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  • Some of you guys are taking this booth review way too seriously. Nutn was just kidding around. I don't think David was offended at all--he's just not quite as sarcastic as some. I doubt he lost any sleep over it.

  • I really like the pen. All titanium :drool:

  • Go 4sevens

    

  • SALE is so handsome! so cute!

  • At work I throw all the pen caps out. Pen budget dropped 80% in a year.

  • data point : beards can hide double chins and yes, I know from experience. nice beard PFI dude.

  • not liking david chow's attitude in this interview. does he realize how many preons and other flashlights nutnfancy sold for him? He better have been taking nutnfancy's product suggestions seriously and not been brushing him off.

  • When is the new line with the rebranding coming out?

  • David should hire a spokes person to speak for him. Honestly he's no steve jobs.

  • @tbone1993ut Maybe if he was on stage, but this is intimate so I don't really think it's an issue with the products at hand.

  • @Wilson1592 If you watch the press conference that he did at shot show 2012. Which is available from going prepared you will see what i mean.

  • Thanks for bringing this to us Nutn.

    BUT, you interrupted David SO much man. It got so annoying to the point where felt the irritation that David was feeling.

  • See some new EDC gear coming. Great review!

  • If you add up all those small fortunes, then it wouldn't seem like they'd have any money left for R&D and innovative designs, which is what I thought made this company popular to begin with? The best way to maintain an image is with awesome products. Shiny pictures and fancy logos are nice, but me thinks this guy went a bit overboard.

  • FOURSEVENS

  • Thanks for the video, I was keen to see it and do appreciate it. I would have enjoyed it more if you listened more and did less interrupting and talking over the top of David while he was trying to speak.

  • Now that's a slick catalogue, I wish more catalogues would print things in 1:1 scale (where possible).

  • you guys are great but alittle slow on getting the new four sevens logo, just saying 

  • Some people are very straight laced and dont get humor, sarcasm etc just how they are built, no need to be rude.

  • Just get on deal extreme, its hit and miss but some of their lights are pretty damn good.

  • Coming soon....More flashlight reviews!!!!! SWEET!! :)

  • My preon 2 was always turning on in my pocket so i removed the hard cap clicker and now its great what they have to do it put a stiffer spring in the clicker

  • Great booth review a bit of ball busting but expected. Review the whistles please looking for a small near indrestructible whistle for my bob.

  • Ahhh I finally was able to order a Quark off of PFI a few days ago, and my Pops is trying to lift it off me!!!

  • i thought the jokes were pretty funny, i dident get all that much info but i already know foursevens is good, but david took it look a champ!

  • David is.cool.

  • Nutn, thanks for bringing up the point about the Preon turning on the pocket. I am always checking to see if its on almost anywhere I carry it. Maybe just a replacement recessed button could be maybe available for all of us. I would pay a few bucks to get a better switch.

  • I think this review would have been better if Jimmy would have been the host. Has a more interesting peronality and seemed just as knowagable.

  • pfi dudes look when he says you can almost taste it , is priceless.

  • Way cool booth review. I am looking forward to seeing some more reviews on Four Sevens.

  • This guy is a genius and makes great products, but he really needs to let someone else assist with the booth. If he doesnt seem excited about his products, why should i be?

  • what was on the 2:00 minutes you edited?

  • David needs to make a scout light or SF E series size light that has a single 200 lumen throw (so no high lo, multi mode) for us folks wanted one for weapon. I'll probably buy at least 4 for weapon mount use.

  • For the first time I couldn't take the incessant ball busting. I had to turn it off.

  • @tripeee58 then you should go and spend 10 hours working your butt off, doing these reviews is hard work, and it's for free! like I said in another comment, they do it for free and because it's fun. if you hire them and pay them..it's a different story.

  • Watching it again.

  • you guys gave david chow so much hell through that, lol

  • @southpawdude he held his own tho, but did seem worried at times, good sport is all I can say. Go David!

  • Wish you talked about David Chow's M3.

  • I hope the "Click" lineup is somewhat like this: Cree xm-l U3, forward click tail, two modes

    cr123 x3: 500/50 lumens $50

    cr123 x2: 400/40 lumens $45

    cr123 x1: 300/30 lumens $40

    AA x2: 300/30 lumens $45

    AA x2: 200/20 lumens $35

    The Jetbeam BA-series needs bettering

  • @sharpanator ok just read details sorry for my mistake

  • @sharpanator what that got to do with anything the preon 2 all are titan go on website im talking about preon 2 satin titan $65 and the preon 2 stealth black R5 $45 and the preon 2 black version R5 $45 why price difference?

