wow! even animals are smarter than- stupid gay&lesbi ,you will never see two male or two famale animal to live together, only stupid-stupid gay&lesbi live together
Expand your mind, take a moment and realize the vastness of this world. BANG it just happened. To believe that you would have to have more faith than it takes to believe in a higher power..
Leave the historic meaning of marriage where it has always been?
Okay, women should be treated as property. Marriages should be arranged by parents, not based on what the participants want. People with different skin colors shouldn't get married. And don't even think about getting divorced.
That's what marriage meant 100-300 years ago. For those advocating tradition, read a history book. Unless you advocate for everything in the preceding paragraph, don't use "history" as an argument.
i would say to you that the cage of women has just changed form, women are treated much as objects as ever, most greatly- the fertility of women has been under attack, the "pill" is oppressive
quite frankly, the contraceptive mentality is the reason why we are even having a debate over homosexual "unions" and the like
The one thing this society is missing is Logic, plain and simple there is no logic at all within our society. My point is so simple there is no right or wrong answer, its an infinite amount of answers that causes you (the reader) to think and examine life in general because a great mind once said, "the unexamined life is not worthing living,"(socrates)...yes on 8 by the way=)
This is fantastic! It illustrates just how ignorant the "yes" on prop 8 voters are...I couldn't have made a better video myself mocking your side of the issue...ok well I did make a better video, but still. Thanks for just reiterating the point!
I'm a christian and I think this is absurd? Comparing Gay marriage to two plugs is an irrelevant argument! Its more like a puzzle piece no matter what color, race or religion you are you just gotta find the right fit for you. Get smart people, say no to discrimination.
Unfortunately, you're right. People are often "dumb" and mis-informed religiously. RELIGIOUS people, on the other hand, are often quite intelligent, given the natural marriage of faith and reason.
No, roommates don't get married. Domestic partnerships aren't marriage. If they were, there would be no debate and no amendment, since domestic partnerships are already legal in California.
Secondly, who said anything about the Bible? The question is whether gay men and women should be allowed to wed in California.
Procreation was beneficial in the old days since children were considered assets since they could work (or be sold into slavery). However, in the modern day, they are economically considered liabilities. Thus marriage has always been primarily an economic and legal arrangement.
"Thus marriage has always been primarily an economic and legal arrangement".
Um, no. This would mean roommates sharing a house could get 'married', or brothers and sisters, or more than one man to a woman or vice versa. Marriage is much more than a formulaic legal or economic arrangement. It's the foundation of the family, which in turn is the foundation of society. That's why people are fighting to protect it.
Roommates sharing a house do get married. It's called a domestic partnership. And it doesn't really make economic sense for brothers and sisters to get married. It is a simple fact that the primary reason people have gotten married is for economic reasons.
Who are you to say that a family with same sex parents is in any way inferior to a traditional one? The Bible suggests that a polygamist family is the norm, so should we legalize polygamy?
That is an easy one. Up until about a century ago, kids were assets, not liabilities like they are today. The more kids you had, the more workers you had to plow the fields, milk the cows, bring in the harvest, etc. Then when the industrial age came into full swing, people began moving to cities for work and more kids meant more people to work in the factories. It wasn't until child labor laws that kids began to become liabilities. Kids used to be very economic.
what about like passing family names or ...legacys i think children played a big part in that,i guess that would go some where in the (work/ be sold into slavery)
I can't imagine in what class this might be acceptable, but firstly gay and lesbian men and women can and do have meaning ful relationships what 'work' quite well for them and will continue to work even as proposition 8 threatens to impose the religious views of some upon others under a law that less and less respects a separation of church and state.
Bro this has nothing to do with religion. I don't know why everyone has to jump to that conclusion. And secondly it is America isn't it why wouldn't it be acceptable? You can make a video promoting gay marriage, right? Why is it wrong in this country to hold my own view on this and make a video, after all colleges are American institutions right?
