Finkelstein - Honor Hizbullah, Arabs have no Self-Respect

[anawad8lba2012]

wow when some americunts hear the truth they feel pain in their asses 

[musikali1]

He says war was inevitable, based on what?

If Lebanese won't attack Israel, Israel won't attack Lebanon.

The killing of 8 IDF soldiers in July 2006 was not resistance since Israel wasn't interfering within Lebanon in anyway. It only makes sense if you identify Lebanon with Palestinians. There were other cease-fire violations before July 2006 that Israel ignored, so it doesn't seem like they were just waiting for a pretext.

[shadowofears]

God bless him

[beno2505]

i respect that man lol.

[IMJEW1SH]

ahahahahahah finkelstein is one of us he promotes the idea of holocaust that never existed hahahhahahhhhhhhhhhhhhaahaah

[TheEEStudent]

This person is the biggest moronic idiot ever to walk the face of the earth.

[freestylemoody]

finkelstein should be jewish president

[Tsnore]

Finkelstein refuses to cave into pressure. That's what makes him a refreshing voice in media.

[KarimMezghani]

What he says is true.The actions of the traitor Lebanese that label Hezbollah as terrorists(minority of Lebanese)exposes them as cowards.

[guyba7]

Finkelstein is the worst person EVER!!! not only is he a faciest nazy supporter of terrorist organazation Hizbullah. he is a two faced bigoted liar. hes faciest opinions and hes hatred for israel convinces me that he is just a terrible person even in the individual level!! FUCK U FINLSTEIN!!! GO SUCK OFF MUSLIMS RADICALS WHO WANT TO KILL U!!

[Antizionist4life]

@guyba7 Hizbollah are not against Jews and do not hate jews,they are Anti-Zionists!! There are many Ortodox Jewish arround the world including israel who support Hamas and Hezbollah!! Norman Finkelstein is a man who speaks the truth,my respect for that man!!

[guyba7]

@Antizionist4life

it really doesnt take too much intelligence to realize that being anti-zionist is to be anti jew

zionism is a national movment for a state for the jewish people

to be anti-zionist means you are against jews having their state in their historic homeland

which make you VERY ANTI-JEWISH!

sure some radical religious nutbags ultra-orthadox jews are anti zionist as well as some rotten liers finkelstein

but most jews are zionist and/or support zionism naturally

[danieltuent178]

@guyba7 i guess the Torah must be anti-semetic because the Torah says that Jews shouldnt have their own state until the prophet returns. LOOK IT UP! P.S. Its not true that most jews support Isreal, even the a lot of the youth in Isreal protest against the killing of Lebanon and Palestine protesters.

[tomtumboy]

Norman Finkelstein would make a great leader for Israel, he understands the politics of the middle east better than any American president ever will, a truly intelligent man.

[Vahe345]

jews were the first terrorists if you know your history they started using that tactic to gain attention thats why the British left Palastine. The King David Hotel bombing is a classic example of a civlian targetting by jews and they are looked at by Isreal as heros, but they call lebanese, iran, venezuella and any enemy a terroist, hallocaust dennier, anti semetic lol it's a joke

[k1a1t1h1y1]

i wish the usa would stop giving them money and weapons, put oil sanctions on them from Egypt and wherever else they get oil and let Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Saudi arabia eat israel alive.

[polridi]

Is he seriously saying hitler wanted to achieve his goals peacefully!?!?!? The guy is saying that hitler wanted to kill all the jews peacefully!? This guy is such a hypocrite... cause if I would hold this against him, he'll say ''my parents/grandparents went through the war''. He's honoring violence and terrorism instead of honoring talking. This guy never talks about Israel that has to defend itself day in, day out. Do you honor Israel, for surviving all these wars? What a fool!

[babaveonglu]

@polridi chechoslovakia and austria, hitler took them without war;)

[myfacehurts31]

wow, the end of this vid was like watching some brainwashing propaganda shit. He's right about his history. People make choices out of Let Me Live styles of thinking. But what's wrong with that? Why does he respect people who'd rather die? I understand respecting that mentality, but these days people don't just die...they blow themselves up and kill others with them.

