He is right, the C4 Corvette motors "burn up" too easy without hardly any stress. The correct figure is 235hp & 295t I know because I own one and am an aviation electrician NASA electrician. The Corvette is better. The white smoke is the driver over pressuring his intake which is the pinging & knocking you hear. He has bad valve seals, more then likely his front cam seals or his rear main seal/s.
@bushguts1 I'm literally laughing my ass off at that comment. So succinct, so true.
It is good to see American cars worth a damn again, though; I'd even consider owning one of the new Mustang GT's if it was in my price range. Meantime, I love my 2G Talon.
I had a white 92' Talon, loved that thing :) Didn't race with it or soup it up, did put it through its paces a few times though... Got it mostly for the AWD which I actually needed, got me home in some bad storms!
i miss my 1g 91 gs-t, we rebuilt the 4g63 and it was a nasty beast!! Only problem was it wouldnt hook up because it was FWD!! nice talon! Its obviously a 92-94 based on the headlights and taillights, wheels are nice too, are thos Rays?
damn idk why everybody is bashing on the c4...the dsm had various mods vs a i assume stock c4...dont get me wrong that dsm is quick but the c4 are not SLOW cars as everyone says. i dnt push my c4 hard alot but ive taken out a 95 240 sx,89 mild modded iroc, and bmw 540i(believe it or not) if thats the one with the v8, and some random h22 prelude
Firstly, the DSMs are made here in Normal, IL, but it is an import in that it's a tiny car made by a Japanese company (it's pretty much a 2 door Galant). Second, the C4 vettes aren't all that since they had rather anemic engines and can be bought for as little as 5-6k in decent shape nowdays. Third, Eagle was one of remnants of AMC, the most famous of which is Jeep.
woow - the Vette C4 was nearly as fast off the line as the AWD DSM. seems like a RWD car with good weight ditribution is the way to go. nice vid and thanks for uploading
Like alterchristopher said the newer Vettes didnt get fast till the LT1. But I think that if that Vette is auto (I couldnt tell lol) a high stall torque converter and shift kit would even the race out
@Colemode dsm means diamond star motors and started production in 1990 starting with the car I have a Plymouth laser rs which only went on until 1994 when they discontinued it. they stopped the talon in 1998 but the eclipse hasnt stopped production. In 1999 they stopped putting the 4g63 motor in the eclipse and chenged it and now thats the motor thats in the lancer evo.
@Colemode dsm means diamond star motors and started production in 1990 starting with the car I have a Plymouth laser rs which only went on until 1994 when they discontinued it. they stopped the talon in 1998 but the eclipse hasnt stopped production. In 1999 they stopped putting the 4g63 motor in the eclipse and changed it some and now thats the motor thats in the lancer evo.
it was smoking more less cuz its getin more fuel then normal to run richer so it dont burn a valve or melt a piston and exc.."but i could be wrong to why that one in perticuliar is smoking...
@bigenginesismythang Well, my illiterate friend, this depends on if I'm at the track, or cruising with the family,or driving to work. Track, a 383ci procharged 96Z28,hence the screen name. Cruising, a 383 carbed IROCZ, and I drive a base model G8(v6) as a daily driver.
@bighunt08 gotcha just wondering not a huge vette dude i like them just dont know much about them beside the croos-fire injectoin is junk and the new zr1 is nasty fast!
@IROCwarriorAMC88 I agree with you, I can respect any car that can beat me. as well as knowing each car has its strong and weak areas. One car can get spanked in the 1/4 and dominate in a canyon race.
Oh and btw if that talon really is only a 13 sec talon (Which all u ricers exagerate anyway).. Then there's no way it's outrunning my stock 94 (300hp) vette or my 95 procharged (494hp) vette... Which I'm sure I spent less on than that dude with the mexitalon did his.. Who's gonna bitch first?
This Talon was basically stock. The mods besides the exhaust weren't helping make more power, they are preparatory mods for when the boost gets cranked up.
@bighunt08 haha, a stock turbo DSM could take your car. 14b's have gotten into the 11's/12's on hundreds if not thousands of cars, and into the 10's on more han 1 car also (though that is pretty far to push a little 14b turbo)
@goodhart253.. Which Vette of mine are u talkin about my stock one or the one I've put a little money into that actually outruns newer vettes...My stock Vette is out of shape and slow so a DSM prolly will outrun it with ease... If u try to run 10's on a stock motor like that you'll blow it up fast u idiot... Frankly I don't think u know what your talking about... Stick to spectating...
@goodhart253... What the fuck makes you think I'm a hillbilly... Do you even kno what a hillbilly is?.. No you don't obviously.. Were I'm from I'd be more likely to be in the kkk than to be a damn hillbilly but you don't seem to be much for history, education, reasoning, or the facts... But I guess for some people ignorance is bliss and arrogance is the word of the day...
@goodhart253 only way u can push a 14b like that if its ported.. the fuel management gots to be good and it gots to have a lsd trans.. even then i dont think will ever reach 11's...
@brown16knigit I haven't seen or heard of a 10 sec 14b dsm on stock mods or even 11's.. plz idc if it gots a 7cm housing.. but if there is then had to b built..