  • I actually enjoyed hearing a little bit about the branding redesign.

  • why is there a $10 price difference between preon 2 satin titanium and colored versions? anything else different or just color?

  • I wish they made the preon 1 push button tail cap

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  • i carry 3 space pens with me everyday.

  • The whistles are amazing, I carry it on my keys every day.

  • Great job

  • man the first ten minutes were such a snoozer. looks like this guy swallowed some marketing consultant's BS hook line and sinnker.

  • meh people are crapping about lack of products, but theres only so many different products that you can make. nutnfancy might want more products (i do too) but no-one knows what to make. if he designed a dozen or so new revolutionary class leading lights for 2012, im sure 4sevens would be happy to build a few. . .

  • You asked about "green packaging"? Give me a fuckin' break with that hippie shit...

  • @austinguy23 die you greedy capitalist pig! :D

  • Flashlight Mount on Amazon $10.00

  • hey nutnfancy, you'd learn a whole lot more if you'd just STFU and listen to what David was trying to tell you. i always thought your firearm reviews were long-winded and tuff to listen too, but you out-did yourself here. it's a shame that David had to put up with your sorry a** for a half and hour or so.

  • @thisisnascar i sadly have to agree with you. less jokes and more letting the guy talk. would be wonderful.

  • @smcombs100 personally I love the jokes, nearly died when Nutn said the camera was off :) and remember, they do it cause they love it, it's fun for them, the minute it stops being fun and becomes a chore they'll just quit, they get no money for this, it's just a service to you and me. And for that thank you Nutn! ...and poor David, he was a good sport tho, and love those lights LOL

  • @thisisnascar While TNP respects the opinions of its viewers, it should not tolerate comments such as yours. Instead of your rude and elitist comment, you could have said, "Hey Nutnfancy, I don't intend to be rude, but I believe that your viewers would obtain better information from this video if you let David explain what he was saying before you commented on it. Just a bit of constructive criticism. Thanks!" What's so hard about being polite? Your honesty is not affected. - TNPr

  • As far as I know, the Mini line is unregulated, meaning less runtime ...

    Got to go with a bigger light for regulated.

  • @QuiksiIver the mini line is regulated. if it has multi-mode it'll be regulated. my mini 123 does 200 lumens for 1 hr solid, if thats unregulated then regulation appears to have no affect on runtime, as a 6px does 200 lumens for 2 hours and has 2 cells

  • @jimmyhoffa9 You're probably right.

    I usually look to see if the light driver can handle more/less volts. I don't think the Mini line can handle rechargeable batteries due to higher voltage. Thats what I mean by unregulated ...

    For instance, some of the smaller AAA lights can only support alkaline due to lithium being higher voltage. What typically happens on higher voltage is it burns brighter and burns out faster ... a regulated light goes for longer on lithiums at same bright.

  • @QuiksiIver depends if its voltage or current regulated. current is better, but it does mean lithiums are brighter.

  • FourSevens is anything but minimalist ... About 40 modes per light ...

    A minimalist light is single-mode or at most double.

  • @QuiksiIver That is what the new "Click" models are for.

  • Are the 47 alot brighter than streamlight I never seen anyone with a a 47 help me out guys

  • @Glocklockedloaded depends on they specific led, but yes much brighter. their website tells you exactly how bright.

  • can't wait til the peron 0 comes out.

  • strangest company revamp in the world. by farrrrrrrrrrrrr. you spent apparently a fortune revamping the logo etc. all the crap that makes the product look good.... but you made a pen... the flashlight company.... made a pen.... ummmmmmm

    I dont really know the company but come on! i want better flashlight then your competitor not a better catalog!

  • Leave the light experts to designs lights and let them talk about them...PLEASE!!!

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  • I love the talk about how they rebranded the company. Very insightful.

    Beautiful branding!

  • Poor PFI he looks soooo tired :(

  • Great review nutn, top quality as always. ( wouldn't expect anything less from you at this point). Foursevens is really the alph male of the flashlight world, and "David Chow= Babe Ruth+Muhammad Ali+Michael Jordan all balled into one dude." Currently waiting on my Quark 123 squared tactical I just ordered yesterday, "can you say excited!" Keep up the great work TNP crew, Watch your 6 fellow TNPers, -Sheepdog/Army MP-

  • somebody watched the your bussiness card is crap video to many times :) but a great company non the less

  • AAAAH!!! I CAN TASTE IT!!! I CAN TASTE THE LIGHT!!!!

