@NTarant1 Ever seen a bgel test of the damage caused by a remington golden saber 124g +P? Same rounds I have. One round "Seen in some of my favs" does tremendous damage about +12 inches and the perminant expansion cavity is as wide as the block. Now if I shot you once in the chest or even in the leg but I wound empty a 20 round clip in about a sec all over mostly at the head. Just one can kill by the shock. Even in the hand you would be dead by the feedback of shock. Simple shock kills
Id much rather be behind a sapi plate then this system, many individual armour plates are far less reliable than one large plate, anything could happen to any number of the individual plates if you saw anything wrong with the single sapi plate you could remove it and replace it compared to buying a whole new vest, just my opinion.
The reason the us army doesnt use any other armour is because the type they use is put together by U.S prisoners, which is illegel and has been for years and goes against U N regulations, but America doesnt give a shit about human rights in the country but likes to police the world, just look at the new free press stats, usa 43rd in the world, mostly due to Fox
@fuzzynostic Really Fox? I think you are giving way too much influence to one news station. It is more then just one thing that has America in the shit hole it has become. Sorry your angry liberal brain can't process that though.
yepp, the shockwave would blast ur lungs, but kinda stupid ''solidier: why dont we get the better dragonskin armour?'' ''us goverent: sry, but we invested money in another armour and we dont want to change so.... wear this, its crappy so... for god sake dontget urself shot''
No the main reason why they dont invest in dragonskin is because the pentagon already invested millions of dollars on the interceptor body armor and investing will just make the interceptor body armor money wasted
Considering this video was made more then 4 years ago now why do i get the impression that armor as good as or even comparable to that still isn't used by the US military today?
@1775novten first thank you and second you also have a sick profile name. And yes all body armor is produced by private companies but certain companies get government contracts and those are the products we use. And the army is restricted to using those companies respective body armor that is under government contract
Let me just clear this up quick. Yes the US Army banned dragon skin use but they also banned use of any body armor produced by private companies. However in other branches such as the Marine Corps we are still allowed to use other armor but it is suggested we "wear standard Marine Corps issue body armor as it has been properly tested and is up to Marine Corps regulations."
@11M10A17R75INES First, digging your profile name. Also just wanted to clarify that all body armor is produced by private companies, but also agree that it must go through proper government witnessed T&E before it is issued to any troops.
U.S. Military could find that the vest after explosive is no longer useable (we saw the ring near the explosive zone) but the stantard armor will be useless to and still we see that dragon shin is more flexible. The hole at 0:15 is on last ring in line. That is a blind spot. This ring is only connected left side. It's isn't perfekt but still better then any others
wow really you people need to look at issued armor its fucking kevlar on top of steel plates and weighs a fuck ton you can practically make it in your garage
intercepter is what we use and its shit idk who would talk shit on this stuff its the most beautiful thing i have ever seen. the only reason we dont use it is political
The only problem with this armor is that the plate carrier is Fricken Huge and when you get you muticam on there... your gonna be packing some serious weight
@naughtydogsairsoft8 i think i can let the one hole slide... i know its dealing with peoples lives but if you get shot that much honestly you are probably gonna be dead just from the impact of the rounds
dude...its not about the resistance to 50.cal, when it was designed it was intended to render al-Qaeda ak 47s virtually useless. well at least al-qaeda does not use 50 calibers.
I dislike this video because the military bureaucrats are a bunch of penny-pinching fuck-asses who didn't have the sense to issue this armor to our troops overseas. God help us all with whoever runs this military being so fucktarded.
@115xxxCeReAlKi11eRxx Yea as I watched this I had the same question. The shockwave from that grenade is at least like what, 500 g's up close? I'm not entirely sure but the dragon skin couldn't have absorbed that much. I think it takes 100g's to kill a man or something like that, and there's no way dragon skin could have protected against all that. Also, I think they should have tested the 7.62x51mm. If it could survive something like that, over 3000 J, that'd be something amazing.
All branches of our Military should wear this body armor. They deserve the best equipment available to protect this Great country. God bless our men and women in U.S. Military.
@buckshots500 The reason that we don't wear this is because Congress decided to have a .50 BMG shot at it. A test that WAS NOT performed on the current body armor that we have.
Its not worn because the glue that is used to hold the plates in place, melts in hot climates, so it is rendered near useless in the middle east. I'm guessing that they're working on a new way to hold the plates in place.
@buckshots500 i think we all know what would save more lives than this, bringing our troops home to stop fighting these pointless wars, its cheaper and would save money to get this
Im not all that surprised that a .223 (5.56) nor that the 9mm (provided if they were using pistol rounds) didn't damage much, and depending on the grain of the bullet, Im impressed if they were using 165+ grain bullets from the 7.62. But a damn grenade? im interested if it could take a harder hitting cartridge, like a 33 caliber for a .408. But with the grenade, while the shrapnel may not kill you, id think surely the shock wave would still fuck you up a little, like tnt in water.
I would be willing to bet that an interceptor vest would stop the grenade too; Jason Dunham, who jumped on a grenade to save his squad, only died because a piece of shrapnel hit his head.