@brown16knigit ignorant??? Lmao.. plz I own many of there dsms, from 1g to 2g.. u need to stop being a internet reader and actually own and race one.. I'm just saying to u and richboi, that the times u are claiming in a quarter mile is not true on a stock motor with a 14b.. the only person who is ignorant is u.. stop tryin to b a internet mechanic when ur not..
Eh those are the slower c4s that push under 250hp.. Anyway why spend that much money on a talon... All u ricers get pissed wen somebody bashes your ricerockets... U kno u can't win without ur faggot turbos.. Bring on tha bitching u fuckn ricers u kno I'm right!. Which one of you will bitch first?!
@bighunt08@bighunt08 LMAO look at you your the ricer! Do you have an idea of what the meaning ricer its? Because there its nothing rice about this DSM, any car can be riced out, faggot turbos? What would v8 do without turbos or superchargers at the track? Lose! Muscle guys are the first ones who dont think it twice to go turbo, anyways your problem its that your fustrated because little 4cyl like this little monster are spanking every type of car around the streets/tracks, but hate on it ricer!
@RICHBOIII1 ...Oh god whatever u tuners will have to admit that a fourbanger is nothin without a turbo... I doubt I'd call myself a ricer when I don't drive an import... And u can bitch all u want I'm sorry... But you're not gonna be outrunning any properly built corvettes with your "Fast and Furious" Hondas and Talons without putting a lot of money into every part of that motor because the stock motor itself can't handle that kind of horsepower...
@bighunt08 stock 4g63 motors can handle upwards of 500hp. just get stronger head studs metal head gasket bigger turbo fuel pump injectors and a mild tune a dsm can run low 11s or mid to high 10s with no nos. and ive seen an acura rsx put down 320hp with out a turbo with less money than a vette is worth. try doing some research before you try being a smartass youtube mechanic
@sk8rj514... As I said.. U guys will always say add a bigger turbo... Fuck the turbo... But you're not gettin anywere near 320 horses without a turbo or alot of cash... Sure head work and cam maybe... But no stock import engine like that is built to handle 500 horses reliably sorry ur wrong... Btw an 02 Zo6 can be had for around 18k
@bighunt08 Hahahah wtf you talking about? i could easily put down on stock block properly tune 410awhp without hurting my budget, plus if you really have a vette like you claim up there let me tell you that neither your 94 or 95 can keep up with a awd or fwd talon thats pushing that kind of power, i myself have raced older and newer z06 and even a regular model c6 with a 250 shot and have beat them by not cars, but trucks. Just keep respect for the import guys, like we respect v8 guys!
@RICHBOIII1... Fuck what would we do without YouTube!... It's nice to bitch at somebody that actually knows what the hell they're talkin about!... my 95 Vette is runnin tens with drag radials cause the 494 horses are to the wheels... My dad has been drivin a Nismo Z for a year now and I'd trade my stock 94 for it in a heartbeat... I like tuners but thanks to those fuckn fast and furious movies you have to build them just right or you will be labeled a ricer... Don't rice em tune em!
@bighunt08 Your claiming 10sec on that vette, i would affirm without been scared to swear that you must have put alot of cash into that vettes traction and tune. Theres no way you can get near the low10s on the stock chassis unles we talking AWD. Anyways these is getting stupid cus you know your V8's and i know my 4Cyl's, my main point its that these talon its not riced out no way, i myself hate ricers but more then a DSM'er im a car guy and i keep respect for any cars on the road!
@RICHBOIII1... You are correct... My 95 has recieved close to $10k... We stayed away from the motor at first to avoid the stereotype American cars get of straight line go only (obviously not to say no money got to the motor thanks to the cintrafugal supercharger and others).. And I agree with u... Love the car when it's done well, hate the owner when they manage to fuck up a cool car (like a ricer).. I'd say the talon is done well I'm just trying to weed out the uneducated which u are not..
@bighunt08 Yea exactly every single friday i meet with all kinds of car at the track so i kind of know whats up with mostly all 4cyl,v6,v8 guys we shared info and we learn about each other we dont get there and start making fun off whos slower or who has the smallest engine or none of that we keep respect for eachother and thats what i always try of course theres always going to be the fastfurious kid who all they know its talk trash and when its time they back out with excuses!
@RICHBOIII1... Good Man!.. It doesn't matter if it's a 1.6 in a del sol or a 2.0 in a cobalt... If it has a motor and u race it then you have given you're homage to the god of speed and should be respected... It's the ones with the excuses that I hunt here...
look i agree with everone else the dsm's are the way to go i have a few buddys who cna eat vetts alive and i even have a buddy u can keep up with a evo fully modded and my buddy dsm is not the modded... and i got a buddy who owns a gsx that eats vipers alive and wait till i upload that vid
@6spdred94vette45 , don't be mad juz cuz you're jealous of the DSM owners cuz you got a chevy an not a real car an if you wanna talk REAL muscle then get a Dodge as far as DSM's go i'd put a fully tuned an modded DSM against ANY car out there (to poster good race man an keep up the good work on the car thus far)
Thats the standerd hilly billy response you would expect to see from a video like this, 6spdRed94Vette45 theres no need to get mad, 2 old cars raced and the best one, i like vette's as much as the next guy but they are not realy thats great, the ZR1 is the only exception, but we all know both you and i are far to poor to buy one.
seriously, if your still running a vette from those days your poor. it's 2010 and who cares. performance is performance and if your working on your own car, installing the parts yourself then why you complaining. v8 vs 4 bangers has been beat to death. to each their own
@Z28inNC not every has 5000 like that though man i worked and saved up for a long time to buy a lt1 camaro its in my vids if you wanna see.. i didnt even keep it for that long i know one day ill have some nice cars but not now im still a teenager and c4s arent slow i know theyre alot slower than a c6zo6 but that doesnt make it slow
@red1999gsx i like the way you look at it. hell im in to 4 cylinders and V8's both. there are advantages to both of them. and honestly if you have a car your passionate about and like to work on then who gives a damn what it is. have fun with it.