By the way the reason why I don't believe gays should get married is because there is no logical point. It is purely a phycological one. Marriage gives couples certain benefits because they start families right? You say they love each other right?
Anyway I think it's you who are imposing on me saying my freedom of speech and freedom of religion is not acceptable. Shame on you.
I merely wanted to show my view. Furthermore I did this in less than a day for a class assignment that had to be a PSA. What religion do they impose on gays. No one says they have to get married or they can't do that. I don't believe in it so I don't want it to be a law that two guys can get married. What about an old man wanting to marry a 17 year old? If he says he loves him and I say that's wrong that shouldn't be legal are you going to say that I am imposing?
So you have a compelling non-religious objection to same sexed marriages? If their is no point to a marriage without children what about couples who choose not to have them or are infertile? Should we revoke their marriages? Legally marriage has never been restricted only to heterosexual couples who have children so the objection doesn't hold water. Additionally, an old man wanting to marry a child is unrelated. Lastly, criticism is not infringement on free speech.
Yes, just like I have a compelling non-religious objection to polygamous "marriages" or pedephilic "marriages". Don't say those are unrelated - the issue is who should be able to marry whom. The sexes complement and complete each other, and they alone can form the foundation of strong families, giving rise to a strong culture. Kids get things from a mommy and a daddy that they just can't get from a daddy and a daddy.
It will down the road cause our kids and us to become confused about what marriage is and what our sexuality is about. Fundamentally our reproductive organs are just that reproductive organs right? Of course I don't think sex is just limited to that.
Alright also once gay marriage is legal what's next then what else? Most likely over the years our country will become like ancient Greece in terms of our sexuality.
We will become a country like them of many boy lovers and unfaithful marriages raising the rate of broken homes and raising the crime rate and ultimately destroying our country much like every other civilization that goes down that road. Do you want more?
As you pointed out, you do have every right to make this video. But that doesn't make your video any good, and others have the right to criticize the arguments you make in your video.
I personally think it's kind of funny, that the the music adds a lot, and I understand the point you're trying to make.
But I still think your arguments are just plain stupid. Gay sex works just fine, thank you very much. You'll just have to trust me on this one. :) People have been having gay sex for eons.
You said Jmaas15 that there is "no logical point" to getting married. How about this? Getting married protects not only me and my husband, but also my kids, my property, etc. Did you know that there are over 1,400 specific legal rights that come with being married? Hospital visitation rights, health insurance, legal custody of adopted children, and inheritance rights are only a few examples of legal rights that come with marriage. Seems logical to me.
Clearly you are not from Ca where the proposition is located or you are completely ignorant of your rights as domestic partners. Prop 8 in NO way affects any of these specific legal rights. HOWEVER these rights are ALREADY available to you. Get informed and exercise your rights. But leave the historic meaning of marriage to mean what it has always been.
That's true newlifelooks. I'm originally from Kansas and now live in New York. You're also correct to point out that a FRACTION of those 1,400 rights I'd mentioned are THEORETICALLY provided by domestic partnership status. However, there was a time when we thought that it would be OK to create separate but equal public schools, water fountains, and lunch counters in the United States. It didn't work.
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I could draw you a diagram showing otherwise.
JuanIII 1 year ago
Obviously someone is very confused about how gay sex works.
burgersnsoap 1 year ago 2
actually if you are trying to put your penis in another man's penis you're simply going about the process wrong.
Straight people have anal sex too.....why don't they get attacked by Crazy Religious nuts...???
and Many animals in the animal kingdom partake in homosexual actions.
please don't tell me its unnatural if it happens in nature.....
cosmosman 1 year ago
wow! even animals are smarter than- stupid gay&lesbi ,you will never see two male or two famale animal to live together, only stupid-stupid gay&lesbi live together
tundrayacut 2 years ago
you total fucking idiot.
rockyraccoon44 2 years ago
What an idiot xD
Mj31588 2 years ago
What a really stupid video, but it doesnt suprise me at all coming from this kind of people.
ch5342 2 years ago
wow what a dumb ass. and yes it does work.
