Nothing has made me want to watch these films more -and I'm already fit to bursting from waiting for them. But seeing Stephen Fry promote the delicious character he's playing is like an old friend tapping me on the shoulder and promising me I'll love the ride.
@451harri because of the sickly-sweet, mawkish cheese-fest they made of LOTR.
I bet the hobbit will even have a 'love interest' crowbarred into it, simply because the movie industry demands that at least half the audience can expect to have their gonads tickled.
@GrunGrauWeiss They made a mawkish cheese-fest out of a fantasy book which was written in order to portray a struggle between a pure-hearted, innocent gang of steely-nerved good guys against a force which represented all the sins of the explicitly (and overwhelmingly) catholic good/bad dichotomy which made up the author's worldview? and it was so bad that the trilogy won 17 academy awards and is one of the most highly praised film sagas of all time? The horror!
@451harri llooooll point taken :) I'll admit I enjoyed the movies at the time, despite the departures from the storyline and the somewhat inconsistent pacing etc etc oh, and Enya ffs! I was a fan of braindead etc already and do firmly believe that jackson did it as well as it could be done.
But I watched them again recently and realised that, frankly, they're shite. Let me have my fun!
@GrunGrauWeiss fun? this is the internet, so accordingly I'm going to start hurling obscene accusations at you for having an opinion that differs from mine, if that's alright by you.
@IAmCaptainMarvel From what I remember the mayor is greedy and the town demand he resigns at one point. Also I think the mayor thinks Thorin is a threat to his power.
@IAmCaptainMarvel the master of Laketown is a corrupt douche, he is portrayed that way in the book, and by smelly that doesnt necessarilly mean that they are dishonorable, but they are a trading hub on a lake, there main source of trade is by boatmen who are smelly
"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision." --J.R.R. Tolkien
Can't wait for this film, I'm curious why they had to make the master of laketown more gross than he was described in the books, but I suppose that's a minor change compared to what Peter mashed the LoTR trilogy into.
@Dekuscrubby You are correct. But he's not intolerant of intolerance. He's intolerant of an entire religion, not just the parts he doesn't agree with. The man's an ignorant bigot. If you want to receive tolerance, you should be tolerant yourself, not "pick and choose" which group you're tolerant of. Take anything he says about Catholics, take out the word "Catholic", and replace it with anything else...Jew, Muslim, Gay, Black, and everyone would agree it's bigotry. He's a hypocrite.
@ranger5230 No, he is very specifically intolerant of the parts he doesn't agree with. What he says about Catholics is in opposition to the official stances of the Vatican. If he was a bigot he'd be going around insulting people for being Catholic and telling them what they believe is wrong, but he doesn't do that.
@ranger5230 (continued) He's in opposition to the Pope's ridiculously archaic stance on contraception which has caused insurmountable suffering in Catholic Africa, to the exclusion of homosexuals from participating in Catholicism and to the well-publicised inappropriate conduct by members of the clergy. These aspects of Catholicism promote intolerance and abuse, and arguing against them isn't bigotry.
@Dekuscrubby The fact that there is no reason to believe anything other than their god being a made up, fraudulent superstition is another reason to hate a cult that profits from those claims. And if you think raping four year olds is merely "inappropriate" I'd take a harder look at rape victims.
@Dekuscrubby Actually he does. He continually calls the whole Church "evil" in one broad stroke, narcissistically and ignorantly.The Catholic church, where I live, runs hundreds of orphanages, vast numbers of homeless shelters, schools, hospitals, nursing homes, adult education programs, social services. Who else around here is providing that? Sheltered English actors and poets? I don't think so. He doesn't see the big picture. He's a bigot.
@kwkky No, I don't know that. I live in Philly and work with the Society of St Vincent de Paul. Homeless shelters, feeding people, taking care of those that Mr. Fry would never associate with, most of them not even Catholic, because they impose no conditions on those that need help, and it's never reported on the news. So, I think it's pretty cruel, ignorant and arrogant to say something like that, based on bigotry, with no knowledge of what's really going on.