@red1999gsx Really? So what if someone has a Ferrari 360 Spider in his garage, next to a Corvette "from those days". Does your "your poor" comment still have validity? Or can it be that someone happens to like the Vette from "those days"? Just a hypothetical question.
wow man you talk about dsm being a "poor mans car" when your the one with a fuckin 94 corvette, ugly ittle barbie doll car. hmhm, the only vettes i would actually show respect to are 60's or 2002 and up..you know cars that actually hold value hmmm maybe your the poor one which cant afford one of the good ones? i think so.
wow..... dude you couldnt beat me with a 14b turbo if your life depended on it i dont understand were a 200 thousand miles comes from but the only turbo car i know that can with stand that many miles with a turbo would be a vr4 oh by the way v8 ALL THE WAY!! PS: Fuck your 4 bangers
You put edelbrock 52mm throttle body reprogammer chip full catback slp exhaust slp headers with a edelbrock GM performance Lt4 head kit you hit high 11s with around little over 3000's and thats all N/A better than a turbo puts less heat internal on the engine making it last better and more efficiently run better no lag also
Y argue about this shit I've done a 13.2 wit a stock talon jus 16g turbo in this body style talon I now have a 42r bout to go on my 91 awd. I've seen vettes beat talons I've seen talons beat vettes so FUCKIN wat its all about money n driver
Your car is a poor mans performance machine why don't you get a real job make some real money and get a corvette if you want performance or a mustang you piece shit ricer cause that engine wont last pass 100thousand just wasting time and gas on the POS that probley cost you 1000 for the car and couple hundred for the ricer parts stupid matchbox car
And that 'stupid matchbox car' with 'ricer parts' just smoked your vette? Why pay more for less performance? You obviously don't know anything about 1g DSMs if you think they can't last 100k :\
@6spdRed94Vette45 man dont even respond to those dudes. they wish they could be in a vette. These boys go modify shit, and cant wait to find a vette to race, knowing most vette owners dont even modify their timeless machines. THEY DONT EVEN WANT TO SEE A MODIFIED VETTE
you talk shit but yet that talon whooped that corvette and that talon owner also has about 10k less spent on his car...hmm i wonder if you realize that the average life of a well built and well maintained talon is about 250 - 300k miles hell i own a 2g 1995 eclipse turbo and its the first dsm ive owned with under 180k miles
your just angry because that talon beat your favorite car.....now grow a penis and grow up
@brown16knigit yes i could stomp your wannabe mitsu i got headers full exhaust i easily push 350hp my 6spd would jump you off the line then the top end would just rape your 4 banging cheaply made dsm after that 4 banger blows a head trying to pushing 15psi lol
@6spdRed94Vette45 wow your an idiot just shut up, agreed with brown16knigit take your measly 350 whp and shove it up your ass...a dsm with a small 14b can easily push what your car pushes and that one of the smallest turbos are out there for dsm's, DSM FTW
@6spdRed94Vette45 your vet only pushs 350hp thats pretty weak bro to breg about in the first place my 1g gsx has more then that and how can u possible say dsm is shit i own a 62 vet superchared, 90 GSX, and a 88 supra and the gsx is the best deal great daily driver fucking awsome on gas very sporty you can drive it all year round with all wheel drive gets u in and out of traffic quick so im sorry but you do fail sir
isn't the panels made diffrent from the 80s to 90's cause my has that fiberglass shit on it i have 94 vette plus you can tell thats 80's by the rear end 90's have the flat 80's have the arch
It's the C3 actually, I think...C4 was the early to late 90's model with the more rounded off trun lip. The last year for the vette in this video was 1991 or 92. It's the slowest corvette EVER made. Seriously, it is. It was slower than the model before it AND after it.
I was almost shure it had to be at least from 1984-1986, you can tell from the door panels, the mirrors, the bumpers, and the two tone paint. I have one :)
He is right, the C4 Corvette motors "burn up" too easy without hardly any stress. The correct figure is 235hp & 295t I know because I own one and am an aviation electrician NASA electrician. The Corvette is better. The white smoke is the driver over pressuring his intake which is the pinging & knocking you hear. He has bad valve seals, more then likely his front cam seals or his rear main seal/s.
chinhido2 1 month ago
@bushguts1 I'm literally laughing my ass off at that comment. So succinct, so true.
It is good to see American cars worth a damn again, though; I'd even consider owning one of the new Mustang GT's if it was in my price range. Meantime, I love my 2G Talon.
