That's right. He was basically fighting with one arm. Hardly threw any right hands at all. Luckily he was fighting a starstruck and glass-chinned Ludwig.
ramon dekkers is one of my favorite muay thai fighters.I mean have you seen his punches and his lo-kicks fast and hard.not so much cobos but if he kick then he really hurt his enemy
i remember a ludwig fight many years ago in los angleas where he beat and retired a local sensation ? named bryan popjeoy ..i think is was both of there pro fights..
ludwig is not a feemur level technician in the least ..
@535manbearpig yeah well that's no wonder since he hadn't fought in 4 years (he retired in 2001). And when you get older, you usually have to adjust your style, most fighters can't keep up the aggresiveness that Ramon displayed in his glory days. But even with that said, he still defeated Bang pretty easily (even with one arm). So I guess he didn't need the aggresiveness in this fight.
@535manbearpig wiki Qoute " A few days before the fight Dekker injured himself, tearing a ligament in his right shoulder. The entire fight he punched only with his left arm, so he could not even setup his famous boxing combinations. Nevertheless Dekker knocked Ludwig down in every round, and won the fight by decision " Pretty cool i reckon, which also adds to the fact why he wasn't so as agressive in this fight.
numbnuts i doubt he could have put ludwig down at anytime, if u know your fighters and about fighting then u'd know that bang ludwig isnt a push over.
nice knockdown dekkers is a good fighter i want to se him fight wich serkan yilmaz it wood be a very good fight serkan lost witch ludwik but it wasent by a knockout just and off time
Sorry, but if this guy is king, he should have kept this guy down in the first round... ludwig had a predictable offence/defence but was trying to find an opening.. dekker found ludwigs opening and never used it to keep him down. This was a biased fight look at them.. no way they are in the same fighting catagory ludwig is clearly the lighter dekker could have put him down at any moment but didnt.
Yes it is easy to say from the sideline, i do have some idea what im talking about having seen and been in that situation myself, i do get pretty piss with armchair fighters though, and think i just put myself in that catagory hahaha
ok... ask me to care about what you say about BJJ... I just cross train to know how to live on the ground if I ever end up on the ground... Dekker's one of my favourite fighters... so go F yourself
Well, there is something to be said about that. Maybe not you, but a lot of those bjj enthousiasts seem a bit pre-occupied with it. If it's a video with a superb fighter who can knock a pro fighter out with one good punch, they'll still go "ooh, he sucks! if only he's taken down..." etc.
Not to mention most of those keyboard heros probably wouldn't make it to grabbing range without taking one on the chin and going for a nap. That's what makes them so annoying. Fights are dynamic, unpredictable
Ludwig is a good trained fighter, Dekkers is a natural born fighter. In boxing we say mike tyson was the most naturally talented heavyweight ever, you can say the same same about dekkers. He lost in thailand but they doon't score punches which is his specialty. Hes the most exciting, fearless warrior i've ever seen in KB/MTK and everytime I watch I thank the gods for making atleast some of us from a different cloth. A Natural Born Killer!
ludwig wasn't running, he was circleling. He wanted to stay outside the shorter man. Dekkers is also a much more superior boxer with more power(more reason to stay outside). Ludwig thought he could kick and work knees in the clinch and get out right away.
What happened is that Dekkers is too tough and much better than ludwig. I also think from my own experience some rangy fighters have a tendacy to fold under hard hitters if their jab or front kick can't keep them at bay.
ur trippin bud duane only landed flush a few times the second round the hardest being the lift that stagered dekkers, dekkers ate his leg up and put him down twice. duane just faced an overall better striker, duanes power punches might work on bua kaw maybe but not dekkers if you land he makes you pay for it hard
To be honest - i think Duane had too much respect.
Granted, Ramon was really the best Muay Thai fighter in his weight class at a time in his career, but here he is a lot older, not fat but really gained much more weight compared to his career and last but not least had so many injuries....
Duane should not have had too much respect. You cant let Ramon have the fight he wants, you need to push the action to him - like how you win against Mirko CroCop. You need to chase him, not be chased.
Dekkers fought American Duane Ludwig in a superfight during the K-1 Max 2005 event. A few days before the fight Dekkers got heavily injured, tearing a ligament in his shoulder. But Dekkers wouldn't be Dekkers if he didn't continue fighting. The entire fight he punched only with his left arm, so he could not even setup his famous boxing combinations. Nevertheless Dekkers showed he had still the skills, knocking Ludwig down in every round, and took the fight with a comfortable point decision.
No he didn't. Don't make things up. He lost because in Thailand (not K-1 rules) any fighter can challenge any other fighter. Dekkers accepted all challenges, and of course lost some fights. To suggest they were rigged is laughable, the Thais loved him.
READ HIS BIOGRAPHY YOU FUCKING LITTLE GIT = "The only thing that Ramon dislikes in Muay Thai is the scoring system inside Thailand. He thinks he won a lot of his fights in Thailand only to have them taken away due to bad decisions. After some bouts he was confident that he had won the fight only to have it changed by the judges. He believes a lot of it has to do with the gambling in Lumpinee Stadium." YEAH SO YOU KNOW MORE THAN RAMON NOW??? GO, ARGUE MORE LITTLE BOY...