HCOSocal7 3 years ago
Hilarious parody!
doctorpsycho1960 3 years ago
aside from the disturbing mental images that are possible, i find this rather simply eloquent
theycallmebreandan 3 years ago
well, for one, my God is the right God
God created the world out of love, he even showed us how to love by the way of the cross
God wants us to be happy, and yet he loves us so much that he gives us free will, so that we may choose to love him back
mind you, we are fallen men, not quite the way things God initially intended
theycallmebreandan 3 years ago
Expand your mind, take a moment and realize the vastness of this world. BANG it just happened. To believe that you would have to have more faith than it takes to believe in a higher power..
XxLivingSacraficexX 3 years ago
Did you even read what anyone wrote. Or do you just repeat what everyone has told you. Cuz i don't see any bible quotes.
I just quoted the book of Nature.
jmaas15 3 years ago
you're totally right at least I used so many bible verses in my arguments.
Furthermore at least I'm not a tool for the man.
What is it like not to have a heart must be hard to feel?
jmaas15 3 years ago
Obviously you have never had gay sex. Trust me, it works.
tokenfoil 3 years ago
no i haven't.
Obviously you've never had sex with a woman.
You know that actually the penis is supposed to go in the vagina not the asshole.
xxfillerxx 3 years ago
Actually I have had sex with a woman, and I can verify that you don't need a penis.
tokenfoil 3 years ago
actually, what you did was more like masturbating with someone else, which is completely different than having sex
theycallmebreandan 3 years ago
Leave the historic meaning of marriage where it has always been?
Okay, women should be treated as property. Marriages should be arranged by parents, not based on what the participants want. People with different skin colors shouldn't get married. And don't even think about getting divorced.
That's what marriage meant 100-300 years ago. For those advocating tradition, read a history book. Unless you advocate for everything in the preceding paragraph, don't use "history" as an argument.
gregprae 3 years ago 2
i would say to you that the cage of women has just changed form, women are treated much as objects as ever, most greatly- the fertility of women has been under attack, the "pill" is oppressive
quite frankly, the contraceptive mentality is the reason why we are even having a debate over homosexual "unions" and the like
theycallmebreandan 3 years ago
Are you kidding with this? Pretty Juvenile don't we think?
sfbriancl 3 years ago 4
This is by far the most ridiculous, simple-minded argument against homosexual relationships that I have EVER seen in my life.
If this is really how you define love (or even just sex for that matter), I say it's time for you to expand out of your quite isolated social circle.
bananaluvs 3 years ago
- and fuck a guy in the ass!!
xxfillerxx 3 years ago
Hell I think it's pretty funny. Especially because everyone is so riled up about it!
I guess it really did work!
jmaas15 3 years ago
The one thing this society is missing is Logic, plain and simple there is no logic at all within our society. My point is so simple there is no right or wrong answer, its an infinite amount of answers that causes you (the reader) to think and examine life in general because a great mind once said, "the unexamined life is not worthing living,"(socrates)...yes on 8 by the way=)
ascschs1411 3 years ago
Hate to Break to you Even if it passes it still be overturned like Prop 187 in 1994
ryukage99 3 years ago
It's okay! There's another opening in the back!
Winddrag0n 3 years ago 3
This is fantastic! It illustrates just how ignorant the "yes" on prop 8 voters are...I couldn't have made a better video myself mocking your side of the issue...ok well I did make a better video, but still. Thanks for just reiterating the point!
NinjaPoetry 3 years ago
I'm a christian and I think this is absurd? Comparing Gay marriage to two plugs is an irrelevant argument! Its more like a puzzle piece no matter what color, race or religion you are you just gotta find the right fit for you. Get smart people, say no to discrimination.
westnoca 3 years ago 7
thats fine I just dont want to pay for it and for something entirely religious to be decided by the courts.
