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  • few years ago i was a huge noob

    now im slightly less of a noob

  • Everything you said is true

  • I like how he says deh-moyle insead of turmoil =P

  • i think the main reason all the items are dropping is because people arnt willing to pay the large amount of money for item. so they just slowly drop until they reach a price that people are willing to pay. also godsword swords are mainly dropping becuase not many people want them becuase they arnt good for training or that good for pking anymore.

  • About the whole bossing prices thing: I feel as if bossing is the only proper way to earn a decent amount of money nowadays. In the position I am in now I'm trying my hardest to get money for turmoil and overloads and I feel a sense of urgency about the whole thing because as it is outside of bossing there are barley any decent money making methods due to all the bots.

    I used to do frost dragons for money, now it's impossible as is skilling. So really my only option to make bank is bossing.

  • @MightyMuddy1 a bit late but im watching this video 3 very late as i read you comment is absouluty not true when u do something like staking and make 10b in 30 minutes if u get really lucky u will never under any circumstance want to do pvm when u tasted 10b in 10 mins

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  • It's just insane to even imagine doing 1 kill a trip at KQ, duoing with Verac, Supers and Sharks... Can you imagine people solo 'camping' Nex like they do at Bandos/Arma?

  • PVM gone down? How hard is it to find a world because of 138's being able to get 50 bandos kills and stay there for 2 hours. There doesn't seem to be a shortage of PVM people at all.

  • I know what you mean. Im around level 113 at the moment and its hard to make money with boss drops going down. When i was lower level these bosses were to high and players that are my level now were making millions and now i cant do that as easily. This makes those drops worth getting like nex drops out of my reach. All of the real drops that are profitable seem to move up with the players leaving our lower level players poor.

  • I like the fact they are making it easier mainly because it gives us lower levels to catch up to higher levels like yourself who have been playing longer

  • yea i agree with you, i remember years back ago it was so fun to go gwd and get loots. 1 drop from any boss meant alot like 1-3year ago. now gwd is just boring.. most of gwd team req high stats+wep. now u can kill bosses in some secs if u are in a team. i feel duel area has also played a big role in rs. it's so easy to make money now in staking. some pepps are trying relly hard to make money by gwd or slayer etc . etc. and there alot pepps who make like billions everyday in staking lol.

  • 109 left.... gl...

  • To this day I still have 70 red partyhats in my bank and cant sell them because they remind me of how I camped on classic for days buying them forever... I quit RS after rs2 came out. I came back in 2010 with a level 60 main... And one of the richest f2p players ever.

  • I would love to get overloads, pack yak etc. and go duo armadyl or something with friends.. Before I spent money on turmoil I got 9 kills per trip armadyl soloing.. and I did get a hilt drop. I was pretty thrilled.... but when I went to sell it, it only sold at 39m. That's 50% less money than a year ago -.-.. I also went to bandos a few days ago..

    Trip #1: crashed by a level 138 torva kid

    Trip #2: crashed by a lvl 138

    Trip #3: crashed by a lvl 138

    Get my point? Pvm is only for 138s :/.

  • What jagex has been doing : Quests and HD

  • i hate turma nd all that shit i remember i had ufll bandos bgs and piety i use to be the fucking shit now im a a nub piety rapier

  • If bonus xp weekend changed to a bonus day there would be alot of complaining due to the fact that there's different world times that's why they do a weekend so everyone has a good 24 hours of bonus xp.

  • Whips claws ags ect. were so high because of high demands and because of pking. Stuff really started to go down when chaotic weps. came out i mean who would wana get a bandos godsword or even a armadyl god sword when u could get a chaotic rapier longsword ect. which is roughly the same stats as a godsword and its free. You dont even need to take time out of your day to get chaotics all you gota do is buy idung pro wait 2 weeks or so and bam chaotic. This game is going down the shitting nuff said

  • i remeber when teams reguirments were piety supers and liek 120 combat

    now its 135+ pack yak,ovl,chatoic,turmoil

    sucks

  • @Kepitsecret dude i agree so much it makes me sad =[

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  • man when i started playing a gmaul was 100K, i went on today and its only 26k? wtf man..

  • I remembered when I solo'd my first arma hilt for 100m, good times..

  • Definately do this as often as you can i loved it.

  • Nipple

  • things are low in price because of a secret...bots.

