If only I was half as good like you with Young Link >.< I need to learn how to SHFFL ! Tho edgehogging isnt my thing, I like my kills clean and something to say "In yo' face"
master the way dash its the first and forced step to be a pro, i can tell, im not a pro, but i know ppl who is, except for some link i saw a time ago on a rep, all pros play with wave dash, im trying to master it but its not easy, at least for me
You can use Jigglypuff's Final Smash in a gap of the Bride of Eldin stage, and when the ship comes to repair the bridge, whatever size Jigglypuff is will stay when the bridge is done repairing. She gains immense range because she is so big. There are other glitches too, like the infinite jumps over ground with Bowser and Kirby.
I would call hacking punching in a combination and growing giant with a hacking program, not something easily accessable to every person.
I use "advance techniques" but they're not quite advanced techniques, they're glitches and they should be removed in any and all forms, theyre not intended int he game and shouldn't be played with them in the game (that makes me a hypocrite)
You are referring to WaveDash, which is the only(maybe) advanced technique that is even close to being a glitch. The other techniques ARE advanced techniques.
They're not intended to be in the game, otherwise known as a glitch. No one wants to look at THEIR baby for criticism, this game is my baby and I do just that. I hate glitches, I might be a good advance technique user, but I hate glitches.
agree with you 100%...even on the smash dojo site it says 'there are some adv techniques that we dont mention in the instruction booklet' meaning that just because its not in the ib or the how2play vid doesnt mean it wasnt "intended 2b n the game" or a glitch
Ledgehop isn't a glitch, shuffle is a glitch man, L cancel is a glitch, it's not intended in the game, and tuber52 I love N power but fuck N power, they didn't make SSBM, it's just a randoma ss magazine, it's not like shigeru miyamoto personal channels messages through them. Anyways glitches are glitches, show me a glitch in SSBB, exactly, where did the "advance techniques " go? They're fun and all on SSBM, SSBM is the glitch game SSBB is the real shit though, raw skill
There are many things that weren't intended to be in the game. You say that people should play it the way the creators want us to play it, and that means no techniques would be intended for the competitive players, which means they are all glitches?
If you generally state to show you a glitch, try the Jigglypuff glitch, which is an obvious exploit. Not all advanced techniques are glitches. There are so many techniques being created, SSBB is new, it wasn't out for 7 years.
What Jigglypuff glitch? Yea, you're right it has been out for 7 years, it's a growing thing, but regardless it's a glitch none the less. You would think I would be a person who can't do these glitches, because those are usually the sore losers and they bitch about them, but I'm actually a fairly decent player, and I still think, sure it's fun, but it's basically like hacking the game to do what it ISN'T supposed to be doing, why the hell do people think AT are intended in the game? They would
You can use Jiggly's Final Smash in the gap made by the bomb while they are repairing the broken bridge in The Bridge of Eldin Stage and whatever size Jigglypuff is when the bridge finishes, she stays that size. She doesn't gain extra power,but she has immense range in her attacks. And there's also other minor glitches for other characters that I don't want to explain xD
I would call hacking the game punching in a combination and growing giant or something.
Yea, but you're still using glitches, it's really fucking dumb, you simply can't expect to play with your little glitches, I also didn't know JP was in the new game, I wasn't sure. I'm just so fucking sick of people exposing every hair on nintendo's ballsack, just play the game the best you can, besides looking for every little cheating advantage you possibly can, that's what playing smash bros is all about
And I think it's fucking dumb that people only want to look at the game in their own enclosed perspective. People are all going to view the game differently, and there are the people who want to get technical and find whatever that CAN find. No matter if they are glitches or not, they are achievable and if it's possible and open for every person then it IS the best we can. You don't discover a hack, you create it. You don't create a glitch, you find it, that's the whole point.
Play the game the way it's supposed to be played, not using random ass glitches, basically my point being, practice hard. Not bullshit your way out of competition by looking for every little advantage besides your own skill. right?
