The G11 was already in field tests of the german army and was almost ready for serial production. The very most of the problems, people know about, where solved in the K2 version (But THIS is not the K2 version). The reason, that the G11 was canceled were political and financial ones. The reunification was damn expensive and after the fall of the warsaw pact, the government was unable to justify the adoption of an assault rifle, beeing as 7 times expensive as a conventional rifle...
@VpR81 I wonder if there is any hope that the G11 or something like the G11 might be issued to the German armed forces in the future? Weapons like the G11 are the wave of the future!
@jayatfreelance No chance, I fear, because of numerous reasons, not the least might be the cost of weapon and ammunition.
The german "Bundeswehr" is in fact using a quite reliable weapon in the G36 (advanced version of the earlier H&K G3), sadly it's in no way innovative or modern.
Well, as long as the US are still using the M16 or simliar weapons...
Too bad the word "Koch" has such a tricky pronunciation. Sounds like in the future you will shoot coke or sometimes even couches at your enemies... X)
@TheMcK777 the loading mechanism was to unconventional so basically you could only use rounds that are in the exact "magazine" that is shown in the video
@co0leo56 That wasn't the main issue. The main problem was the cook off. Advances in propellant that don't cook off at high temperatures are being made currently.
@TheMcK777 A lot of it had to do with politics; the reunification of West & East Germany led to the cancellation of the G11 project. Plus, the G11 wasn't perfect, especially in concern to its dangerous cook-off tendencies (the caseless ammo could heat up and explode).
@dave55811 Cook-off has mostly been addressed. High ignition propellant is the answer. Future caseless designs are going to incorporate even higher temperature ignition propellant and electronic firing.
But there is something wrong with the Title. This is not the G11 K2. The G11 K2 was the one wich was delivered for field tests to the german army and not a prototype anymore. The one shown in the video is a prototype. The K2 had two spare magazines, was able to attach a bajonett and had a way different handguard. It was the final version, ready for serial production. Watch for the video "H&K G11", uploaded by HKUMP. That is the K2
You must be new to assault rifles of something, because if you can't see why the recoil on this weapon is too much for a common infantry man, something is up with you. Unfortunately, not all soldiers are testosterone fueled warriors who think 45-70 gov't kick is recoil pleasure. Assault rifle were made to have rate of fire and low kick of a submachine gun, and the distance if a high powered rifle.
@Cowbelltheoneandonly if this recoil allows you to put 3 bullets into the same target in under 1/10th of a second then i'd say that's a price anyone would be glad to pay ;)
besides assault rifles were never meant to have the range of a high powered rifle (nor do they)
all 3 features like you described them together in one gun are simply not possible
Here's a good comparison: go look at a video in which a soldier is firing an M16 or any other assault rifle in 5.556/45mm. Then, go watch a video of a soldier firing an FN FAL or any other assault rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm. Now look back at the M16. Now look back at the FAL. See the difference? The M16 is putting rounds on paper in full auto, while the FAL is spraying everyone (unless the shooter is some big ass fucker who jacks off to Fight Club, lol)
@Cowbelltheoneandonly Look at the M16. Now the FAL. Now back at the M16. See the difference? This is the assault rifle yours could be if it used the 5.56mm round.
No..the HK G11 fires a 4.73x33mm caseless rounds, which in result has more recoil. The whole idea of caseless ammunition is not suitable for an assault rifle..possibly a light machine gun system.
@Cowbelltheoneandonly The reason you think it has a large amount of recoil is that it fires a 3 round burst very quickly so you are seeing the combined recoil of 3 rounds. However the rounds are fired so quickly that they still form a tight group. In single shot it would have similar recoil to a M16.
@davidatheist with the added benefit that all 3 bullets will hit the same target
i can only wonder why people would think this burst fire isn't superior to any other assault rifle currently in use... if you can fire burst like you'd a single shot and be sure whatever you hit is ultimately out of combat ... well let's just say the same can't be said about the M16
granted its lack of spray isn't great for suppressing fire but what the hell you can still use full auto for that
@Keh0ol To answer to that, 3 bullers burst and with a 45bullet magazine, you can run out of bullets at half time of that of M16. Besides that, the bullet-resistant vests that are developed today can easily withstand all three bullets on the same spot. (Which by the way isnt exactly the same spot. Each bullet has a slighly different impact location).
