Dude to whoever thinks they are not on Drugs ..You must be out your fuckin mind Just cause they have only admitted they smoke bud doesnt mean they dont fuck with other shit you would never know .. either way SYSTEM OF A DOWN is METAL.
serge is great!! i love the way he changes his voice so easily hes actually a damn good singer!! they kick ass live ! great performance!! wow great solo!!
omg, 3:40 , daron, hilarious, i laughted my ass off, these guys are so high on their live performances, i love this band because they are so crazy and innovative!
@thisisdannyyea they all smoke weed, in fact serj is one of them who indulges in it the most. none of them really do hard drugs, as far as i know. the only one who is clean is John.
serj probably drinks but i know for a fact he doesn't do weed. first off, NO ONE is as hyper as serj is at a concert when they're high off weed. And he's made comments before about being against weed. He may have smoked when they first began but he's been very anti drug use and so has the bassist.
Garren's the one who does smoke but i don't think he smokes a lot, maybe a little bit before a concert or every once in awhile. As for the drummer: i don't play drums so i never cared lol.
@Grunge00125 you're completely wrong actually, there's pictures of every last one of them smokin weed except the drummer. dairon, serj and shavo all indulge in it. and who are you to rate guitarists lol? youre probably some hormonal 14 year old living with your parents that can't play for shit. haha grow up, kid.
Do you feel like you've achieved something? I'm seen them live multiple times and have heard serj say anti drug stuff on stage. Hell, maybe they're against it but do it anyways: Dave grohl smoked for years(prob still does) and he's against it. So are MGMT but there is a video with them smoking weed and i'm sure they do other drugs too. Plus Shavo does like youth stuff so i doubt he smokes much.
Anyways, as i was saying: weed is such an unneeded part of the world that i don't understand why you
feel the need to insult me(which I'm not 14 btw and I'm sure i could play guitar better than you if you play at all) over that and that I said Darren wasn't a good guitarist, which he's not that great. As I said, I can easily name 30 guitar players who are better in every way than him both technical wise, style wise and uniqueness. It's not an opinion: if you actually knew anything about music beyond your obviously small mental capacity, you'd realize he isn't that good at all.
@Grunge00125 claiming what u are saying is not an opinion is completely wrong because i've been playing drum for almost 3 years now and performing with my band for 1.5 years now and darren is a good guitarist actually, he may not be the best to u but that doesnt give u the right to say that right to say that wat u r saying is fact not opinion, and i do believe he is one the the top 30 guitarist not because this band is fkin awesome but all the songs they have done in which he plays good rhythms
@Grunge00125 SOAD is my favorite band of all time probably forever lol, but I agree with you. However, I don't really consider Daron a guitarist, he's more a singer/songwriter type of dude who plays rhythm guitar mostly :).
@LithuanianGuitar Daron said his self that before he started make music he wanted to play drums, but his parents wouldn't let him because it can't be turned off; so his parents bought him a guitar. :D
@Grunge00125 He is good. This music flows within him and to the audience. You sir do not understand music. Music isn't about whom is better at playing, it's about what makes you feel good. And sorry to say for you bro, but Daron Malakian makes people move with his music. So yes he is a good guitarist.
I understand quite a lot about music, probably more than you and 90% of System of a Down's fans since they all think for whatever reason that Daron MAlakian is some god guitarist.
Anyways, no, music isn't about how good you are at playing but saying Daron is even close to one of the best guitarists is bullshit. Wanna talk about "making people move"? Okay, fine, Sonic Youth show very little guitar skill, yet know a lot about tones and sound in generally and lots of people like them.
No. They don't at all. He plays using a scale(forget the name) that is used in many middle eastern and oriental music and is very popular in asian countries(asian including the middle east.) It doesn't transcend musical norms: Sonic Youth, My bloody Valentine, and Gorguts transcend musical norms. Tool and Neptune transcends musical norms. Daron Malakian does not do anything even close to transcending musical norms. He simply uses a scale not used in western culture. that doesn't transcend at all
@Grunge00125 Sonic Youth's bass is much more superior to their one-riff repetitive guitar. And no offence, but I just listened to a few songs for My Bloody Valentine, and I gotta say one of the most boring and repetitive pieces of music I have ever heared of. By the way, music is not what scale you use it is how you transform the transcendent energy into musical notes that we hear.