[babaveonglu]

@myfacehurts31 its called 4th generation warfare, nothing new- its everywhere where a big inbalance in militarypower exists

[missperfectlovebuzz]

he predicted all this 2008, i have unquestionable respect for this man

[zafff13]

this is hilarious

a Lebanese saying that the war of 2006 is hezbollah's fault, that they attacked israel for no reason, and that israel is right to act as they did and an american telling her that she is wrong. this imperialist telling the indigenous people that they don't understand the world, they are not rational people.

this video is excellent in showing who is the true finkelstein - an imperialist which opposes everything the west stands for.

[cafeturkie]

"People have the right to defend themselves from foreign invaders who are destroying their country"

He could be describing Hezbolla!

Who killed Lebanon's democratically elected prime minister??

The Lebanese Christians also have a right to defend themselves from Iranian Shia fanatics.

[SiratAl7aq]

u write like other are supposed to guess what you're saying...i dont remember there being iranian shia invading lebanon? and how about u answer your own question..who did kill rafi2 l7ariri? and r u trying to say 7ezbollah are foreigners?

[mirachaghouri]

Are you Lebanese? As a Lebanese and as a Christian, I believe we should defend our country from Israel that has destroyed our country. It invaded us 5 times, bombed us, wiped us off the map whenever the economy is flourishing again, it took our historical heritage, our monuments, our water, our people. Shame on some of us.

[rocksparadox]

@mirachaghouri Yes shame on the some that help weak terrorist organisations to attack innocent Israeli civilians. Indeed there is shame, and there is a lot of shame in the biased incorrect hatespeeches that Finkelwank expresses.

[barbarajakubowska]

God Bles Prof. Norman Finkelstein !

[abbasar1984]

well said.. enough said

[canadianmuslimnproud]

Never to forget.

Never to forgive.

How can we expect others to respect us If we ourselves have no self respect.

We as a people need to take these words to our hearts and apply them in our deeds.

[kashgar22]

Well said Norman, right on!

[shabandar1]

awesome he is the hero he spoke nothing bur truth

[gjylymsere]

FInkelstein - living legend

??- can he understand/speak arabic?

god bless him & Hezbolah

[xingyimaster1987]

go finklestein

[khattawal]

Finkelstein is a hero. More power to him. He has the guts to expose the nazi practices of the vandal, moronic, zionist state Israel. Anyone interested in history, read "The holocaust industry" by Finkelstein and "Beyond Chutzpah". We need more people like him!

[rocksparadox]

@khattawal Haha wat ben je toch een lutser als je zegt dat deze leugenachtige hoerenzoon. Je hebt zeker meer mensen zoals hij nodig, maar helaas kotst de westerse wereld en de rest van de wereld van jullie gore godsdienstige onderdrukking en pogingen tot terreur. Iedereen met een steen in zijn hand mag een M4 kogel door zijn hoofd verwachten, wij gaan NOOIT aan de kant.

[navojoARISTOCRAT]

@khattawal

that was excellent literature

[khattawal]

Down with Zionism and US Imperialism

[islamictvdotcom]

@khattawal I agree

[khattawal]

Finkelstein speaks the truth. more power to him

[Sefardi123]

DAMN Finkelstein - war-mongerer!

God will pay him dearly.

THIS is NOT what his poor parents survived the Holocaust for (and he USES them to get a pass for what he says!).

[Sefardi123]

5:38

Finkelstein proves he is Chamberlain's philosophical Bastard son...

All while lying throuh his nose...

"Nobody wants war???

HELLO - Hitler's "Mein Kepf "= "my war"

Fanatic Islam's JIHAD = "Holy WAR"

LIAR.

Is there anyway to accost this guy in a "questions-answers" debate?

Does he give his side-show anywhere near NYC?