@ranger5230 Well, try learning about Africa, and the Catholic Church's use of 'charity' - dangling aid like a carrot before the faces of the needy - to impose its values and policies upon unfortunate people.
Secular charity is always the way to go, because it's charity for the sake of charity - not charity for the sake of burnishing the image of an organization whose real purpose is to protect paedophiles and fund palaces for elderly grotesques.
@ranger5230 actually good people the world over run homeless shelters, schools, nursing homes etc etc etc, wether catholic or not.
Tolerance as a virtue is worthless. Its the terms on which you dictate what you tolerate that means anything. Tolerating hatred doesnt make you a better person than one who wont tolerate it. Frys stance isnt at all hypocritical, its entirely justified by his views on what holds importance in life.
@ranger5230 So, he's intolerant of an entire religion. Catholicism is sort of responsible for most of the carnage and misery in the world, and has been for a couple of thousand years.
@annabelSPNlover Merely correcting your facts. The Roman Catholic Church hasn't been around for two thousand years. Also - most of the world's suffering? Exaggeration here I believe, and I hate the Catholic Church.
@ranger5230 J.R.R. Tolkien hated the idea of putting some real life religious method into fictional fantasy books. He hated C.S. Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia for that exact reason. The Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit, the Silmarillion and all Tolkien books based in his world of Middle-Earth are self-contained fantasy stories with no corrilation to the real world.
@11nytram11 I've read Tolkien's biographies and you're quite correct. He was strongly against allegory. He was extremely close to his friend CS Lewis. I wouldn't say he "hated" his friend's Narnia stories, but they surely weren't to his taste. Tolkien did clearly state that there is "applicability" in his stories to our world. However, Tolkien was a devout lifelong Roman Catholic, and he unquestionably would have despised Stephen Fry's intolerant, hate-filled rants against his religion.
@luclfersangel616 He doesn't hate Catholics...he hates Catholicism. A Catholic might say they don't hate homosexuals...they hate homosexuality. Same thing. If you want tolerance and acceptance, you have to give it as well. You can't have it all one way.
@ranger5230 You're linking 2 things that are all in all very different things. Religion is a choice, sexuality isn't. People of the same religion share many similar ideologies, people of the sexuality only share sexuality in common, no ideologies.
@luclfersangel616 You're right. All of you are right. Catholicism will be abolished immeditiately, and anyone found guilty of being a Catholic will be executed immediately, just like was done in the past in Europe and in the American Know-Nothing Party. All charities, orphanages, schools, homeless shelters will be shut down in the name of your new Tolerance. Thank you all.
@ranger5230 Doing a few good deeds right now cannot hide the centuries of suffering, bigotry and ignorance that the Catholic Church has been responsible for. They use to believe that slavery was perfectly fine.There argument has always been well we didn't know any better, no else did. As Stephen Fry eloquently said,"Then what are you for?!"
@ranger5230 Then again, considering you're mentioning that an oppressed group should tolerate and accept the oppressing group? I think it's very reasonable that the oppressed should expect more from the oppressors. Because when there aren't oppressors, then everyone will be equal.
@Nirarekdan Who's being oppressed? I don't see people being oppressed. I see a lot of intolerance on both sides, and victim mentalities. I'm neither Catholic nor gay so I'm neutral. You want to see real oppression, look to the Muslim world. You'll have a much more favorable attitude towards the Catholic church, which does vast good in social services in the communities and takes nothing but one-sided hatred and bad press from people like Mr. Fry.
@ranger5230 They only do that because they have to. Look at how the Catholics acted when they had power, and remember that they would have had no problem burning you alive before you think they are in any way better than any other nonsense.
@ranger5230 Definitely intolerant. An organization that promotes, and has promoted hatred and bigotry, and retards human intellectual progress doesn't deserve tolerance. And if you do believe I should tolerate the Catholic Church, I invite you to defend those who cover up the rape of children.
@tjones590 gloriously ironic that you'd say "retards human intellectual progress" in the comments section for a book written by a Christian, and in the vein of countless other Christian writers who have advanced western civilization to what it is today.