  • the reason everything is droping is becuz for pking say there are 100 whip put in the game.well with old pking the whips would be removed sometimes now they are just transfered to a other account

  • What setup are you wearing in the video?

  • @SourceBoom Virtus top/robe bottom, chaotic staff, arcane stream necklace, infinity boots, barrows gloves, arcane spirit shield and i assume seer's ring (i)

  • @JouleBigSpliff Cheers :)

  • my opion on the whole matter is, since free trade came back rs has changed almost exaclly like the real world. now what i mean is the botters are like oil, they fund the game(world) but theyre going to kill it envuntualy and as the economy sits rs now allows for player to basicly monopilise in the game with dice chats etc. just my thoughts :)

  • wtf rs without ovls +turm. What madness is this?

  • Honestly, I think the combination of bots+ new wilderness made slayer items crash. like the whip. So many bots, too many in the games. Plus who wants a whip when you can have a rapier?...And at godwars its the same thing. its more efficient to have a sheild+ chaotic while having claws for spec, rather than a slow godsword With barely higher strength bonus. but overall I think there are more pvmers than before because you cant make money with other things like RC or Frosts because of bots.

  • DO THIS WEEKLY PLEASE :) I LOVED IT- IT HELPED ME GET THROUGH MY FIRE GIANTS TASK... keep up the awesome vids man you're my favorite youtuber.

  • I can understand where you're coming from in saying that PvM is too easy, but I can't say that myself. I quit scape a few months after they took away free trade, which was just about the time they released chaotics overloads and turmoil. Now it's a few years later and it looks like a lot of fun to get these new things, but I'm hoping the game won't be dead by the time I do.

  • Great commentary, i really apreciate your view on this stuff. I'm glad i found a commentator with smarts for once.

  • Whips dropped alot because now they're not being lost to the bh system, they are going from player to player. Just thought id say :D

  • i think this was a good video and you should definitely continue to do them

  • Soulsplit was a main reason pvm got easier... now you can just camp places with soulsplit with no food needed but back then you actually had to bank and restock

  • I agree with every single word you said in this video Fangzor

  • but other thing is bots because price drops because of bots too.

  • I realy heard to you and you are right in some stuff, and well I think the explanaition for the prices go that down is because some ppl just tarde and loan items with friends and they don't buy that many in GE now and so prices drop....

  • Anyone else every put so much hype behind WGS and like put off doing it till you got higher level? I did. Then i finished it and was like a level 90 could have done that.... that was BS!

  • Dear Fangzor,

    i've listened to every single word you said and i couldn't bring it any better.

    back on 05/06 if you had a cashpile which was green you were a boss, but now a green cashpile means nothing anymore.

    i agree with you at every single point you said

  • Runescape is accually still fun, ive been playing since 2000 on multiple accounts ( all got hacked ) and now I got a lvl 103 account with pretty bad stats. I got so much to do I dont even know what to do when. Like getting cash for bandos tassys or getting my rapier. Thats the fun of it

  • ehmm torva is gwd lol cuz nex is in the gwd

  • the bonus experience will only last 600 minutes the exp gets lover every 30 minutes it starts at x 2,7exp and will end with 1,1exp so if you played 600 minutes al your double exp is gone! thumb this up so people will know it!

  • u should be in runeshark's podcasts (:

  • /watch?v=wHyNWyA-VJE Selling level 136 runescape account for $300AU have a looksy :)

  • I agree I think that the botting problem will resolve itself because of all of the players quiting only the players who really care about rune scape (non-botters) will stay and when bots are gone more legit players will return.

  • I'm level 136, and I have yet to kill the kalphite queen.

    There are some bosses that are so easy to kill its not funny. And then you have the forgotten bosses...

    I still enjoy killing the old KBD. Its still fun to do, honestly :)

  • price is halved in everything, being that 1). botters sell everything for -5% to get the cash quick = retards, and also now that people can buy gold more gold is in the economy. = cheaper items

  • I loved this new vid idea!

    Btw can your next shield review be the chaotic kiteshield review? I want to see how it stacks up against the elysian and divine spirit shield

  • Gwd has died but before then barrows died and before then KQ died and before then Kbd died I actually remember when getting a Dragon med was bank changing :L Jagex made nex and maybe theyll add another boss with RoTM coming out to add more variety thats somewhat challenging for ovl/turm

    PvM gets easy and new bosses come out thats just how it works....

  • Agree with everything you said, and if it wasnt for the release of nex PvM would be totally dead.