Separation of church and state
Matt92126 3 years ago
OMG now i am beginning to understand why religiously people are so dumb.
jamaq 3 years ago
really why?
Matt92126 3 years ago
Unfortunately, you're right. People are often "dumb" and mis-informed religiously. RELIGIOUS people, on the other hand, are often quite intelligent, given the natural marriage of faith and reason.
Matt92126 3 years ago
rofl~great video!!
99minerkc 3 years ago
No, roommates don't get married. Domestic partnerships aren't marriage. If they were, there would be no debate and no amendment, since domestic partnerships are already legal in California.
Secondly, who said anything about the Bible? The question is whether gay men and women should be allowed to wed in California.
Matt92126 3 years ago
I think it's a great video. Simple and to the point. So simple even a child will understand.
jpcuMrsC 3 years ago
That argument is only valid if one believes the only purpose for marriage is procreation. Obviously, marriage exists for many other reasons.
solandcb 3 years ago 2
True, marriage exists for many other reasons. But procreation must be a part of it. If it is not, then all the love in the marriage doesn't matter.
timothybasil 3 years ago
That is absurd. For one, marriage has historically just been an economic institution uniting fortunes with land, titles, etc. Modern marriage has...
-permanent physical, emotional, and spiritual commitment
-legal, social, and economic stability and security
-contract to lower the probability that the couple will remain faithful to each other
-bringing together two people who are more successful together than either of which would be apart
-proven benefits to health and happiness
solandcb 3 years ago
Procreation was beneficial in the old days since children were considered assets since they could work (or be sold into slavery). However, in the modern day, they are economically considered liabilities. Thus marriage has always been primarily an economic and legal arrangement.
solandcb 3 years ago
"Thus marriage has always been primarily an economic and legal arrangement".
Um, no. This would mean roommates sharing a house could get 'married', or brothers and sisters, or more than one man to a woman or vice versa. Marriage is much more than a formulaic legal or economic arrangement. It's the foundation of the family, which in turn is the foundation of society. That's why people are fighting to protect it.
Matt92126 3 years ago
Roommates sharing a house do get married. It's called a domestic partnership. And it doesn't really make economic sense for brothers and sisters to get married. It is a simple fact that the primary reason people have gotten married is for economic reasons.
Who are you to say that a family with same sex parents is in any way inferior to a traditional one? The Bible suggests that a polygamist family is the norm, so should we legalize polygamy?
solandcb 3 years ago
then why do married people have kids... i dont see how that is economic...
xxfillerxx 3 years ago
That is an easy one. Up until about a century ago, kids were assets, not liabilities like they are today. The more kids you had, the more workers you had to plow the fields, milk the cows, bring in the harvest, etc. Then when the industrial age came into full swing, people began moving to cities for work and more kids meant more people to work in the factories. It wasn't until child labor laws that kids began to become liabilities. Kids used to be very economic.
solandcb 3 years ago
what about like passing family names or ...legacys i think children played a big part in that,i guess that would go some where in the (work/ be sold into slavery)
xxfillerxx 3 years ago
Correction..."increase" the probability that the couple will remain faithful to each other.
solandcb 3 years ago
Umm F! Not just because I disagree but because it was poorly done. It was only 30 seconds long and didn't make any argument much less a valid one.
mollholl3 3 years ago
It was supposed to be 30 seconds. By the way commercials are either 60 sec or 30 sec and so are PSA. This is a PSA done in less than one day.
jmaas15 3 years ago
I can't imagine in what class this might be acceptable, but firstly gay and lesbian men and women can and do have meaning ful relationships what 'work' quite well for them and will continue to work even as proposition 8 threatens to impose the religious views of some upon others under a law that less and less respects a separation of church and state.
SpeedyBruin 3 years ago
Bro this has nothing to do with religion. I don't know why everyone has to jump to that conclusion. And secondly it is America isn't it why wouldn't it be acceptable? You can make a video promoting gay marriage, right? Why is it wrong in this country to hold my own view on this and make a video, after all colleges are American institutions right?
jmaas15 3 years ago
By the way the reason why I don't believe gays should get married is because there is no logical point. It is purely a phycological one. Marriage gives couples certain benefits because they start families right? You say they love each other right?