Sonic Youth has done repetitive music since the 1990 or 1991, whenever Goo came out(that was the last album where they were repetitive. And My Bloody Valentine is shoegaze, it's not supposed to be super energetic fast music. And considering they have 2 albums, both of which i own and have never heard a repetitive song on(unless you consider having song strucutre repetitive, which SOAD has too so that'd be hypocritical). And Daron doesn't transfor anything, he doesn't even look like he's into
the music most of the time aside from doing classic "metal" shit on stage. As I said: I'm not saying he;s a bad guitarist, I just hate how fans of bands like SOAD, or Korn, or various other nu metal/alternative metal/rock bands think their favorite guitarists are amazing guitar players when they're really not. And to talk about music transforming notes into transcendent energy when you just said sonic youth and MBV sucks, when they do it better than most bands? please, that's BS
1. I said nu metal/alternative metal/rock. I never specified which one, I simply grouped them all together.
2. I didn't say Korn sucked, I said their fans act like they have the best guitarists ever when they're not, they simply find ways to use effects to make noises, something MBV, Sonic Youth, The Cure, and plenty of bands have been doing forever. Korn also did not start the current alt metal scene, the Deftones did. They started first, and are more alternative than Korn. Korn is kinda their
own genre: not enough rap influnces to make them nu metal, but they don't really have the rock influences that alternative metal has(that is, SOAD and Deftones have some more verse chorus verse and less heavy rock sound, whereas korn is almost always metal except a few ballady stuff on their past few albums. )
3. the way you talked about SY and MBV implied that you thought they suck.
4. Founder of metal? Daron Malakian? No. Not at all. Daron Malakian has done very little for metal. All he's
done for metal is introduce middle eastern scales to people who enjoy popular music. That's nothing new: Asian bands have used it for the past few centuries(not for guitar but for various instruments) and thrash, speed, and death metal has been using it for quite a long time. Hell, even prog metal and prog rock do it from time to time.
So yeah. Big deal: A guy is in an alt metal band that got really popular and is relatively heavy. Doesn't change the fact that he is far from the best musician
in any aspect. Whether or not it has to do with "the way he transcends the notes" or whatever is merely opinionated: people think the same about Nirvana, who have standard pop format song and only use power chords, and people also thin kthat about Necrophagist, which is technical death metal and is endless riffing for 4 minutes each song. From a musicians standpoint, he is not the best, he's far from it. From what he has shown the outside world, he's not that good. Better than most popular metal
bands such as slipknot(their guitarists actually are good but I think Daron knows more in a theory aspect cause a lot of slipknot songs are similar.) But that's not saying much at all. And you can't give the arguement of "maybe Daron Malakian can play very technical music but chooses not to) because i used to be an avid SOAD fan and he's never shown anything that takes more skill than the solo in Lonely Days.
So you're left with an opinionated statement, or known facts. Saying that either of
those aren't valid arguments, would be like saying the smallest part of an atom is called a "quantum lightbulb." From what we know, that cannot be a valid statement because we don't know that. And you can't say "well, we don't know that for a fact so i say it's true" because that just doesn't make sense.
@Grunge00125 What are you talking about here? I am never quite sure how you got from a discussion about music to quantum mechanics. Anyways, I never said Daron is the best guitarist. His playing style, riffs, and solos are unique and that's what most SOAD fans like. Plus, when I was talking about the founder of metal, I clearly stated that it was KoRn and not Daron. If you do not believe me do your homework.
You said the founder of metal. Korn is not the founder of metal. They're not even the founder of a metal genre. Some people consider them the first nu metal band but as stated, they're a lot different than most nu metal bands. The founders of metal are....well there's a lot of bands that actually could be the first metal band.
Aside from that, most SOAD fans think Daron is the best fucking guitar player ever. And that annoys me. He barely transcends anything, as i said the scales he uses are
Actually Korn and SOAD started around the same time, but Korn had a more established sound and had their first album before SOAD released any music at all. SOAD is also more of alternative metal: Nu metal has hip hop influences: DJs, rhyming vocals, sometimes rapping, and the drum and bass usually play as if they're beats, not in a rock format(Like Korn and Limp Biskit's bass and guitar work.). SOAD has rapping sometimes but that's it: The guitar is more like heavy alternative music and every
other instrument(drums and bass) are generic metal influenced. So SOAD is alternative metal, which they also did not start(Deftones were the first completely Alt Metal band.). SOAD was simply heavy yet poppy. Their songs are heavy(mostly because they use drop c tuning in most songs) but really catchy and they never released a bad album and never strayed too far from their initial sound except the occasional softer songs on Mes and Hyp. They were simply the Nirvana of metal: They took a genre
that was underground and became famous with it. Which is an achievement, but like Nirvana, it seems SOAD fans think that SOAD has great musicians and they're ground breaking when they aren't. they can make pop songs with metal, go them, but that doesn't make them good musicians nor does it make them any better than their peers(i.e. Derek Malakian is not better than Head from Korn or Jim Root from Slipknot just because he's sold more albums.)