PS. I dont mean to support M16 or Colt but i think i would rather go with and oldie, goldie AK-47 or a G3 to war rather than this thing.
@Steilhandgranate "Besides that, the bullet-resistant vests that are developed today can easily withstand all three bullets on the same spot. "
modern bulletproof vests with armor plate can withstand a 7.62x51 nato at point blank which is pretty much the most powerful round you'll find in any mobile automatic weapon
the G11 would tear through a kevlar-vest (without armor plate) like butter
the M-16 still doesn't hold anything against a 3 round burst that's almost as accurate as single fire
@SixbulletRussianRoul i knew about this long before i knew about black ops, when i seen it on black ops i was really surprised to see such a weird and barely known weapon in a video game.
@SixbulletRussianRoul Right here. Loooooong before Black Ops; I'd say I've known of the G11 9-10 years before Black Ops was released. However, I never knew of its reloading operation until Black Ops, and I don't even know if it's legit or not (rotating that thing in the back after loading a new magazine).
@zclary923 The reason you think it has a large amount of recoil is that it fires a 3 round burst very quickly so you are seeing the combined recoil of 3 rounds. However the rounds are fired so quickly that they still form a tight group. In single shot it would have similar recoil to a M16.
@watchmeskate10 The WA2000 is a sniper rifle that fires conventional ammunition in a conventional way. The only similarity to the G11 is its general outline.
The majority of them didn't. I hate faggots who learn their weapons from video games and post comments on videos as if they know what they're talking about. The only thing that I hate about Black Ops is that they didn't include the SKS, which was a beast of a weapon that saw combat during Vietnam.
@TheWehrmacht1944 Yes but in burst mode, with the recoil not being felt until the bullet of the 3-burst has left the barrel, you can put all 3 rounds perfectly on target, something that was never possible with the M16. In full auto, the fire rate is slow enough to keep on target. Perhaps a compensator is in order, though.
During the U.S. Army and Bundeswehr tests it was also obvious that the newbies can learn the handling and cleaning of this weapon much easier compared to the HK G3, or the M16.
To clean the HK G11, it only has to be field-stripped to 5 big parts, compared to the M16 (with 8 or 10 parts I can't remember exactly).
The inner mechanism is very dirty after shooting a few thousand rounds but despite this(!), it was found to be a very reliable weapon.
I wouldnt use that gun just because it's fucking ugly.
coldbrewbeer 2 months ago
It kicks like hell and reloads like.... I don't know what, neither do they.
FuryGearSolid 2 months ago
The G11 was already in field tests of the german army and was almost ready for serial production. The very most of the problems, people know about, where solved in the K2 version (But THIS is not the K2 version). The reason, that the G11 was canceled were political and financial ones. The reunification was damn expensive and after the fall of the warsaw pact, the government was unable to justify the adoption of an assault rifle, beeing as 7 times expensive as a conventional rifle...
VpR81 4 months ago
@VpR81 I wonder if there is any hope that the G11 or something like the G11 might be issued to the German armed forces in the future? Weapons like the G11 are the wave of the future!
jayatfreelance 1 month ago
@jayatfreelance No chance, I fear, because of numerous reasons, not the least might be the cost of weapon and ammunition.
The german "Bundeswehr" is in fact using a quite reliable weapon in the G36 (advanced version of the earlier H&K G3), sadly it's in no way innovative or modern.
Well, as long as the US are still using the M16 or simliar weapons...
dieyng 1 month ago
damn, that thing had some kick to it
theoroinvictus 5 months ago
man the G11 looks funky :)
TheDemon155 6 months ago
oh... its pronounced "coke".... i pronounced it like "kotch"
frickinasshle 7 months ago
@frickinasshle He sanitised the pronounciation so that squaddies would not drown out the rest of the vid with their own sniggering.
FrogmortonHotchkiss 7 months ago
Too bad the word "Koch" has such a tricky pronunciation. Sounds like in the future you will shoot coke or sometimes even couches at your enemies... X)
LJVolkov21 8 months ago
Why didn't this go to mass production?
TheMcK777 8 months ago
@TheMcK777 the loading mechanism was to unconventional so basically you could only use rounds that are in the exact "magazine" that is shown in the video
co0leo56 8 months ago
@co0leo56 That wasn't the main issue. The main problem was the cook off. Advances in propellant that don't cook off at high temperatures are being made currently.