Grenade will kill with shock wave via air and tissues, not with piercing shrapnel. Modern wars are full of cases when on corpses near an explosion were with no cuts or even bruises. Some dye days after shock waves concussion.
@currishev You are correct. Most fragmentation grenades however are designed to kill via shrapnel, not shock wave. As for dying several days later, I believe that would be because the shock wave tears loose something in the body and they slowly bleed to death.
I think, postponed death has something to do with brain concussion (as finest and most delicate circuitry in the nature), not necessarily with latent hemorrhage. Whatever, vest armor efficacy against close explosion is far fetched, particularly light-weighted, with low acoustic impedance as in case of titanium-Kevlar plates.
And talking shrapnel, everything but chest are still exposed (face particularly).
Recap: if Dragon Skin protects from powerful handgun shot, it will do.
@currishev I see. Thank you. And you're right, as long as the armor protects against guns, it's worth it.
And indeed, armor that prevents a grenade from killing you is going to be quite a few years away. :) Like 30 or 40. :)
It's hard to cancel that much explosive energy.
We can't all be as "lucky" as that guy who got shot by an RPG and survived because the non-exploding part broke off in his torso. :) While the warhead kept on going.
@currishev but for explosions you want low acoustic impedance, that's why a lot of blast armor's have spaced plates since the air between them is a poor conductor of acoustic waves and particle speeds are low. So in a sense you want a high impedance material backed by a low impedance material because the shock wave transfer will be very limited.
Yes, blast armor must be laminated, but the 1st layer is to be structurally hard & acoustically dance (ideally shell of solid wolfram), then spongy layer, etc.. Hard structure & acoustic impedance alternation reflect & refract distributed wave energy, and lamination for its additional dissipation. Contrary, to be light-weighted, anti-bullet armor is based mainly on dissipation pointed kinetic energy between linked armor components & as shock absorber it must be strong but not hard.
@currishev I don't think you need the dense shell. l mean that is one way to do it but if you're just looking to eat up particle energy metal foams do the same thing by crushing over a given distance, and having such a high modulus material outside such as tungsten is only going to allow more or that acoustic wave to be transmitted to you since the shell will pick up more than a foam would by itself. The shell is useful if you are blocking fragments in addition to shock waves.
Foam would work based on diffraction or interference, meaning, pores must be smaller than length of monochromatic shock waves. Blast is not monochromatic. Besides, diffraction or interference do not reflect or dissipate energy but only redistribute it (that is dangerous for purpose of protection).
Suit of bomb squad, stealth airplane, road bomb resistant armored vehicles use wave energy deflection principle, if u compare their hulls.
@currishev foams soak up a lot of energy, compression waves in the foam cause massive attenuation of shock waves and there are large amounts of internal reflection caused by the high amount of internal free surfaces. It doesn't need to be smaller than the wave length because the point isn't diffraction, the compressive wave uses energy during plastic deformation and work hardening of the material.
Qualitative level of speculation can’t be conclusive. Foam can absorb some energy, but without math models or experiments no one can tell how much. I don’t know anything about such R&D.
If I had to choose , I would take Dragon Skin against piercing agents (bullets, arrows, light darts…) but medieval knight armor against shock waves, heavy spears, and shrapnel with much less than bullets piercing ability.
That settles our discussion, unless u refer me to scientific sources.
@currishev papers on foam attenuation of shock waves can be found by Baer of Sandia, ZhiHua YiFen HuiLan and LongMao of the "Key Laboratory of Explosion Science and Technology of Bejing" and the "Institute of Applied Mechanics and Biomedical Engineering", Karagiozova Langdon and Nurick of the "Institute of Mechanics in Bulgaria" and the "Blast Impact and Survivability Research Unit, Department of Mechanical Engineering University of Cape Town", Britan Liverts and Ben-Dor Shock Tube Laboratory
@currishev the list goes on, you could probably google it and find some free papers, those were just a sample of what I got off the University Online Journal list, I have about 14 other papers saved and there's a lot more out there.
@currishev In shock loading the compressive wave front moves faster than the acoustic velocity anyhow so the back wave discontinuities see a denser material than the compression front. Plus a bomb suit, assuming you mean the kevlar ones also work off deformation not reflection, successive layers of woven fabric push out absorbing, hopefully, the bulk of the blast energy. Although I will agree reflection off a dense hull plate is the current trend and if efficient enough is better.
Bullet, getting to a protective waistcoat though it doesn't punch, but breaks edges and an internal because of kinetic energy
For this reason there are no helmets which have sustained a shot from the automatic machine, after all the bullet though will get stuck outside of a helmet, but kinetic energy will destroy a brain
If to lay down on a grenade in this protective желете from an internal there will be one porridge
I am starting to doubt this guy is Ex-Navy Seal. He acts like he is surprised it stopped a 9mm, and a 5.56. Are you fucking kidding me? Regular Body Armor alone can stop that.
@TaKeMyKNiiFe Regular body armor can stop steel-core ammo that's armor piercing, and tears through a steel plate like it was made of Swiss cheese? Really? You do know that's what was used earlier, right?