No, sure there were some fights where he legitimately lost, no doubt at all. But many decisions went against him. And yeah, you're right, everyone is biased towards the hometown boy. That's for sure.
kinda like how yodsanklai beat the shit out of andy souwer and they gave souwer the extra round knowing yod was gassed because THEY MADE HIM CUT 2 KILOS before the fight (even tho the fight was supposed to be at 72 kilos, they changed it to 70 at the last second).... yeah kinda like that huh? yodsanklai was fucking up souwer... but hey... they fought k-1 rules in holland... what do you expect right?
jap? ok crack. so if you put it like that.... american judges are biased towards their hometown fighters. to deny it you must be a crack. it is what it is... sometimes you cant do shit about it. but to say that dekkers never lost legitimately in thailand is ridiculous. im pretty damn sure someone beat him convincingly in his prime.
Dekkers believes most of his loses were on poor points decisions, in front of partisan Thai crowds, and his record supports his claim. In 215 fights, he was only knocked out once. There were times when I fought in Thailand and they told me I lost when I new I had won, he recalls
Dekkers fought American Duane Ludwig in a superfight during the K-1 Max 2005 event. A few days before the fight Dekkers got heavily injured, tearing a ligament in his shoulder. But Dekkers wouldn't be Dekkers if he didn't continue fighting. The entire fight he punched only with his left arm, so he could not even setup his famous boxing combinations. Nevertheless Dekkers showed he had still the skills, knocking Ludwig down in every round, and took the fight with a comfortable point decision.
ramon dekker fut gravement bléssé avant le combat il a eut une forte déchirure a l'épaule droit c'est le meilleur fighter qu'il soit:plus de 200 combat win175 95K.O ramon a la réputation d'être le plus combative et ne serait pas se qu'il est si il avait refuser... THE DIAMOND!!!
Outmatched yes and no Ludwig did alright against one of the greatest fighters to date and Ludwig was probable one of the only people willing to fight Dekker
Nah, I hate Ludwig, he's a dickhead of a guy. Look how he disrespected Sudo Genki in the UFC. Hmm but guess what "Bang"? Sudo wrapped up Dekkers in 1 round bi0tch
Ok first off ItalianKingStalion Your an Idioth 1. look at the size diff in Dekker and Lud and 2. Lud kicked and Dekker jabbed can you say off balance... 3. Lud is a fantastic fighter tons of heart and insane skills for him to stand with a god like Dekker is a sign in its own 4. To say someone is little and cant beat another person up because the other guy is bigger shows your intelligence but i guess thats exspected your claiming your Italian. All in all both great fighters and a good match.
Haha and amerikans are proud of that little twig that they sent out in the ring... that kricket made me fall out of my cahir luaghing... ramon is using his weaker hand and he still knocked the shit out of that skinny lil amerikan bitch. THE DIAMOND 4 EVER !!!
Dekker is an old man ofcourse he cant beat Buakaw. Buakaw is just a freak of nature, back when Dekker was in his prime omg he was a freak too. It would be fun to see considering that they have similar fighting styles.
if u guys notice, ramon dosent use his right hand at all other than faints, that is because his right hand had and injury and surgery due to all the pain he has gone through his 600+ fights, so if he had his right hand and his unbroken up legs, he would won by knock out in 10 seconds
Young Ludwig vs. Old Dekker. The young Dekker under full Muay Thai rule would have outclassed Ludwig so bad it wouldn't even have been close. I hate when legends fight when they're old - like Samkor too. People forget what bad asses they were in their prime. Diamond is Forever!
You are right BeggarSyu, Dekker could not use his right hand. Torn liggament. He only hit with his left, and he still downed Ludwig three times. If Ramon had the use of both arms he would eat Ludwig alive. Ramon is a 8 times world champion in muay thai. The only non Thai fighter ever to win the fighter of the year award in Thailand!!!
Duane was lucky to be in the ring with Ramon. Duane said it was an honor and he loved every minute of it because he has alot of respect for the legend.
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who said ramon dekkers is wht wht wht!!!! and its very very very known that lately ramon dekkers fight just with his experiance not needin to blow away his opponants in rage and aggresivness..he fucked'em all up before...any words in opposite ways r prounounced as great envy and it doesnt work...calm ur ass down or dont!
I'm not so sure about all asians, but as this is a Korean telecast, you're mostly right. Korean has the same phonetic letter in their alphabet for R / L. Our "R" is used when it is pronounced in the middle of a syllable. The "L" sound is used at the beginning or end of one.
Adepsa, what are you a racist or just a typical american? lol There are over 1000 different asian races and languages and not all of them pronouce R's as L's you dumb ass. Only Japanese people do that, kuz theres R and L sounds are realli similar in there tongue... I'm a second gen asian vietnamese that is. And I can pronounce R's n L's way better then most American born white people lol
Don't know what you guys were watching. From my standpoint Duane was winning no doubt other than the knock downs. And he was winning on 2 of the 4 criterias. Clean hits and probably damage.
"other than the knockdowns" lol what a tool you are. thats like saying bob sapp vs crocop was a dead even fight... other than when sapp got his face broken.
stop the video right as the fight clock (not youtube clock) reaches 1:04 or as it turns to 1:03 for a great counter punch. Too bad there isn't a slow-mo feature on youtube! : )
man dekkers knew what he was doing, he just stalked ludwig and broke him down. you cant buy experience. also dekkers is 37 now, at his peak it wouldnt have lasted a round!
