is "Titties and Beer...Zoot Allures in PARIS. I will try to get it up on the tube. It is an even better versionn than this.

[barackwhosSane]

no way, i been listening to this a lot lately, transcribing frank's parts

[phillipians]

Jobson kicks ass> I wish he was doing something, anything musically. Its like he dropped off the face of the earth.Most people dont know he was almost a member of Yes in the 90125 days. It never worked out. Seeing him and Rabin live together would have been amazing

[dgcmusi]

I think he was to talented for them. He would have put them over the top !

[dharr0]

He is now coming out with a new band - UKZ with former members of King Crimson, etc. Check it out - there is a video on YouTube under UKZ-Radiation and a tour starting in New York

[unviciouscircle]

Has to be my fav version of this ...saw this at Hammersmith ...this really is music at it's best for me, thank you for posting..

[youvebeenthunderstru]

I get the impression that Zappa loved to pick notes with his right hand more than other guitarists.

[ilovecommunism]

what cha mean?

[youvebeenthunderstru]

His playing is really fast in the sense that he plays faster with his right hand... *shrug*

[ilovecommunism]

It's the honker.

[jancivil]

Actually FZ was known to state quite the opposite, he liked to pick one note a lot and let the left hand speak

[youvebeenthunderstru]

Aye. True.

[jancivil]

At some point, I notice it most in 1988, FZ started into a style of picking a lot of notes. The one thing he does with his r. middle finger on bass strings, he'd been doing awhile, since 79 or 80.

the solo on Fifty:Fifty on Overnite, he went for picking all the notes, but it seemed anomalous at that juncture.

Compared to a Holdsworth, FZ maybe picks more, compared to McLaughlin, a whole lot less.

[NoelGrassy]

jancivil, w/ each of your examples I sometimes find myself wishing they'd all slow down so I could soak up the brilliant note choices and unmatched phrasing that goes by in a flurry. Those 3 men are the reason I won't be bringing an axe up to Hebbinz. Of course Chad & Vinnie will be spread a little thin but Chester, Tony & Billy will be "dialogging" so no complaints from me an' Jeebuz [who uses a capo like Iceman Collins].

Fuhreelz!

[LucaBrasisBrother]

Great!

[llawfhionn]

This is much more mellow and jazzy than the performances of subsequent years. I love the way Frank allowed each band to re-invent his tunes.

[aussie1312]

and the best Zappa is when the jazz is prominent

[llawfhionn]

I certainly love the delicate touches of this version!

[GDarkstar74]

well it gets to the point eventually. FZ rips a fucking phenomenal solo. I can't get enough of this one. unfortunately this person didn't post the rest of the solo.

[timmo1782]

'this person' wanted to highlight the pink napkins section, i might add the other bits soon.. :)

[HiitsmeMOA]

@timmo1782 please do add the other bits!! This is great stuff!!!

[triplettam]

@timmo1782 And thank you "this person,' I had never heard this and I'm a fan of both Frank and Eddie. Slainte. 

[triplettam]

@timmo1782 Please do. These are two of my favorite musicians.