@Grunge00125 Most importantly, "Transcending musical norms" is obvious in your own statement where Daron uses scales that are not used in current popular music (which is considered to be the "musical norms"). He simply does what is undone.
actually quite popular in classical music and outside of western culture rock/metal(even then, metal uses it quite a lot when it comes to shredding.) So yes, he is unique, and he's far from bad. I just hate the fans who(and trust me, a good majority think like this) that he's the fucking shit because he had a song in guitar hero and because he has a good solo in lonely day. And they all act like(like most fans of any band do) that no matter what happens, he's always the best.
None of the members of half japanese know how to even tune a guitar, yet they influenced post punk, punk, grunge, and alternative rock. Sunn O))) is just feedback induced mind fucks of noise and people like them. So no, having people like you, or being in a popular band, or attempting to be inovative(which Daron isn't even close to inovative) does not make you good at guitar. He is talented. I think if he chose to play a different style than metal/rock or played harder metal, lots of people
would consider him an amazing guitarist, i mean the scale he uses is quite unique in the US and West Europe. But he doesn't, so that potential doesn't do anything for him. So yeah, sure, he has a relatively unique style(its just unique to the US and European cultures) and he was in a popular metal band. That doesn't change the fact that there a lot of guitarists, both skill wise, and inovation wise and "emotion wise" if you want to call it that. A LOT of better guitarists.
he's probably too high or drunk lol. Either him or Daron use drugs(when toxicity was written and shown to the band, whichever member does drugs was against the lyrics) and i think it's him: he always s live and he never really eems out of it when they play and he doesn't talk much. :P whereas daron has too much energy to do anythin unless he's on speed or crack XD
he's probably too high or drunk lol. Either him or Daron use drugs(when toxicity was written and shown to the band, whichever member does drugs was against the lyrics) and i think it's him: he always s live and he never really eems out of it when they play and he doesn't talk much. :P whereas daron has too much energy to do anythin unless he's on speed or crack XD
Darren? Top 30 guitarists of all time??? Try any progressive rock/metal band, jazz/fusion, or technical/experimental metal/death metal band. I can think of WELL more than 30 guitarists who are better in both technique and in their own style sort of way. MAYBE the top 150 just because he has a unique blend of many influences that, unlike most guitarists, he has a near perfect combination of in his style, but he's definitely not in the top 30 at all.
Now in terms of a popular band, yes, he may be one of the top 50 guitarists of all time for a mainstream band. He may not play hard music, but he improvises live to a degree and can show off his skills from time to time(like the solo in lonely day) so i mean yeah he's a good guitarist and i think his style is incredibly unique. But as i said, outside of mainstream music genres, going into more underground stuff you'll find tons of better guitar players.
play: second chord on 9,10,12,13 and 15 semitones.. these are the notes try to figure out the exact number of hits daron's playing and also follow the rhythm :)
Everyone's saying Daron's on something. There is such thing called "Stage Ecstasy" you know. You get "high" off of the feeling of just rocking out in front of people. Also, it's really hard to play any instrument when high.
AMen to that. My favorite band is the band called Deftones. Chino used to make some silly things onstage, still rocking the shit though, but people said " My god he's so high ". But it's just the mood that catches you.
System is the GREATEST band to ever live!!!!!!!!!! <3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
PooplickThe 2 months ago
5 people shouldn't live on this planet anymore
pro100Player1 2 months ago
piano tabs?
leiitoohVC 3 months ago 2
serj is the only on how lost weight now they are back again
camiel221 4 months ago
Dude to whoever thinks they are not on Drugs ..You must be out your fuckin mind Just cause they have only admitted they smoke bud doesnt mean they dont fuck with other shit you would never know .. either way SYSTEM OF A DOWN is METAL.
MrSOAD92 6 months ago
Wow Shavo and Darrrrron are on that goood shit ahahah GREATEST BAND EVER.
MrSOAD92 6 months ago
I was there! Best time ever.
majica26 7 months ago
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AlexVsAlex10 7 months ago
Daron in a Party Hard
ZManzaniithaw 8 months ago
daron is THE fucking man, xD
DaOJCode 10 months ago
ha pause at EXACTLY 0:06
Daron's a backwards little teapot short and crazy
GALM1CIPHER93 11 months ago
lol Daron fail so much at 3:42
bergi03 11 months ago
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lol Daron fail so much at 3:42
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bergi03 11 months ago
what does Serj whisper at 0:35 ?
yanzaa1 11 months ago
BEST OUTRO EVER
mariopainthero11 11 months ago
man Daron's a fucking zombie when he's high hahaha
btd96 1 year ago
You listen to metallica if you want to be cool. You listen to System of a Down if you fell what true music comming out of a soul is.
Enkidu505 1 year ago
@Enkidu505 Or you listen to Metallica because you happen to like Metallica.....
TheSicknessIsTheCure 6 months ago
What the HELL is Daron doing in the beginning?! :D
ClaraVivendi 1 year ago
thats just one of those solos that just crawls under your skin. thats awesome stuff. wow.