Violetcrime 3 months ago
1g means first generation. 90-94. DSM means diamond star motors for those that dont know
fwd95gst 4 months ago
I had a white 92' Talon, loved that thing :) Didn't race with it or soup it up, did put it through its paces a few times though... Got it mostly for the AWD which I actually needed, got me home in some bad storms!
DigitalHaze65536 5 months ago
i miss my 1g 91 gs-t, we rebuilt the 4g63 and it was a nasty beast!! Only problem was it wouldnt hook up because it was FWD!! nice talon! Its obviously a 92-94 based on the headlights and taillights, wheels are nice too, are thos Rays?
Btownbrown30 5 months ago
damn idk why everybody is bashing on the c4...the dsm had various mods vs a i assume stock c4...dont get me wrong that dsm is quick but the c4 are not SLOW cars as everyone says. i dnt push my c4 hard alot but ive taken out a 95 240 sx,89 mild modded iroc, and bmw 540i(believe it or not) if thats the one with the v8, and some random h22 prelude
Hugo350R 6 months ago
Looks like an L98 equipped C4, around 245-250 HP/340ish TQ.
Those motors die out around the 5k RPM range, maybe less...
VetteAholicZ06 7 months ago
Firstly, the DSMs are made here in Normal, IL, but it is an import in that it's a tiny car made by a Japanese company (it's pretty much a 2 door Galant). Second, the C4 vettes aren't all that since they had rather anemic engines and can be bought for as little as 5-6k in decent shape nowdays. Third, Eagle was one of remnants of AMC, the most famous of which is Jeep.
elsydeon666 7 months ago
c4's are an abomination.
1871bismarck 7 months ago
wow sadly a car worth less then 2k, just smashed on a 10k corvette haha...
dastallion420951 8 months ago
great race
4gclipseGT 8 months ago
woow - the Vette C4 was nearly as fast off the line as the AWD DSM. seems like a RWD car with good weight ditribution is the way to go. nice vid and thanks for uploading
3O2MuStAnG 8 months ago
I wish people would stop calling DSMs "Imports".
DSM = Made in USA
Sure, the 4G's a Jap motor, but . . .
BoDeanLP 9 months ago
Dude turn off that chainsaw I cant hear the cars!! Oh wait.....:-P
Just raggin on the import good race though!
Stevethepirate8973 9 months ago
Just wait till the dsm gets launch control and more boossssssssssssssssssst
thetafour 10 months ago
Like alterchristopher said the newer Vettes didnt get fast till the LT1. But I think that if that Vette is auto (I couldnt tell lol) a high stall torque converter and shift kit would even the race out
steelcityracer1320 10 months ago
Please someone help me understand... I'm pretty much only into American made cars and the terminology behind them.. What is a "1G DSM"?
Colemode 10 months ago
1990-94 Eclipse/Talon/Laser.
They were produced in Illinois, actually.
brown16knigit 10 months ago 15
@brown16knigit Interesting tidbit... I'm gonna have to find out some more about "import" cars, then. Haha.
Colemode 10 months ago
@brown16knigit and galant vr4 ;)
iTzGODZiLLA 4 months ago
@brown16knigit correction 89-94 :)
DSM4Life
WigaWigaWoo 3 weeks ago
@Colemode a 1g dsm is a 1st generation eclipse there is 2g 3g and i think 4g now
dylankendall100 10 months ago
@Colemode dsm means diamond star motors and started production in 1990 starting with the car I have a Plymouth laser rs which only went on until 1994 when they discontinued it. they stopped the talon in 1998 but the eclipse hasnt stopped production. In 1999 they stopped putting the 4g63 motor in the eclipse and chenged it and now thats the motor thats in the lancer evo.
adsonfire1 9 months ago
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@Colemode dsm means diamond star motors and started production in 1990 starting with the car I have a Plymouth laser rs which only went on until 1994 when they discontinued it. they stopped the talon in 1998 but the eclipse hasnt stopped production. In 1999 they stopped putting the 4g63 motor in the eclipse and changed it some and now thats the motor thats in the lancer evo.
adsonfire1 9 months ago
@Colemode DSM is american.
holsetdsm91 8 months ago
@Colemode
Eagle is a mix of chrysler and mitsubishi which only lasted for about 8 years i believe 90-98.
Like Infiniti and Nissan and many others.
SuperBoostify 8 months ago
@Colemode 1rst generation (1g) eclipse , talon , laser, colt
Stevespeeze 8 months ago
@Colemode it means a first generation Diamond Star Motor which is a Talon, Eclipse or Laser all basically the same car
mikec81 7 months ago
You aren't poor if you have a C4 bro. Stereotypical much??? My dad owns a 95 zr1 that has 800hp.....soooo
My95stang1 11 months ago
nice dsm but if that c4 is stock it will only pull a 14.6ish in the 1/4 the base line vette's didnt start to get quick again till the lt1's in 92
alterchristopher 1 year ago
it was smoking more less cuz its getin more fuel then normal to run richer so it dont burn a valve or melt a piston and exc.."but i could be wrong to why that one in perticuliar is smoking...
breitz82 1 year ago
C4's are slow as fuck.