[sumlatinkid]

first of all its "mein kampf" and it means "my struggle"

[Sefardi123]

sumla

"Kampf" is related to our English word "camp". In old times, people would make camp when going out to war. Actually, modern armies too make camps... So "Kempf really means war.

BESIDES - isn't this a FLAGRANT LIE by Finkelstein??? I mean, if Hitler (curse him) "didn't want war" then why did he attack, conquer and destroy most of Europe???

from the word

[sumlatinkid]

no..Mein Kampf means my struggle or my campaign i dunno how the hell you got mixed up with military camps...maybe because it sounds alike? i don't know but your logic is stupid. as for wanting war.Finkelstein is correct..he did not want war..he wanted to retake the Rhineland and other parts of Germany lost during WW1 and before that .he expected the Allies NOT to react because he thought NOBDODY wanted war, to his surprised He was attacked. and then ensued the rest of the campaign.get informed

[Sefardi123]

sumla...

If I had 1$ for every lie you make!

If Hitler did NOT want war,WHY did he attack and conquer ALL Czechoslovakia, ALL Poland, ALL Greece, ALL Bulgaria, ALL France, Almost ALL Russia??? WHY did he attack England??? Why did he attack North AFRICA???

WHY in the wahnsee meeting 1941 did Nazis calculate how many Jews are in the U.S. - the same way they calculated how many Jews are in Europe - and how to kill them most efficiently?

You are damn liar - and you know it.

God will pay you.

[sumlatinkid]

as i said before he wanted to retake the Rhineland and parts of Germany lost before the war...if you know history you will know WW 1 happened not too long before Hitler came into power..NOBODY WANTED WAR YOU STUPID FUCK...he was COUNTING ON THAT...so he thought he could retake the land without any major military struggle..he ended up being wrong..The allies attacked him and then he went on as you say "attack and conquer poland, Greece,etc" but that is normal military campaign when at war

[matrixnaz]

Hello sumlatinkid,

as you will see me and khattawal have been talking to Sefardi123. Despite the fact that he initially used foul language with me, i was civil to him. and now you will notice he is actively trying to engage. to argue and to learn. I don't think name calling is a good idea. if we want to convince other people of our vision, ideas etc then we can't become abusive. Sefardi's knowledge is a bit limited. But i feel that he could be willing to learn. regards

[Sefardi123]

Sumla - are you cussing at me because you have no argument?

Hitler said it in his book and in his speeches that the "superior Aryan race needs to remove the inferior races in order to make room for the Aryans to grow".

"Normal military campaign" is to push those who attack you. He was supposed to take ONLY the Sudette area in Czechoslovakia - NOT all of Czechoslovakia, NOT to invade Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Russia, NOT England, NOT north Africa!!!

Are you NUTS or NAZI ???

[canadiansusan]

AWSOME vid, very logical. RESPECT

[Corpsegrinder89]

he is right..i really agree with everything he says in this video..really a great person..

and he said "there will be another war"..what just happened?..another war!..israel acted like coward for banning him..

ps: sorry for my bad english :)

[Sefardi123]

Corps - I'm sorry for your bad thinking.

[Sefardi123]

5:39 to 5:45

Did HE just JUSTIFY HITLER as someone who "wanted to achieve his aims peacefully"???

Israel attacked Hezbullah because Hezbullah bombed its northern parts after 2005. Hezbullah and Hamas are IRAN's LAPDOGS - and Iran has DECLARED its intention to "erase Zionism/Israel" off the map". Did they just buy BALISTIC MISSILES from RUSSIA because their nuclear development is peaceful???

Finkelstein is a WAR MONGERER using his parents Holocaust to get credibility.

GOD WILL PAY HIM

[damasgate]

you're doing it WRONG

you coagulated hot dog bun walrus gut bastard

[Sefardi123]

damasgate

ANYTHING I would say would not embarrass you as much as you do yourself.

[matrixnaz]

You misread his comments deliberately. He is not justifying Hitler. He is saying if given the chance, Hitler would have been all too happy to occupy Europe peacefully.