@benehan Not exactly. Tolkien was a smart man, no question about that. So was Aquinas, Louis, and Chesterton. Belief is stupid, encouraging people to focus on imaginary burning bushes and phony miracles.
@ranger5230 I'll believe that no one is being oppressed when the LGBTQ community (and racial minorities for that matter) no longer have to live in fear of being harassed, beaten, bullied, killed, or worse.
@ranger5230 I like what that you're standing up for catholicism but id say this isn't true. Fry has said he has a lot of respect for many religious people, in fact his heroes are religious: Evelyn Waugh, Oscar Wilde and so on. He directed a great film based on Waugh's "Vile Bodies" quite recently, and i don't think Waugh's catholicism would have irked him at all.
@ranger5230 No offence, but you're really annoying. Do stop preaching about Catholicism in the comment section of a video about an amazing actor's part in an amazing movie.
Nothing has made me want to watch these films more -and I'm already fit to bursting from waiting for them. But seeing Stephen Fry promote the delicious character he's playing is like an old friend tapping me on the shoulder and promising me I'll love the ride.
zoerickard 1 day ago
Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!! Fry's gonna be in The Hobbit?? FUCK YEAH!!! :D
EnigmaDrath 2 days ago
*Sigh* I have always dreamed of going to Wellington and touring the WETA workshops... That's DEFINITELY on the bucket list. :)
KelciaMarie1 2 days ago
Isn't he the master of Lake TOWN, not Lake Land??
Vanaathiel 1 week ago
I guess he corrected himself :)
Vanaathiel 1 week ago
no offense meant to Fry, but I have a horrible feeling this movie is going to be a fucking travesty.
GrunGrauWeiss 1 week ago
@GrunGrauWeiss What gives you that impression?
451harri 1 week ago
@451harri because of the sickly-sweet, mawkish cheese-fest they made of LOTR.
I bet the hobbit will even have a 'love interest' crowbarred into it, simply because the movie industry demands that at least half the audience can expect to have their gonads tickled.
Sorry to be so negative, I really hope I'm wrong.
GrunGrauWeiss 1 week ago
@GrunGrauWeiss They made a mawkish cheese-fest out of a fantasy book which was written in order to portray a struggle between a pure-hearted, innocent gang of steely-nerved good guys against a force which represented all the sins of the explicitly (and overwhelmingly) catholic good/bad dichotomy which made up the author's worldview? and it was so bad that the trilogy won 17 academy awards and is one of the most highly praised film sagas of all time? The horror!
451harri 1 week ago
@451harri llooooll point taken :) I'll admit I enjoyed the movies at the time, despite the departures from the storyline and the somewhat inconsistent pacing etc etc oh, and Enya ffs! I was a fan of braindead etc already and do firmly believe that jackson did it as well as it could be done.
But I watched them again recently and realised that, frankly, they're shite. Let me have my fun!
GrunGrauWeiss 1 week ago
@GrunGrauWeiss fun? this is the internet, so accordingly I'm going to start hurling obscene accusations at you for having an opinion that differs from mine, if that's alright by you.
451harri 1 week ago
@451harri you're right... this is serious business.
GrunGrauWeiss 1 week ago
@GrunGrauWeiss
Go read the hobbit for a start, and then look at peter jackson's history, doubt this is gonna be shit.
EshnehGaming 6 days ago
A MOUSTACHE??
plancknplant 1 week ago
O_O Moustache .... Moving on, I love how articulate and magical this man is. :-)
EllenRebecca3 1 week ago
Like the scene with Denethor II and the lame song?
Jdwest84 2 weeks ago
Was the moustache voor a Magnum P.I. remake?
fritspas 2 weeks ago
Here he looks like a genuine Melchett figure.
StraitKnopfler 2 weeks ago
"Stephen Fry: 'I ate testicles for The Hobbit'" not for the first time, ey Steve-o? You big mincing boffin!
mattymc90 2 weeks ago 5
I find this arousing.
sallyluv42 2 weeks ago
sportin' a mustache like a boss,
ayesoundmate 2 weeks ago
"Gore director of the highest quality and wit"
TheDarkPan 2 weeks ago
"Lakeland"? Blasphemy!
lordtufty 3 weeks ago
Blasphemy? No... THIS... IS... LAKETOWN!!!