Anyway I think it's you who are imposing on me saying my freedom of speech and freedom of religion is not acceptable. Shame on you.
jmaas15 3 years ago
I merely wanted to show my view. Furthermore I did this in less than a day for a class assignment that had to be a PSA. What religion do they impose on gays. No one says they have to get married or they can't do that. I don't believe in it so I don't want it to be a law that two guys can get married. What about an old man wanting to marry a 17 year old? If he says he loves him and I say that's wrong that shouldn't be legal are you going to say that I am imposing?
jmaas15 3 years ago
Finally I am a Catholic and I don't see anything wrong with that. That shouldn't influence the way you think about me?
jmaas15 3 years ago
So you have a compelling non-religious objection to same sexed marriages? If their is no point to a marriage without children what about couples who choose not to have them or are infertile? Should we revoke their marriages? Legally marriage has never been restricted only to heterosexual couples who have children so the objection doesn't hold water. Additionally, an old man wanting to marry a child is unrelated. Lastly, criticism is not infringement on free speech.
SpeedyBruin 3 years ago
Yes, just like I have a compelling non-religious objection to polygamous "marriages" or pedephilic "marriages". Don't say those are unrelated - the issue is who should be able to marry whom. The sexes complement and complete each other, and they alone can form the foundation of strong families, giving rise to a strong culture. Kids get things from a mommy and a daddy that they just can't get from a daddy and a daddy.
Matt92126 3 years ago
and the compelling objection is?
SpeedyBruin 3 years ago
It will down the road cause our kids and us to become confused about what marriage is and what our sexuality is about. Fundamentally our reproductive organs are just that reproductive organs right? Of course I don't think sex is just limited to that.
Alright also once gay marriage is legal what's next then what else? Most likely over the years our country will become like ancient Greece in terms of our sexuality.
jmaas15 3 years ago
We will become a country like them of many boy lovers and unfaithful marriages raising the rate of broken homes and raising the crime rate and ultimately destroying our country much like every other civilization that goes down that road. Do you want more?
jmaas15 3 years ago
of course religion has something to do with it. I know I said nothing but you know what I mean
jmaas15 3 years ago
Yes homosexual marriages have always been illegal that's why they are trying to make it legal.
jmaas15 3 years ago
As you pointed out, you do have every right to make this video. But that doesn't make your video any good, and others have the right to criticize the arguments you make in your video.
I personally think it's kind of funny, that the the music adds a lot, and I understand the point you're trying to make.
But I still think your arguments are just plain stupid. Gay sex works just fine, thank you very much. You'll just have to trust me on this one. :) People have been having gay sex for eons.
tpetdoctor 3 years ago
Continuing...
You said Jmaas15 that there is "no logical point" to getting married. How about this? Getting married protects not only me and my husband, but also my kids, my property, etc. Did you know that there are over 1,400 specific legal rights that come with being married? Hospital visitation rights, health insurance, legal custody of adopted children, and inheritance rights are only a few examples of legal rights that come with marriage. Seems logical to me.
tpetdoctor 3 years ago
Clearly you are not from Ca where the proposition is located or you are completely ignorant of your rights as domestic partners. Prop 8 in NO way affects any of these specific legal rights. HOWEVER these rights are ALREADY available to you. Get informed and exercise your rights. But leave the historic meaning of marriage to mean what it has always been.
newlifelooks 3 years ago
That's true newlifelooks. I'm originally from Kansas and now live in New York. You're also correct to point out that a FRACTION of those 1,400 rights I'd mentioned are THEORETICALLY provided by domestic partnership status. However, there was a time when we thought that it would be OK to create separate but equal public schools, water fountains, and lunch counters in the United States. It didn't work.
tpetdoctor 3 years ago 2