He wasn't using normal ammo. He was using armor piercing ammo, that did nothing to this armor. Armor piercing! No normal body armor can shrug that off.
@DavidB1001 military armor is tested against the M2 AP, that's one of the highest penetrating munitions under .50 cal rounds. It out penetrates the M995 by 10 mm and modern ESAPI plates are tested against 6 M2 AP's.
@DavidB1001 what are you defining as "regular armor" all these things are standardized, depending on what level you're applying for the armor WILL be tested against armor piercing rounds. That follows for both military and NIJ armor standards. And while it did stop a grenade I highly doubt it'll stop a .50 cal they're completely different loading situations...it may stop an M2 AP.
@akzo74 Ah. Okay. I see. I was confused. I always thought military style body armor was all the same. Not that it had several different styles and types.
As for Dragon Skin, considering everything they threw at it, .50 cal might not go all the way through it. After all, it's the body armor of the future.
Eventually we will make body armor that will stop even .50 cal armor piercing rounds cold. :) Imagine Dragon skin combined with the tensile strength of spider silk. :)
@DavidB1001 haha well actually spider silk isn't as strong as kevlar or dyneema, but it's tougher with an elongation at break of around 26% compared to 2.4% which can be both good and bad for vests. It takes more deformation than the other fibers but by the time it breaks the bullet will be inside you so you'd really still need a hard plate behind it.
How much $ is one of these? Just like the one shown? Even with great Dragon Skin would I have to pay for an entire new vest after being hit even once?
@iluvmym4 It runs about 5000 bucks american go to pinnaclearmor doottt coomm and check it out just so you know this test failed the army test thats why the army dont use it at a higher temp than 100F the dics dont preform what so ever read up on it this is just marketing hype
I wonder how a 12 gauge slug would do against it, the slower velocity might keep it from shattering against the hard plates, if it did not shatter it might get through that's how hard body armor works, shatter the bullet rather than flatten it like soft armor does. even if it did not penetrate though it might cause some serious damage.
@aaa7ish actually hard armor mushrooms bullets too, it really just depends on the bullet material but steel core and even tungsten will flow out at high enough impact speeds.
@akzo74 I would like to see Them fire a .50 and a shotgun slug, at less than 30 feet the slug will probably be nastier(at least it is against flesh) shotgun slug is a much larger projectile about equivalent to 73 caliber and weighs a lot more, of course after 50 feet, the 50 would be what you want as the slug will start slowing down fast, and may even tumble.
since the grenade was stuck to the body armor, the resistance made it so that the pieces went flying in every direction... every body armor that can resist blast will resist a frag if it is stuck to it, having the frag a few inches away would give better results.
but you see, what i mean? why dont you just blast a rocket it at and test it?
only the devil can save you?
kingicered 5 days ago
he'd probably still be dead yes, but maybe not, that's not the point, they are testing how durable the vest is, not the human body.
MrDylanj04 1 week ago
its not the crap that hits u its the Gs u take so dont be amazed hed still be dead
Mr1PimpDaddy 1 week ago
YES BUT WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNAL DAMAGE TO THE RIBS AND ORGANS??? HUH HUH HUH?
kingicered 1 week ago
@kingicered You don't get to jump on a grenade and live if he did he would be vary lucky, if you jump on a nade your one crazy bastard.
SuperRiguy 6 days ago
Jugg RL!
LocalCommunist445O 1 week ago
9mmfags are just mad that their ammunition has no STOPPIN POWAH!!!!!
NTarant1 1 week ago
@NTarant1 Ever seen a bgel test of the damage caused by a remington golden saber 124g +P? Same rounds I have. One round "Seen in some of my favs" does tremendous damage about +12 inches and the perminant expansion cavity is as wide as the block. Now if I shot you once in the chest or even in the leg but I wound empty a 20 round clip in about a sec all over mostly at the head. Just one can kill by the shock. Even in the hand you would be dead by the feedback of shock. Simple shock kills
BrooklynXT1 1 week ago
@BrooklynXT1 Would*
BrooklynXT1 1 week ago
It's not like it would matter, being that close to the grenade would fuck your insides up just from the concussion
maddog4u31757 3 weeks ago
Id much rather be behind a sapi plate then this system, many individual armour plates are far less reliable than one large plate, anything could happen to any number of the individual plates if you saw anything wrong with the single sapi plate you could remove it and replace it compared to buying a whole new vest, just my opinion.
juliemaapeknyprdel 3 weeks ago
We need Dragon Skin trousers
jpiramirez 3 weeks ago
I'm buying this for when I have to go on tour
AribterRyan 3 weeks ago
@AribterRyan If you are in the Army that is a no-go at this station.