  • @Dartmoul1 i disagree im a big pvmer and i hate nex i make all my money at corp and bandos tbh

  • @Dartmoul1 Yes we want stronger BOSSES!!!! Zezima should be a boss!!! And drop phats haha jk

  • I remember when i used to run home from school to start playing. I wish i could have that feeling again.

  • @UpcomingBerzerker same !!!!

  • I think the big reason why claws/whips/dboot etc have dropped is the 15min graves and the changes to pvp drops. Also dnt forget more and more people are getting top levels allowing for faster killing. Another thing i think is that money making for legit players is harder, methods like dragons/aviansies/mining etc are slower now. There may be more money but it is concentrated at the top. Whips have probs dropped cus of the rapier aswell. I suspect there are other reason aswell i dnt know.

  • Jagex need to make the skills and bosses more fun & harder so i can't be botted. but not stupid like dungeoneering.

  • @QuikWire nex?

  • @eercrnd1

    thats 1 boss. i mean skills too and other bosses need a tune up.

  • No cannon on ice strykes, o

  • More.

  • can you compare the fighter hat vs the helm of neitiznot please

  • @fangzorRS if you're complaining everything is too easy, make a fucking pure then...DUH?

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  • Do this weekly!!!!! I skill and listen to this it's awesome!!!

  • I think whips gone down because of the wild update now you can actually get the whip instead of it going to waste and u get crap loot. now the whip just goes in a cycle and more whips are in stock instead of just dissapearing

  • Hey fang, if you liked doing bosses in noob gear back in the days, why dont you kill bosses in noob gear right now?

    I think it would be fun to see you going bandos in gear we used back in the days, together with friend.

    Thumbs up if you agree?

  • @paul322162

    theyd get crashed straight away :s.. maybe not at sara but everywhere else..

  • TTTT

  • Do it ftw (: love da vids

  • I've started up a new account recently after being inactive on the game for over 2 years. It's still lots of fun to train up a new account but not nearly as much as it once was. Great video Fangzor keep 'em up!

  • new quest imo will have dc'bow as reward, jagex been talking about it for a while, its possible :)

  • @dalatiroro95 Why realease dragon crossbow? Chaotic crossbow is 30% more accurate then rune and free.

  • @Sm1thrul3s new spec ? idk.. i heard they will release it soon but idk when

  • tbh, imo, it was more fun and more challenging in the past, now its too easy, i dung often now cz its challenging, teamwork and relying on ur skills and ur team mate's... if only dung wud be even bigger than what it is atm wud be even better tbh, but oh well... jagex "try" to fix the game, but they make it "worse" in a way.. :/

  • You miss all that fun you used to have, it hurts when it don't last ):

  • circulation is why, hence all wepon and armor crashes after ft.

  • Slayer is dead Fangzor =[

  • i love your long videos

  • I never got a piece of dragon pl8 as i did quest =(

  • @Abdulk905 u do

  • maybe the new quest will release dragon cross bow :o?

  • It's kinda lame because now, when going gwd, you make so little money. you cant build up and will hardly be able to ever get Nex armour. It's bad :/

  • keep doing this this makes me enjoy skilling :p just listening to you :p

  • I think you missed the biggest update that changed pvm, summoning. This update now made it so people could bring familiars that increase their inventory, or heal them with no need for food. Without summoning, a lot of the things would not be possible to do.

  • do this weekly man, when I do boring stuff such as firemaking or mining I listen to podcasts and videos such as this. They help a lot trust me, if u can keep doing them please do :)

  • Smart, constructive & accurate.

    You pretty much just voiced every single legitimate player; that has a brain.

    As for bots; it's clear that the majority of them have been produced in order to sell Gold. In my opinion - this game would be tidier if free trade was REMOVED.

    Permanently... Stops scamming, cheating, rwt'ers dead.

    Feel free to troll.

  • @LsPointless I Agree that it would help, but then its still a good thing to have.

    Dicing is frowned upon, but when you are playing some1 legit then its actually pretty fun.so i think that would be a loss of removing FT.

    I think there should be some requirements to have FT, so like a certain amont of QP, or a certain amount of time played on RS or maybe a little of both. Jagex need to find a way to stop bots having free trade and having a requirement is probably the best way.

  • @JoeeWeBby ...

    Questpoints would SOLVE it. Damn ... that could sincerely work?