EnigmaHood 7 months ago
@EnigmaHood HK addressed cook off with the G11. That problem was apparently with older generator ammunition.
SeverEnergia 6 months ago
@TheMcK777 A lot of it had to do with politics; the reunification of West & East Germany led to the cancellation of the G11 project. Plus, the G11 wasn't perfect, especially in concern to its dangerous cook-off tendencies (the caseless ammo could heat up and explode).
dave55811 5 months ago
@dave55811 Cook-off has mostly been addressed. High ignition propellant is the answer. Future caseless designs are going to incorporate even higher temperature ignition propellant and electronic firing.
EnigmaHood 5 months ago
But there is something wrong with the Title. This is not the G11 K2. The G11 K2 was the one wich was delivered for field tests to the german army and not a prototype anymore. The one shown in the video is a prototype. The K2 had two spare magazines, was able to attach a bajonett and had a way different handguard. It was the final version, ready for serial production. Watch for the video "H&K G11", uploaded by HKUMP. That is the K2
VpR81 8 months ago
This rifle is one of the reasons, why HK are two of the most important letters in the world!
VpR81 8 months ago
fuck me, look at the recoil on that thing
tsukishiro70 9 months ago
this is my favorite weapon on black ops
oguzhan093 9 months ago
@QueefJuicer2 Yeah
fds2h3s 10 months ago
@jaglavaksoldier
i've always wanted to point this out but kept forgetting
the rifle in this video isn't actually the final design, the K2, but an earlier prototype from the 80ies
Keh0ol 10 months ago
great gun
Playvoodoo 11 months ago
hell it's strange looking...
tomaka121 1 year ago
this gun was the biggest cock tease firearm ever, a perfectly engineered set of prototypes that went nowhere
iknowmy3table 1 year ago
Looks a little like the Nerf Deploy cs-6.
MegaDJ3K 1 year ago
Wow! Before blacks ops came out, this video only had like 700 views. lol
SugarFreeTargets 1 year ago
Hmmm I think HK should remake the G11 with more appealing aesthetics and see if it catches on. I bet it will.
RedSandStudios 1 year ago
that seems like a small caliber? how would it fare on bodyarmor at 100yd+?
chvishal 1 year ago
Too much kick for an infantry weapon
Cowbelltheoneandonly 1 year ago
@Cowbelltheoneandonly
Its called Recoil. And if you think thats bad then you must be a pussy.
Testement117 1 year ago
@Testement117
You must be new to assault rifles of something, because if you can't see why the recoil on this weapon is too much for a common infantry man, something is up with you. Unfortunately, not all soldiers are testosterone fueled warriors who think 45-70 gov't kick is recoil pleasure. Assault rifle were made to have rate of fire and low kick of a submachine gun, and the distance if a high powered rifle.
Cowbelltheoneandonly 1 year ago
@Cowbelltheoneandonly if this recoil allows you to put 3 bullets into the same target in under 1/10th of a second then i'd say that's a price anyone would be glad to pay ;)
besides assault rifles were never meant to have the range of a high powered rifle (nor do they)
all 3 features like you described them together in one gun are simply not possible
Keh0ol 1 year ago
@Testement117
Here's a good comparison: go look at a video in which a soldier is firing an M16 or any other assault rifle in 5.556/45mm. Then, go watch a video of a soldier firing an FN FAL or any other assault rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm. Now look back at the M16. Now look back at the FAL. See the difference? The M16 is putting rounds on paper in full auto, while the FAL is spraying everyone (unless the shooter is some big ass fucker who jacks off to Fight Club, lol)
Cowbelltheoneandonly 1 year ago
@Cowbelltheoneandonly Look at the M16. Now the FAL. Now back at the M16. See the difference? This is the assault rifle yours could be if it used the 5.56mm round.
RedSandStudios 1 year ago
@RedSandStudios
No..the HK G11 fires a 4.73x33mm caseless rounds, which in result has more recoil. The whole idea of caseless ammunition is not suitable for an assault rifle..possibly a light machine gun system.
