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  • Everywhere I look on YouTube I find these arguments, a is better than b etc. Why can't people understand that music is so subjective that agreement is impossible. It isn't just a question of personal taste either, the human ear is not an oscilloscope registering pure frequencies, we all hear things slightly differently and so a tone that appeals to my ear will grate on your nerves and vice versa. Why can't we all just like what we like and allow others to like what they like?

  • im sorry they are sining in a completerly different style than wicked and i think it is awesome that they are not competetive over it abd this is just mind blowing

  • They`re BOTH chuffin FANTASTIC in their own way ! Neither is better than the other in my opinion!

  • I think they're both amazing but I will always prefer Idina because she was such an amazing Elphaba! Her voice is a lot more distinctive than Kerry's.

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  • kerrys voice is better ,but she is a bad actress

  • Kerry is the better singer, but Idina is, and always will be, Elpheba.

  • I love idina but she was seriously outshone by the breathtaking kerry ellis

  • Idina.....the only beef I have with her and her fans is that she's always "sick", but she may legitimately have been sick during this performance.

    On the whole, Kerry's tone and delivery is much more listenable. Their voices don't really go together. Idina by herself in a studio version would be good, and the same with Kerry. But this is a little forced pairing. And whoever cast this concert....they should know that their tones don't go very well together.

  • I love how Idina adds a "g" to the words "never" and "know" - it doesn't belong. Is she faking it? Can someone explain?

    Also, when she says "wasn''he fiiine" like a suburban, uneducated minority?

    Can someone help?

  • Who cares who has the better voice. I think they both have beautiful voices and could not out sing us , Kerry just sings in a different style. I don't think it makes her better.

  • that was one wicked performance.

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  • Sorry Idina but you've just been outshone by the o so magnificent Kerry Ellis.

  • Every time I hear music from 'Chess', I am astounded that such lovely and memorable music cale from, what I think was/is a not so great, musical. The music is so moving, so personal, so present, but the show itself, left me flat; in London, NY, Sydney, I saw it 3 times, it left me humming the tunes, but forgetting the characters and story. Only song which to really dislike, is the one that made it to #1, 'One Night in Bangkok'! Menzel is great as is Ellis. Great rendition of original.

  • i love this version so much! i looove kerry's voice!

  • no matter who has the better voice, idina is, and will always be, the best elphaba

  • This is one of my all time favourite songs from a musical. Having heard probably every possible version, i have to say that eventhough both these singers have great voices, it's not my favourite rendition. For me it just felt as if they were singing "at" eachother rather than with eachother (if you know what i mean). It's still in my top 5 though.

  • i have watched every version of this song from steps to whitney houstin to elaine paige to SUBO ... and this one is my favourite!

  • OMG MY TWO FAVORITE STAGE ACTRESSES SINGING TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone pinch me I must be dreaming!!!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Two brilliant performers and both very beautiful. I enjoyed this musical more than any other - All the actors/singers were first class. It's just a same they only had two performances.

  • They both have different singing voices, different, yet both good in there own way :)

  • I sang this song with a friend at the International Thespian Convention in Texas years ago. It brings back fond memories. I LOVE Idina Menzel SO much, and I don't know much about Kerry Ellis, but I think the song is just better suited for Kerry's vocal tone. It's not "who can sing it better" Like, it would be weird for Kerry to sing "Take Me or Leave Me" from RENT because that's not her tone, ya know? Overall, beautiful piece. How funny that to Elphies got to work together!

  • Beautiful... simply beautiful!

  • let me just say something noone seems to ba able to say they both look GORGEOUS

  • Kerry has a richer, more even tone than Idina, which is why people seem to think she sounds better. And maybe she does. But both have very special voices. I love this combo!

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  • Well, terrible is a bit strong.

  • i love idina menzel in wicked and same with kerry, but I think kerry really has a much stronger voice and vocal tone.

  • this rocks, but i think i like kerry better

  • sick..... idina sounds terrible.

  • I can't tell who is better. I love Idina y Kerry is just amazing. They are both so amazing... I wish I could sing like them lol

  • Hmm - Idina's getting ahead of the beat...

  • Hmm, i have been lucky enough to see them both live in a few things but i have to say this is the first time i have heard them side by side, and surprisingly i think Kerry Ellis has the superior voice. It surprises me that i say that aswell. I LOVE Kerry Ellis but i just always thought Seperately that Idina Menzel had the better voice, i think i was wrong. I think Idina Menzel benefits from a little studio fix on her voice, only a bit. Kerry just doesn't need it. Love em both though

  • why is it surprising kerry has the better voice? that is why she has such a huge fanbase, i think idina is talented but hers is based more on the fact she originated maureen in rent and elphaba in wicked

  • i agree. Kerry is the best x

  • i think Kerry is the best hey voice is louder and i think shes the best

  • I love them both <3

  • Ahh, Kerry. How I adore you.