TheDarkness1020 1 year ago
daron is crazy. daron is amazing
555shark 1 year ago
The Siccest (Best) band in the World xD
Mirrosalone 1 year ago
SYSTEM IS BACK !!!!!!!! WOOHOOO !!!!!!
Yppy26 1 year ago
oh yes.....in June,IT GOES DOWN!!!!!!!!
k5lta 1 year ago
haha 2:51 serj's voice is still breaking
DarkstarRichii95 1 year ago
beste psycho live performance on youtube.
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serge is great!! i love the way he changes his voice so easily hes actually a damn good singer!! they kick ass live ! great performance!! wow great solo!!
slipknotftw1000 1 year ago
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serge is great!! i love the way he changes his voice so easily hes actually a damn good singer!! they kick ass live ! great performance!!
slipknotftw1000 1 year ago
serge is great!! i love the way he changes his voice so easily hes actually a damn good singer!! they kick ass live ! great performance
slipknotftw1000 1 year ago 4
@slipknotftw1000
it´s Serj not serge :D
fatboymachinegun 1 year ago
serge is great!! i love the way he changes his voice so easily hes actually a damn good singer!! they kick ass live !
slipknotftw1000 1 year ago
serge is great!!
slipknotftw1000 1 year ago
daron is obviously on sumtin at the beggining
or his guitar strap isnt quite adjusted........great video anyway!
OmarM945 1 year ago
@OmarM945 hahaha his guitar strap isn´t adjustedXD comment of the year
nomorelies86 1 year ago
hahaha 4:33 can you say high?
gushnod 1 year ago
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gushnod 1 year ago
omg, 3:40 , daron, hilarious, i laughted my ass off, these guys are so high on their live performances, i love this band because they are so crazy and innovative!
ilian4ok 1 year ago
@ilian4ok You know, Serj doesn't smoke before or during shows because he forgets the lyrics if he does, hehe.
Strijkspray 1 year ago
oh GTFOOOO justin bieber could sing this anyday..anywhere...eyesclosed.
AlyBerryx 1 year ago
@AlyBerryx Justin Bieber can't even sing his own songs. Why do u think he lip syncs?
AntiJonasBieber 1 year ago
@AlyBerryx Yeah he could probably sing it...with a shitload of autotune.
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afrokid101 1 year ago
love the end - wow!
Karenrat1 1 year ago
1:29 sounds cool when serj's mic goes off and u just here the instruments
rossman81 1 year ago
SYSTEM OF A DOWN KURWA!!!!!!! i to grzecznie na tyle
gdynian 1 year ago
ok i dont give a shit about serj whilst darren is playing a solo...
Browni3HunteR 1 year ago
daron would not be the best guitarist, but he's different haa
patotas666 1 year ago
DARON IS JUST AMAZING!!THE BEST GUITARIST EVER!!!
panosbarcelona7 1 year ago 2
1 band = history
nicofck98 1 year ago
Who said drugs are bad x)
thisisguyw 1 year ago
man shavo makes that bass his bitch! beast!
xXDeathMadeEasyXx 1 year ago
I think Shavo and Daron do drugs before each concert.
John may as well be too, he's way too mellow.
I see Serj as too classy to drink or smoke.
thisisdannyyea 1 year ago
@thisisdannyyea in fact, serj do drugs too... as well as john, but not sure about john.
will666malibu 1 year ago
@thisisdannyyea they all smoke weed, in fact serj is one of them who indulges in it the most. none of them really do hard drugs, as far as i know. the only one who is clean is John.
merjguitar 1 year ago
@merjguitar Where is your source ??
TheSicDr 1 year ago
serj probably drinks but i know for a fact he doesn't do weed. first off, NO ONE is as hyper as serj is at a concert when they're high off weed. And he's made comments before about being against weed. He may have smoked when they first began but he's been very anti drug use and so has the bassist.
Garren's the one who does smoke but i don't think he smokes a lot, maybe a little bit before a concert or every once in awhile. As for the drummer: i don't play drums so i never cared lol.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 you're completely wrong actually, there's pictures of every last one of them smokin weed except the drummer. dairon, serj and shavo all indulge in it. and who are you to rate guitarists lol? youre probably some hormonal 14 year old living with your parents that can't play for shit. haha grow up, kid.
merjguitar 1 year ago
Do you feel like you've achieved something? I'm seen them live multiple times and have heard serj say anti drug stuff on stage. Hell, maybe they're against it but do it anyways: Dave grohl smoked for years(prob still does) and he's against it. So are MGMT but there is a video with them smoking weed and i'm sure they do other drugs too. Plus Shavo does like youth stuff so i doubt he smokes much.