...not really... dekkers has been fighter of the year in thailand...he knows about muaythai throdowns and knee-elbow distance...carrot top here is overwhelmed
It's possible. I just haven;t seen it LOL. Duane was like 12-0 at the time or something awesome like that. Dekkers is Duane's only loss at 20-1. Dekkers was outclassed in this fight but just hit harder, plain and simple(and had been hit much harder than Duane could hit).
Dekkers got more blows in too, and yeah, Dekkers can definitely take a punch from Duane. Dekkers is still a better fighter i think. And he didn't feel like he was outclassed at all, which is why he won :) That's a good record for Duane though.
Wait, so because Dekkers landed less shots and didn't move as well he wasn't out classed? Dude, Dekkers made a career out of being outclassed and still winning. The dude has heart and heavy ass hands, not so much incredible skill. He was outclassed, doesn't mean he wasn't the better fighter. Think of it this way: A dude dances circles around a guy and beats him to every shot and then gets caught and KTFO'd. Who do we call the better fighter? The dude who just knocked him out.
He didn't land less shots, and he moved a hell of a lot better obviously. He can Land punches on areas that count the most a lot better then Duane can. And he wasn't out classed by anyone. There was a time where even the Thai's said "He's unstoppable" Meaning he was the best. And he's definitely got more fight then Duane.
First Round: 24-18 and 1 knock down Duane wins by points but with the knockdown Dekkers keeps momentum.
Round 2: 25-12 and 1 Knock down. Again Duane retains the match by points. Had this been K-1 Duane would have lost due to the 2 down rule. Dekkers almost got flattened too though, but Dekkers definitley retained momentum.
Lol, you clearly have no clue about K-1 rules. Or movement anyway. Don't you notice how Dekkers is the agressor and clearly cuts of the ring the whole fight. He hasn't been in danger at one single point in the fight whatsoever.
Another nice anekdote you might not have noticed: the night before the fight Dekkers torned a ligament in his right arm. He still took the fight but couldn't punch with his right arm, ONLY with his left. If you look at the fight again, you can clearly see that he wanted to setup his boxing combination (routines in your system after fighting almost 20 years), but couldn't finish with right
So he justdid all the work with one single arm, and still managed to knock Bang down every single arm. If you don't believe me, rewatch the fight. You won't see a single right punch, but you can clearly see him setting it up. And if you still don't believe me, I can post a picture of the arm after the fight. How about that being outclassed by a veteran making his kickboxing comeback after haven't fought in 4 years, with only one arm? Makes you wonder huh??
He "tore" a ligament. I didn't know that, makes his win that much more impressive. And actually youmust not know much about K-1 rules because what you wrote doesn't score points or sway decisions. Duane was winning with points, he was out striking Dekkers who apparently was injured so at the time he was outclassed. He still won the fight, he hit harder and Duane's chin has always been suspect but Dekkers didn't hit him that often. He scored with leg kicks more than hands.
'Whether an effective and accurate attack is recognized, and damage is inflicted on the opponent by authorized fighting techniques. Each match consists of three (3) minutes X five (5) rounds or three (3) minutes X three (3) rounds.
Points will be awarded in this priority:
(1) Number of downs
(2) Extent of damage inflicted on the opponent
(3) Number of clean hits
(4) Degree of aggressiveness (points in the offensive)
@violetoctohedron Yeah against an MMA fighter. You should know that Muay Thai is a pure striking sport and has nothing to do with ground work.....
RobMarx23 9 months ago
Good way for Dekkers to end his career in style :) Despite having a torn ligament in his right shoulder he still beat Ludwigs ass :)
RobMarx23 9 months ago
Ramon Dekkers in K1 ...very good
fElix432sant 10 months ago
That's right. He was basically fighting with one arm. Hardly threw any right hands at all. Luckily he was fighting a starstruck and glass-chinned Ludwig.
cph4 1 year ago
He also tore a ligament in his right shoulder while training for this fight and he still manages to win.
MadVentertainer 1 year ago
he beat ludwig hurt one of his arms was injured before the fight
Cambaer84 1 year ago
ramon dekkers is one of my favorite muay thai fighters.I mean have you seen his punches and his lo-kicks fast and hard.not so much cobos but if he kick then he really hurt his enemy
TheZzZBulletz 1 year ago
i remember a ludwig fight many years ago in los angleas where he beat and retired a local sensation ? named bryan popjeoy ..i think is was both of there pro fights..
ludwig is not a feemur level technician in the least ..
FUSSYMUAYTHAI 1 year ago
The master.
KMR0058 1 year ago
K-1 rules suck.
whereshitrise90 1 year ago
Low Kick
SatanicSilencieux 1 year ago
he was injured one of his ligaments in arms for this fight he always fights even if hes hurt
Cambaer84 1 year ago
man is getting very old!! It's the stressing life in Holland!! :(
redscorpion113 1 year ago
Lamon Dekkers easily won the fight.
coreydm1969 1 year ago
@coreydm1969
hahaha
Nozo1986 1 year ago
and he won using legs and only left hand! OMFG!
p2klan 1 year ago
soo.. who won this fight ?
MegaFingazz 1 year ago
@MegaFingazz there's a round 3 in the related videos or in "More from blaatdaap".