ssjrobert 2 weeks ago
The reason the us army doesnt use any other armour is because the type they use is put together by U.S prisoners, which is illegel and has been for years and goes against U N regulations, but America doesnt give a shit about human rights in the country but likes to police the world, just look at the new free press stats, usa 43rd in the world, mostly due to Fox
fuzzynostic 3 weeks ago
@fuzzynostic that is a bunch of bullshit
navyseal1548 2 weeks ago
@navyseal1548 is it? what part, the fact that prisoners work ? or the fact that the usa is 43rd look it up, i dont just make stuff up
fuzzynostic 4 days ago
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ssjrobert 2 weeks ago
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@fuzzynostic Really Fox? I think you are giving way too much influence to one news station. It is more then just one thing that has America in the shit hole it has become. Sorry your angry liberal brain can't process that though.
ssjrobert 2 weeks ago
si seran pendejos como si ese fuera la unica farte del cuerpo que ay que protejer ??
walter3805 1 month ago
"ive thrown everything i can at this, 5.56, 7.62... AND EVEN 9mm ROUNDS!
justAwatermelon13 1 month ago
yepp, the shockwave would blast ur lungs, but kinda stupid ''solidier: why dont we get the better dragonskin armour?'' ''us goverent: sry, but we invested money in another armour and we dont want to change so.... wear this, its crappy so... for god sake dontget urself shot''
Dorfanable 1 month ago
0:09 "EVEN 9MM ROUNDS!"
a peice of paper could stop a 9mm
NTarant1 1 month ago 14
@NTarant1 Sure ur flesh doesnt. How about that?
capmactavit 1 month ago
@NTarant1 you're an idiot. I'd like to see how you deal with a 9mm round to the face.
th4Guy77 2 weeks ago
@NTarant1 Lets wrap you up in paper and let me shoot you with a 9mm. Wouldn't be talking shit then.
ZhenProductions 1 week ago
No the main reason why they dont invest in dragonskin is because the pentagon already invested millions of dollars on the interceptor body armor and investing will just make the interceptor body armor money wasted
EmoRebecca18 1 month ago
if the shrapnal doesnt kill you wb the shockwave?
toysoldier656 1 month ago
why dont all solders wear this?
Syndacade 1 month ago
2:59 he covers another hole
Peaceinlifenowar 1 month ago
Considering this video was made more then 4 years ago now why do i get the impression that armor as good as or even comparable to that still isn't used by the US military today?
Armad0s13 2 months ago
@Armad0s13 cus the US are affected both by their shitty economy and the kevlar lobbyists.
sc3nt360 2 months ago
@1775novten first thank you and second you also have a sick profile name. And yes all body armor is produced by private companies but certain companies get government contracts and those are the products we use. And the army is restricted to using those companies respective body armor that is under government contract
11M10A17R75INES 2 months ago
Let me just clear this up quick. Yes the US Army banned dragon skin use but they also banned use of any body armor produced by private companies. However in other branches such as the Marine Corps we are still allowed to use other armor but it is suggested we "wear standard Marine Corps issue body armor as it has been properly tested and is up to Marine Corps regulations."
11M10A17R75INES 2 months ago
@11M10A17R75INES First, digging your profile name. Also just wanted to clarify that all body armor is produced by private companies, but also agree that it must go through proper government witnessed T&E before it is issued to any troops.
1775novten 2 months ago
U.S. Military could find that the vest after explosive is no longer useable (we saw the ring near the explosive zone) but the stantard armor will be useless to and still we see that dragon shin is more flexible. The hole at 0:15 is on last ring in line. That is a blind spot. This ring is only connected left side. It's isn't perfekt but still better then any others
olmcgal 2 months ago
I always slap on a dragon skin before penetration.
5HREDD3R 2 months ago
240p, we meet again...
halofannatic 3 months ago 4
wow really you people need to look at issued armor its fucking kevlar on top of steel plates and weighs a fuck ton you can practically make it in your garage
uglyfaceboytoucher 3 months ago
intercepter is what we use and its shit idk who would talk shit on this stuff its the most beautiful thing i have ever seen. the only reason we dont use it is political
uglyfaceboytoucher 3 months ago
Soldiers don't use this armor because it melts. At least thats why i heard.
JewishCommentator 3 months ago
test armor piercing
GeneralSchultz 3 months ago
The blast would still break ribs through the armour
33COOLStreet 3 months ago
@33COOLStreet its meant to stop bullets from piercing through you
MrDruloXD 3 months ago
@MrDruloXD I was talking about the grenade sorry , yes it is good against bullets but you wouldn't get up after that grenade
33COOLStreet 3 months ago
Now please make a whole suit and you've got a Juggernaut.
kellycolburn1 3 months ago 2
Wait... a f*cking grenade?!?!?!
TanManAndWhiteBoy 3 months ago
At the beginning i thought he was gonna use a sniper gun
XxxXMineXxxX 3 months ago
The only problem with this armor is that the plate carrier is Fricken Huge and when you get you muticam on there... your gonna be packing some serious weight
PuRpLeXkoBrA 3 months ago
now lets see this actually put to use in war. hahaha its funny because it won't probably ever make it to troops
sassy2161 3 months ago
30 people are terrorists
FlyingTigerRy 3 months ago
bruno mars loves this.