As for Israel, it has been carrying out a harsh, brutal occupation for the last 35 years against a helpless people. And alongwith US is alone in the world in rejecting the two state solution on which the entire international community including PLO and the Palestinians are agreed

[matrixnaz]

42 years to be precise

[Sefardi123]

matrixnaz: REALLY?

"If we only gave poor Hitler a chance (to annihilate all Jews+Gypsies+ blacks & enslave all others and conquer the WORLD) then Hitler would have REALLY shown us his GOOD SIDE"...

WAKE UP - LEARN HISTORY!

In 2000 Clinton himself admitted it was ONLY Arafat who sabotaged the peace process. Arabs CHOSE WAR.

Now here's YOUR REAL PROBLEM - the people that tiny Israel's survival puts DOUBT into, and keeps away from YOUR STREETS:

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You're welcome!

[matrixnaz]

What do you intend to show by putting quotations across the sentence, "If we only gave poor Hitler a chance (to annihilate all Jews+Gypsies+..." No one in his or her right mind would ever say or think like that. You should be ashamed of yourself for deliberately misrepresenting my views. What I was saying is, and i will repeat, is that if given the chance to conquer western europe without a fight, Hitler would have all too gladly accepted it. Its not about showing his good side.

[Sefardi123]

matrixnaz - And WHAT WOULD HITLER DO IF ALL EUROPE + RUSSIA just "GAVE THEMSELVES" without a fight?

*Hint: What he did to the Jews who marched into the gas chambers without a fight!

*ANOTHER hint: Hitler himself says what he intends to do: Annihilate all "inferior races": Jews, Africans, Slav, Gypsies...

I guess you think this is a "small price to pay to avoid war".

You and Finkel-Shmuck are the spiritual bastard sons of Chamberlain with his "appeasements". Now you try it w/ Fanatic Islam...

[matrixnaz]

Secondly, what do you mean Clinton "himself" admitted....Is Clinton a Palestinian sympathizer, that you frame it that way. The fact is that "Arabs" didn't choose war. What was offered in 2000 was totally unacceptable to the Palestinias because what was offered was much worse than the south african style bantustans. Arafat did give a counter proposal. That was the two state settlment on which the entire international community is agreed. Israel rejected it outright.

[cafeturkie]

@matrixnaz nonsense. It was Carter who told Arafat to reject the Oslo peace deal, nothing and no one else!

Carter, the president that bought about the Iranian Revolution and encouraged the Iran/Iraq war!

[Sefardi123]

matrix

1) STOP LYING. Arafat insisted on 4.5 MILLION HOSTILE ARABS going back INTO ISRAEL PROPER. That would have been SUICIDE for Israel. Which is fine by you I guess.

2) Underlying your hypocrisy I see an assumption: "If we sold Israel to the Muslims, they would give us peace".

WRONG. If Israel goes down (heaven forbid) The WHOLE WORLD WILL BE UNDER JIHAD. Why? Because TINY Israel's success UPSETS Fanatics' CONFIDENCE in taking THE WORLD.

See vids:

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[matrixnaz]

Since you seem to be totally ignorate, let's start from Oslo. Oslo was not a two-state proposal. That is a common misunderstanding. The Declaration of Principles of September 1993 stated only that the "permanent status" would be based on UN 242, which offers nothing to the Palestinians, not on UN 242 supplemented with the call for a Palestinian state in the occupied territories, the international consensus that the US has blocked since the mid-1970s

[matrixnaz]

The Oslo agreements were hence pure rejectionism. The Rabin & Peres governments following the first Oslo agreement never even mentioned a Palestinian state. More crucially, the Oslo agreements did not bar US-backed Israeli settlement and development programs, which is why the head of the authentic Palestinian negotiating team, Haidar Abdul-Shafi, refused even to attend the White House ceremony in 1993. And as Rabin and Peres made clear, they intended to continue with these programs, and did so.