    150 quest points, maybe 200 at least..hmm >_>....

  • @LsPointless Problem with QPs is that f2p player wont be able to get it. A mixture of Total Level, time played, tasks done, quests done and maybe some other things could be the answer.

  • @JoeeWeBby Strong point made honestly, F2p max quest points can literally be done within a day. =/

    Total level; i've seen level 138s with a total of less than 2000.

    A lot of people feel the task system is rewarding enough. =/

    It almost seems there's no fair way about it. Then again there's nothing even remotely fair about rwt'ing so the level of this "unfairness" as harsh as it would be, would still end up being more fair than those with the ability to RWT.

    =( bah. (yes, i am a sheep).

  • from the new quest boss i think the boss will drop the dragon warhammer as jagex did confirm that they will release the dragon warhammer this year, so it would make sense to release it with the quest

  • hey fangzor i know you are very busy but please could you do a overload vs turmoil comparison as it would be greatly appreciated :D

  • Membership is the way to go. In every single f2p english world, there are spamming bots advertising gold selling websites. No wonder 80% of f2p players are either botting or buying gold... Jagex can't do anything as the moment 1 spamming account gets banned, another one is created.

  • I did bandos for a week straight to get turmoil with piety super sets and an ags lol getting like 3 kills a trip with a terrorbird and for overloads i camped tds for 20 days with my friend for a few trips a day and got 15 claws in those 20 days and that's how i got overloads :D

  • You should try doing live streams

  • it's not that the items are overpowered, the old bosses are just too weak compared to nex/corp.

  • Would like to see every day!!!!

  • nice vids, ur voice is annoyin tho -.-

  • @RsTesco i don't think they should do that cuz there're still lots of ppl without ovls, turmoil and chaotics, so it will make it even harder or impossible for them to kill one of the bosses... I think it is fair if u achieved 95 pray and/or 92? Herblore u have to be able to kill bosses faster... (double nex lp? I don't think so lol)

  • I've Quit RS but i still love your Vids!

  • Is the bonus exp 10 hours or a whole weekend?!

  • @EdgevilleOnly Whole weekend, but will stay at 1.1x after 10 hours

  • @EdgevilleOnly whole weekend

  • @EdgevilleOnly dont listen to him because it is 10 hours but it isnt 2x exp the whole time.... it starts out at 2.7x exp and after 30min it goes down to 2.5x...and it constantly goes down every 30min so get your exp while you can :) but after the 10 hours its at 1.1x which is still a tiny bonus exp lol

  • @range2thefac Oh, its like the other double exp weekends, Thought he ment 2.7x the whole weekend!

    Ty though!

  • Dude, all i can say is WORD

  • @abbywhip01 i just had you as drop :P

  • When they came out with overloads/chaotics etc, they should have made boss's harder to kill imo, double there hp or something like that

  • he is saying that cuz he maxed and got cash

  • Make more of these vidoes, very interesting in my opinion.

  • ads at start and end of video, unsubbed

  • @xlxdeadmanxlx Bye faggot.

  • @xlxdeadmanxlx You're a dick.

  • 100m was more than 1b now

  • I remember trying to get the 3m for a whip and after I got a whip free trade came out and whips prices droped to like 800k. I can't even get into a good pvm team because they are all require 136+ combat, turmoil, overloads, full bandos/nex armor, and chaotics with a divine. Money is difficult to make of you are low combat and skilling isn't for you.

  • Quality vid <3

  • Dragon crossbow from new quest? I hope so :P

  • u should. love it

  • Do More !

  • Love u fangzor!!! No homo;)

  • Im building for my quest cape, I have about 15 quests left :D

  • A great listen and I've played since the start and have witnessed these price changes, not only armour and gwd items but herbs. I used to pick ranarrs up and sell for like 12k. now they are what 2k? Money has lost value alot. inflation etc.

  • Jagex can do something against the bots , take an hour of their day , all of them , pick a section of worlds each (one take 1-10 , another 10-20) etc , go to the famous bot places and just ban the bots.

    But then again , you have to think from jagex view , banning bots is basicly like saying no to thousands and thousands of $ every month. Imagine yourself in their position. =/

    But yes , they can do something about the bots , but they really don't want to.

  • @zachie9100 Jagex lose alot of money from bots due to people getting the credit cards jacked stuff like that

  • @TehIncho No not really.

    Think about it , hundreds of thousands of bots... Like seriously , and it's like , 4-5$ / month?