  • Here we go again...new catalog and it's NOT ON THEIR WEBSITE. WTF?

  • I finally got a 123 TurboX, great light. The only digs I have are that the clip is useless with the Turbo head and it cannot tail stand.

  • deer hunters probably love that big light...hahaha, just kidding. Excellent review... I love 4Sevens (introduced to me by Mr NutNFancy, of course).

  • I bet he was like aww shit him again.

  • the top looks like the the van halen album

  • Preon P0 is an interesting little light; I might pick one up.

    I like the sleek catalog; that looks cool.

    Renaming their products is annoying.

    New logo is poorly designed; would not have associated it with the 4Sevens company or its products until someone had explained the logo to me. That = Fail for a marketing logo.

  • @classof77 I kinda agree its interesting but someone shouldn't have to explain the logo to customers.

  • Just a heads up guys! If you are wearing your headphones, take them off before David starts blowing the titanium whistles xD

  • Sorry but the dude giving the 4sevens review just didn't get it. You can really tell whens guy knows his product but this guy just didn't have the flow or missed the nutnfancy sense of humor.

  • Oh and "Paper mate?" 13:25 Well played Nutn.

  • If you don't like listening to Nutn talk don't watch the vids. No one cares about your negative comments. We aren't forcing you to watch.

  • I love 4sevens, but a little sad that there is not a bunch of new lights

  • Love when you do a 4Seven review. I can't help but to buy another light now. haha

  • @chuckv5150 Chuck, Nutn says he did talk too much in this interview but lemme just add here that I would suggest that you yourself just try to do ONE VIDEO of you talking/interviewing a tradesman and post it on your channel. Its a lot harder than Nutn makes it look...but you wouldn't know that. -- Veri

  • @nutnfancy I'd usually side with Nutn miss Veri but prior to reading that comment I was thinking to myself that Nutn interrupted David about a dozen times. X3

    Oh well i'm sure Nutn's running on low sleep getting all this great footage for us.

  • @ViolentKisses87 Nutn agrees with you and its all well and good. =) But you know me, if someone calls Nutn a "dope", a "lamer", an "idiot", "dumb", "like a fifth grader" or anything else that is insulting and rude...they have to go through me and I will probably take their juvenile comments down.. -- Veri

  • @nutnfancy Veri you should think about becoming a middle school teacher as well X3.

    Slap some decency into Americas youth :D lol

  • @nutnfancy Really? You took my comment down? That seems a bit unfair. I think it should be left there WITH all the thumbs up. This lets everyone else know that Nutn has been notified. And no, I wouldn't know about posting videos. That's not what I do. I simply watch them and recognize rude behavior when I see it. If you guys can't take constructive critisism then that's too bad. It would make for a better TNP.

  • I want the peron 0. wow nice little key chain light but I don't see it on there site?

  • Awesome job NutNFancy, I look forward to the FourSevens Shot Show Booth review every year. Thanks for recording for us.

    Take Care,

    Londian.

  • @chuckv5150 no disrespect to Nutnfancy pfi dude or tacticaldoodle but this video blatantly seemed like they were primarily taking the piss out of David chow. there's many occasions where hes trying to speak and someone either pulls a stupid face makes a stupid comment or starts talking over David total disrespect to mr chow he has patience keeps his cool and just gets on with it. Again no disrespect to nutn his son or his friend but this video just seemed like they were taking the piss.

  • @Nutnfancy Dont worry, theyll make a special edition titanium P0 just for you. Lightweight and strength! Lol. Also, with the mini 123^2...why not just use a Quark 123? I guess the mini would be slightly narrower, but not much shorter. A longer runtime from two batteries and a twistie would be kind cool though. Id buy one haha. Foursevens, please make a titanium mini 123 with the neutral white led. Love mine, just wish it was neutral white like my neutral mini I got.

  • "i got lost! there was a piece of tinfoil over there..." i chuckled. thanks doodle.

  • Love Foursevens. Always will support them. "Do you taste it?" "I do, when I don't have anywhere else to put it..."LOLOLOLOL

  • Thanks for sharing!

  • So where can u get their lights besides the net? I've never seen them in stores.

  • Anyone else notice the hand-grip thinger in the poster?

