@remaftp I think the entire 80s generation of comic book readers were 90% Marvel readers; 90% of the Marvel readers were X-men fans.
So, my theory is that--in the 1980s--the direct market audience was really an X-men cult with fringes of people reading other things, like Teen Titans and Spider-Man.
David is right on. It's almost impossible to just pick up a title now & read it with any confident sense of what the hell's happening. You have to read GL, GL Corps, Brightest Day (or Blackest Night , or whatever ) just to tell who half the people are & what they're doing there.This is true with many DC books I read, & I gave up on Marvel a while back cuz of this (among other problems). BTW - Just curious. Do you have to have facial hair to be on your panel now?
@coydog0 BTW, both Joe Quesada and Dan Didio have done much good for their respective companies, but their insistence on taking the easy way out by raising sales (for the short-term) with multi-part crossovers is enough to force them both to the food stamp line.
The superhero genre is dying, and crossovers are the cause of death.
I bought the Essentials;All/new all/different X-men for a romp down memory lane.
It turned into becoming a trek down misery avenue. I could not believe that I use 2 actually like these stories. 2 this day I don't get why Chris Claremont isn't viewed as a writer the same way some ppl judge Liefeld as an artist.
@pmknight12 Sad, but true. I re-read X-men #94-143ish a few years back, and felt the exact same way. While the early Cockrum issues have charm, and the Byrne issues hit upon new ideas every issue, the dialogue is stilted, the twists hokey, the characters' motivations are forced, and Byrne's art is amateur--the true Liefeld of his day.
Hate to say it, but the same goes for the Wolfman/Perez New Teen Titans run. Both have the feel of a Saturday morning cartoon with delusions of grandeur.
It always comes back to the X-Men with us old farts.
remaftp 6 months ago
@remaftp I think the entire 80s generation of comic book readers were 90% Marvel readers; 90% of the Marvel readers were X-men fans.
So, my theory is that--in the 1980s--the direct market audience was really an X-men cult with fringes of people reading other things, like Teen Titans and Spider-Man.
You heard it here first!
ComicBookSyndicate 6 months ago
Anyone who doesn't put John Byrne as the greatest X-men artist is just wrong. Close second is Neal Adams. Learn your history and have some class!
bigjimandthewolfpack 9 months ago
he is in the small minority of people who dont like ultimate spiderman
juggernaut44 1 year ago
David is right on. It's almost impossible to just pick up a title now & read it with any confident sense of what the hell's happening. You have to read GL, GL Corps, Brightest Day (or Blackest Night , or whatever ) just to tell who half the people are & what they're doing there.This is true with many DC books I read, & I gave up on Marvel a while back cuz of this (among other problems). BTW - Just curious. Do you have to have facial hair to be on your panel now?
Stepper11 1 year ago
@Stepper11 You must have facial hair, and be slightly out of shape. Or, in Brian's case, extremely. (I kid, Brian!)
-mike-el
coydog0 1 year ago
@coydog0 BTW, both Joe Quesada and Dan Didio have done much good for their respective companies, but their insistence on taking the easy way out by raising sales (for the short-term) with multi-part crossovers is enough to force them both to the food stamp line.
The superhero genre is dying, and crossovers are the cause of death.
coydog0 1 year ago
I was totally shocked when you mentioned Ultimate Spiderman. I've only read a few issues, but so many people raved about it.
MainCharacterChannel 1 year ago
@MainCharacterChannel I think people will look back at Ultimate Spidey the way we look back at old Uncanny X-men.-Mike-EL
coydog0 1 year ago
I bought the Essentials;All/new all/different X-men for a romp down memory lane.
It turned into becoming a trek down misery avenue. I could not believe that I use 2 actually like these stories. 2 this day I don't get why Chris Claremont isn't viewed as a writer the same way some ppl judge Liefeld as an artist.
On an upnote my five fave Xmen artists are;
1) Paul Smith
2) Art Adams
3) Jim Lee
4) John Cassaday
5) Barry Smith
pmknight12 1 year ago
@pmknight12 Sad, but true. I re-read X-men #94-143ish a few years back, and felt the exact same way. While the early Cockrum issues have charm, and the Byrne issues hit upon new ideas every issue, the dialogue is stilted, the twists hokey, the characters' motivations are forced, and Byrne's art is amateur--the true Liefeld of his day.
Hate to say it, but the same goes for the Wolfman/Perez New Teen Titans run. Both have the feel of a Saturday morning cartoon with delusions of grandeur.
coydog0 1 year ago
@pmknight12 My 5 favourite X-men artists are :
1) Frank Quitely
2) Paul Smith
3) Barry Smith
3) Dave Cockrum
5) Marc Silvestri
coydog0 1 year ago