    Imagine the money they actually have to say no to by banning the bots. :o

  • Nice vid, keep it up :)

  • Hey Fang, you should try doing podcasts maybe once a week and around 40mins + long. Would be a great idea and a lot of people would like it.

    Cheers.

  • @Plupish 40mins are you crazy, no one would look a 40mins podcasts

  • haha i changle my self i am lvl 138 with chatiocs divine overloads turmil i say to my self no i am going to use a whip pack yak and barrows armor to get a trip with sharks and i do it so i like old rs i miss it

  • The demand has lowered thanks to DClaws, Torva etc, and the amount of items has gone up, which leads to crashing prices.

  • yeah do this series. it makes playing runescape more interesting like i was listening to this while doing agility....how fun is agility when there's nothing going on.

  • prior to ft, a 500m bank was very nice and not many people could have that much wealth. These days many people have 500m+ banks. Where did all this money come from?

  • Look at those hits

  • Holy shit you hit 1000 lol.

  • can you do dragonfire shield vs chaotic kiteshield? :P

  • firstly Fangzor. I really enyod this video and want you to make more of them :D and secondly, Jagex still need to come out with the dragon warhammer and the dragon kiteshield. and maby dragon crossbow?

  • @najuf yes they still need them but there not going to match chaotics and torva as examples, they will be lower level content making it easier for lower levels.

  • interesting opions, i would like to hear more off this

  • Goals can also be making awesome videos? maybe that is enough

  • GTFO free trade limits back please

  • hahaha he said zedgs lololol i feel dumb

  • i like this kind of vids ;D make more!

  • i really did like this video and watched evry minute of it so keep it up m8

  • i like listening to this when i play i say you should do more i know ill listen to this while i play rs :) its like a runeshark podcast but way shorter :)

  • loved the video

  • make this a series pleaseeeeee

  • EPIC vid my man. keep 'em going!

  • Im so sad RS is dying I wish Jagex was better and it wasnt about money they are lossing money by doing what they are doing because of the high-level players are quiting and not paying for membership anymore. So basically they are lossing money faster then they are gaining it so its very sad they were such a great company but something happened.

  • yes, make this a series <3 !

  • Before "free trade" around january or sooner, when I was a level 136 with an untrimmed hitpoints cape and just "super" potions.

    After 5 attempts I soloed the corp. I was more exited at that then I was a month or so ago when I had a 220m split in a corp ffa & split, divine drop.

  • umm, torva is a gwd item

  • New players who still have many goals to reach will probably find this game boring and annoying also because of all the bots... We high levels care less about the skills we have to train, but people who don't play this game for such a long time yet, they start in F2P and training a skill like mining is very hard because of all the bots... And it seems that Jagex isn't doing anything about the bots? Free trade came back 7 months ago, Jagex knew there would be RWT. They do nothing about it...?

  • PVM FOR LIFE!!! and "From Stratch Series" shows how pvm is amazing, and can do so much. and how a brain helps lol

  • Interesting.

  • @BigFoltz you completely misunderstood what he said, does going to nex generate more coins? no it generates items. and yeah there are less coins in the game now than there were back then because pure cash vanishes when you buy something from a shop or a monster for a dungeon. there's no more billions of coins coming from Pvp a day. and his theory is actually true, think about it more than 5 seconds

  • make these weekly

  • i dont think rs will last to the end of this year let alone 5 years time

  • I've made a secondary turmoil pure account just recently sine I'm close to maxing out my main and need new goals to achieve =P Should be interesting to make.

    Jagex NEEDS to get rid of bots since there isn't anything you can do for good cash anymore apart from high lvl pvm or pvp or staking, nothing for new players or non maxed.

    Nice video as usual, I'd like to see more like this.

  • I actually started nodding off, but I don't mean that in a bad way :O I'm just saying haha

  • My friend bots and he's got 12 major bot offenses on one account and isn't banned :P.

  • I think they should get pay a mod to go from world to world and just ban people at popular botting spots, that would make the price of all gwd items. I am 138 and the last thing i wanna do is do bandos all day and get like a 17m drop. I miss going to arma and if you got a hilt split you like went CRAZY`!@!@!@! Now its just like whatever its just 50m.

  • I watched the whole thing. There is something about ur voice that makes it easy to listen. No homo

  • try making a pure,zerker, tank or something if ur getting bored