I could tell you but you may want to watch that first. ;)
blaatdaap 1 year ago
@blaatdaap wow dekkers is way past his prime in this fight. Hes not even close to the aggresiveness he had back in the day
535manbearpig 1 year ago
@535manbearpig yeah well that's no wonder since he hadn't fought in 4 years (he retired in 2001). And when you get older, you usually have to adjust your style, most fighters can't keep up the aggresiveness that Ramon displayed in his glory days. But even with that said, he still defeated Bang pretty easily (even with one arm). So I guess he didn't need the aggresiveness in this fight.
blaatdaap 1 year ago
@blaatdaap v
SatanicSilencieux 1 year ago
@SatanicSilencieux ok v to you too ;)
blaatdaap 1 year ago
@535manbearpig wtf do u know???fucking utube nak muay motherfucker
ThePrzemo300 9 months ago
@ThePrzemo300 whatever pussy
535manbearpig 9 months ago
@535manbearpig wiki Qoute " A few days before the fight Dekker injured himself, tearing a ligament in his right shoulder. The entire fight he punched only with his left arm, so he could not even setup his famous boxing combinations. Nevertheless Dekker knocked Ludwig down in every round, and won the fight by decision " Pretty cool i reckon, which also adds to the fact why he wasn't so as agressive in this fight.
Bezzzzo 8 months ago
@535manbearpig i read that he had a shoulder injury and could only really punch with one arm so he couldnt set up his combos and kicks
awesomegonzo 5 months ago
@535manbearpig Dekkers tore his shoulder muscle before this fight, that's why he is only punching with his left hand.
misfitstattoo 2 months ago
Wow, is this the page where all the internet wimps hang out? All the posts on this page are fucked, lol.
U all suck much? I gess u do.
STFU, go F urself, FU, lol.........how gay
Lothlorean 2 years ago 10
he was injured when fighting this fight. Look at the way he's only punching with his left.
britewired 2 years ago
4:59 ROW TU!
i love asian announcers =)
hornyronjeremy69 2 years ago 2
The kids's got balls to be stepping in against a legend like Dekkers.
Fangen88 2 years ago 3
that is because everyone wants to have a shot against ramon!!!!! they can get knocked out badly but if they get to win their pride will reach the sky
corfiot21 2 years ago
from holland =O
it's not a french...
slipkeevinot 2 years ago
Ghoston is from France... that's what he meant ;)
blaatdaap 2 years ago
"RAMON" THE LEGEND !!! from France
ghoston88 2 years ago
hahaha proving again ludwig sucks and just needs to back back to his MMA career and leave the stand up for the men
manggon88 2 years ago
Not bad for a 36 year old with a torn shoulder ligament!
C0mfortablyDumb 2 years ago 2
numbnuts i doubt he could have put ludwig down at anytime, if u know your fighters and about fighting then u'd know that bang ludwig isnt a push over.
sweetjesuss 2 years ago
Few days before this fight dekkers had an injury on the right shoulder, so he could basically only punch with the left arm... amazing isn't it...
kimboII 2 years ago 2
why dident they show ho wins well it propople was dekkers
herhadz16 2 years ago
nice knockdown dekkers is a good fighter i want to se him fight wich serkan yilmaz it wood be a very good fight serkan lost witch ludwik but it wasent by a knockout just and off time
herhadz16 2 years ago
dekker , is a kinggggg
MichelShine 2 years ago
Sorry, but if this guy is king, he should have kept this guy down in the first round... ludwig had a predictable offence/defence but was trying to find an opening.. dekker found ludwigs opening and never used it to keep him down. This was a biased fight look at them.. no way they are in the same fighting catagory ludwig is clearly the lighter dekker could have put him down at any moment but didnt.
numbnuts667 2 years ago
easy to say from the sideline
2ossy 2 years ago
Yes it is easy to say from the sideline, i do have some idea what im talking about having seen and been in that situation myself, i do get pretty piss with armchair fighters though, and think i just put myself in that catagory hahaha
numbnuts667 2 years ago
dude, the guy looks like he's a noob, and he's alot taller than dekker... dekker is an old fart now, he was king once, but not anymore... so STFU
BJJMTF 2 years ago
no, you STFU. You call a fighter like Ramon "old fart" ?
what a fucking stupid n00b.....i like BJJ, it's very effective, but to many people bjj gives a strange sense of superiority..
ienabellamy 2 years ago
ok... ask me to care about what you say about BJJ... I just cross train to know how to live on the ground if I ever end up on the ground... Dekker's one of my favourite fighters... so go F yourself
BJJMTF 2 years ago
Well, there is something to be said about that. Maybe not you, but a lot of those bjj enthousiasts seem a bit pre-occupied with it. If it's a video with a superb fighter who can knock a pro fighter out with one good punch, they'll still go "ooh, he sucks! if only he's taken down..." etc.
Not to mention most of those keyboard heros probably wouldn't make it to grabbing range without taking one on the chin and going for a nap. That's what makes them so annoying. Fights are dynamic, unpredictable
Blahb27 1 year ago
I gess the BJ part of ur name stands for blow job....lol ur a sissy
Lothlorean 2 years ago 6
yeah ti does, if you're a sexy Asian chick, then I'll have you give me one...
BJJMTF 2 years ago
Dekker fought with one arm (injured right) and i think Ramon is lighter, not Duane.