Tual2 4 months ago
Holy shit even the biggest pansie can go in the army with one of those
vuur150 4 months ago
still it wouldn't protect if you stepped on a landmine
navylaks2 4 months ago
he cover a hole at 0:15 on the left part of the vest
naughtydogsairsoft8 4 months ago 38
@naughtydogsairsoft8
Notice the hole in the corner of the vest @ 2:35 which he did the same @ 3:00.
realmendontwhine 4 months ago
@naughtydogsairsoft8 one hole out of how many bullets?
smoky281 4 months ago
@naughtydogsairsoft8
I think this part isn't armoured because it is at the edge of the vest. This is usually the case with body armour
stevenhenry 3 months ago
@naughtydogsairsoft8 i think i can let the one hole slide... i know its dealing with peoples lives but if you get shot that much honestly you are probably gonna be dead just from the impact of the rounds
GStew141 2 months ago
it probably didn't even penetrate the armor anyway
XxWolfpack247xX 2 months ago
@naughtydogsairsoft8 true
gedziq 2 months ago
@naughtydogsairsoft8 Left? its on the right you idiot
WadaZable 1 month ago
@WadaZable depends on what side are you looking at it from, idiot.
MarshuCSS 1 month ago
@MarshuCSS You alwasy look at the side you are looking from. Not from another perspective then your own.
WadaZable 1 month ago
@WadaZable That's the exact reason why ignorant people exist.
MarshuCSS 1 month ago
@MarshuCSS Like you.
WadaZable 1 month ago
@naughtydogsairsoft8 thats the side he shot at, of course there is holes, and earlier he showed the other side and NO HOLES.
prizegotti 2 weeks ago
@naughtydogsairsoft8 yes but if you look at the end of part one there is no hole inside and that is what matters
MrBubssen 1 week ago
yeah... a granades shockwave dosent care about the body armor, it goes right trough you and ruptures your organes.
Cobolta3 4 months ago
Our troops need to wear this!
DeMoNMiNdLS 4 months ago
BOBS LIKE FUCK U GUYS..... U GUYS SUCK. UR NOT REAL FRIENDS
kjdjsiujekjjs 4 months ago
wtb nanotech self repair
T3CHnGaming 4 months ago
the handgrante part is shit, the shockwave gonna rip ur guts apart.
nolifemerc 4 months ago
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nolifemerc 4 months ago
Although you might survive, That grenade would launch you several feet into the air and would hurt so much you would pass out.
TheHappyWhaleshark 5 months ago
@TheHappyWhaleshark
why didN't it launche the dummy several feet into the air?
BuscoBeast 4 months ago
@BuscoBeast this isnt the movies kid, thats why.
DGK201 4 months ago
@TheHappyWhaleshark nah you wont survive the shockwave will rip your lungs due to huge air pressure difference near the blast
drawmaster77 1 month ago
ultimate test my ass, shoot it with a .50 sniper rifle or put it agains a frag grenade to see how it fares
petelebu 5 months ago
@petelebu Try it with Bunker Buster bombs.:D
chng10 4 months ago
thats cool, but being 5m close to a grenade is instant death by concussion.
SoldierCyfix 5 months ago
"surely the vest couldn't bla bla bla...". why does he talk like that. just talk like a normal damn person. this isnt a kids show.
schm147 5 months ago
silly rc-xd's u cant kill me i have flak jacket...uh oh i mean drakon skin
IHeartBama1 5 months ago
even a frag grenade POINT BLANK couldnt defeat dragon skin.
the only things that can beat a dragon skin armor is:
1: 50.cal
2: any anti-tank missle
3: nuke
4: Congress
5: the military testers. obviously they doctored the results for DS.
Tual2 5 months ago
@Tual2 the force would still kill you sadly but it is an amazing armor no doubt
zero7511 5 months ago
dude...its not about the resistance to 50.cal, when it was designed it was intended to render al-Qaeda ak 47s virtually useless. well at least al-qaeda does not use 50 calibers.
Tual2 5 months ago
I dislike this video because the military bureaucrats are a bunch of penny-pinching fuck-asses who didn't have the sense to issue this armor to our troops overseas. God help us all with whoever runs this military being so fucktarded.
ChrisspacePatti 5 months ago
That's what my condoms are made of, and they still break :-(
thefinder808 5 months ago
why dont you try a 50.cal sniper?
BlackmanTheJock 5 months ago
@BlackmanTheJock It can only protect so much, and a .50 cal would just rip through it like nothing.
ARX7ARBALESTZ7 5 months ago
Wouldn't you die from the shock wave though?
115xxxCeReAlKi11eRxx 5 months ago 2
@115xxxCeReAlKi11eRxx probably but you do have a higher chance of survival compared to being shredded apart.
MrCythos 5 months ago
@115xxxCeReAlKi11eRxx Yea as I watched this I had the same question. The shockwave from that grenade is at least like what, 500 g's up close? I'm not entirely sure but the dragon skin couldn't have absorbed that much. I think it takes 100g's to kill a man or something like that, and there's no way dragon skin could have protected against all that. Also, I think they should have tested the 7.62x51mm. If it could survive something like that, over 3000 J, that'd be something amazing.