Finalhellmaster 3 weeks ago 4
I thought Laketown and the Men of Dale were meant to be a race of simple, but honourable people?
IAmCaptainMarvel 3 weeks ago
@IAmCaptainMarvel From what I remember the mayor is greedy and the town demand he resigns at one point. Also I think the mayor thinks Thorin is a threat to his power.
borednerd74 1 week ago
@IAmCaptainMarvel the master of Laketown is a corrupt douche, he is portrayed that way in the book, and by smelly that doesnt necessarilly mean that they are dishonorable, but they are a trading hub on a lake, there main source of trade is by boatmen who are smelly
timenyart 1 week ago
@SwordPlay2 IMDB isn't the most trust worthy information source. He's still in it, garanteed.
MrJellyBabiez 3 weeks ago
Stephen Fry puts testicles in his mouth. Tell me something I don't already know.
Vaultboy101 3 weeks ago 3
I just checked imdb and the hobbit is no longer on his listing......there no connection in IMDB to the hobbit and stephen fry now.
SwordPlay2 3 weeks ago
Yeah he would eat testicles.
iLikeEvreyThing 3 weeks ago
If I could marry the entire Hobbit cast, I totally would. Fry is a legend... Can't wait for December.
annabelSPNlover 3 weeks ago
Did he say hes going back to FILM? Or to just hang out?
Nineteen1900Hundred 3 weeks ago
Man, he looks like a don with that moustache. He should definitely keep it. Or regrow it.
The political problems with Movember are a bit of a shame though.
gamerunknown 3 weeks ago
Stephen 's got a mustache, baaah!
mrcreative13 1 month ago 3
His in the hobbit, awesome
Ksixstring 1 month ago
"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision." --J.R.R. Tolkien
ranger5230 1 month ago
Can't wait for this film, I'm curious why they had to make the master of laketown more gross than he was described in the books, but I suppose that's a minor change compared to what Peter mashed the LoTR trilogy into.
AMpufnstuf 1 month ago
Where's Stephen Fry? All I see is a ridiculously lovely Fry-esque man in a moustache...
pppdwandcpfanno1 1 month ago
Hello moustache
Deathawaitsnoone 1 month ago
I would eat testicles to see the hobbit
fergie123able 1 month ago 2
They aren't dwarves Stephen, they're Hobbits! It's the name of the movie for christ's sake lol.
DeathBringer769 1 month ago
@DeathBringer769 mainly dwarves in the hobbit. Only one real hobbit in it tbh, but thats just the book the movie is based on :p
verybigears 1 month ago
@DeathBringer769 You clearly haven't read the book. Of the main characters, there is only one hobbit, Bilbo, over 10 dwarves and good ol' Gandalf.
luclfersangel616 1 month ago
really. There is a religious argument on this vid
jazzymiss34 1 month ago
@ranger5230 You can't call someone who is intolerant of intolerance a 'bigot'.
Dekuscrubby 1 month ago
@Dekuscrubby You are correct. But he's not intolerant of intolerance. He's intolerant of an entire religion, not just the parts he doesn't agree with. The man's an ignorant bigot. If you want to receive tolerance, you should be tolerant yourself, not "pick and choose" which group you're tolerant of. Take anything he says about Catholics, take out the word "Catholic", and replace it with anything else...Jew, Muslim, Gay, Black, and everyone would agree it's bigotry. He's a hypocrite.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 No, he is very specifically intolerant of the parts he doesn't agree with. What he says about Catholics is in opposition to the official stances of the Vatican. If he was a bigot he'd be going around insulting people for being Catholic and telling them what they believe is wrong, but he doesn't do that.
Dekuscrubby 1 month ago
@ranger5230 (continued) He's in opposition to the Pope's ridiculously archaic stance on contraception which has caused insurmountable suffering in Catholic Africa, to the exclusion of homosexuals from participating in Catholicism and to the well-publicised inappropriate conduct by members of the clergy. These aspects of Catholicism promote intolerance and abuse, and arguing against them isn't bigotry.