B0l0joe 2 years ago 2
LOL what is that guy doing in the ring
idunnosia 2 years ago
ludwig is a joke his style looks soo goofy
manggon88 2 years ago
Dekkers is back ?
when did this fight happen ?
IamnotBruno 2 years ago
he fights with one arm, because the other suffer injury the before day
asfranco88 2 years ago 2
el puto amo!!
TheNuksoo 2 years ago
why are mexicans here man? its thai kick boxing man leave us alone already sheez always so intimidated by everything Asian..
WLuico 2 years ago
dekkers is very similar to zambidis
yannisss1989 2 years ago
Ludwig is such a great teacher his classes are great! ebjj....
iamthedude24 2 years ago
Ludwig is a good trained fighter, Dekkers is a natural born fighter. In boxing we say mike tyson was the most naturally talented heavyweight ever, you can say the same same about dekkers. He lost in thailand but they doon't score punches which is his specialty. Hes the most exciting, fearless warrior i've ever seen in KB/MTK and everytime I watch I thank the gods for making atleast some of us from a different cloth. A Natural Born Killer!
MadiBebe 2 years ago
dekkers is sure one of the great fighters, but don't down thailand fighters, post the video if u think the match is "unfair"
wowgame123 2 years ago
ludwig wasn't running, he was circleling. He wanted to stay outside the shorter man. Dekkers is also a much more superior boxer with more power(more reason to stay outside). Ludwig thought he could kick and work knees in the clinch and get out right away.
What happened is that Dekkers is too tough and much better than ludwig. I also think from my own experience some rangy fighters have a tendacy to fold under hard hitters if their jab or front kick can't keep them at bay.
MadiBebe 2 years ago
duane put it on him in the second round. other than the knockdowns dekkers didn't deliver as much
smddrandom 2 years ago
ur trippin bud duane only landed flush a few times the second round the hardest being the lift that stagered dekkers, dekkers ate his leg up and put him down twice. duane just faced an overall better striker, duanes power punches might work on bua kaw maybe but not dekkers if you land he makes you pay for it hard
bj427dvl 2 years ago
This fella is just running away not a wise move against dekker deluxe!
134being 2 years ago
this fight is from 2005
zachxrawlings 2 years ago
this is a new fight?????because ive never seen it.... is he back to fighting or he's is still retired?
lowrider1991 2 years ago
Duane shoulda pressed the action a little bit more.
cypresspuz 2 years ago
To be honest - i think Duane had too much respect.
Granted, Ramon was really the best Muay Thai fighter in his weight class at a time in his career, but here he is a lot older, not fat but really gained much more weight compared to his career and last but not least had so many injuries....
Duane should not have had too much respect. You cant let Ramon have the fight he wants, you need to push the action to him - like how you win against Mirko CroCop. You need to chase him, not be chased.
shevegen 2 years ago 3
dekkers tore ligaments in his right shoulder days before this fight, and still knocked down ludwig repeatedly....warrior muay thai/skill.
Chulo4LIFE 3 years ago
i was just about to say this, dekkers is pretty incredible
l4p3m8 2 years ago
pierdolony dobry jest
moguay80 3 years ago
some of Dekkers fights in thailand he lost legally, like his fights against Orono and Sangtienoi
Eskil92 3 years ago 2
Dekkers twice the size of ludwig. Made for a borin g fight.
bertazoid 3 years ago
both were 75 KG. Or were you speaking
figuratively?
blaatdaap 3 years ago
its not allowed to be one bigger than the other
its the category, must be same.
Riste1986 3 years ago
Duane Ludwig's apuss... boring fight
KingObould 3 years ago
Dekkers fought American Duane Ludwig in a superfight during the K-1 Max 2005 event. A few days before the fight Dekkers got heavily injured, tearing a ligament in his shoulder. But Dekkers wouldn't be Dekkers if he didn't continue fighting. The entire fight he punched only with his left arm, so he could not even setup his famous boxing combinations. Nevertheless Dekkers showed he had still the skills, knocking Ludwig down in every round, and took the fight with a comfortable point decision.
onutu 3 years ago
una bestia ramon
pablotri2 3 years ago
ae there any fighters in any disciplines who can match or beat dekkers striking power?
redmondp1 3 years ago
ya plenty, he's(was) indeed great fighter, but not unbeatable, also lost few times :)
W1zzar3 3 years ago
LOL.... He lost mainly because he faught Thai's in Thailand infront of a Thai crowd with Thai judges and was robbed by a Thai decision.