DeusGladiorum 5 months ago
Who Will Be Too Damn Stupid To Lie On The Grenade?
Bunyau87 5 months ago
@Bunyau87 the ones who want to protect their fellow teammates by sacrificing themselves.
MrCythos 5 months ago
@MrCythos Hahaha...Instead Of Died By Explosion,That Guy Would Suffer Permanent Deafness.
Bunyau87 5 months ago
@Bunyau87 I would rather be deaf than dead.
SGTBizarro 5 months ago
All branches of our Military should wear this body armor. They deserve the best equipment available to protect this Great country. God bless our men and women in U.S. Military.
buckshots500 5 months ago 10
@buckshots500 Damn right.
lordpoee 5 months ago
@buckshots500 The reason that we don't wear this is because Congress decided to have a .50 BMG shot at it. A test that WAS NOT performed on the current body armor that we have.
Can you say "pay off"?
MrEmango1 4 months ago
@MrEmango1
There's very little that can stop a 0.50 BMG. that's a friggin anti material round. (only the biggest sniper rifles, etc)
Annihilatron 4 months ago
@buckshots500
Its not worn because the glue that is used to hold the plates in place, melts in hot climates, so it is rendered near useless in the middle east. I'm guessing that they're working on a new way to hold the plates in place.
2013branth 4 months ago
@buckshots500 to bad its banned by the us goverment, only CIA have it i think
andreasyoman 3 months ago
@buckshots500 i think we all know what would save more lives than this, bringing our troops home to stop fighting these pointless wars, its cheaper and would save money to get this
TheAlexagius 3 months ago
@buckshots500
they should but you know how much money that would cost
sassy2161 3 months ago
@buckshots500 Deserve the best they may, unfortunately this body armor doesn't come close.
joe4678 3 months ago
@buckshots500 Fuck you
Squidien 3 months ago
@buckshots500 You know this armour was tested by the army a few years ago now and failed
harrisontan 2 months ago
Im not all that surprised that a .223 (5.56) nor that the 9mm (provided if they were using pistol rounds) didn't damage much, and depending on the grain of the bullet, Im impressed if they were using 165+ grain bullets from the 7.62. But a damn grenade? im interested if it could take a harder hitting cartridge, like a 33 caliber for a .408. But with the grenade, while the shrapnel may not kill you, id think surely the shock wave would still fuck you up a little, like tnt in water.
fishreaper 5 months ago
I would be willing to bet that an interceptor vest would stop the grenade too; Jason Dunham, who jumped on a grenade to save his squad, only died because a piece of shrapnel hit his head.
inkbot2000 5 months ago
Grenade will kill with shock wave via air and tissues, not with piercing shrapnel. Modern wars are full of cases when on corpses near an explosion were with no cuts or even bruises. Some dye days after shock waves concussion.
currishev 6 months ago
@currishev You are correct. Most fragmentation grenades however are designed to kill via shrapnel, not shock wave. As for dying several days later, I believe that would be because the shock wave tears loose something in the body and they slowly bleed to death.
DavidB1001 6 months ago
@DavidB1001
I think, postponed death has something to do with brain concussion (as finest and most delicate circuitry in the nature), not necessarily with latent hemorrhage. Whatever, vest armor efficacy against close explosion is far fetched, particularly light-weighted, with low acoustic impedance as in case of titanium-Kevlar plates.
And talking shrapnel, everything but chest are still exposed (face particularly).
Recap: if Dragon Skin protects from powerful handgun shot, it will do.
currishev 6 months ago
@currishev I see. Thank you. And you're right, as long as the armor protects against guns, it's worth it.
And indeed, armor that prevents a grenade from killing you is going to be quite a few years away. :) Like 30 or 40. :)
It's hard to cancel that much explosive energy.
We can't all be as "lucky" as that guy who got shot by an RPG and survived because the non-exploding part broke off in his torso. :) While the warhead kept on going.
DavidB1001 6 months ago
@DavidB1001 No, shock wave protection is technologically simplier, it just has opposite mechanical characteristics and design than anti bullet one.
currishev 6 months ago
@currishev but for explosions you want low acoustic impedance, that's why a lot of blast armor's have spaced plates since the air between them is a poor conductor of acoustic waves and particle speeds are low. So in a sense you want a high impedance material backed by a low impedance material because the shock wave transfer will be very limited.
akzo74 6 months ago
@akzo74
Yes, blast armor must be laminated, but the 1st layer is to be structurally hard & acoustically dance (ideally shell of solid wolfram), then spongy layer, etc.. Hard structure & acoustic impedance alternation reflect & refract distributed wave energy, and lamination for its additional dissipation. Contrary, to be light-weighted, anti-bullet armor is based mainly on dissipation pointed kinetic energy between linked armor components & as shock absorber it must be strong but not hard.
currishev 6 months ago
@currishev I don't think you need the dense shell. l mean that is one way to do it but if you're just looking to eat up particle energy metal foams do the same thing by crushing over a given distance, and having such a high modulus material outside such as tungsten is only going to allow more or that acoustic wave to be transmitted to you since the shell will pick up more than a foam would by itself. The shell is useful if you are blocking fragments in addition to shock waves.
akzo74 6 months ago
@akzo74
Foam would work based on diffraction or interference, meaning, pores must be smaller than length of monochromatic shock waves. Blast is not monochromatic. Besides, diffraction or interference do not reflect or dissipate energy but only redistribute it (that is dangerous for purpose of protection).