Anyways, as i was saying: weed is such an unneeded part of the world that i don't understand why you
Grunge00125 1 year ago
feel the need to insult me(which I'm not 14 btw and I'm sure i could play guitar better than you if you play at all) over that and that I said Darren wasn't a good guitarist, which he's not that great. As I said, I can easily name 30 guitar players who are better in every way than him both technical wise, style wise and uniqueness. It's not an opinion: if you actually knew anything about music beyond your obviously small mental capacity, you'd realize he isn't that good at all.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 claiming what u are saying is not an opinion is completely wrong because i've been playing drum for almost 3 years now and performing with my band for 1.5 years now and darren is a good guitarist actually, he may not be the best to u but that doesnt give u the right to say that right to say that wat u r saying is fact not opinion, and i do believe he is one the the top 30 guitarist not because this band is fkin awesome but all the songs they have done in which he plays good rhythms
Cromescythe 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 SOAD is my favorite band of all time probably forever lol, but I agree with you. However, I don't really consider Daron a guitarist, he's more a singer/songwriter type of dude who plays rhythm guitar mostly :).
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar Daron said his self that before he started make music he wanted to play drums, but his parents wouldn't let him because it can't be turned off; so his parents bought him a guitar. :D
reaply 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 He is good. This music flows within him and to the audience. You sir do not understand music. Music isn't about whom is better at playing, it's about what makes you feel good. And sorry to say for you bro, but Daron Malakian makes people move with his music. So yes he is a good guitarist.
reaply 1 year ago
I understand quite a lot about music, probably more than you and 90% of System of a Down's fans since they all think for whatever reason that Daron MAlakian is some god guitarist.
Anyways, no, music isn't about how good you are at playing but saying Daron is even close to one of the best guitarists is bullshit. Wanna talk about "making people move"? Okay, fine, Sonic Youth show very little guitar skill, yet know a lot about tones and sound in generally and lots of people like them.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 Daron's riffs transcend musical norms.
mroxiful 1 year ago
No. They don't at all. He plays using a scale(forget the name) that is used in many middle eastern and oriental music and is very popular in asian countries(asian including the middle east.) It doesn't transcend musical norms: Sonic Youth, My bloody Valentine, and Gorguts transcend musical norms. Tool and Neptune transcends musical norms. Daron Malakian does not do anything even close to transcending musical norms. He simply uses a scale not used in western culture. that doesn't transcend at all
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 Sonic Youth's bass is much more superior to their one-riff repetitive guitar. And no offence, but I just listened to a few songs for My Bloody Valentine, and I gotta say one of the most boring and repetitive pieces of music I have ever heared of. By the way, music is not what scale you use it is how you transform the transcendent energy into musical notes that we hear.
mroxiful 1 year ago
Sonic Youth has done repetitive music since the 1990 or 1991, whenever Goo came out(that was the last album where they were repetitive. And My Bloody Valentine is shoegaze, it's not supposed to be super energetic fast music. And considering they have 2 albums, both of which i own and have never heard a repetitive song on(unless you consider having song strucutre repetitive, which SOAD has too so that'd be hypocritical). And Daron doesn't transfor anything, he doesn't even look like he's into
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 No I am not talknig about song structure. One guitar riff is playing throughout the whole song in the backround. Period.
mroxiful 1 year ago
the music most of the time aside from doing classic "metal" shit on stage. As I said: I'm not saying he;s a bad guitarist, I just hate how fans of bands like SOAD, or Korn, or various other nu metal/alternative metal/rock bands think their favorite guitarists are amazing guitar players when they're really not. And to talk about music transforming notes into transcendent energy when you just said sonic youth and MBV sucks, when they do it better than most bands? please, that's BS
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125
1. System of a down is not nu metal
2. You hate Korn too? The founder of current alternative metal?
3. I did not say Sonic Youth and MBV suck, maybe you should read a bit more carefully?
4. This discussion is pointless as you think that one of the founders of metal sucks, meaning you think music sucks.
mroxiful 1 year ago
1. I said nu metal/alternative metal/rock. I never specified which one, I simply grouped them all together.
2. I didn't say Korn sucked, I said their fans act like they have the best guitarists ever when they're not, they simply find ways to use effects to make noises, something MBV, Sonic Youth, The Cure, and plenty of bands have been doing forever. Korn also did not start the current alt metal scene, the Deftones did. They started first, and are more alternative than Korn. Korn is kinda their
Grunge00125 1 year ago
own genre: not enough rap influnces to make them nu metal, but they don't really have the rock influences that alternative metal has(that is, SOAD and Deftones have some more verse chorus verse and less heavy rock sound, whereas korn is almost always metal except a few ballady stuff on their past few albums. )
3. the way you talked about SY and MBV implied that you thought they suck.