There's no way that it's supposed to be played. We play the way we want to, and we DO practice hard. You're speaking as if wavedashing is the only thing than allows people to win. It may be random that it is discovered, but it has a use and it takes skill to use, it's not something you learn how to perfect in a second. It requires correct timing.
basically I just typed a long ass response, but my computer is fucking gay. All I'm trying to say is this. It takes practice, it's not easy but you can't call yourself the best realistically if you have to use glitches to be the best, it's kinda of like steroids for sports in it's own merits. You keep forgetting that I can do all of that too in SSBM, I'm speaking from a competition POV anyways I'm done with this argument, it was fun but I can tell we won't change our views
Exactly, but it's not hurting anyone to express it. Wavedashing is a glitch, but unlike steroids in sports, it's not illegal, and any person willing to use wavedashing can do it, unless they are missing an arm or something... Just because something is a glitch, it doesn't become cheap or anything, it still takes time to learn and practice and knowing HOW and WHEN to use it.
it should be illegal, who says it ISN'T cheap? Some random ass organization called MLG doesn't count, I think Nintendo taking the glitches out alone is prove enough that they're not intended for play and it's cheating, so unless you wanna take it up against Nintendo, I think it's safe to say I got this victory under my belt. FALCCCCCONNN PUAAAANCH!
It should be illegal, just because some bullshit organization MLG thinks it can be used in play doesn't mean they're the fucking gods of SSBM rulings. I think prove enough that they're cheating is the fact Nintendo REMOVED them from the game. Unless you wanna take this up with Nintendo (in case you didn't know, they kinda made or something, I never heard of Nintendo (sarcasm incase you're a bad sarcasm detector) I think it's safe to say I got this victory under my belt buddy FALCON PUAAANCHHH!!
Illegal... It isn't cheap because no official ruling said it WAS. I never referred to this MLG crap, and I don't even know what it is. MY opinion is that it's not cheap, and so do the people who actually use it and know HOW to. If people want to sit there and not use Wavedashing to their advantage and call it cheap because they don't have the decency to learn themselves, that's their problem.
Glitches are signatures to their corresponding game. It's pretty impossible to reproduce something that's not intended. Nintendo never stated that they wanted it out. Besides, many people, including me, love the new air dodge. Maybe it's just more appealing to players, maybe it was to remove wavedashing, who knows? Not us.
Why would Nintendo exploit their own glitches? Nintendo never mentioned missingno and M from the pokemon games, it's a VERY huge glitch, just like how we're talking about, but I'll be damned if someone found him these days. I never knew there were ANY official rulings in the first place, but if there was I'm sure they would kinda of say no glitches? I personally think they put in the new airdodge simply because if you dodged in the old game you moved and becausem unable to come back.
The wouldn't exploit their own glitches. But that's not the point, it's that they would not ever TRY to make it appear again in Brawl, so you can't really say they took it out because they "removed" it in Brawl, as it was never really there in the first place. I'm pretty sure that we've established whether it's a glitch or not, but whether it is cheap or not... yeah.
The game has new mechanics too, I'm sure that they probably weren't in there to begin with, they probably didn't even have to budge a finger regardless. ok you're right, I give you that, they never took them out because they never put them in, so yea that makes sense. I also think that the new air dodge is simply because in the old game you would die and fall to the ground. We did establish they were glitches, sorry I got a bit off topic, but how is using a glitch NOT cheap? besides "skill"
Look, wavedashing being a glitch or not, it doesn't matter. It was a part of the game, intentionally or unintentionally, it doesn't matter. As long as it's part of the game, you can use it to your advantage. There is such thing as cheap, but the makers of the game put it in the game, so people can use wavedashing however they like. Cheapness can be used to people's advantages in these games.
Don't get me wrong, it does take skill to use them. I play a game called Combat Arms now, it's a FPS. There's a glitch where you can go behind walls and shoot through them, since that's in the game should it be able to be used?
Also, blackhole IS a glitch but it's also unesscary (excuse the poor grammar) fucking around with the inner workings, whoever discovered the BH glitch is a fucking psychopath, besides that's hardly a usable glitch, try to pull it off in a match, on the reverse wavedash is very easy to do. I'm simply saying play the game how the creators want. They want you to have funa nd all but not at the expense of their hard work. It's harder to be the best at the most simple task too.
uhhh wavedashing isnt a glitch cause i clearly remember some nintendo related magazine talking about how to use wavedashing and some other advance techniques therefore they are intended in the game. plus i think it was also in the first smash so i think they wouldve fixed it by now if it was a glitch
So, how would you react if they got rid of the glitches in melee like wave dashing, L canceling and what ever high level players in this game use in SS brawl?