Suit of bomb squad, stealth airplane, road bomb resistant armored vehicles use wave energy deflection principle, if u compare their hulls.
currishev 6 months ago
@currishev foams soak up a lot of energy, compression waves in the foam cause massive attenuation of shock waves and there are large amounts of internal reflection caused by the high amount of internal free surfaces. It doesn't need to be smaller than the wave length because the point isn't diffraction, the compressive wave uses energy during plastic deformation and work hardening of the material.
akzo74 6 months ago
@akzo74
Qualitative level of speculation can’t be conclusive. Foam can absorb some energy, but without math models or experiments no one can tell how much. I don’t know anything about such R&D.
If I had to choose , I would take Dragon Skin against piercing agents (bullets, arrows, light darts…) but medieval knight armor against shock waves, heavy spears, and shrapnel with much less than bullets piercing ability.
That settles our discussion, unless u refer me to scientific sources.
currishev 5 months ago
@currishev papers on foam attenuation of shock waves can be found by Baer of Sandia, ZhiHua YiFen HuiLan and LongMao of the "Key Laboratory of Explosion Science and Technology of Bejing" and the "Institute of Applied Mechanics and Biomedical Engineering", Karagiozova Langdon and Nurick of the "Institute of Mechanics in Bulgaria" and the "Blast Impact and Survivability Research Unit, Department of Mechanical Engineering University of Cape Town", Britan Liverts and Ben-Dor Shock Tube Laboratory
akzo74 5 months ago
@currishev the list goes on, you could probably google it and find some free papers, those were just a sample of what I got off the University Online Journal list, I have about 14 other papers saved and there's a lot more out there.
akzo74 5 months ago
@akzo74 Now I see, you are more versed on the subject than me,
Thnx
currishev 5 months ago
@akzo74 Now I see, you are more versed on the subject than me,
Thnx
currishev 5 months ago
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@akzo74 Now I see, you are more versed on the subject than me,
Thnx
currishev 5 months ago
@currishev In shock loading the compressive wave front moves faster than the acoustic velocity anyhow so the back wave discontinuities see a denser material than the compression front. Plus a bomb suit, assuming you mean the kevlar ones also work off deformation not reflection, successive layers of woven fabric push out absorbing, hopefully, the bulk of the blast energy. Although I will agree reflection off a dense hull plate is the current trend and if efficient enough is better.
akzo74 6 months ago
now we need mythbusters and their G-shock stickers to tell us how many Gs the dummy took and weather or not it's survivable.
bo4arrow 6 months ago
Fragment with a grenade - it's totally ludicrous
Bullet, getting to a protective waistcoat though it doesn't punch, but breaks edges and an internal because of kinetic energy
For this reason there are no helmets which have sustained a shot from the automatic machine, after all the bullet though will get stuck outside of a helmet, but kinetic energy will destroy a brain
If to lay down on a grenade in this protective желете from an internal there will be one porridge
sss7773 6 months ago
poor bob
meisterjager66 6 months ago
I am starting to doubt this guy is Ex-Navy Seal. He acts like he is surprised it stopped a 9mm, and a 5.56. Are you fucking kidding me? Regular Body Armor alone can stop that.
TaKeMyKNiiFe 6 months ago
@TaKeMyKNiiFe Yes he's ex-Seal. He's just playing the part of his TV persona and acting for greater effect.
HerpDerpFlerp 6 months ago
@TaKeMyKNiiFe Regular body armor can stop steel-core ammo that's armor piercing, and tears through a steel plate like it was made of Swiss cheese? Really? You do know that's what was used earlier, right?
He wasn't using normal ammo. He was using armor piercing ammo, that did nothing to this armor. Armor piercing! No normal body armor can shrug that off.
DavidB1001 6 months ago
@DavidB1001 military armor is tested against the M2 AP, that's one of the highest penetrating munitions under .50 cal rounds. It out penetrates the M995 by 10 mm and modern ESAPI plates are tested against 6 M2 AP's.
akzo74 6 months ago
@akzo74 Okay. Good to know.
All I know, is that previously, he used steel-core armor piercing rounds on the Dragon Skin, and it didn't do anything.
However, regular body armor is not tested against armor piercing rounds. :) For obvious reasons.
Would Dragon skin stand up to a .50 cal or a M2 AP, I don't know.