  • Whats talked about at SHOT is not the end all end all. 2012 can still bring us plenty of goodies. Remember 4sevens still strives to be ahead of the game, and Im sure we will see new led choices as well as them refining current products throughout 2012.

  • @drkknight614 Great comment and agreed. They have some cutting edge designs that are the envy of the rest of the industry. More to follow!

  • HAROOOOOO FORSHEVEN FRASHRIGHT MADE IN CHINA!

  • Great job david I really like the new logo stuff. Nutn really needs to listen more I kinda feel bad for David he was very professional.

  • Love foursevens lights, but its really disapointing they decided to focus/invest in branding over the past year, rather than develop new lights for us to buy. New product of one little key chain light, whistles and a pen. Now I have to shop elsewhere for my flashight fix. Oh well...

  • Why don't they design more of the tiny lights to clip to the bill of you baseball cap. I noticed my AAA lights have pocket clips that are not reversible and are mounted light down. If they would design them to be "light up" (or reversible like knife clips) I could use them on my cap for hands free use.

  • The S18 looks like a Fleshlight... eheheheh

  • Always make it have better light output...

  • meh, people complain at their lack of new products, but there is only so much you can feasibly design that is different.

  • I will buy the P.0. as soonas I can find it.

  • A branding consultant who tells you to throw away your accumulated good will and brand recognition is doing the opposite of their job. Qwikster style fail.

  • Great video. If someone had told me a couple of years ago that I would sit through a 30 minute flashlight review I would have thought they were on drugs.

    I want that 400 lumen $85 light.

  • @Tedkennedysswimcoach Right on the money with that!

  • EXPENSIVE flashlights and pens. And...um...whistles? Ooookay...

  • with the pen "under the microscope you can see the microscopic cuts" OMG really!!!

  • "so what's new for 2012 with 4sevens?"

    "we changed our logo"

  • @chuckv5150

    Good point!!

  • @rzezniqq It's just so annoying. I know I'm gonna get some TNP'rs hating on me but I don't care. I think most people agree with me. I'm a dedicated TNP'r as I'm sure you are. It's just disrespectful when he does this and he does it ALL the time. Maybe he'll read this and get the message.

  • Sweet mate keep it coming

  • Branding discussion ...........snore.....

    Come on David, myself and other CPFers want more product innovation and could care less about the branding.

  • cant wait gonna save up to get a 47 light.

  • Nut'n, you gotta stop talking over people! Just sayin.

    Love your vids.

    Proceed, sir.

  • super cool stuff. foursevens please dont hike prices based on "new branding" i could care less what is laser engraved on the side i just want a good inexpensive light

  • These lights are pieces of art, not tools. Confused about their company quality vs. sales.

    Weird.

  • love this video hope to check in to the pen. thanks nutnfancy and crew

  • I don't lend my pens out nearly as often as I use them myself. So now, 98% of the time I have to find somewhere to put the cap while I'm using it. Thumbs down. I also don't like pens with caps. Too much effort to use.

  • excellent both review. Really like the p0 for an EDC, debating on getting the pen as we speak... Thanks!

  • The only slightly exciting (new) thing here is the P0 key-chain light. I'm not sure how excited I am about having a strong magnet in my pocket, though. I understand the potential uses for a magnet, but I wish they offered a magnet-free version.

  • @curdit9 with enough heat you can permanently neutralize a magnet, so if it is really a problem for you, just heat that sucker until it glows (or whatever temp a neo magnet needs to be permanently neutralized). Or you could try to remove it.

  • Love me some foursevens

  • loving the booth reviews, did you ever get back to that TNP'er who was trying to say hi during the review? i thought i heard him laughing later on in the video...

  • Absolutely love FourSevens. I own many of their lights including the Turbo X. I think you may find a few things to dislike about that light however as I know I did (useless pocket clip being one of them). Great video very entertaining!

  • love foursevens review is 29 minutes to long. 

  • This is by far the most cost efficient flashlight company out there. Pretty funny review!

  • First of all, I love FourSevens.....my EDC light is a mini123.....but feel a little let down after the booth review.  Doesn't look like they really have anything new, other than a keychain light....a $200 pen...and a $2500 mega LED. Hopefully 2012 will be full of more useful products. Again..I love FourSevens....cool new branding...great products..I'll continue to buy their stuff....just looking for more innovation in the future. Thanks for the review, Nutn!

  • Solarforce L2P SE with HAIII, XML LMH drop in, 18650 with 3000mah works great for me. But thats just my 2c.