No it doesn't what? L-canceling removes the afterhand lag of aerial attacks when characters touch the ground. If you press L/R when, let's say, Link, hits the ground with his downward thrust attack, he pulls out his sword faster than letting him just hit the ground.
How you guys play like that is beyond me... I can still lose lives when I'm fighting a lvl 9 Ganondorf, I bet that if Wak ever fights a lvl 9 Ganondorf, he won't even get hurt.
i could never be that good with ganondorf. i need a faster character because otherwise my timing would get screwed up...come to think of it, my timing is always screwed up xD
If you practice with Ganon, he's a lot faster than you think. And even then, you can make him faster with L-Cancels, J-Cancels, teching, basically anything makes him SO much faster.
Chester is noob ??? Nowait.. he can kick your ass man..
Hey wak je suis sure que je vous pas les 2 ensembles MEME les yeux fermer LOL.. Lol joke.. merde je suis entrain dapprende a mon ylink a être bon hehe.. mais je suis toujours meuilleur avec link.. LOL.. et ma mla fermer et ma me contente de t'avoir deja battu une fois.. lol.. sur combien.. LOL
If only I was half as good like you with Young Link >.< I need to learn how to SHFFL ! Tho edgehogging isnt my thing, I like my kills clean and something to say "In yo' face"
legend1149 6 months ago
lol, 1:06 to 1:08 matches the beat of the music. awesome.
anihilatorX 1 year ago
best young link user i have ever seen
denny826lee 1 year ago
good job wak you fucking owned him!
AND I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD DO GANON B-DOWN AND THEN DOUBLE JUMP AGAIN THAT IS SICK!
markymark443 2 years ago 3
Yep :) Same with Cpt. Falcon as well
NinjaNagashima 2 years ago
ahaha Edgegarding !!!
TheDogdogdogcat 2 years ago
Well a lot of the AHTP techs showed up, so it gives us a practical view of what he tells us.
littleryry2005 2 years ago
Wak be all wavedancin' n shit
Blazeyes123 2 years ago 4
master the way dash its the first and forced step to be a pro, i can tell, im not a pro, but i know ppl who is, except for some link i saw a time ago on a rep, all pros play with wave dash, im trying to master it but its not easy, at least for me
frosecold 2 years ago
actually, l-canceling separates the noobs from the pros.
KayC2SLO 2 years ago 7
truth indeed
frosecold 2 years ago
the wave dash is not a glitch! please think! its a combination!
kefkiroth 3 years ago
what song is this? you listen to some nice soothing music that gets my brain pumping haha
theuppercut 3 years ago
omg shut up who cares if their glitches if evry 1 uses it then its fair rite? so go learn how to them
waz355 3 years ago
You can use Jigglypuff's Final Smash in a gap of the Bride of Eldin stage, and when the ship comes to repair the bridge, whatever size Jigglypuff is will stay when the bridge is done repairing. She gains immense range because she is so big. There are other glitches too, like the infinite jumps over ground with Bowser and Kirby.
I would call hacking punching in a combination and growing giant with a hacking program, not something easily accessable to every person.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
Nice, and I think that young link is way better than ganondorf.
Derekre4 4 years ago
I use "advance techniques" but they're not quite advanced techniques, they're glitches and they should be removed in any and all forms, theyre not intended int he game and shouldn't be played with them in the game (that makes me a hypocrite)
Maj0ra 4 years ago
You are referring to WaveDash, which is the only(maybe) advanced technique that is even close to being a glitch. The other techniques ARE advanced techniques.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago 2
They're not intended to be in the game, otherwise known as a glitch. No one wants to look at THEIR baby for criticism, this game is my baby and I do just that. I hate glitches, I might be a good advance technique user, but I hate glitches.