Z28inNC 1 year ago
@Z28inNC what the fuck do you drive?
bigenginesismythang 10 months ago
@bigenginesismythang Well, my illiterate friend, this depends on if I'm at the track, or cruising with the family,or driving to work. Track, a 383ci procharged 96Z28,hence the screen name. Cruising, a 383 carbed IROCZ, and I drive a base model G8(v6) as a daily driver.
Z28inNC 10 months ago
ooooh got him in 3rd lol
BrendelxD 1 year ago
If that C4 is stock there is no way that Eclipse is a 13 second car.
Piperporsche180944 1 year ago
@Piperporsche180944 C4 was more like a high 14 second even 15 second car.
JamesSS69RS 11 months ago
quick ass turbo talon!
Big8Dee 1 year ago
Anyone else notice the car on the left smoking the entire time?
Model192 1 year ago
@Model192
In case you didn't read the mod list, the car was untuned. It was running a bit rich.
brown16knigit 1 year ago 2
@Model192 rice was done?
2004svtterminator 1 year ago
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theFBIdude 9 months ago
@Model192 the dsm beats the fuck out of the corvettee
theFBIdude 9 months ago 3
@theFBIdude v8 killer.lol
adsonfire1 9 months ago
@Model192
There was no smoke in the second run except dsm smoking a c4.
xtra1234 2 months ago
DSM FTW
Ballsdeep061 1 year ago
does the vette have the junk crossfire injection?
sk8rj514 1 year ago
@sk8rj514
No.
brown16knigit 1 year ago
@brown16knigit thats a plus
sk8rj514 1 year ago
@sk8rj514... It's one of the older c4s... If it's close to stock it's pushin no more than 250 horses at best... Don't think it's an 84/85 though..
bighunt08 1 year ago
@bighunt08 gotcha just wondering not a huge vette dude i like them just dont know much about them beside the croos-fire injectoin is junk and the new zr1 is nasty fast!
sk8rj514 1 year ago
@IROCwarriorAMC88 I agree with you, I can respect any car that can beat me. as well as knowing each car has its strong and weak areas. One car can get spanked in the 1/4 and dominate in a canyon race.
Greasekind14 1 year ago
Oh and btw if that talon really is only a 13 sec talon (Which all u ricers exagerate anyway).. Then there's no way it's outrunning my stock 94 (300hp) vette or my 95 procharged (494hp) vette... Which I'm sure I spent less on than that dude with the mexitalon did his.. Who's gonna bitch first?
bighunt08 1 year ago
@bighunt08
This Talon was basically stock. The mods besides the exhaust weren't helping make more power, they are preparatory mods for when the boost gets cranked up.
brown16knigit 1 year ago
@bighunt08 haha, a stock turbo DSM could take your car. 14b's have gotten into the 11's/12's on hundreds if not thousands of cars, and into the 10's on more han 1 car also (though that is pretty far to push a little 14b turbo)
goodhart253 1 year ago
@goodhart253.. Which Vette of mine are u talkin about my stock one or the one I've put a little money into that actually outruns newer vettes...My stock Vette is out of shape and slow so a DSM prolly will outrun it with ease... If u try to run 10's on a stock motor like that you'll blow it up fast u idiot... Frankly I don't think u know what your talking about... Stick to spectating...
bighunt08 1 year ago
@bighunt08
Stock motor DSM's have been into the 10's for quite a while now. Go grow your mullet some more you hillbilly moron.
goodhart253 1 year ago
@goodhart253... What the fuck makes you think I'm a hillbilly... Do you even kno what a hillbilly is?.. No you don't obviously.. Were I'm from I'd be more likely to be in the kkk than to be a damn hillbilly but you don't seem to be much for history, education, reasoning, or the facts... But I guess for some people ignorance is bliss and arrogance is the word of the day...
bighunt08 1 year ago
@goodhart253 only way u can push a 14b like that if its ported.. the fuel management gots to be good and it gots to have a lsd trans.. even then i dont think will ever reach 11's...
reminiz1 1 year ago
@reminiz1
Why would you need an LSD trans if you're AWD?
The 14B on this Talon already has a 7cm turbine housing (as opposed to the stock 6cm), no need to port it.
brown16knigit 1 year ago
@brown16knigit I haven't seen or heard of a 10 sec 14b dsm on stock mods or even 11's.. plz idc if it gots a 7cm housing.. but if there is then had to b built..
reminiz1 1 year ago
@reminiz1
When did I ever say I could run 11s with a 14b?
All my last post was intended to do was call you out on your ignorance of DSMs.
brown16knigit 1 year ago
@brown16knigit ignorant??? Lmao.. plz I own many of there dsms, from 1g to 2g.. u need to stop being a internet reader and actually own and race one.. I'm just saying to u and richboi, that the times u are claiming in a quarter mile is not true on a stock motor with a 14b.. the only person who is ignorant is u.. stop tryin to b a internet mechanic when ur not..
reminiz1 1 year ago
@reminiz1 You're the one that said you need a LSD to run 11s.