[Sefardi123]

Matrinax (continued)

5) Hamas and Hezbullah - the two "arms" of Iran in Israel's region - have declared VERY CLEARLY that they want ALL ISRAEL. 67% of the Arab Muslims in the territories voted Hamas.

Iran's Ahmadinejad - their "big brother" - has called "to erase Zionism/Israel off the map". He clearly sees tiny Israel's successful survival, 7 million Jews surrounded by 500 million hostiles- as an obstacle in the confidence of his "mujahedeen" to take over the WORLD. See vid:

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[matrixnaz]

That continued through the entire Oslo process; the peak year for settlement was 2000, Clinton-Barak's last year. By then the issue of a Palestinian state had finally arisen, and the issue was where it would be and with what modalities. The Clinton-Barak Camp David proposals of 2000 were impossible, for reasons that have been discussed at length. There was considerable improvement at the Taba negotiations of January 2001, but these were cancelled by Barak and never formally renewed.

[matrixnaz]

On camp david in more detail, Israel's final status maps conformed closely to the projects it was implementing in the territories at that time, with U.S. support. The final settlement was to divide the West Bank into four Palestinian enclaves, separated from one another and from the (greatly expanded) Jerusalem region, and also separated from Jordan. The enclaves are enclosed - essentially imprisoned - by Israeli settlements and the supporting infrastructure that integrates them within Israel.

[khattawal]

The goal of the Oslo process was accurately described in 1998 by Israeli academic Shlomo Ben-Ami just before he joined the Barak government, going on to become Barak's chief negotiator at Camp David in summer 2000. Ben-Ami observed that "in practice, the Oslo agreements were founded on a neo-colonialist basis, on a life of dependence of one on the other forever."

[khattawal]

With these goals, the Clinton-Rabin-Peres agreements were designed to impose on the Palestinians "almost total dependence on Israel," creating "an extended colonial situation," which is expected to be the "permanent basis" for "a situation of dependence." The Clinton-Barak stand (left vague and unambiguous) was hailed in US as "remarkable" and "magnanimous," but facts made it clear that it was a Bantustan proposal; that is the reason why maps were carefully avoided in the US mainstream media

[Sefardi123]

matrix

1) What are your sources?

2) Arafat was recorded in 1994, speaking to PLO activists in Sweden, "promising" te negotiations were just a "salami tactic" to take lands from Israel slice by slice till the final attack.

3) At the time MOST Israelis supported 67 borders for peace. But Arafat INSISTED on 4.5 MILLION hostile refugees to go back INTO Israel proper - totally suicidal for us, don't you think?

4) Intifada #2 was TOO WELL COORDINATED. It was planned WHILE in "peace negotiations".

[matrixnaz]

There are from all over. But just to quote from Shlomo Ben Amis Scars of War, Wounds of peace. Shlomo Ben Ami by the way was the Chief Negotiator at Camp David so I am guessing you would be happy with that. International law categorically states every palestinian has the right to return to their homes. However, Palestinians didnt demand the full return of 6 million. Shlomo ben ami gives the figure of 4 to 8 hundred thousand. Other authors have given 10s to 200,000.

[matrixnaz]

however, that's all far from the full 6 million or the 4.5 million figure that you keep giving. so please be clear on that. Secondly about camp david, shlomo ben ami says, i am quoting "that if he was a Palestinian he would have rejected camp david". all right? this is the chief negotiator himself speaking.

[matrixnaz]

About Oslo, again quoting from Shlomo Ben Ami, the first intifada started independently of the PLO and Arafat felt he was losing control. So In Oslo Arafat didnt even mention the right of self determination, didnt even mention end of settlements. He basically agreed to be the the sub contractor and collaborator of Israel to suppress the democratic tendencies of Palestinians. This is Shlomo ben ami again.