Maj0ra 4 years ago
A Ledgehop is a glitch? A Shffl is a glitch? What I call a glitch is the black hole glitch.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago 5
agree with you 100%...even on the smash dojo site it says 'there are some adv techniques that we dont mention in the instruction booklet' meaning that just because its not in the ib or the how2play vid doesnt mean it wasnt "intended 2b n the game" or a glitch
DLatezT 4 years ago 3
Ledgehop isn't a glitch, shuffle is a glitch man, L cancel is a glitch, it's not intended in the game, and tuber52 I love N power but fuck N power, they didn't make SSBM, it's just a randoma ss magazine, it's not like shigeru miyamoto personal channels messages through them. Anyways glitches are glitches, show me a glitch in SSBB, exactly, where did the "advance techniques " go? They're fun and all on SSBM, SSBM is the glitch game SSBB is the real shit though, raw skill
Maj0ra 4 years ago
There are many things that weren't intended to be in the game. You say that people should play it the way the creators want us to play it, and that means no techniques would be intended for the competitive players, which means they are all glitches?
If you generally state to show you a glitch, try the Jigglypuff glitch, which is an obvious exploit. Not all advanced techniques are glitches. There are so many techniques being created, SSBB is new, it wasn't out for 7 years.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
What Jigglypuff glitch? Yea, you're right it has been out for 7 years, it's a growing thing, but regardless it's a glitch none the less. You would think I would be a person who can't do these glitches, because those are usually the sore losers and they bitch about them, but I'm actually a fairly decent player, and I still think, sure it's fun, but it's basically like hacking the game to do what it ISN'T supposed to be doing, why the hell do people think AT are intended in the game? They would
Maj0ra 4 years ago
be in the how to play opening, with Mario and Bowser
Maj0ra 4 years ago
You can use Jiggly's Final Smash in the gap made by the bomb while they are repairing the broken bridge in The Bridge of Eldin Stage and whatever size Jigglypuff is when the bridge finishes, she stays that size. She doesn't gain extra power,but she has immense range in her attacks. And there's also other minor glitches for other characters that I don't want to explain xD
I would call hacking the game punching in a combination and growing giant or something.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
Yea, but you're still using glitches, it's really fucking dumb, you simply can't expect to play with your little glitches, I also didn't know JP was in the new game, I wasn't sure. I'm just so fucking sick of people exposing every hair on nintendo's ballsack, just play the game the best you can, besides looking for every little cheating advantage you possibly can, that's what playing smash bros is all about
Maj0ra 4 years ago
And I think it's fucking dumb that people only want to look at the game in their own enclosed perspective. People are all going to view the game differently, and there are the people who want to get technical and find whatever that CAN find. No matter if they are glitches or not, they are achievable and if it's possible and open for every person then it IS the best we can. You don't discover a hack, you create it. You don't create a glitch, you find it, that's the whole point.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
Play the game the way it's supposed to be played, not using random ass glitches, basically my point being, practice hard. Not bullshit your way out of competition by looking for every little advantage besides your own skill. right?
Maj0ra 4 years ago
There's no way that it's supposed to be played. We play the way we want to, and we DO practice hard. You're speaking as if wavedashing is the only thing than allows people to win. It may be random that it is discovered, but it has a use and it takes skill to use, it's not something you learn how to perfect in a second. It requires correct timing.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
basically I just typed a long ass response, but my computer is fucking gay. All I'm trying to say is this. It takes practice, it's not easy but you can't call yourself the best realistically if you have to use glitches to be the best, it's kinda of like steroids for sports in it's own merits. You keep forgetting that I can do all of that too in SSBM, I'm speaking from a competition POV anyways I'm done with this argument, it was fun but I can tell we won't change our views
Maj0ra 4 years ago
Exactly, but it's not hurting anyone to express it. Wavedashing is a glitch, but unlike steroids in sports, it's not illegal, and any person willing to use wavedashing can do it, unless they are missing an arm or something... Just because something is a glitch, it doesn't become cheap or anything, it still takes time to learn and practice and knowing HOW and WHEN to use it.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
it should be illegal, who says it ISN'T cheap? Some random ass organization called MLG doesn't count, I think Nintendo taking the glitches out alone is prove enough that they're not intended for play and it's cheating, so unless you wanna take it up against Nintendo, I think it's safe to say I got this victory under my belt. FALCCCCCONNN PUAAAANCH!