Same thing happens today in Thailand with Muay Thai and Japan in K-1. They don't like to lose in their national sport to a round eye :)
unregisturd 3 years ago 4
No he didn't. Don't make things up. He lost because in Thailand (not K-1 rules) any fighter can challenge any other fighter. Dekkers accepted all challenges, and of course lost some fights. To suggest they were rigged is laughable, the Thais loved him.
whufcgank 3 years ago 2
READ HIS BIOGRAPHY YOU FUCKING LITTLE GIT = "The only thing that Ramon dislikes in Muay Thai is the scoring system inside Thailand. He thinks he won a lot of his fights in Thailand only to have them taken away due to bad decisions. After some bouts he was confident that he had won the fight only to have it changed by the judges. He believes a lot of it has to do with the gambling in Lumpinee Stadium." YEAH SO YOU KNOW MORE THAN RAMON NOW??? GO, ARGUE MORE LITTLE BOY...
unregisturd 3 years ago 3
so you telling me.. there wasnt 1 fight he lost legitimately in thailand?
chinoloc619 3 years ago
No, sure there were some fights where he legitimately lost, no doubt at all. But many decisions went against him. And yeah, you're right, everyone is biased towards the hometown boy. That's for sure.
electrochik888 3 years ago
kinda like how yodsanklai beat the shit out of andy souwer and they gave souwer the extra round knowing yod was gassed because THEY MADE HIM CUT 2 KILOS before the fight (even tho the fight was supposed to be at 72 kilos, they changed it to 70 at the last second).... yeah kinda like that huh? yodsanklai was fucking up souwer... but hey... they fought k-1 rules in holland... what do you expect right?
chinoloc619 3 years ago
Everyone knows the Thai and Jap judges are biased towards their hometown fighters. To deny it you must be Thai or Jap.
ThomsonNThompson 3 years ago 4
jap? ok crack. so if you put it like that.... american judges are biased towards their hometown fighters. to deny it you must be a crack. it is what it is... sometimes you cant do shit about it. but to say that dekkers never lost legitimately in thailand is ridiculous. im pretty damn sure someone beat him convincingly in his prime.
chinoloc619 3 years ago
yup. just like how yodsanklai wrecked souwer... but they gave him the decision.
chinoloc619 3 years ago
Bull.
DrMabuse2006 2 years ago
Dekkers believes most of his loses were on poor points decisions, in front of partisan Thai crowds, and his record supports his claim. In 215 fights, he was only knocked out once. There were times when I fought in Thailand and they told me I lost when I new I had won, he recalls
ThomsonNThompson 3 years ago 4
excuse
burningknuckle26 3 years ago
Nice lowkicks, dutch style muay thay,ggotta love it,Dekkers rules.
ries5 3 years ago
Dekkers fought American Duane Ludwig in a superfight during the K-1 Max 2005 event. A few days before the fight Dekkers got heavily injured, tearing a ligament in his shoulder. But Dekkers wouldn't be Dekkers if he didn't continue fighting. The entire fight he punched only with his left arm, so he could not even setup his famous boxing combinations. Nevertheless Dekkers showed he had still the skills, knocking Ludwig down in every round, and took the fight with a comfortable point decision.
0Merijn0 3 years ago 4
dude why the fuck did you copy and paiste wikipedia. could have just said man he tore his shoulder and still dominated the fight
ckd04 3 years ago
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fuck u all!!! ludwig is a GREAT FIGHTER!!
MMAmASTER007 3 years ago
I'm sure he is, no-one here is saying otherwise. We are however pointing out the fact that Dekkers has beaten him many times.
cytrus500 3 years ago
ramon dekker fut gravement bléssé avant le combat il a eut une forte déchirure a l'épaule droit c'est le meilleur fighter qu'il soit:plus de 200 combat win175 95K.O ramon a la réputation d'être le plus combative et ne serait pas se qu'il est si il avait refuser... THE DIAMOND!!!
tahitiencoupcoup 3 years ago
It's actually a torn ligament in his right shoulder. But yeah, he never punches with his right in this fight
chr9is 3 years ago
dude ramon is amde up of iron he cant get knocked out
punkzorr 3 years ago
veteran vs beginner,i feel bad for the american
nihilfist83 3 years ago
Ramon came into this fight with a torn ligament in his right hand, if u notice, he never uses his right hand to throw a punch, their all feints.
Rottetrol54r 3 years ago 2
Outmatched yes and no Ludwig did alright against one of the greatest fighters to date and Ludwig was probable one of the only people willing to fight Dekker
kcool951juice578 3 years ago
Nah, I hate Ludwig, he's a dickhead of a guy. Look how he disrespected Sudo Genki in the UFC. Hmm but guess what "Bang"? Sudo wrapped up Dekkers in 1 round bi0tch
unregisturd 3 years ago
waaaaaaaaaaaaaay outmatched (-.-)
Tincan6 3 years ago
duane ur stupid y u put ur self in a fight where ur not fightin dam ashame ur self....
supercharge1 3 years ago
yea, hes fighting southpaw, he also switches back and forth to confuse the other guy
Mccoins 4 years ago
No he has a torn ligament in his right hand...so he can't use the right hand to throw punches..
RealFeLa 3 years ago
damn ramon got bigger (miscle) and fatter lol
but he is still the best...cant wait to get to the level of training he is at.
movingkiller13 4 years ago
lol never.
devourerofbabies 4 years ago
no kidding I thought that was iron mike zambiddis for a sec.
lanzedom 4 years ago
yea, don't hold ur breath buddy, and stick to ur day job.
rottenapple33 3 years ago
fuck it that Ramon is older than duane.. he still kicks his ass..
and Ramon is the great example of how a kick-box/muy thai boxer should be..
roffel89 4 years ago
Ramon came into this fight with a torn ligament in his right hand, if u notice, he never uses his right hand to throw a punch, their all feints.