[matrixnaz]

For more history, again from Shlomo Ben Ami: After the 1929 arabs riots, the Zionist enterprise was one of conquest. The reality on the ground was that of an arab community in a state of terror facing a ruthless Israeli army whose path to victory was paved not only by its exploits against the regular arab armies but also by the intimidation and at times the atrocities and massacres it perpetrated against the civilian arab community.

[matrixnaz]

A panic stricken arab community was uprooted under the impact of the massacres that would be carved into the arabs monument of grief and hatred.

[matrixnaz]

The question of where we're going now is clearly stated by the leading academic specialist on the occupation, Harvard's Sara Roy in the 2000s. Under the terms of disengagement, Israel's occupation is assured. Gazans will be contained and sealed within the electrified borders of the Strip, while West Bankers, their lands dismembered by relentless Israeli settlement, will be penned into fragmented spaces, isolated behind and between walls and barriers.

[matrixnaz]

An EU report stated that "US-backed Israeli policies will virtually end prospects for a viable Palestinian state". This report was also made available by Ha'aretz

[khattawal]

In Camp David 200, Clinton-Barak proposed a Bantustan-style settlement of the kind that South Africa instituted in the darkest days of Apartheid. Just prior to Camp David, West Bank Palestinians were confined to over 200 scattered areas, and Clinton-Barak did propose an improvement: consolidation to three cantons, under Israeli control, separated from one another and from the fourth canton, a small area of East Jerusalem, the center of Palestinian life and of communications in the region.

[khattawal]

The prominent Israeli scholar Ze'ev Sternhell wrote that the government "is no longer ashamed to speak of war when what they are really engaged in is colonial policing, which recalls the takeover by the white police of the poor neighborhoods of the blacks in South Africa during the apartheid era." This new policy is a regression below the Bantustan model of South Africa 40 years ago to which Clinton-Rabin-Peres-Barak and their associates aspired in the Oslo "peace process."

[Sefardi123]

khattawal

We have left-wing academics who hallucinate about an easy solution,by accusing Israel - instead of looking at the real obstacle: "Al Naqba".

The fact that for many Muslim Arabs in Israel, Israel's VERY EXISTENCE is a MONUMENT of HUMILIATION of DEFEAT in 1948. I don't have to tell you what "honor" means in Muslim Arab culture - with its "honor killings".

67% of them VOTED Hamas, who wants to annihilate us.

I wish we could give them back their pride without letting them kill us.

[khattawal]

OMG! matrix naz seems to be a scholar. to be honest, i have knowledge but not as much. anyway, quoting from Israeli historian Benny Morris from Righteous Victims: A History of the Zionist-Arab Conflict, 1881-2001.

"Israelis like to believe, and tell the world, that they were running an "enlightened" or "benign" occupation, qualitatively different from other military occupations the world had seen. The truth was radically different.

[khattawal]

Like all occupations, Israel's was founded on brute force, repression and fear, collaboration and treachery, beatings and torture chambers, and daily intimidation, humiliation, and manipulation. True, the relative lack of resistance and civil disobedience over the years enabled Israelis to maintain a facade of normalacy and implement their rule with a relatively small force, consisting of a handful of IDF battalions,

[khattawal]

a few dozen police officers (rank-and-file policemen were recruited from among the Palestinians), and a hundred or so General Security Service (GSS) case officers and investigators.

...

Military administration, uncurbed by the civil rights considerations that applied in Israel, possessed ample measures to suppress dissidence and protest. These included curfews; house arrest, with resulting loss of wages; judicial proceedings, ending in prison terms or fines

[khattawal]

- the work of the military courts in the territories, and the Supreme Court which backed them, will surely go down as a dark age in the annals of Israel's judicial system - or expulsions; administrative detentions, or imprisonment without trial, for renewable six-month terms; and commercial and school shutdowns, usually in response to shop-keepers' strikes or disturbances by students.

[Sefardi123]

khattawal

Israel has proven its sincere willingness to work for peace - even if it involves painful concessions.

It has given back the Sinai peninsula to Egypt, after Egypt lost its rights to it by trying to annihilate Israel in 1967 and 1973.