Maj0ra 4 years ago
It should be illegal, just because some bullshit organization MLG thinks it can be used in play doesn't mean they're the fucking gods of SSBM rulings. I think prove enough that they're cheating is the fact Nintendo REMOVED them from the game. Unless you wanna take this up with Nintendo (in case you didn't know, they kinda made or something, I never heard of Nintendo (sarcasm incase you're a bad sarcasm detector) I think it's safe to say I got this victory under my belt buddy FALCON PUAAANCHHH!!
Maj0ra 4 years ago
Illegal... It isn't cheap because no official ruling said it WAS. I never referred to this MLG crap, and I don't even know what it is. MY opinion is that it's not cheap, and so do the people who actually use it and know HOW to. If people want to sit there and not use Wavedashing to their advantage and call it cheap because they don't have the decency to learn themselves, that's their problem.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
Glitches are signatures to their corresponding game. It's pretty impossible to reproduce something that's not intended. Nintendo never stated that they wanted it out. Besides, many people, including me, love the new air dodge. Maybe it's just more appealing to players, maybe it was to remove wavedashing, who knows? Not us.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
Why would Nintendo exploit their own glitches? Nintendo never mentioned missingno and M from the pokemon games, it's a VERY huge glitch, just like how we're talking about, but I'll be damned if someone found him these days. I never knew there were ANY official rulings in the first place, but if there was I'm sure they would kinda of say no glitches? I personally think they put in the new airdodge simply because if you dodged in the old game you moved and becausem unable to come back.
Maj0ra 4 years ago
The wouldn't exploit their own glitches. But that's not the point, it's that they would not ever TRY to make it appear again in Brawl, so you can't really say they took it out because they "removed" it in Brawl, as it was never really there in the first place. I'm pretty sure that we've established whether it's a glitch or not, but whether it is cheap or not... yeah.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
The game has new mechanics too, I'm sure that they probably weren't in there to begin with, they probably didn't even have to budge a finger regardless. ok you're right, I give you that, they never took them out because they never put them in, so yea that makes sense. I also think that the new air dodge is simply because in the old game you would die and fall to the ground. We did establish they were glitches, sorry I got a bit off topic, but how is using a glitch NOT cheap? besides "skill"
Maj0ra 3 years ago
they are not glitches
kefkiroth 3 years ago
the l cancel wasnt iliegal it was a programed trick
kefkiroth 3 years ago 2
Look, wavedashing being a glitch or not, it doesn't matter. It was a part of the game, intentionally or unintentionally, it doesn't matter. As long as it's part of the game, you can use it to your advantage. There is such thing as cheap, but the makers of the game put it in the game, so people can use wavedashing however they like. Cheapness can be used to people's advantages in these games.
DiagonalHorizon 3 years ago
Don't get me wrong, it does take skill to use them. I play a game called Combat Arms now, it's a FPS. There's a glitch where you can go behind walls and shoot through them, since that's in the game should it be able to be used?
Maj0ra 3 years ago
wavedash doesnt seem broken at all.
grassinigrassini 3 years ago
u can do that in counter strike except its not a glitch
MesenkoHadow 3 years ago
talkin bout' FPS on a video of SSBM is BAD
rexona2412 3 years ago 9
Also, blackhole IS a glitch but it's also unesscary (excuse the poor grammar) fucking around with the inner workings, whoever discovered the BH glitch is a fucking psychopath, besides that's hardly a usable glitch, try to pull it off in a match, on the reverse wavedash is very easy to do. I'm simply saying play the game how the creators want. They want you to have funa nd all but not at the expense of their hard work. It's harder to be the best at the most simple task too.
Maj0ra 4 years ago
The whole point is that the game is ours. We don't need to follow the guidelines of one "normal" way to play a game, we have fun the way we want to.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
uhhh wavedashing isnt a glitch cause i clearly remember some nintendo related magazine talking about how to use wavedashing and some other advance techniques therefore they are intended in the game. plus i think it was also in the first smash so i think they wouldve fixed it by now if it was a glitch
tuber52 4 years ago
It wasn't in the first, they didn't have air dodging.
elizarelizarelizar 4 years ago
oh right my bad, but i clearly remember it being mentioned in a nintendo magazine
tuber52 3 years ago
So, how would you react if they got rid of the glitches in melee like wave dashing, L canceling and what ever high level players in this game use in SS brawl?
