The Doctor Now Show :: Vertical Farms ::

[Noxictyz]

I must say, well chosen word and very pedagogic!

[maddmuppetonacid]

Interesting, radical theory; it is possible to do this, i would of thought with a more radical designed building. Possibly hollow, courtyards etc. Unfortunately the world is run by satanists, so it's not going to happen until, were rid of these "leaders".

[kanoabiondolillo]

why does the obvious seem so far away?!

[pianomist]

Referring to the overpopulation topic, we can address this issue. We just have to drop our cultural indoctrinations. Not all of us have to have children... and with the rate we're going... it is highly recommended that we don't. It takes education/environment to break the indoctrination of this mind set of having a spouse, some kids, white picket fence... etc. And, I'd say that most children aren't planned anyway. It's human behavior we have to address, in this way. I could go on but, ran out...

[sliplocke]

Using the logic here, if 20,000 people die a day, 365 days in a year, 7,500,000 people would be saved if we feed them. So, where in this plan does overpopulation come into play? If you haven't been paying attention, human population is only increasing, with an extra 7,500,000 well fed individuals a year, are you going to tell them that they should procreate? This train of thought is for those with a messiah complex. Funny, b/c the movement goes out of it's way to denounce religious mindsets.

[DoctorNowShow]

@sliplocke

This is a great point. Overpopulation could become a serious issue.

The amount of room we have on our planet is a finite resource. Of course there is always on the ocean, under the ocean and in space... But I agree that procreation is an important issue that needs to be addressed intelligently.

[blaziermissy]

@sliplocke You're thinking in terms of our present day economic system. With a RBE access to a very high educ where it would be common place to educ ALL, & actually learn our relationship to the planet mindless reproduction would decrease. Also, profit aside, no use for duplicated businesses and such, more space is available, and tech to build cities in the sea and desert will also be a possibillity.

Our system today promotes "growth" A RBE which promotes "sustainability."

[sliplocke]

@blaziermissy I just don't think the 'problems' with today are solely to blame on our current economic system as much as they are about agriculture. The population has been 'booming' for thousands of years now and it isn't b/c we weren't educated, it was because agriculture allowed us freedoms with little restraint. Education teaches restraint but our base instincts are to eat/sleep/pro-create, if you try to 'control' those functions humans become less than compliant.

[blaziermissy]

@sliplocke Make it a point to understand how our economic system by design creates the behavior....creating the majority of problems. Our educ props up traditional power...

We can't blame it on our basic instincts and primacy..

[sliplocke]

@blaziermissy I understand our economic system, I understand many economic structures. What you are saying is the majority of problems stem from these failed structures and I can agree with you that many of our problems stem from them indeed. However, if you truly wish to fix a problem you don't look at the symptoms and treat them, you tackle the source, the original pathogen here is agriculture.

[sliplocke]

I'd compare the Venus Project to the current pharmaceutical industry or even how Cancer treatment is 'progressing.' Simply looking at society and picking and choosing what to treat and diagnose and what to throw away without actually killing the Cancer. It isn't a new idea, it is just a rearrangement of the old idea. You seek evolution through technology when it exists in the natural world. Change is the only constant and sustainability goes against everything that is natural.

[Vexblackheart]

@sliplocke

"Change is the only constant and sustainability goes against everything that is natural. "

There is no Utopia or Perfect.

Entropy *IS* a natural phenomenon. But that doesn't mean we can't repair as we go.

[blaziermissy]

@sliplocke It's not a matter of "controling" human beings, it's a matter of understanding that our culture values have to change for sustainabillity. Our economic system is not sustainable either....resources grabbing to keep the economic system going is insane..

[IntuitiveLeap]

@sliplocke I'd suggest including a short lesson in class, near this one, focusing on 'the exponential function' or 7% growth per annum. Perhaps if young humans learned the effects of the exponential function on population growth, among other things, the problem would be lessened merely by that education.

[kikokazuma]

@sliplocke If most people were properly educated on the problems with overpopulation they may stop wanting to have children for the hell of it. Most people today do not know why they choose to have children, or lack a good reason for doing so.

[Noxictyz]

@sliplocke What does decrease human reproduction: Higher education about how the world works, more access to healthcare and the removal of the need to reproduce b/c the family need more labour power. The last one is the biggest factor in the 3:rd world where one more person getting water each day is essential for a family to survive.

[eryksun]

The world currently cultivates around 15 trillion m^2 of land for food, which could maybe be done for 5 trillion m^2 on a vegan diet. Say a given floorspace of this stacked greenhouse has 10 times the capacity of cultivated land and we could build at a 90% discount (about $150/m^2), that's 75 trillion USD -- about 125% of the total world GDP. Say each greenhouse has 10,000 m^2 of floor space. You'd have to construct 50 million of them. I think this is feasible over a decade.

[MUPartee]

awesome

[olipass]

greeeeeeat !!!!

[walter0bz]

20k/day diexing of starvation but still the population is growing

fewer babies = less misery

[kingofthebrittains]

Eeeeexxcelent! Keep 'em comin'!

It just goes to prove that Peace & Prosperity are easy but War & $carcity are Profitable.

But that's starting to change. ;-)

[paragonflux]

cool information! :)

[lasse585]

They're already using geothermal energy on Iceland and has done so for years, so there's nothing that needs to be invented.

[HomelessKricket]

besides the MIT report on how much geothermal energy is available, what other sources are there?

and do you know if Jacque has invented geothermal pumps that will actually work?

[DofS1]

When will we hear the birdy speak? lol hehe

[ianmeadmaker]

According to the SGS Alternate, the unemployment rate is over 20%.

[WodeBolder]

fantastic.

i think this is the key issue... feed people for free and ALL other problems will naturally be solved.

stopping world hunger should be the dominant issue on EVERYONES mind!

good work guy

[kingofthebrittains]

Absolutely. Check out Will Allen's Growing Power on YT- his aquaponics systems could feed the world easily. And it's all low tech & inexpensive, so it can be done now.

There's nothing stopping any of us from doing what we can where we live with others who think the same way.

[Moodzulu]

Keep them coming great job.

[charlionfire]

Great Job!!

[DoctorNowShow]

Wow, you guys are fast!

Thanks for watching!

[W1z3k]

I love your videos as well! Keep them comeing! :)

[paragonflux]

love your vids !

who are you on the zeitgeist forums or on the ZM vent..? (if you use them, that is..)

cheers :)