***Do you know ANY such case in history - where a country is attacked, is victorious - and then GIVES conquered land BACK to its defeated aggressor?

If the Palestinians really wanted peace, they would have their own state, thriving along Israel.

[khattawal]

Your history reminds me of the history of a school kid having grown up on state propaganda who never since bothered to study for himself and look around. Israel has been carrying a harsh and brutal occupation of a people. People in the Israeli establishment are frank enough to admit that. And they do so proudly. There are facts galore. But if u don't want to investigate and want to stick to the comfortable line that the others are evil while u are good, its upto u.

[khattawal]

About giving back the Sinai peninsula etc to Egypt, againt its very sad that you are so immersed in the usual propaganda line. Please read for godssake. the fact is that Egypt did offer a peace treaty to Israel before 1973 but Israel was so drunk with the success of 1967 that they refused outright. Then in 1973, in a war which became disastrous for Israel, almost on the verge of being destroyed. Israel learned its lesson and agreed to make a peace deal. Read please. Learn please. all the best

[Sefardi123]

khattawal Again I ask: Do you know ANY such case in history - where a country is attacked, is victorious - and then GIVES conquered land BACK to its defeated aggressor? ALSO: The brutality of Israelis against Arabs is in self defense. We DID TRY HONESTLY in 2000 - I myself supported it. See for yourself who we are dealing with, and tell me HOW to make peace with THESE: ?v=OEXQHqXmCRg ?v=zPeh_kqcpoA ?v=GhykweuNEak ?v=w91MgE3mi80 ?v=TfwCfeMKZTk (excuse the music...) ?v=fLIdxF-GHWw

[khattawal]

"We DID TRY HONESTLY in 2000". It seems that you are not paying any attention to the facts. I read with great interest matrixnaz comments. they are accurate. do pay attention. As for giving back land, i could go through the whole record of 1967 and 1973, if you want. But what's the use? Are you going to pay any attention to facts? or just stick with whatever makes you comfortable, happy and superior? you decide.

[Sefardi123]

khattawal

You still don't answer my question.

Israel was attacked (sending the UN away in 67, getting their forces to the border and declaring they would throw the Jews into the sea - is war).

I read matrix. Even IF it's true (and I don't know it is) that's NO justification to start intifada#2 with 1000 murered Israeli civilians. You continue negotiations.

Did you bother to see the vids?

Do you EVER make ANY demands of the Muslim fanatics, or only from the Israelis?

[khattawal]

in February 1971 President Sadat of Egypt offered a full peace treaty to Israel on the pre-June 67 borders. In accordance with official American policy, incidentally, but not operative policy, offering nothing to the Palestinians, he didn't even offer them a Palestinian state, nothing. Nevertheless Israel rejected it.

[khattawal]

Under Kissinger's initiative, the United States by late 1970 abandoned even a rhetorical commitment to a political settlement and was supporting a very different program, namely, the Israeli program of developing and ultimately annexing substantial parts of the occupied territories, a policy that led directly to the October 1973 war.

[khattawal]

After 1973, a war which was a disaster for Israel, it recognized that Egypt was no "basket case" and had to settle for a peace treaty with Egypt. However, ironically this time the peace treaty was worse for Israel as they had to concede more than was being asked for in 1971. In 1971 Egypt didn't ask anything for the Palestinians. So because drunk with success after '67 Israel didn't accept a full peace treaty that favored them, but later had to settle on a more stringent treaty.

[Sefardi123]

khattawal

Yes in 1967 Israel was drunk on power.

It's a MAJOR mistake to under-estimate your enemy.

Aren't the 67% Palestinians who VOTED HAMAS doing the same mistake?

I would accept 1967 borders if the Arabs were SINCERE.

They do *NOT* want 1967 borders.

They want it *ALL*. They SAY IT.

Unlike you, I DO take them seriously.

Maybe it's time you did too?

DID you watch the vids about Hamas and fundamentalist Islam - yes or no?