4. Founder of metal? Daron Malakian? No. Not at all. Daron Malakian has done very little for metal. All he's
Grunge00125 1 year ago
done for metal is introduce middle eastern scales to people who enjoy popular music. That's nothing new: Asian bands have used it for the past few centuries(not for guitar but for various instruments) and thrash, speed, and death metal has been using it for quite a long time. Hell, even prog metal and prog rock do it from time to time.
So yeah. Big deal: A guy is in an alt metal band that got really popular and is relatively heavy. Doesn't change the fact that he is far from the best musician
Grunge00125 1 year ago
in any aspect. Whether or not it has to do with "the way he transcends the notes" or whatever is merely opinionated: people think the same about Nirvana, who have standard pop format song and only use power chords, and people also thin kthat about Necrophagist, which is technical death metal and is endless riffing for 4 minutes each song. From a musicians standpoint, he is not the best, he's far from it. From what he has shown the outside world, he's not that good. Better than most popular metal
Grunge00125 1 year ago
bands such as slipknot(their guitarists actually are good but I think Daron knows more in a theory aspect cause a lot of slipknot songs are similar.) But that's not saying much at all. And you can't give the arguement of "maybe Daron Malakian can play very technical music but chooses not to) because i used to be an avid SOAD fan and he's never shown anything that takes more skill than the solo in Lonely Days.
So you're left with an opinionated statement, or known facts. Saying that either of
Grunge00125 1 year ago
those aren't valid arguments, would be like saying the smallest part of an atom is called a "quantum lightbulb." From what we know, that cannot be a valid statement because we don't know that. And you can't say "well, we don't know that for a fact so i say it's true" because that just doesn't make sense.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 What are you talking about here? I am never quite sure how you got from a discussion about music to quantum mechanics. Anyways, I never said Daron is the best guitarist. His playing style, riffs, and solos are unique and that's what most SOAD fans like. Plus, when I was talking about the founder of metal, I clearly stated that it was KoRn and not Daron. If you do not believe me do your homework.
mroxiful 1 year ago
You said the founder of metal. Korn is not the founder of metal. They're not even the founder of a metal genre. Some people consider them the first nu metal band but as stated, they're a lot different than most nu metal bands. The founders of metal are....well there's a lot of bands that actually could be the first metal band.
Aside from that, most SOAD fans think Daron is the best fucking guitar player ever. And that annoys me. He barely transcends anything, as i said the scales he uses are
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125
they were and are the first nu metal band
gtfo.
UTpacman 1 year ago
Actually Korn and SOAD started around the same time, but Korn had a more established sound and had their first album before SOAD released any music at all. SOAD is also more of alternative metal: Nu metal has hip hop influences: DJs, rhyming vocals, sometimes rapping, and the drum and bass usually play as if they're beats, not in a rock format(Like Korn and Limp Biskit's bass and guitar work.). SOAD has rapping sometimes but that's it: The guitar is more like heavy alternative music and every
Grunge00125 1 year ago
other instrument(drums and bass) are generic metal influenced. So SOAD is alternative metal, which they also did not start(Deftones were the first completely Alt Metal band.). SOAD was simply heavy yet poppy. Their songs are heavy(mostly because they use drop c tuning in most songs) but really catchy and they never released a bad album and never strayed too far from their initial sound except the occasional softer songs on Mes and Hyp. They were simply the Nirvana of metal: They took a genre
Grunge00125 1 year ago
that was underground and became famous with it. Which is an achievement, but like Nirvana, it seems SOAD fans think that SOAD has great musicians and they're ground breaking when they aren't. they can make pop songs with metal, go them, but that doesn't make them good musicians nor does it make them any better than their peers(i.e. Derek Malakian is not better than Head from Korn or Jim Root from Slipknot just because he's sold more albums.)
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125
im not reading all of that.
Korn was the first nu metal band is all i was saying.
UTpacman 1 year ago
i thought you meant SOAD was first lolol
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125
and im pretty sure korn and shitknot have outsold system
i could be wrong though
UTpacman 1 year ago
@UTpacman I think Slipknot now have but generally System a far better than both Slipknot and Korn and I do like them both, but System, they rule!
MrMcConnon 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 You spelled Daron's name wrong bub.