  • Learn from them!! Like a dog and a cat playing together. To all the assholes that compares them all the time!

  • When is this coming out on DVD?

  • It's out on DVD now.

  • I don't think it's fair to say one singer is "better" than another singer. Yes, the basics have to be there like good musicality, pitch, tone, but after a certain point when you start comparing award-winning popular singers, they're all just different singers and it comes down to personal preference. Yes, Idina had a bit of an off-night, but she shouldn't be judged based on just this video. Overall, they're both excellent singers and performers

  • Idina didn't have an off night. She was one of the reasons why Chess at the Royal Albert was a huge success.

  • good try but julia murney and sutton foster own this song.

  • If anyone owns this particular song it would have to be Elaine Paige and Barbara Dickson

  • without a doubt

  • I prefer the julia and sutton version too. They sing together better. Idina and Kerry together doesn't quite work.

  • oh my gosh. what TALENTED ladies!!!! so beautiful, inside and out. love it.  fantastic song.

  • I think they both sound beautiful.

  • come on guys please don't bicker like this. They are both extremely talented artists, every performer has a bad night and yes many die-hard fans need to learn that their focus of obsetion is capable of faults without blaming it on equipment. They are BOTH incredible, get over it

  • I love Kerry so much! She is simply phenomenal!!!

    and to all you haters, yeah, maybe Idina was a little flat in this video, but you don't have to waste your life on telling everyone that she sucks, because she doesn't. cut it out.

  • LMAO have you seen yourself you look like a 60 year old woman LOOOOL maybe if you didn't waste your life telling us what to do you'd have time to sort yourself out

  • yeah, I have seen myself. and no i don't look like a 60 year old women and even if I did u wouldn't know that because you've never seen me, and even if you have seen my videos, I DO NOT look like a 60 year old. honestly, i hate talking like this to people on youtube, and I was just trying to tell everyone that these two women are amazing and maybe you shouldn't make fun of Idina just because maybe she was having a bad night. I don't like fighting over youtube, but that's my true, honest opinion.

  • Ya people definitely need to get the DVD for the true portrayal of Idina's voice. She does not scream... the song required that she hits a high note with alot of power.

    If the roles were switched Kerry would be screaming too. As for the rare difficulties she has sometimes- we see those because of how much stuff she has done. If Kerry was in nearly as many productions of shows as Idina is, we would see her screw up too. In the DVD, you can hear Idina over Kerry every single song theyre both in

  • Kerry doesn't scream, she sings effortlessly. That's because for the dvd they turned up idina's volume and autotuned her LOL

  • yes idina has warner bros vocal editing skills to thank, unfortunately she still sounds bad on the dvd and the strain is obvious on her face

  • True portrayal of Idina's voice? I didn't know having your voice edited was a true portrayal!

  • kerry wouldn't scream, she can actually sing notes without straining like hell

  • Sorry, I usually don't like fighting over youtube, but you can tell that Idina Menzel's microphone is turned up more than Kerry Ellis's. I'm not saying who is better and who isn't, it could just be that Kerry Ellis's style is louder than Idina Menzel's.

  • Idina is very flat almost this entire song... way to go

  • I agree Idina was flat on several notes in THIS video. This was taken on the 1st nite of the show. If you get the DVD she is pitch perfect on almost of it, and you can tell the notes she missed on the 1st nite she made sure to hit on the 2nd nite. She was much, much better the 2nd nite. Granted, Kerry still sounded better, and the roles should have probably been reversed. I'm not arguing that

  • She's pitch perfect on the dvd because they autotuned her to hell, it's really obvious at some points

  • wow, i just cannot stand idina menzel in this. why would they use her for this role???

  • Y use Idina for this role ? Let's c International Star, big voice, Tony Award, movie roles. and this DVD is going to be marketed (and most units sold) in the US. They need American Stars. Besides, b4 this show was was recorded, who knew Kerry Eliis was going to make Idina look bad that night ? Idina has had vocal problems in the past, and apparently had them on this night(s) as well. By the time Kerry is Idina's age, she will have vocal problems too. They both belt.

  • you know who else belts? a lotta better people then idina menzel:

    -eden espinosa, julia murney, natalie weiss, sutton foster, carolee carmelo, stephanie j. block, kerry ellis, karen olivo, lea solanga, sherie rene scott, lea michele, lauren kennedy, amy spranger, audra mcdonald

    yeahh lots of better people

  • No because unlike Idina she doesn't scream notes, she actually belts.

  • big voice LOL hence kerry overpowered her with little trouble

  • i love both these actresses !!!! they were both in Wicked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(My favourite musical EVER!!!!!) but Kerry is obviously better !!!)