[khattawal]

Ben Gurion used to call Palestinians Cockroaches. Other leaders said to the Palestinians that we would treat you like the Bedouin treat kidnapped girls. They force them to accept whatever they want. Israeli is a vandal, moronic state as Finkelstein rightly asserts.

[Sefardi123]

khattawal - such PASSION and "frothng at the mouth"!

Where is your "intellectual objectivity"?

SEE THE DAMN VIDS - RESPECT the MUSLIMS by LISTENING to what THEY have to say - not what you would LIKE to DREAM they say!

Learn from Chamberlain's downfall.

Learn from history - or be condemned to repeat it.

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[khattawal]

You know full well that Finkelstein wasn't defending Hitler. Either you are senile, which i believe you are not. Or, you are doing all this deliberately. you just can't see the other side. And i now know why. Coz you believe in your God. You are a fanatic well all the best to you.

[Sefardi123]

khattawal

1) Do you know who the Hezbullah Finkelstein "honors" are???

Obviously you didn't see the vid.

2) He was DEFINITELY defending Hitler by attempting to clear Hitler from any ill intention for war - all the while while CALLING for WAR against Israel and the U.S.!!!

3) The superstitious closed-minded here is you. You worship your "infallible pope Finkelstein" to the point you filter out the ODIOUS NATURE of what he says!

I think you need a little laugh:

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[deuxhardboiledeggs]

you dipshit, Finkelstein was not defending Hitler. You dumb pedophile saturated Israelis are going to be humbled and you're going to learn to like it.

[khattawal]

And no i don't ever make ANY demands of Muslim fanatics like i don't make ANY demands of Israeli fanatics. But i do respect good people on both sides. Two of my favorite people are Israelis: Israel Shahak and Uri Avnery. Your latest take on Finkelstein shows that your sole aim is to trash talk Finkelstein and to vandalize this video page. "God will pay him dearly?" What kind of fanatic language is that? You are a fanatic. I wasted so much of my time on you. matrixnaz should ignore you too.

[Sefardi123]

khattawal

With all due respect to your "scholarship"

You call ME fanatic - when it is Finkelstein who is MONGERING WAR against Israel and the U.S.?

You call ME fanatic - when Finkelstein DEFENDS HITLER by saying "Hitler didn't want war"!

You call ME fanatic - when it is Finkelstein who calls for Israel to have a "major defeat like Nazi Germany" (which means 1/10 of Israelis dead, as was in Germany = 700,000 people!).

See vid: ?v=RyDrP2EsYGo

*Gullible liberals = West's Achilles hill*

[escobar18769]

excellent,like da good book says,among them jews n christians THRERE ARE A FEW GOOD MEN!

[inachu]

Finflestien would be a good USA president but skull and bones and AIPAC would be against him.

[nukn]

there is something great about Finkelstein

[hedwallyb]

heida hake!

shame on us

[mmhal]

The jews played their biggest trick when they created Mustafa Kamal Attatork who is a Donma Jew and they destroyed all moslem countries by creating that man's fake victories over the Greek, Turkish Moslems belived that and now they are out of Islam and the whole Ottman Empire moslems got far away from Islam... Hizballah victories are fake/allowed victories to destroy what is left of moslems and destroy Lebanon economy and society... This Jew is pushig Hizbulla to play this role. we are so blind

[crackbacker]

Dear mmhal, whether he says it or not, Hizbullah will always defent the Lebanese sovreignty and Independance against the Israeli occupation and breaches.

Whether you think hes pushing fake ideas or not, Hizbullah resistance will continue fighting for freedom. It seems a jewish professor is more truthful and realistic than arab leaders.

However, I do respect your point of views anyway.

[bluedragon888]

Please provide the evidence for Ata Turk being a Domna Jew.

[mingalabaa]

Yeah, I like to have proof that Ataturk was a Jew. Such propaganda by the fundamentalist.

[inachu]

Ataturk a supreme jewish sympathiser.

[damasgate]

you're doing it wrong