Rinaleightball1 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 Most importantly, "Transcending musical norms" is obvious in your own statement where Daron uses scales that are not used in current popular music (which is considered to be the "musical norms"). He simply does what is undone.
mroxiful 1 year ago
actually quite popular in classical music and outside of western culture rock/metal(even then, metal uses it quite a lot when it comes to shredding.) So yes, he is unique, and he's far from bad. I just hate the fans who(and trust me, a good majority think like this) that he's the fucking shit because he had a song in guitar hero and because he has a good solo in lonely day. And they all act like(like most fans of any band do) that no matter what happens, he's always the best.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
None of the members of half japanese know how to even tune a guitar, yet they influenced post punk, punk, grunge, and alternative rock. Sunn O))) is just feedback induced mind fucks of noise and people like them. So no, having people like you, or being in a popular band, or attempting to be inovative(which Daron isn't even close to inovative) does not make you good at guitar. He is talented. I think if he chose to play a different style than metal/rock or played harder metal, lots of people
Grunge00125 1 year ago
would consider him an amazing guitarist, i mean the scale he uses is quite unique in the US and West Europe. But he doesn't, so that potential doesn't do anything for him. So yeah, sure, he has a relatively unique style(its just unique to the US and European cultures) and he was in a popular metal band. That doesn't change the fact that there a lot of guitarists, both skill wise, and inovation wise and "emotion wise" if you want to call it that. A LOT of better guitarists.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
lol look at chavo 0:51 he's killing his bass xD
GuitAaronD 1 year ago
john killd it on da drums he mite not b da best but hes my favorite drummer i like his floe
SiGMA1021 1 year ago
Daron is VERY CRAZY
I LOVE HIS DANCE XDDDD
Luis4everYoung 1 year ago
Daron fucking rules xDD
MejdiB 1 year ago
That intro was fucking sick w/o the guitar. But when it came in, it got that much better.
BlckToad 1 year ago 5
love soad WOOHOO
stickofadown 1 year ago
Is Shavo Ok..lol..
krazygurl6404 1 year ago
really great
lotzlp 1 year ago
psycho, groupie, cocaine, CRAZY!
jeezyshizzle 2 years ago 3
fuckin amazing
daliasoad 2 years ago
Daren looks wierd
benmatjon 2 years ago
Its cause he's high as fuck haha hell yeah daron is the man lol
mattei94 1 year ago
looked like shavo was gonna throw up at the end
that1guyh3 2 years ago 2
what was up with Shavo during Daron's solo lol
adamjanga 2 years ago 2
he's probably too high or drunk lol. Either him or Daron use drugs(when toxicity was written and shown to the band, whichever member does drugs was against the lyrics) and i think it's him: he always s live and he never really eems out of it when they play and he doesn't talk much. :P whereas daron has too much energy to do anythin unless he's on speed or crack XD
Grunge00125 1 year ago
he's probably too high or drunk lol. Either him or Daron use drugs(when toxicity was written and shown to the band, whichever member does drugs was against the lyrics) and i think it's him: he always s live and he never really eems out of it when they play and he doesn't talk much. :P whereas daron has too much energy to do anythin unless he's on speed or crack XD
Grunge00125 1 year ago
Perfect!
lebanonlibanon 2 years ago 7
I love the beginning speech and the piano/guitar due at the end. Brilliant!
SVOify 2 years ago
LOL look at Daron's face at 0:47
Waarghman 2 years ago 5
he's like, "ooh, like what over here.."
youcomeupwithone 2 years ago 2
SOAD Is the best, Fucking amazing solo
357159ERAL 2 years ago
The bass from BDO ´02 is missing :(
DieVarden 2 years ago 11
Thats the voice
asfaijlknde 2 years ago 2
fuckin amazing
this song is the best
daron is the best
carlosodadjian 2 years ago 3
most epic guitar solo ever...
woodentermite 2 years ago
what does soad and punk have in common?lol
LinkinParkFan2222222 2 years ago
el solo es la leche joderrr!!
Urrusmoso 2 years ago 3
awsome!....
magnus1985 2 years ago 2
puto solooooo
dioooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos!
es de los mejores k he escuchado de daron!
SOAD, punk & Ska 4 ever!
martinx100 2 years ago
fucking amazing solo
205ryan 2 years ago 10
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matiboyeras 2 years ago
Daron's dance in the beginning was pretty damn awesome haha! Wish System of a Down would get back together soon.
ShadowMakerOfMasks 2 years ago 6
SOAD 4 EVER!!!
matiazo88 2 years ago 36
jeeze john was doin' work
Persianboiii24 2 years ago
daron is the best guitarist in the wourld
systemofadownfans 2 years ago 15
i love the way daron & shavo car run & do all those tricks wile still keeping up with the song
i hope 2 b 1/2 as great as them 1 day
GALM1CIPHER93 2 years ago 9
LOVE DARON GUITAR IT OWNS
Droideka25 2 years ago 11
Daron is one talented dude.I love the way he feels every note when he sings!
Valandil00 2 years ago 9
i love shavos playing in this song
SOAD 4 EVER!
soad318 2 years ago 9
infinite hiatus lol
not for ever.
ToxicatedLum 2 years ago 3
Go Daron go!!
wtfbbqcheez 2 years ago 12
shavo rulez!!!