That's my car in the video. I do own one...
brown16knigit 1 year ago
@brown16knigit YEAH ONE!!!!
reminiz1 1 year ago
Eh those are the slower c4s that push under 250hp.. Anyway why spend that much money on a talon... All u ricers get pissed wen somebody bashes your ricerockets... U kno u can't win without ur faggot turbos.. Bring on tha bitching u fuckn ricers u kno I'm right!. Which one of you will bitch first?!
bighunt08 1 year ago
@bighunt08 @bighunt08 LMAO look at you your the ricer! Do you have an idea of what the meaning ricer its? Because there its nothing rice about this DSM, any car can be riced out, faggot turbos? What would v8 do without turbos or superchargers at the track? Lose! Muscle guys are the first ones who dont think it twice to go turbo, anyways your problem its that your fustrated because little 4cyl like this little monster are spanking every type of car around the streets/tracks, but hate on it ricer!
RICHBOIII1 1 year ago
@RICHBOIII1 ...Oh god whatever u tuners will have to admit that a fourbanger is nothin without a turbo... I doubt I'd call myself a ricer when I don't drive an import... And u can bitch all u want I'm sorry... But you're not gonna be outrunning any properly built corvettes with your "Fast and Furious" Hondas and Talons without putting a lot of money into every part of that motor because the stock motor itself can't handle that kind of horsepower...
bighunt08 1 year ago
@bighunt08 stock 4g63 motors can handle upwards of 500hp. just get stronger head studs metal head gasket bigger turbo fuel pump injectors and a mild tune a dsm can run low 11s or mid to high 10s with no nos. and ive seen an acura rsx put down 320hp with out a turbo with less money than a vette is worth. try doing some research before you try being a smartass youtube mechanic
sk8rj514 1 year ago
@sk8rj514... As I said.. U guys will always say add a bigger turbo... Fuck the turbo... But you're not gettin anywere near 320 horses without a turbo or alot of cash... Sure head work and cam maybe... But no stock import engine like that is built to handle 500 horses reliably sorry ur wrong... Btw an 02 Zo6 can be had for around 18k
bighunt08 1 year ago
@bighunt08 yea i have less than 10k of work done to mine and ill be in the low 11s
sk8rj514 1 year ago
@bighunt08 Hahahah wtf you talking about? i could easily put down on stock block properly tune 410awhp without hurting my budget, plus if you really have a vette like you claim up there let me tell you that neither your 94 or 95 can keep up with a awd or fwd talon thats pushing that kind of power, i myself have raced older and newer z06 and even a regular model c6 with a 250 shot and have beat them by not cars, but trucks. Just keep respect for the import guys, like we respect v8 guys!
RICHBOIII1 1 year ago
@RICHBOIII1... Fuck what would we do without YouTube!... It's nice to bitch at somebody that actually knows what the hell they're talkin about!... my 95 Vette is runnin tens with drag radials cause the 494 horses are to the wheels... My dad has been drivin a Nismo Z for a year now and I'd trade my stock 94 for it in a heartbeat... I like tuners but thanks to those fuckn fast and furious movies you have to build them just right or you will be labeled a ricer... Don't rice em tune em!
bighunt08 1 year ago
@bighunt08 Your claiming 10sec on that vette, i would affirm without been scared to swear that you must have put alot of cash into that vettes traction and tune. Theres no way you can get near the low10s on the stock chassis unles we talking AWD. Anyways these is getting stupid cus you know your V8's and i know my 4Cyl's, my main point its that these talon its not riced out no way, i myself hate ricers but more then a DSM'er im a car guy and i keep respect for any cars on the road!
RICHBOIII1 1 year ago
@RICHBOIII1... You are correct... My 95 has recieved close to $10k... We stayed away from the motor at first to avoid the stereotype American cars get of straight line go only (obviously not to say no money got to the motor thanks to the cintrafugal supercharger and others).. And I agree with u... Love the car when it's done well, hate the owner when they manage to fuck up a cool car (like a ricer).. I'd say the talon is done well I'm just trying to weed out the uneducated which u are not..
bighunt08 1 year ago
@bighunt08 Yea exactly every single friday i meet with all kinds of car at the track so i kind of know whats up with mostly all 4cyl,v6,v8 guys we shared info and we learn about each other we dont get there and start making fun off whos slower or who has the smallest engine or none of that we keep respect for eachother and thats what i always try of course theres always going to be the fastfurious kid who all they know its talk trash and when its time they back out with excuses!
RICHBOIII1 1 year ago
@RICHBOIII1... Good Man!.. It doesn't matter if it's a 1.6 in a del sol or a 2.0 in a cobalt... If it has a motor and u race it then you have given you're homage to the god of speed and should be respected... It's the ones with the excuses that I hunt here...
bighunt08 1 year ago
Stupid... Pointless
bighunt08 1 year ago
look i agree with everone else the dsm's are the way to go i have a few buddys who cna eat vetts alive and i even have a buddy u can keep up with a evo fully modded and my buddy dsm is not the modded... and i got a buddy who owns a gsx that eats vipers alive and wait till i upload that vid
blondzer 1 year ago
can someone tell me how many horses a stock 4g63 pulls?
evilEAGLE94 1 year ago
@evilEAGLE94 1G or 2g?