Cowbelltheoneandonly 1 year ago
@Cowbelltheoneandonly
oh cmon.. just watch the video and listen closely
it isn't that hard
Keh0ol 1 year ago
@Cowbelltheoneandonly The reason you think it has a large amount of recoil is that it fires a 3 round burst very quickly so you are seeing the combined recoil of 3 rounds. However the rounds are fired so quickly that they still form a tight group. In single shot it would have similar recoil to a M16.
davidatheist 1 year ago
@davidatheist with the added benefit that all 3 bullets will hit the same target
i can only wonder why people would think this burst fire isn't superior to any other assault rifle currently in use... if you can fire burst like you'd a single shot and be sure whatever you hit is ultimately out of combat ... well let's just say the same can't be said about the M16
granted its lack of spray isn't great for suppressing fire but what the hell you can still use full auto for that
Keh0ol 1 year ago
@Keh0ol To answer to that, 3 bullers burst and with a 45bullet magazine, you can run out of bullets at half time of that of M16. Besides that, the bullet-resistant vests that are developed today can easily withstand all three bullets on the same spot. (Which by the way isnt exactly the same spot. Each bullet has a slighly different impact location).
PS. I dont mean to support M16 or Colt but i think i would rather go with and oldie, goldie AK-47 or a G3 to war rather than this thing.
Steilhandgranate 1 year ago
@Steilhandgranate "Besides that, the bullet-resistant vests that are developed today can easily withstand all three bullets on the same spot. "
modern bulletproof vests with armor plate can withstand a 7.62x51 nato at point blank which is pretty much the most powerful round you'll find in any mobile automatic weapon
the G11 would tear through a kevlar-vest (without armor plate) like butter
the M-16 still doesn't hold anything against a 3 round burst that's almost as accurate as single fire
Keh0ol 1 year ago
@Keh0ol But what's the point of wearing a kevlar vest if you dont have armor plates in it?
Im not comparing M-16 to anything. I just mentioned it as an example.
Steilhandgranate 1 year ago
@Steilhandgranate not much point in wearing kevlar only in a combat zone of course
main point was that modern combat armor can withstand pretty much any small arms caliber so you can't really hold that against the g11
Keh0ol 1 year ago
The case disolves in the gun, little recoil in super BURST FIRE 5XXXX!!! and has great resistance to the environment.
Why don't we use this? Can a C Class person get this?
fonkymaster 1 year ago
@fonkymaster it's no longer being produced
only a couple thousand units were made
not sure where they're being stored
probably in the hands of H&K still
Keh0ol 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you knew about this weapon before Black Ops.
SixbulletRussianRoul 1 year ago 199
@SixbulletRussianRoul i knew about this long before i knew about black ops, when i seen it on black ops i was really surprised to see such a weird and barely known weapon in a video game.
dacasman 1 year ago
@SixbulletRussianRoul First time I ever saw this gun was in 007 Agent Under Fire
Zalpha11 1 year ago
@SixbulletRussianRoul
Fallout 2 FTW.
jlowe424 1 year ago
@SixbulletRussianRoul BUT IT LOOKZ SOOO COOL WHEN U PUT DA ORANGE CAMO ON IT!!!!!11111
Streetmastaalex 10 months ago
@SixbulletRussianRoul Right here. Loooooong before Black Ops; I'd say I've known of the G11 9-10 years before Black Ops was released. However, I never knew of its reloading operation until Black Ops, and I don't even know if it's legit or not (rotating that thing in the back after loading a new magazine).
dave55811 5 months ago
@SixbulletRussianRoul black ops is retarted...
bobmanwow 3 months ago
@bobmanwow Yes, and so are you apparently.
SixbulletRussianRoul 3 months ago
Is it just me or does this gun have some hellacious recoil?
zclary923 1 year ago
@zclary923 basically while firing in burst it's like firing 1 single bullet with the recoil and the stopping power of 3 bullets
figuratively speaking
of course you're still firing 3 bullets but they'd all hit the same target at almost the same instant
Keh0ol 1 year ago
@zclary923 The reason you think it has a large amount of recoil is that it fires a 3 round burst very quickly so you are seeing the combined recoil of 3 rounds. However the rounds are fired so quickly that they still form a tight group. In single shot it would have similar recoil to a M16.
davidatheist 1 year ago
how much was the goober at 1:25 paid to stand there and look stupid.
kingmanted 1 year ago 24
What about the WA2000
watchmeskate10 1 year ago
@watchmeskate10 The WA2000 is a sniper rifle that fires conventional ammunition in a conventional way. The only similarity to the G11 is its general outline.
