Brother Yun's Son on "My Greatest Influence"

[VikPal1]

Michiman57, please read the book and repent while you still have time!

[michiman57]

@VikPal1 i have read the bible multiple times. i was christian all my life. the bible is a fairy tale equally fake as harry potter books and the flying spaghetti monster. please tell me you are smarter than that

[noleyplatz]

It's salutary to hear Brother Yun's son speaking in German and remember how he and his family were helped on their escape from China by those people, especially Rheinhard Bonke, another true evangelist.

[esmejvv]

I also have read The Heavenly Man. You are a blessing to your father. God bless you.

[michiman57]

religion is not in any way to be taken seriously. religion was created by ancient man as a primitive way of explaining the world around them and how they came to be. now we have the scientific method, which is possibly the greatest discovery of all time. and it is based on evidence and observations to come up with valid conclusions on problems. religion is just a belief. a belief in an story of an invisible man in the sky with abosultely NOTHING WHATSOEVER to back it up. youre fools

[hans89]

@michiman57 How do you explain that kind of integrity which is described here? Can science give that to you?

[michiman57]

@hans89 can religion give you logic and reason? no, but science can. and for some unknown reason christians seem to be against logic and reason just so they can believe in an invisible man from the sky.

[hans89]

@michiman57 You did not answer my question but posed another question. Let me answer yours first: Christians are not against logic and reason. Logic and reason do not preclude that there is more than can be seen with the eye, measured with a scientific instrument or thought with a brain. Just because you have not experienced what others have experienced doesn't mean their experiences are invalid. How can you use logic and reason if you do not have a final purpose? They cannot give

[hans89]

@michiman57 you a final person. They cannot tell you who you are, where you are coming from and where you are going. What is logic and reason without love? If people have no final purpose, they will assume their ego is the final purpose. And where is that leading us? Can logic and reason change the heart of man and make a saint from a murderer?

[michiman57]

@hans89 logic and reason can change man. did you know that countries with higher populations of atheists have a much lower crime rate than religious countries? it is because atheists go by facts and not fiction. the bible is considered myth, since it has no more evidence or facts supporting it than the tooth fairy, flying unicorns or dragons. also just because you want to have a final purpose in life, does absolutely not mean there is one. once again, nothing supports this theory of a purpose

[hans89]

@michiman57 what theory? It is the nature of human beings to seek a purpose. They may be very good at distracting themselves and others from it, but it is still human nature to seek a purpose. look through all of world literature, for example.

[michiman57]

@hans89 every creatures purpose is to survive and pass on their genes to the next generation. any other purpose you seek, is just something you put in your brain that you want to believe. if it makes you feel better having a purpose, fine, but reproduction is the only real prupose anybody has. tell me what your purpose is, and show me evidence that it is our natural prupose, not something you made up

[hans89]

@michiman57 That would be a very sad purpose. What is the proof that that is our purpose? Couldn't we just die out as well? Wouldn't it all be the same? Any man can decide not to procreate. who is to say he is missing his purpose? Our purpose is to seek God. No, I didn't make it up. You can find evidence that people have had the same idea a long time before me. I know that isn't the evidence you are asking for. I cannot give that to you.

[michiman57]

@hans89 in my opinion, my purpose is to live a good life instead of kissing some invisible mans ass all my life. there is nothing that suggests he is real. your "god" has absolutely no impact on life on earth. unless you can give me evidendce (which every single christian has failed to do) i will not kiss a fake mans ass. i cursed out god, i told him to go fuck himself, i told him to go ahead and make me suffer for all of it, but guess what... nothing has ever happened and im still living happy

[hans89]

@michiman57 should have been "final reason" not "person."

[michiman57]

an asian speaking german, which is translated to english. odd. anyway heres something for you christians

[alamdm1]

God bless you Issac. I knew your name from the Book "The heavenly Man". You rise up in this country like China. Because this country needs you. Know that many brothers and sisters are praying for you. God is your shepherd. He will not let you down......With much prayer for you, your parents and your ministry over there.

[radicalcalling]

Thank-you Isaac for this testimony about your dad. Through his books he has been a blessing, a humbling and a challenge to me. To God be the glory for His calling on your families life!

[paisleyyama]

I like testimonies like this where a child can be a testment of their parent, and the parent a testament of God.