RICHBOIII1 1 year ago
@6spdred94vette45 , don't be mad juz cuz you're jealous of the DSM owners cuz you got a chevy an not a real car an if you wanna talk REAL muscle then get a Dodge as far as DSM's go i'd put a fully tuned an modded DSM against ANY car out there (to poster good race man an keep up the good work on the car thus far)
ShadowSoldier83BK 1 year ago
the corvette not a posi?
jaunisaboss 1 year ago
@jaunisaboss
I'm actually not sure...I don't think he spun much.
I spun all 4 off the line a little bit, that might be what you are hearing.
brown16knigit 1 year ago
Thats the standerd hilly billy response you would expect to see from a video like this, 6spdRed94Vette45 theres no need to get mad, 2 old cars raced and the best one, i like vette's as much as the next guy but they are not realy thats great, the ZR1 is the only exception, but we all know both you and i are far to poor to buy one.
deathkricket123 1 year ago
This makes me miss my 93... : [
geemoney3333333 2 years ago
seriously, if your still running a vette from those days your poor. it's 2010 and who cares. performance is performance and if your working on your own car, installing the parts yourself then why you complaining. v8 vs 4 bangers has been beat to death. to each their own
red1999gsx 2 years ago 5
@red1999gsx how can you be poor and drive a vette? that sounds like something a spoiled 16 yr old would say
bigenginesismythang 10 months ago
@bigenginesismythang you can a late C3 or early C4 vette for under $5000.
Z28inNC 10 months ago
@Z28inNC not every has 5000 like that though man i worked and saved up for a long time to buy a lt1 camaro its in my vids if you wanna see.. i didnt even keep it for that long i know one day ill have some nice cars but not now im still a teenager and c4s arent slow i know theyre alot slower than a c6zo6 but that doesnt make it slow
bigenginesismythang 10 months ago
@red1999gsx i like the way you look at it. hell im in to 4 cylinders and V8's both. there are advantages to both of them. and honestly if you have a car your passionate about and like to work on then who gives a damn what it is. have fun with it.
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johntvette 4 months ago
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@red1999gsx Really? So what if someone has a Ferrari 360 Spider in his garage, next to a Corvette "from those days". Does your "your poor" comment still have validity? Or can it be that someone happens to like the Vette from "those days"? Just a hypothetical question.
And it should be "you're poor" btw.
johntvette 4 months ago
wow man you talk about dsm being a "poor mans car" when your the one with a fuckin 94 corvette, ugly ittle barbie doll car. hmhm, the only vettes i would actually show respect to are 60's or 2002 and up..you know cars that actually hold value hmmm maybe your the poor one which cant afford one of the good ones? i think so.
whstsi 2 years ago
wow..... dude you couldnt beat me with a 14b turbo if your life depended on it i dont understand were a 200 thousand miles comes from but the only turbo car i know that can with stand that many miles with a turbo would be a vr4 oh by the way v8 ALL THE WAY!! PS: Fuck your 4 bangers
6spdRed94Vette45 2 years ago
You put edelbrock 52mm throttle body reprogammer chip full catback slp exhaust slp headers with a edelbrock GM performance Lt4 head kit you hit high 11s with around little over 3000's and thats all N/A better than a turbo puts less heat internal on the engine making it last better and more efficiently run better no lag also
6spdRed94Vette45 2 years ago
Y argue about this shit I've done a 13.2 wit a stock talon jus 16g turbo in this body style talon I now have a 42r bout to go on my 91 awd. I've seen vettes beat talons I've seen talons beat vettes so FUCKIN wat its all about money n driver
mikeyhobbs1 2 years ago
Your car is a poor mans performance machine why don't you get a real job make some real money and get a corvette if you want performance or a mustang you piece shit ricer cause that engine wont last pass 100thousand just wasting time and gas on the POS that probley cost you 1000 for the car and couple hundred for the ricer parts stupid matchbox car
6spdRed94Vette45 2 years ago
@6spdRed94Vette45
I'm in college, so I don't have a huge income yet.
My engine already has over 130,000 miles no problem. 4G63s last over 200,000 miles all the time.
It cost $3500.
You sir, don't know much about anything it seems.
brown16knigit 2 years ago 2
@ 6spdRed
And that 'stupid matchbox car' with 'ricer parts' just smoked your vette? Why pay more for less performance? You obviously don't know anything about 1g DSMs if you think they can't last 100k :\
lethaldose564 2 years ago
@6spdRed94Vette45 HEADERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wooooooo doggy that thing must fly
lsdTSifwd 1 year ago
@6spdRed94Vette45 get any turbo eclipse with little mods...anyone of your choice...and youll get your fucking ass smoked...i bet you
SWATKIID 1 year ago
@6spdRed94Vette45 man dont even respond to those dudes. they wish they could be in a vette. These boys go modify shit, and cant wait to find a vette to race, knowing most vette owners dont even modify their timeless machines. THEY DONT EVEN WANT TO SEE A MODIFIED VETTE
criscblue11 1 year ago
@6spdRed94Vette45 your just upset it only takes 1000 dollars to beat your vette :)
quadracer86250 1 year ago
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@6spdRed94Vette45 your just upset it only takes 1000 dollars to beat your vette :)
quadracer86250 1 year ago
@6spdRed94Vette45
you talk shit but yet that talon whooped that corvette and that talon owner also has about 10k less spent on his car...hmm i wonder if you realize that the average life of a well built and well maintained talon is about 250 - 300k miles hell i own a 2g 1995 eclipse turbo and its the first dsm ive owned with under 180k miles
your just angry because that talon beat your favorite car.....now grow a penis and grow up
diaryofthedead 1 year ago
@6spdRed94Vette45 if you build it you can have 700hp no problem in a dsm watch evo videos buddy! DSM FOR LIFE
BoOsTFeRLiFeSRT4DSM 1 year ago
@brown16knigit yes i could stomp your wannabe mitsu i got headers full exhaust i easily push 350hp my 6spd would jump you off the line then the top end would just rape your 4 banging cheaply made dsm after that 4 banger blows a head trying to pushing 15psi lol
6spdRed94Vette45 2 years ago
@6spdRed94Vette45
LOLOLOL
You're talking shit and only have 350 horsepower???!!?!?!??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Check your facts, buddy, these 4-bangers can push 5-600hp on the stock internals, and more than twice that with a built motor.