ThePaninaro 2 years ago 16
daron is sooooooooooooooooo fucked man , it shows drugs can be good but if you look at the solo he pulls off
NeilsinMandela08 2 years ago 10
1 man 1 guitar = history
lptvchester 2 years ago 33
SOAD's guitar player really isn't that great. their bassist is amazing but their guitar player isn't that good.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
@Grunge00125 I think he is in the top 30 guitar players of all time.
TheSicDr 1 year ago
Darren? Top 30 guitarists of all time??? Try any progressive rock/metal band, jazz/fusion, or technical/experimental metal/death metal band. I can think of WELL more than 30 guitarists who are better in both technique and in their own style sort of way. MAYBE the top 150 just because he has a unique blend of many influences that, unlike most guitarists, he has a near perfect combination of in his style, but he's definitely not in the top 30 at all.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
Now in terms of a popular band, yes, he may be one of the top 50 guitarists of all time for a mainstream band. He may not play hard music, but he improvises live to a degree and can show off his skills from time to time(like the solo in lonely day) so i mean yeah he's a good guitarist and i think his style is incredibly unique. But as i said, outside of mainstream music genres, going into more underground stuff you'll find tons of better guitar players.
Grunge00125 1 year ago
excellent ;)
Abzoluter 2 years ago
ha all beards in video
tracywindham 2 years ago
i want to learn to play that solo....
TheDarkness1020 2 years ago
everybody does LoL
PeezyWeee 2 years ago
its eazy as hel!!
punk4life1029 2 years ago 2
play: second chord on 9,10,12,13 and 15 semitones.. these are the notes try to figure out the exact number of hits daron's playing and also follow the rhythm :)
Abzoluter 2 years ago 2
And play it as high as he was in this vid and running all over teh stage :P
SatanKeeper 2 years ago 2
this the magic which daron's vents
Abzoluter 2 years ago 2
4:30 Great image.
Meteoralogist 2 years ago
Everyone's saying Daron's on something. There is such thing called "Stage Ecstasy" you know. You get "high" off of the feeling of just rocking out in front of people. Also, it's really hard to play any instrument when high.
Tl;dr: not on anything
jeleopard 2 years ago 6
AMen to that. My favorite band is the band called Deftones. Chino used to make some silly things onstage, still rocking the shit though, but people said " My god he's so high ". But it's just the mood that catches you.
Meteoralogist 2 years ago
Red Hot Chili Peppers play better when high
systemdreadyprepare 2 years ago
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lol rhcp are dead they make pop now....
laboloche 2 years ago
System come back!!!I dont want listen the old songs.I need new songs.
SOAD FTW
Smolkometal55 2 years ago
or maybe 'Psycho'?
TrEdDeR09 2 years ago
or perhaps 'cocaine'
MarijuanaGood4U 2 years ago
Daron is clearly on something. meth maybe.
MarijuanaGood4U 2 years ago
nah just weed believe it or not
furbycommando94 2 years ago
hes on weed and hardcoreness,rocking for him is like ecstasy
nomanlow 2 years ago
Daron is insanely awesome.
And of course, SOAD is awesome too. Or, excuse me, WAS awesome...I guess Serj said they're on a "permanent hiatus." =(
monalisasmiles4you 2 years ago
They're getting back together. Shush now. And Shavo>Daron
jeleopard 2 years ago 2
jeleopard... why do you say that shavo is better then malakian ? i like shavo.. but daron is way more awsome
BillaPunkSk8ter 2 years ago
That is what I said. Daron is good, but where's the musicality?
jeleopard 2 years ago
How do you know they're getting back together ? ANy source ?
Meteoralogist 2 years ago
Nope. I can't say for sure, but Scars and Serj canceled their tours
jeleopard 2 years ago
Yeah, that could be the sign of something... But what about the permanent hiatus Serj has talked about ?
Meteoralogist 2 years ago
He actually never said it would be permanent. He said might.
jeleopard 2 years ago
Hmm, on Wiki is written that he said " permanent ". Anyway, I wasn't there, I can't tell.
Meteoralogist 2 years ago
daron makes me sad now..i looked up to him before but i guess i dont like his hobo beard
beastlyrock 2 years ago
did you see daron;s eyes at 0:48?
systemofadeadman 2 years ago
OMG!!!ladies and gentleman..we are actually seeing...DARONS EYES!!!holy shit im off youtube...
GodsmackGr 2 years ago
yeah, actually Daron is master at guitar, but when he's high he's not so good.
westcoastballafrombe 2 years ago
isnt it amazing though ...he can play the guitar in which ever way...running...jumping on the floor...sleeping...
justic23 2 years ago
he yeah funny dance in the beginning and great solo in the end, =)
VFKing 2 years ago
Actually daron does drugs and so does shavo and serj used to
SoadOnBroadway 2 years ago
amazing solo at the end.
seaptown 3 years ago 4