Kin94285 4 years ago 5
Well i take back the Size diff heh, i forget how tall Lud is, but ya great fight and a tone of respect for both guys.
luckysaint1127 4 years ago
Ok first off ItalianKingStalion Your an Idioth 1. look at the size diff in Dekker and Lud and 2. Lud kicked and Dekker jabbed can you say off balance... 3. Lud is a fantastic fighter tons of heart and insane skills for him to stand with a god like Dekker is a sign in its own 4. To say someone is little and cant beat another person up because the other guy is bigger shows your intelligence but i guess thats exspected your claiming your Italian. All in all both great fighters and a good match.
luckysaint1127 4 years ago
Lol.. The reporter: "Lamon Dekkah"..
Boutartega 4 years ago 4
they should of clenched more
thaifighter747 4 years ago
Ramon Dekkers is the best ever.
PortaleMedia 4 years ago
a bit boring..
drakhel 4 years ago
indeed
kylratix 4 years ago
Haha and amerikans are proud of that little twig that they sent out in the ring... that kricket made me fall out of my cahir luaghing... ramon is using his weaker hand and he still knocked the shit out of that skinny lil amerikan bitch. THE DIAMOND 4 EVER !!!
ItalianKingStalion 4 years ago 2
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fuck dekker he couldnt beat buakaw.
TheFutureLadyLaw 4 years ago
you mean when he was 36 he could not beat him!?
jaakbeentjes 4 years ago
Dekker is an old man ofcourse he cant beat Buakaw. Buakaw is just a freak of nature, back when Dekker was in his prime omg he was a freak too. It would be fun to see considering that they have similar fighting styles.
i1wingedangel 4 years ago
Woa, I didn't know dekkers was so old.
fedecama 4 years ago
if u guys notice, ramon dosent use his right hand at all other than faints, that is because his right hand had and injury and surgery due to all the pain he has gone through his 600+ fights, so if he had his right hand and his unbroken up legs, he would won by knock out in 10 seconds
superfly000 4 years ago
Young Ludwig vs. Old Dekker. The young Dekker under full Muay Thai rule would have outclassed Ludwig so bad it wouldn't even have been close. I hate when legends fight when they're old - like Samkor too. People forget what bad asses they were in their prime. Diamond is Forever!
MTsomboBJJ 4 years ago
Well fuck, Dekkers couldn't even use his right arm in this fight, and he still won. STILL a badass.
devourerofbabies 4 years ago
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fuckin dekkers and ludwig they r both fucking boring fighters...christ bunch of pussies up in these comments too..
mrbracken 4 years ago
no am I saying that?
24guns24 4 years ago
ramon was a lot more agresive when he was young
24guns24 4 years ago 3
who are you his manager or what
RazielFallenAngel 4 years ago
Lamon Dekkels XD
djcenkan 4 years ago
Wow. this is a great fight
briach 4 years ago
ramon is so cool... when he was younger, he was GREAT
now he is VERY GOOD, its nice to see at his age him being still able to put up a fight
shevegen 4 years ago
yhea duane ludwing great fighter but ramon its de best
MMAENS 4 years ago
Ramon is he best
TheDiamonDekkers 4 years ago
when was this? from 2000??
FarFadern 4 years ago
2005
DrMabuse2006 4 years ago
are you fuckin blind Ludwig got droped 2 times dumbass
woodey130 4 years ago
Yup, if Ramon had been able to use both hands that match Duane would be entirely knocked down faster than ever.
untroubled 4 years ago
You are right BeggarSyu, Dekker could not use his right hand. Torn liggament. He only hit with his left, and he still downed Ludwig three times. If Ramon had the use of both arms he would eat Ludwig alive. Ramon is a 8 times world champion in muay thai. The only non Thai fighter ever to win the fighter of the year award in Thailand!!!
Patjepeer 4 years ago
i think wane parr had also won fighters of the year. but dekkers was definately the first falang to do it
skinnysally90 4 years ago
k wasnt deekers injured? and still fought?
BeggarSyu 4 years ago
Duane was lucky to be in the ring with Ramon. Duane said it was an honor and he loved every minute of it because he has alot of respect for the legend.
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weedzard 4 years ago
who said ramon dekkers is wht wht wht!!!! and its very very very known that lately ramon dekkers fight just with his experiance not needin to blow away his opponants in rage and aggresivness..he fucked'em all up before...any words in opposite ways r prounounced as great envy and it doesnt work...calm ur ass down or dont!
komonology 4 years ago
lol, the announcers call him "Lamon Dekkers"
zigcat 5 years ago
LMAO
phantomboi 4 years ago
It's just Asians can't pronounce the "R" letter, they say "L" instead, even the second generation ones :)
adepsa 4 years ago
I'm not so sure about all asians, but as this is a Korean telecast, you're mostly right. Korean has the same phonetic letter in their alphabet for R / L. Our "R" is used when it is pronounced in the middle of a syllable. The "L" sound is used at the beginning or end of one.
kylratix 4 years ago
Adepsa, what are you a racist or just a typical american? lol There are over 1000 different asian races and languages and not all of them pronouce R's as L's you dumb ass. Only Japanese people do that, kuz theres R and L sounds are realli similar in there tongue... I'm a second gen asian vietnamese that is. And I can pronounce R's n L's way better then most American born white people lol
anhkhoinguyen 3 years ago
The Thais do it to.
chanheurng 3 years ago
Don't know what you guys were watching. From my standpoint Duane was winning no doubt other than the knock downs. And he was winning on 2 of the 4 criterias. Clean hits and probably damage.
mowglieboy1 5 years ago
Duane was winning? Are you blind?