Considering it's grenade proof, I think so. Maybe they should just fire a LAWS rocket just to see if it does anything.. :)
DavidB1001 6 months ago
@DavidB1001 what are you defining as "regular armor" all these things are standardized, depending on what level you're applying for the armor WILL be tested against armor piercing rounds. That follows for both military and NIJ armor standards. And while it did stop a grenade I highly doubt it'll stop a .50 cal they're completely different loading situations...it may stop an M2 AP.
akzo74 6 months ago
@akzo74 Ah. Okay. I see. I was confused. I always thought military style body armor was all the same. Not that it had several different styles and types.
As for Dragon Skin, considering everything they threw at it, .50 cal might not go all the way through it. After all, it's the body armor of the future.
Eventually we will make body armor that will stop even .50 cal armor piercing rounds cold. :) Imagine Dragon skin combined with the tensile strength of spider silk. :)
DavidB1001 6 months ago
@DavidB1001 haha well actually spider silk isn't as strong as kevlar or dyneema, but it's tougher with an elongation at break of around 26% compared to 2.4% which can be both good and bad for vests. It takes more deformation than the other fibers but by the time it breaks the bullet will be inside you so you'd really still need a hard plate behind it.
akzo74 6 months ago
@akzo74 Ah. Okay. I don't know that much about those things, but I do know a lot of random things. :)
I think that makes up for it.
I do hope someday we can come up with really amazing body armor. Maybe the reinforced Steelsilk from Alpha Centauri. :)
DavidB1001 6 months ago
i think hi broke some bones
hussen50 6 months ago
The guy in the glasses is thinking " Better pay for that shit"
psp5150g 6 months ago 2
WTF dude? Are you serious? You even believe its really a dragon skin? Stupid.
anjopaj 6 months ago
if bullets cant break dragons skin how did we kill and skin them in the first place
normalperson100 6 months ago
@alexpetrunak Calm down, kid.
You know just stop replying, you're wasting my time, you "win" this arguement k?
forgetfulmandude 6 months ago
@alexpetrunak No.. not really.. You don't know what you're talking about kid
forgetfulmandude 6 months ago
@alexpetrunak Cause it's EXPENSIVE.
forgetfulmandude 6 months ago
with that think is running impossible
Sharinganfighter 6 months ago
@alexpetrunak for the same reason are map protractors are made by the blind, the army awards their contracts to the lowest bidder.
BlackholeInfinite 6 months ago
@alexpetrunak Too expensive. Not worth the soldiers life.
LtLethal1 6 months ago
Press 2 over and over. 0:18 Thats what she said.
freefield53 6 months ago 30
@freefield53 So she has a dick?
kelvinoalbino 6 months ago
@kelvinoalbino oops you're right, that's what he said
freefield53 6 months ago
@freefield53 I wanna know how far I can push it!
gluemuncher1986 6 months ago
@freefield53 Thats what he said 3:28
ziccy7 5 months ago
How much does this cost?
Thousands, millions? thousands or millions?
Jamsessionroom1337 6 months ago
nice.... although at 2:35 , when he zooms in you can see a hole to the bottom ( right "wing" ) . just saying....
stevestizzy 6 months ago
does anyone know what it weighs? or comparison to current body armor for how heavy?
capatheist 6 months ago
@capatheist its made out of titanium so lighter than steel
forgetfulmandude 6 months ago
@forgetfulmandude actually the discs are composite.
akzo74 6 months ago
Those r Chuck Norris pj's
cat11112222 6 months ago 2
How much $ is one of these? Just like the one shown? Even with great Dragon Skin would I have to pay for an entire new vest after being hit even once?
iluvmym4 6 months ago
@iluvmym4 It runs about 5000 bucks american go to pinnaclearmor doottt coomm and check it out just so you know this test failed the army test thats why the army dont use it at a higher temp than 100F the dics dont preform what so ever read up on it this is just marketing hype
rogerrogerdlf 6 months ago
Chuck norris's Underpants are made of this
museman98 6 months ago
I wonder how a 12 gauge slug would do against it, the slower velocity might keep it from shattering against the hard plates, if it did not shatter it might get through that's how hard body armor works, shatter the bullet rather than flatten it like soft armor does. even if it did not penetrate though it might cause some serious damage.
aaa7ish 6 months ago
@aaa7ish actually hard armor mushrooms bullets too, it really just depends on the bullet material but steel core and even tungsten will flow out at high enough impact speeds.
akzo74 6 months ago
@akzo74 I would like to see Them fire a .50 and a shotgun slug, at less than 30 feet the slug will probably be nastier(at least it is against flesh) shotgun slug is a much larger projectile about equivalent to 73 caliber and weighs a lot more, of course after 50 feet, the 50 would be what you want as the slug will start slowing down fast, and may even tumble.
aaa7ish 6 months ago
how about the MK2 fragmentation grenade or pineapple fragmentation grenade
janmauricepogi 6 months ago
since the grenade was stuck to the body armor, the resistance made it so that the pieces went flying in every direction... every body armor that can resist blast will resist a frag if it is stuck to it, having the frag a few inches away would give better results.
Keithketchup 6 months ago
the first thing i do when i see a grenade is lay on it
HTVlog 6 months ago
The next Future Weapons episode: Removing the Calibre Measuremnet system.
blackvenom530 6 months ago