Dekuscrubby 1 month ago 75
@Dekuscrubby The fact that there is no reason to believe anything other than their god being a made up, fraudulent superstition is another reason to hate a cult that profits from those claims. And if you think raping four year olds is merely "inappropriate" I'd take a harder look at rape victims.
AMpufnstuf 1 month ago
@Dekuscrubby Actually he does. He continually calls the whole Church "evil" in one broad stroke, narcissistically and ignorantly.The Catholic church, where I live, runs hundreds of orphanages, vast numbers of homeless shelters, schools, hospitals, nursing homes, adult education programs, social services. Who else around here is providing that? Sheltered English actors and poets? I don't think so. He doesn't see the big picture. He's a bigot.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 You do know that the entire reason for the Church's so-called charity is PR and the ability to dictate policies to poor nations, right?
If the Catholic Church was really so concerned about the unfortunate, they should give all that money and aid without conditions.
You know, like atheists such as Bill Gates.
kwkky 1 month ago
@kwkky No, I don't know that. I live in Philly and work with the Society of St Vincent de Paul. Homeless shelters, feeding people, taking care of those that Mr. Fry would never associate with, most of them not even Catholic, because they impose no conditions on those that need help, and it's never reported on the news. So, I think it's pretty cruel, ignorant and arrogant to say something like that, based on bigotry, with no knowledge of what's really going on.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 Well, try learning about Africa, and the Catholic Church's use of 'charity' - dangling aid like a carrot before the faces of the needy - to impose its values and policies upon unfortunate people.
Secular charity is always the way to go, because it's charity for the sake of charity - not charity for the sake of burnishing the image of an organization whose real purpose is to protect paedophiles and fund palaces for elderly grotesques.
kwkky 1 month ago
@ranger5230 actually good people the world over run homeless shelters, schools, nursing homes etc etc etc, wether catholic or not.
Tolerance as a virtue is worthless. Its the terms on which you dictate what you tolerate that means anything. Tolerating hatred doesnt make you a better person than one who wont tolerate it. Frys stance isnt at all hypocritical, its entirely justified by his views on what holds importance in life.
boorman 1 month ago
@ranger5230 Do I really need to explain the difference?
Jew, Gay, Black - You have no choice.
Catholic, Muslim - Yup, you have a choice.
kwkky 1 month ago
@ranger5230 So, he's intolerant of an entire religion. Catholicism is sort of responsible for most of the carnage and misery in the world, and has been for a couple of thousand years.
annabelSPNlover 3 weeks ago
@annabelSPNlover Technically it can't be a 'couple' of thousand years, that would mean Catholicism began before Jesus died...
Kaos77Kisame 3 weeks ago
@Kaos77Kisame 'Couple' as in 2. Y'know, you see a couple of people, that means two people!!!! Oh. Dude. You totally ruined my POINT. O_O
annabelSPNlover 3 weeks ago
@annabelSPNlover Merely correcting your facts. The Roman Catholic Church hasn't been around for two thousand years. Also - most of the world's suffering? Exaggeration here I believe, and I hate the Catholic Church.
Kaos77Kisame 3 weeks ago
Must really irk Stephen Fry that he's making a movie written by a devout Catholic (Tolkien). Stephen Fry's obsessed with anti-Catholic bigotry.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 J.R.R. Tolkien hated the idea of putting some real life religious method into fictional fantasy books. He hated C.S. Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia for that exact reason. The Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit, the Silmarillion and all Tolkien books based in his world of Middle-Earth are self-contained fantasy stories with no corrilation to the real world.