SicSeb 4 years ago
If clean hits from your opponent and receiving damage would count for that then he was clearly the winner.
DrMabuse2006 4 years ago
"other than the knockdowns" lol what a tool you are. thats like saying bob sapp vs crocop was a dead even fight... other than when sapp got his face broken.
bizzle187 4 years ago
stop the video right as the fight clock (not youtube clock) reaches 1:04 or as it turns to 1:03 for a great counter punch. Too bad there isn't a slow-mo feature on youtube! : )
dougrhess 5 years ago
man what a pussy that bang boy.. he is the guy with the longer reach he should put dekker on the run not the other way around
riemer3 5 years ago
man dekkers knew what he was doing, he just stalked ludwig and broke him down. you cant buy experience. also dekkers is 37 now, at his peak it wouldnt have lasted a round!
bigtimematty 5 years ago
...not really... dekkers has been fighter of the year in thailand...he knows about muaythai throdowns and knee-elbow distance...carrot top here is overwhelmed
misterzeerow 5 years ago
Just a bit scared :)
Sexums 5 years ago
Can you imagine how good Ludwig would be if he had a good jaw?!? World beater. Dekkers is a hawse though.
ozthepowerful 5 years ago
It doesn't matter how strong your jaw is, no one in the world in Dekkers weight class can take a full on punch from him, no one can.
-Proven fact.
Sexums 5 years ago
It's possible. I just haven;t seen it LOL. Duane was like 12-0 at the time or something awesome like that. Dekkers is Duane's only loss at 20-1. Dekkers was outclassed in this fight but just hit harder, plain and simple(and had been hit much harder than Duane could hit).
ozthepowerful 5 years ago
Dekkers got more blows in too, and yeah, Dekkers can definitely take a punch from Duane. Dekkers is still a better fighter i think. And he didn't feel like he was outclassed at all, which is why he won :) That's a good record for Duane though.
Sexums 5 years ago
Not to mention... he was fighting a legend ; )
Sexums 5 years ago
How can you say with dry eyes that Dekkers was outclassed? If someone was being outclassed, it was Ludwig.
I'm terribly sorry to bring the bad news, but if you don't see that, you have no clue about kickboxing.
blaatdaap 5 years ago
Wait, so because Dekkers landed less shots and didn't move as well he wasn't out classed? Dude, Dekkers made a career out of being outclassed and still winning. The dude has heart and heavy ass hands, not so much incredible skill. He was outclassed, doesn't mean he wasn't the better fighter. Think of it this way: A dude dances circles around a guy and beats him to every shot and then gets caught and KTFO'd. Who do we call the better fighter? The dude who just knocked him out.
ozthepowerful 5 years ago
He didn't land less shots, and he moved a hell of a lot better obviously. He can Land punches on areas that count the most a lot better then Duane can. And he wasn't out classed by anyone. There was a time where even the Thai's said "He's unstoppable" Meaning he was the best. And he's definitely got more fight then Duane.
Sexums 5 years ago
First Round: 24-18 and 1 knock down Duane wins by points but with the knockdown Dekkers keeps momentum.
Round 2: 25-12 and 1 Knock down. Again Duane retains the match by points. Had this been K-1 Duane would have lost due to the 2 down rule. Dekkers almost got flattened too though, but Dekkers definitley retained momentum.
ozthepowerful 5 years ago
Lol, you clearly have no clue about K-1 rules. Or movement anyway. Don't you notice how Dekkers is the agressor and clearly cuts of the ring the whole fight. He hasn't been in danger at one single point in the fight whatsoever.
blaatdaap 5 years ago
Another nice anekdote you might not have noticed: the night before the fight Dekkers torned a ligament in his right arm. He still took the fight but couldn't punch with his right arm, ONLY with his left. If you look at the fight again, you can clearly see that he wanted to setup his boxing combination (routines in your system after fighting almost 20 years), but couldn't finish with right
blaatdaap 5 years ago
So he justdid all the work with one single arm, and still managed to knock Bang down every single arm. If you don't believe me, rewatch the fight. You won't see a single right punch, but you can clearly see him setting it up. And if you still don't believe me, I can post a picture of the arm after the fight. How about that being outclassed by a veteran making his kickboxing comeback after haven't fought in 4 years, with only one arm? Makes you wonder huh??
blaatdaap 5 years ago
He "tore" a ligament. I didn't know that, makes his win that much more impressive. And actually youmust not know much about K-1 rules because what you wrote doesn't score points or sway decisions. Duane was winning with points, he was out striking Dekkers who apparently was injured so at the time he was outclassed. He still won the fight, he hit harder and Duane's chin has always been suspect but Dekkers didn't hit him that often. He scored with leg kicks more than hands.
ozthepowerful 5 years ago
I quote from the official K-1 rules:
'Whether an effective and accurate attack is recognized, and damage is inflicted on the opponent by authorized fighting techniques. Each match consists of three (3) minutes X five (5) rounds or three (3) minutes X three (3) rounds.
Points will be awarded in this priority:
(1) Number of downs
(2) Extent of damage inflicted on the opponent
(3) Number of clean hits
(4) Degree of aggressiveness (points in the offensive)
blaatdaap 5 years ago