    Kerry will be missed in the Apollo Victoria theatre!!!

  • I just watched a performance of Daniel Boys and and John Barrowman performing this song, and I just had to watch it one more time.

    Both great performances!

  • I just watched the official DVD and at the end when they turn and face each other, kerry smiles at Idina and holds the look a little longer. It's the perfect end to the most fantastic duet I've heard in a long time.

  • BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ahh!! AMAZING, AMAZING, AMAZING!!!

    im absolutily in LOVE with idina, shes my favorite singer, actress, everything(:

    and there both ozmazing elphabas

    ..does this song remind anyone alse of ''im not that girl''?

  • I love that people come on here and dare to criticize either lady, as if any of you could come CLOSE to having that kind of talent. They are both great- end of story.

  • I was at both nights of Chess in Concert. I love Idina, but her phrasing is often a bit rushed. Of course she makes up for it with sheer power, but Kerry was actually better than Idina, being both powerful and a little more controlled.

  • I have to agree with you. I think Kerry is a more well rounded performer in control, stamina, tone, pitch...she's just awesome. I do love Idina though =)

  • wow....excellent blend. At the end it's just like one voice. This is how a duet should be done.

  • kerry, woop woop

  • <3 stunning.

  • Any one seen Sutton sing this? Pretty schweet too ;)

  • This is like my two idols singing a lovely song :D

  • Not a patch on Elaine paige and Barbara Dickson!!!!

  • Presumably it's Idina singing first, then Kerry? I can't see their faces, so I'm guessing by voice and hair colour - it that right?

  • yes

  • wow. i would give anything to sing how they can!!

  • tune up idina honey

  • I'm a huge Kerry and don't usually like Idina but I thought Idina was stunning in this, singing and acting! She really shocked me. Loved kerry as well!!!

  • Idina is aweomse!

  • not my favorite Idina performance, but their voices blend so marvelously together. Kerry warmer tone with Idina's kind of pointy sound really sound great together. who knew???

  • "she just stood awkwardly with her hands in her pockets for most of the show"

    You really think that was Idina?? It's called characterisation you dumbass. Lack of power? haha Idina is a Broadway powerhouse what are you talking about?? This is far from Idinas best role to date (that's between Maureen, Kate or Elphaba) but she wasn't bad; just miscast. She would have been better as Svetlana.

  • well said Daniel. This song required almost no acting. Goshh. Can't u people just like them both and STOP starting all these Idina, Kerry, Shoshana wars?

  • I don't know if I'd agree that it required no acting but I thought it was appropriately acted. Acting doesn't always require moving all over.

    Also - I think that people are forgetting that this was meant to be a concert setting that was not a FULL OUT production.

    Bravo to both Idina and Kerry - love them both!

  • I said almost no acting though. lol. This is a very smooth, yet strong song. She doesn't just stand there awkwardly like omglolwhatever said. They show most of the acting by swaying and in their facial expressions right?

  • Actually it's called bad direction. Stop being such a fangirl and making excuses and learn to admit when someone isn't that great.

  • I agree i love both kerry and idina. there talented in really different ways but they are both so amazing. shoshana's awesome as well.

    it's a shame so many people can't appreciate talent, without saying someone is better.

  • Idina is pregnant!! :D

  • WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! really how do you know??

    omg!!!! she'll finally have her little choclatey babies! lol

  • well her and Taye are all over the celebrity tabloids lol

  • i think that idina is stronger than kerry here. and maybe her timing sounds out, as maybe that is the way she chose to sing it to make the song her own :)

  • you think idina is stronger

    yet kerry's voice overpowers hers whenever they harmonise

    oh dear xx

  • yeah totally agree.  Kerry is totally better in this

  • i dnt agree

  • It's sad that some people listen to vocal volume so closely instead of studying a fine acting performance.

  • I think you may be misunderstanding the meaning of the word "overpowering" in relation to vocal performance, it does not really mean volume but its strength, clarity, diction, tune, timbre, power, emotion and of course acting. So when the people above said that Kerry's voice was overpowering they did in fact include Kerry's fine acting performance as well as Idinas acting performance (note the lack of "fine") when they said Kerry's performance overpowered Idinas.

  • The two very greatest Elphabas!

  • i dont really think they can be compared as their voices are really different. i love them both equally and they are both my idols.

  • MY TWO BEST ELPHABA'SS!!!!!!!!!

  • I think that kerry's a better singer...i know Idina does have an amazing voice but she doesn't have the same control and tonal quality as Kerry.

  • Is it just me or is Indina's timing a bit out in some bars?? :S

  • yeah it is! probably blown away by Kerry

  • I saw this (both nights :)). It was amazing!