agadhahab1 1 year ago
Yeah lol i just realised i actually commented on the wrong video! XD
It was meant to be on ugliest guns in the world and WA2000 was no where to be seen
watchmeskate10 1 year ago
anyone remember this gun from syphon filter 2?
wesker789 1 year ago
@wesker789
hell yes i do.
thecrow1776 1 year ago
i bet u guys didn't kno this gun, b4 u saw it in black ops
omgitsmeagain13 1 year ago
@omgitsmeagain13 it was in fallout 2
AngryKhan 1 year ago
@omgitsmeagain13
The majority of them didn't. I hate faggots who learn their weapons from video games and post comments on videos as if they know what they're talking about. The only thing that I hate about Black Ops is that they didn't include the SKS, which was a beast of a weapon that saw combat during Vietnam.
KaiserFlamberge 1 year ago
@KaiserFlamberge i feel you, i mean this was my favourite rifle then games had to ruin it just like the g3 and steyr aug
benspreen 1 year ago
i just want you to know someone stole your footage and has 1 million views
imskilled76 1 year ago
lol 0:18 it looks like it's hitting that guy's face
blazejames47 1 year ago
The recoil on this thing is ridiculous
chrausis 1 year ago
that is the most bizarre weapon I've ever seen. Looks uncomfortable to shoot.
GOPACKERSJT 1 year ago
I still don't understand how a gun could use caseless bullets. Does the whole thing ignite and fires off or what?
shmookins 1 year ago
@shmookins ye
94yoyo 1 year ago
man big recoil
hernandezserbia 1 year ago
A pity they didn't have the money to equip german soldiers with it!
mustachos1993 1 year ago
Wow! the original quality footage! you rock!
CypherAod 1 year ago
this thing looks like it kicks like a mule man dam
i read that it does not have alot of kick but it sure dont look it
choas1211 1 year ago
i like the steyr acr more than this
weerd2normal 1 year ago
hands down best gun out there
burningsponge 1 year ago
should make caseless bullpup design with super kriss engineering
centizzle 1 year ago
The Army should Research Infinite Ammo,So that More Ammo is Manufactured Inside the Gun.
wariofan279 1 year ago
@TheWehrmacht1944 Yes but in burst mode, with the recoil not being felt until the bullet of the 3-burst has left the barrel, you can put all 3 rounds perfectly on target, something that was never possible with the M16. In full auto, the fire rate is slow enough to keep on target. Perhaps a compensator is in order, though.
arthur84 1 year ago
hmm look at this website, it tells you all about the gun,
however in this video dose it shoot a 4.92 or a 5.56 nato?
also dose inybody know the barrel length?
jake762X54r 1 year ago
look at that SOB kick
gothxdude10 1 year ago
i think it could look better, but i guess they really care about the looks as long as it kills.
axiongboi 1 year ago
It's fuckin' ugly, but it looks promising.
mtrtrm 1 year ago
How the hell did you managed to get the original ACR footage?
akibmatf 1 year ago 4
@akibmatf It pays to have friends who have access to footage like this...
jaglavaksoldier 1 year ago 13
@jaglavaksoldier You must have very very good friends ;)
akibmatf 1 year ago
During the U.S. Army and Bundeswehr tests it was also obvious that the newbies can learn the handling and cleaning of this weapon much easier compared to the HK G3, or the M16.
To clean the HK G11, it only has to be field-stripped to 5 big parts, compared to the M16 (with 8 or 10 parts I can't remember exactly).
The inner mechanism is very dirty after shooting a few thousand rounds but despite this(!), it was found to be a very reliable weapon.
akibmatf 1 year ago
The U.S. Army and the German Bundeswehr tests on this weapon showed:
-the weapon is much more water- and dustproof than the AK47
-can penetrate a NATO steel helmet up to 600m.
IN SINGLE SHOTS:
-extremely accurate up to 600m.
IN 3 ROUND BURST MODE (2000 rpm):
-up to 100 m the first and the second round hit the same hole and the third hits very close to them
-when firing at a human torso in the realistic combat range of 300-400 m there is a great chance to hit the target with every 3 fired bullet
akibmatf 1 year ago
Gotta love the recoil system. Way ahead of its time.
variatas 1 year ago
The G11 is STILL the future. I'd have bought it :D
peepeevagi 1 year ago