brown16knigit 2 years ago
@6spdRed94Vette45 wow your an idiot just shut up, agreed with brown16knigit take your measly 350 whp and shove it up your ass...a dsm with a small 14b can easily push what your car pushes and that one of the smallest turbos are out there for dsm's, DSM FTW
whstsi 2 years ago
@6spdRed94Vette45
You're not very smart, are you?
peter94e 1 year ago
@6spdRed94Vette45 your vet only pushs 350hp thats pretty weak bro to breg about in the first place my 1g gsx has more then that and how can u possible say dsm is shit i own a 62 vet superchared, 90 GSX, and a 88 supra and the gsx is the best deal great daily driver fucking awsome on gas very sporty you can drive it all year round with all wheel drive gets u in and out of traffic quick so im sorry but you do fail sir
Lurpedninja 1 year ago
i think the talons looks better i like the tail
lights
MZPURDYPUSSI 2 years ago
poor corvette and its junk l98 would have been a diff story with a lt1
hellsdeadjuggalo 2 years ago
Man i line up with that car and let that rice wannabe mitsu peace shit vs my Lt1 and see if he can keep up with his tiny inline4 turbo
6spdRed94Vette45 2 years ago
Corvettes are for people with small dicks. DSM requires a real set of nuts.
cmspaz 2 years ago
your retarded... he said mid 13's with the dsm.. pretty much what a stock lt1 can run if you drive the shit out of it...
My buddy went 12.004 @ 115mph with the stock 14b turbo...
ls1maro99 2 years ago
@ls1maro99
I'm shooting for 12s this summer. In the video it wasn't even tuned, and running on low boost.
brown16knigit 2 years ago
I was just making a point that mid 13's even for a basically stock 1g is slow...
ls1maro99 2 years ago
@ls1maro99
The car's only as fast as it is.
Mid 13s isn't slow for a 14b at 16psi...
brown16knigit 2 years ago
I suppose not but that can be achieved witth a mbc...
ls1maro99 2 years ago
I never said my car was fast.
Just raced my buddy's Corvette for fun.
brown16knigit 2 years ago
@6spdRed94Vette45
So my car's a wannabe mitsu? Ok.
I would certainly hope you could beat my car at the time; it was untuned, and running only 15 psi.
brown16knigit 2 years ago
why dont you line up with my "rice wannabe mitsu peace of shit" and throw down a grand to back up that whopping v8 mouth of urs......
lilfabolous1471 2 years ago
lol +1 on the driver mod, nice car too
ojaiTSI 2 years ago
Come on man thats an 84-89 vette!.
Those make like 230hp or less.
vfIskullangel 2 years ago
DSM ftw!!!!!!!!!!!
evileagle92 2 years ago
When the turbo spins the bullshit ends....
1DjDelta 2 years ago
Some faggot on dsmtalk has that quote. What a coincidence.
Shadowschool 2 years ago
probably because I took it from his sig
1DjDelta 2 years ago
lmao!
gpage718 2 years ago
love seeing dsm's kill vettes.
1gtsiawd 2 years ago
isn't the panels made diffrent from the 80s to 90's cause my has that fiberglass shit on it i have 94 vette plus you can tell thats 80's by the rear end 90's have the flat 80's have the arch
6spdRed94Vette45 2 years ago
That's a L98 car.
Painful, painful engine that was for the vette.
steeltwo 2 years ago
that list of mods needs to be bigger... then redo it! also put stuff in the vette
Trimillionaire 2 years ago
what year is the vette.
fffffaaaaaaaarrttttt 2 years ago
It's the C3 actually, I think...C4 was the early to late 90's model with the more rounded off trun lip. The last year for the vette in this video was 1991 or 92. It's the slowest corvette EVER made. Seriously, it is. It was slower than the model before it AND after it.
amirecan 2 years ago
Nope, you're wrong.
It's a C4. This particular Vette is a 1985 automatic. They 14.1 1/4 mile stock, much faster than the late C3 models.
The Vette in the video runs 14 flat.
brown16knigit 2 years ago
I was almost shure it had to be at least from 1984-1986, you can tell from the door panels, the mirrors, the bumpers, and the two tone paint. I have one :)
fffffaaaaaaaarrttttt 2 years ago
damn...that dsm sounds good!
braceyoself777 2 years ago