11nytram11 1 month ago
@11nytram11 I've read Tolkien's biographies and you're quite correct. He was strongly against allegory. He was extremely close to his friend CS Lewis. I wouldn't say he "hated" his friend's Narnia stories, but they surely weren't to his taste. Tolkien did clearly state that there is "applicability" in his stories to our world. However, Tolkien was a devout lifelong Roman Catholic, and he unquestionably would have despised Stephen Fry's intolerant, hate-filled rants against his religion.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 Stephen Fry doesn't hate Catholics . . . he hates Catholicism.
luclfersangel616 1 month ago 107
@luclfersangel616 He doesn't hate Catholics...he hates Catholicism. A Catholic might say they don't hate homosexuals...they hate homosexuality. Same thing. If you want tolerance and acceptance, you have to give it as well. You can't have it all one way.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 You're linking 2 things that are all in all very different things. Religion is a choice, sexuality isn't. People of the same religion share many similar ideologies, people of the sexuality only share sexuality in common, no ideologies.
Try and find a better example next time.
luclfersangel616 1 month ago
@luclfersangel616 You're right. All of you are right. Catholicism will be abolished immeditiately, and anyone found guilty of being a Catholic will be executed immediately, just like was done in the past in Europe and in the American Know-Nothing Party. All charities, orphanages, schools, homeless shelters will be shut down in the name of your new Tolerance. Thank you all.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 Doing a few good deeds right now cannot hide the centuries of suffering, bigotry and ignorance that the Catholic Church has been responsible for. They use to believe that slavery was perfectly fine.There argument has always been well we didn't know any better, no else did. As Stephen Fry eloquently said,"Then what are you for?!"
Simpsonsfreak1134 1 month ago
@ranger5230 Then again, considering you're mentioning that an oppressed group should tolerate and accept the oppressing group? I think it's very reasonable that the oppressed should expect more from the oppressors. Because when there aren't oppressors, then everyone will be equal.
Nirarekdan 1 month ago
@Nirarekdan Who's being oppressed? I don't see people being oppressed. I see a lot of intolerance on both sides, and victim mentalities. I'm neither Catholic nor gay so I'm neutral. You want to see real oppression, look to the Muslim world. You'll have a much more favorable attitude towards the Catholic church, which does vast good in social services in the communities and takes nothing but one-sided hatred and bad press from people like Mr. Fry.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 They only do that because they have to. Look at how the Catholics acted when they had power, and remember that they would have had no problem burning you alive before you think they are in any way better than any other nonsense.
tjones590 1 month ago
@tjones590 Ah, more ignorance from the intolerant. Thank you, you prove my point.
ranger5230 1 month ago
@ranger5230 Definitely intolerant. An organization that promotes, and has promoted hatred and bigotry, and retards human intellectual progress doesn't deserve tolerance. And if you do believe I should tolerate the Catholic Church, I invite you to defend those who cover up the rape of children.
tjones590 1 month ago 2
@tjones590 gloriously ironic that you'd say "retards human intellectual progress" in the comments section for a book written by a Christian, and in the vein of countless other Christian writers who have advanced western civilization to what it is today.
benehan 4 weeks ago
@benehan Not exactly. Tolkien was a smart man, no question about that. So was Aquinas, Louis, and Chesterton. Belief is stupid, encouraging people to focus on imaginary burning bushes and phony miracles.
tjones590 4 weeks ago
@ranger5230 I'll believe that no one is being oppressed when the LGBTQ community (and racial minorities for that matter) no longer have to live in fear of being harassed, beaten, bullied, killed, or worse.
Nirarekdan 1 month ago
@ranger5230 I like what that you're standing up for catholicism but id say this isn't true. Fry has said he has a lot of respect for many religious people, in fact his heroes are religious: Evelyn Waugh, Oscar Wilde and so on. He directed a great film based on Waugh's "Vile Bodies" quite recently, and i don't think Waugh's catholicism would have irked him at all.
benehan 4 weeks ago
@ranger5230 No offence, but you're really annoying. Do stop preaching about Catholicism in the comment section of a video about an amazing actor's part in an amazing movie.
annabelSPNlover 3 weeks ago
Thanks for the info, go Fry, what a gentlemen.
RussMaxable 1 month ago
Lovin' Fry's 'tache!
miketheman321 2 months ago
Is Stephen getting fat again? :(
CullTheLivingFlower 2 months ago
:D
TheGFXUniverse 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
*insert gay joke to do with eating testicles*
Fry = Legend!
ElBurroSabeMasQueYo 2 months ago