  • I'm a Preon 2 owner, and oh lordy would I like a flush button tailcap.

  • i got a 4seven flashlight for carry and a fenix for a weapon light on my S&W M&P AR-15

  • hahahahhahahhahaa

  • Nutnfancy, I have a turbo x, it kicks ass. If you get one, you will love it. Also when David pointed out how the logo makes the 4 and 7 my mind was blown! That is a sweet new logo.

  • Great review!

  • Loved the review. This is the only company I buy lights from.

  • you know i'm glad to hear that your concerned about Packaging Nutnfancy! Because although i'm totally a GTF'r (gun toting freak) haha I still get worried about all the damn plastic and garbage that we make and then spread everywhere!! EVERYTIME I go out and shoot in the desert I see human impact and it's usually plastic garbage! Tons of plastic and packages and I hate it! It ruins the outdoor experience and it only gets worse it seems! and I can only pick up so much! So thanks for speaking up!!

  • Props to whoever designed that logo

  • Love PFI's sneaky humour. 'Do you taste it?', 'I do, when I don't have anywhere else to put the light' - Hilarious!!!!!

  • @NOTuNOTme The look on his face when nutn panned over to him was the best

  • Come on, David. We need a Foursevens give away.

  • @nutnfancy Also, i'm a long time tnp subscriber and a big fan lol.old account was lost. Tried to find you at shot but that show is massive and I was starting to get delusional after miles of walking! Quick thing I noticed.. Every light booth claimed to have the brightest single aaa light and most were junk lol! Maybe I'll get to see ya at another show!

  • Dave is great, what a good sport. I like how he always seems annoyed but is trying to seem like he isn't- hilarious, especially when you're busting on him.

    The guy is a flashlight genius though, and I want one of the whistles too.

    Thanks for all of the SHOT reviews Nutn.

  • Jim is a great guy. I see him everytime I go to our local gun shows here in the Tucson area. He always has a greeting smile, well informed, excellent prices and someone that will ask the right questions before your buy with your hard eanned dollars. Thanks for giving him kudos Ntn!

  • I think David did well. What people need to keep in mind here is that shot show is not for the general public(end user). The re-branding of a company is very common in the retail world and often necessary for growing brands such as four-sevens. I've worked in retail my whole life, and guess what. New customers are generally attracted to a quality presentation. This company has proven itself as a quality brand that is driven by customers. There is nothing wrong with getting you're name out there

  • great ball bustin, best product at the 47s booth is the fenix headband!

  • TNP Does need a XM-18. PFI was on to it. Great area light for the night time run n guns! Also, AWESOME t-shirts!

  • David doesn't look to happy to be doing the review.lol

  • You guys were breaking David's balls so bad. He's never gonna let you do another interview. HAHA loved it though. So funny.

  • I have a quark 123x2 tactical and reversed the pocket clip and put it on the bill of my cap for a head lamp. You can not do this with a fenix pd30. The body needs to be a little longer so I can use a 17670 in it. I have a quark 123x2 tubo x and the17670 will work in it. I have bought these lights becuse of Nutnfancy reviews showing durability and versatily.

  • "I forgot how to read!" LMAO

  • Ordering Preon 2 now...

  • the booth review was quiet because everyone ran when he broke out the x18

  • Just makin fun of the guy the whole time during the pen..lmao

  • I disagree with "changing" the names...

  • Wasn't really a fan of this guy. Why are you spending half the video talking about your new logo? I saw it on the center of the table.... oh wow they have a new logo. Cool. Enough said. The guy to his right JIMMY should have done it. He was cool. Cool products but be product and customer centered not marketing and more corporate style. Sorry to be negative but they are better than that. Customers go to good products. They don't need to do that. Thanks Nutn. Love how you kept it real and laughed!

  • @runngunr21 David is a great guy. He's actively on candlepowerforums answering questions and giving out info on new products as the info becomes available. The only real reason the lights weren't touched on much is because most of them have full reviews already and all have been discussed in the 2011 SHOT vid that weren't shown in this one.

  • Seemed like chow just wanted to let us know that they spent a lot of money on branding and less on quality product. We get it, you rebranded but talk about the new lights or what is planned for future

  • Lol @ that gun mount, in the 2011 video it was actually ON THE LIGHT and right in his face the whole time :P

  • I'm sorry I like 4 sevens and I have some 4 sevens lights but I don't care about the branding or how they market it I just want the lights to be good solid pieces of equipment

  • lol---group'eeeeeat 12:30