Dragonslayer9 4 years ago
With anger
javitr91 4 years ago
i would react with violence and anger
PartiallyDigested 4 years ago
O.O
Dragonslayer9 4 years ago
commit suicide! :X
mohaab 4 years ago
And rage
elizarelizarelizar 4 years ago
L-Canceling isn't a glitch.
It was in Smash 64 in the form of Z-Canceling.
I wouldn't mind if "glitches" were removed. There's plenty of depth in the game to begin with.
KameKasu 4 years ago
Just wanna point out it's not called L-Canceling because of the button you push, it really just means Lag-Cancel.
elizarelizarelizar 4 years ago
You could say L cancel but it mainly means L shoulder button, it could be called R cancel too, I use the R button anyways
Maj0ra 4 years ago
The L stands for Lag, because it removes the lag.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
Oh well who cares.
Maj0ra 4 years ago
No it doesn't.
elizarelizarelizar 4 years ago
No it doesn't what? L-canceling removes the afterhand lag of aerial attacks when characters touch the ground. If you press L/R when, let's say, Link, hits the ground with his downward thrust attack, he pulls out his sword faster than letting him just hit the ground.
PearledWaveS 4 years ago
Haha sorry, What the button stands for, it's lag cancel. I know what it does do though. XP
elizarelizarelizar 4 years ago
Best Y Link I've seen, if you ask me
CHubas7 4 years ago
how can u get this world? i bought ssbm a week ago and i already got i think 29 worlds but i dont have this one...
LoccnGangsta 4 years ago
finish break the target with all 25 characters
kracykik 4 years ago
thanks
LoccnGangsta 4 years ago
you must be a hard worker to get it all that quick...
then again i didn
t use any help so it took me awhile :P
NightmareShadowPure 4 years ago
lol i little late buying the game huh?
PartiallyDigested 4 years ago
no cuz its an awsome game :DDDDDD
anonymouslyso 4 years ago
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you guys are idiots, the song is nice
pop shit is for idiots
beatles??? loool
piece of crap if you ask me
gr8ape 4 years ago
koolvidkid58 you should try versing 3 level 9 characters all one one team against you.
Xolus317 4 years ago 2
nasty ylink!
MozzarellaGuru 4 years ago
and i thinked that i was good...snif oh and thanks for the guide "how to play" it really kicks asses
darkkyo97 4 years ago
How you guys play like that is beyond me... I can still lose lives when I'm fighting a lvl 9 Ganondorf, I bet that if Wak ever fights a lvl 9 Ganondorf, he won't even get hurt.
koolvidkid58 4 years ago
nice, i want to fight you
mico7077 4 years ago
the utter awesome that is that young link.
slisenberger 4 years ago
fucking techno......
yo wakko, i love your vids and you are obv. awesome, but ever heard of a little thing called beatles? or steviewonder? perhaps jazz? fusion jazz?
laesperanzapaz 4 years ago
i could never be that good with ganondorf. i need a faster character because otherwise my timing would get screwed up...come to think of it, my timing is always screwed up xD
Wyoming3552 5 years ago
If you practice with Ganon, he's a lot faster than you think. And even then, you can make him faster with L-Cancels, J-Cancels, teching, basically anything makes him SO much faster.
elizarelizarelizar 4 years ago
i've never seen anyone use y-link so skillful. Good job Wak. Chet, u got a good ganon. keep it up guys!!
Cloud9fortified 5 years ago
Chester is noob ??? Nowait.. he can kick your ass man..
Hey wak je suis sure que je vous pas les 2 ensembles MEME les yeux fermer LOL.. Lol joke.. merde je suis entrain dapprende a mon ylink a être bon hehe.. mais je suis toujours meuilleur avec link.. LOL.. et ma mla fermer et ma me contente de t'avoir deja battu une fois.. lol.. sur combien.. LOL
post69 5 years ago
yay, yet another proof of that ylink is a good choice!
That's good shit, Wak!
123Shine 5 years ago
tha y link is nice
koollord 5 years ago
Chester is a noob.... Wak ur y-link is scurry
Volasko 5 years ago
every 1 check out volasko vids and look whos he is callen a noob
kingj521 5 years ago