  • Oh my God..My two favourite women in Musical Theatre on stage singing together! Wish I could have seen that!

  • i disagree i think idina is stronger here.

  • I love them both, but in my opinion, Kerry Blows Idina out of the water here =)

  • i must agree. i think i actually like kerry more in general. but they are truly both wonderful =)

  • yes i agree!! kerry's voice just has a quality here that idina doesn't have!!

  • i agree, idina sounds abit shakey :/

  • this is amazing, thanks for posting

    both are so talented

  • I Heart Idina but how come she sings so...fast here?

  • thats what i thought!! but..i love both kerry and idina!! They are both amazing! i love listening to them!!

  • history in the making here :]

  • both amazing, kerry [yyyyyyy]

  • I really enjoyed Sutton Foster and Julia Murney's version a bit more. I prefer the darker voice to contrast a bit more.

    That, and Idina's voice never quite did it for me. It always grated my nerves a little. That said, I can respect her as a performer, but given the choice, I'd take the Foster/Murney combo first.

    Thanks for posting this.

  • lol, how not fair to Kerry. Kerry, Sutton and Julia are gifted singers. Idina...well...y'know. Of course anyone would prefer Sutton/Julia pairing over this.

  • i totally agree!

  • The two best singers I have ever heard together... Hopefully this stops all the stupid arguments about who is better!

  • Yeah My 2 Favourite Elphabas singing together they have such good voice connection between them go kerry and idina i love you both.

  • my two favorites also. =D

  • This is really good. Beautiful. I do love it. But I have to say, for me, you can't top Barbara Dixon and Elaine Paige.

  • Wow this was beautiful! They both have such a beautiful voice!

  • great i love them both idinas better but kerrys growing on me!!!

  • i know i first loved idina.. but know i think kerry is :p

    she grew on more loadssssssss

  • This...is..awesome!!!!! They are amzing!!! If only it was a trio of them and Stehpanie J. Block than this would be complete!!!!

  • wow what an amazing combination...Kerry Ellis and Idina Menzel...omg!

    was good...i thought they might try to out do each other a bit cuz i know idina is a wee tad snobbish in person...but it was good! not as good as other performances ive seen from these two individually but...yeah x

  • WOW

    i couldn't wish for a better combination!

    Kerry is still my favourite tho =]

    x

  • really idina seems so sweet as a person...have u met her?

  • the tall person who sang this in the film is from my town!!! (there's hope for me yet)

  • I prefer Julia and Sutton's version. I like it with the high belting.

  • i agree i'm from the uk 2 and i always feel proud that a west end actress can make it on broadway but i love idina 2 they both rock xx

  • OMG! this is so good, love to c my 2 favourite Elphabas, but what show is this may i ask?

  • This is from the musical CHESS. They did a concert and the DVD is avaliable in 2009- cant wait!!!

  • is it idina and kerry in the dvd

  • yes it is or at least on the one coming out in december

  • do you know that it is coming out in december on dvd? i thought it was coming out in 2009

  • the greatest elphabas UNITE!

  • The Elphaba's unite!

    LOVE Idina

  • 4s quite alot lol

  • I didn't really like Idina in Wicked but here she is AMAZING!!!

    Even so, Kerry is AMAZING! She's consistently amazing and is one only 4 actresses who have ever made me cry with their performances.

  • omg Idinaaaaaaa!! you rock!

  • wow. perfect. amazing.

  • I don't usually like Idina but put her with Kerry and I lovee it.

  • I thought Idina and Kerry BOTH did a great job.

    Leave Idina alone, im British and i love Idina! I think she rocks!

    Love Kerry as well. It is ok to like them both you know, there not Wicked rivals or anything.

  • i dont like idina's I KNOW HIM SO WELL b4 kerry starts singing =S but otherwise AMAZIN

  • idina has some really flat moments though....

  • I Dont Like this song!

    But when these 2 sing it...OH MY GOD...Its amazing!

  • i love them both..but poor idinas voice was really damaged from belting out wicked with bad technique i think kerry REALLY SHINES HERE!!! YA GO GIRLLLLL XXX

  • This Is What Happens When Elphies Clash... Sweet Sweet Music

    I Hope They Relise This On An Album Or Something

    XX Matty XX

  • couldnt have said it any better :)

  • This is brilliant! I wish I was in the audience!

  • Wow, that was amazing! I can't stop listening to this and everytime i do i get goosebumps!!! The best 2 Elphies ever on stage together!! Can't wait to watch the whole thing on DVD!!

  • kerry ellis's voice is much more powerful than idinas.

    i love them both but FUCKING HELL KERRY IS AMAZING!!

  • They should release this on dvd like they did with Les Mis.

  • did they release a dvd with kerry of les mis?

  • thank you so much for uploading