David Belle interviewed by Sebastien Foucan - Part 2 - FreerunningTV.com

[MrBalou300]

belle et foucan :D

[barennis]

A lot of talk about "showing off"....so I suppose it's showing off when a brilliant writer publishes a book for millions to read...he's just so arrogant that he wants to share his ideas and creativity?

[gitano259]

how old have david belle ? 30 ????????????

[parKourchido]

@gitano259 no, 40 or more

[dannjoe1]

I'd love to see them train and do the art of movements together again. Oh, and David Belle doing it with lots of flips and spins (freerunning) while Sebastien Foucan doing it with efficient movements (Parkour). :P

[Veggieman96]

@dannjoe1

Other way around dude, lol

[KYLE239EA]

click the closed caption button. excellent excellent video.

[ledastiger0]

wish I spoke french...

[LEDZEPPELINJAMES]

@keithtuber chido carnal



[landgabriel]

When training in front of friends and peers often people focus on the 'showing off' aspect when they criticize. Sure part of the appeal of having spectators is to show off but part of it also is to push them to train too. To 'lead by example'. Every time I see someone who is better than me at flips I congratulate them and ask for advice on how to do the trick. Seemingly insecure people accuse others of being 'show offs'.

[BlacksVideos]

@landgabriel

It's the opposite lol. the reason WHY people showoff is because they are insecure.

[landgabriel]

@BlacksVideos so one should NEVER do any cool tricks in front of anyone, only when alone?

[landgabriel]

@BlacksVideos You didn't answer my question. So, a runner should NEVER do trickes in front of anyone, ever, because if anyone watches, then it is showing off and insecure?

I like to watch free runners do awesome tricks because I find it impressive and aesthetic. The world would not be as cool if we didn't have traceurs and freerunners who were willing to perform in front of people and post youtube videos of their work.

[BlacksVideos]

@landgabriel

Just because people can see you train doesnt mean you show off. You show off when your intention is to show off. Very simply. Freerunning have never been about doing 'awesome tricks', even though most of the freerunning we see today doesn't have much resemblence to real freerunning at all; most of it seems to be acrobatics brought outdoors. The whole philosophy behind it is build on being strong, mentally, ethically, and training for yourself and not others.

[landgabriel]

@BlacksVideos So when a traceur uploads a video to youtube to share here, are they showing off? I think many intentions can be included in a traceur's motivations. I am impressed with the ability of some free runners/traceurs, and I am glad they 'perform'. Part of the aspects of running includes that it can be looked at as a performance art. Nothing wrong with that. Life is not so black and white as 'either you are a show off or you aren't'.

[BlacksVideos]

@landgabriel

Maybe. I bet at least 70% put their videos with on youtube with no other intention of showing off. But then, I don't know peoples intention for ure, but since showing off is a drive that is inside every human being, it's quite likely. Freerunning is not about showing off. It's never been. Then, yes it looks spectacular, and it's great to both train and watch and there's a lot of great videos on youtube among with the majority of ''hey look at what i can do''.

[landgabriel]

@BlacksVideos If you have good skill, why not show it to people? It's like if you were Superman and never flew in front of people. Personally I am not so insecure that if I saw Superman fly, i would think only 'he can do something i can't'. I would think instead 'cool! That dude can fly!'

People who throw the 'show off' label around seem so insecure. It translates to 'I can't do what the person on the video can do, so I have to belittle him/her however possible'.

[BlacksVideos]

@landgabriel

No, according to psychology the drive to impress others of is universal and have existed since pre-history. So we all have the drive to impress. It's science. Parkour itself is about being strong, also strong as in strong mind. If you can't resist the drive to showoff you're not strong. Parkour already have rules that's been defined by the founders and that's about it. It's not just about the movements.

[landgabriel]

@BlacksVideos Okay so David Belle did Parkour in front of millions of people in District B13 because he is a show off. Seems like he doesn't follow his own rules.

[BlacksVideos]

@landgabriel

I don't thin you read my text. It completely depends on your own intentions.

[landgabriel]

@BlacksVideos I read your text and you said that the drive to show of is universal so obviously part of Belle's motivation to star in B13 was to show off his skill.

[BlacksVideos]

@landgabriel

Impressing others is a drive inside us, and yes, its universal, but that doesn't mean everyone show off. For instance, it's away more likely that David was in B13 in order to spread parkour and earn money. If you ever have talked to anyone that have met david, or if you've met him yourself, you know he's a very humble person

that doesnt train parkour in order to show off. The Yamakasi guys do it for passion, I know it, because I know people that have met and spoken to them.

[landgabriel]

@BlacksVideos So when someone posts a parkour video on youtube, they are showing off, but David stars in a big movie and he isn't? You have yourself an inconsistent argument there dude. I only point this out because you were critical of people who post their runs on youtube.

I described why I think it is cool to show ability to other people, to share skill. You said that is showing off. Then I asked about Belle and B13. You said that is 'spread parkour'. WTF dude?

[RookieN08]

@landgabriel Well, you got the point right there. But the question is what if he is doing it to inspire others and let others know about parkour????? instead of impressing others

[jesstar05]

@landgabriel he was talking more about showing off skills you have not mastered. He wants to see good Parkour skills on youtube and not unworked movements.

[landgabriel]

@jesstar05 That is a valid point IMO. I see heaps of videos on youtube of free running with horrible quality of movement. One of my favs is: /watch?v=0kn-JkyjREM&list=FLZi­Dvpasivd9wc-7ML0XAQg&index=25&­feature=plpp_video

[MoncaiZach]

@BlacksVideos Nobody really founded Parkour. They just coined the name, and the names of the basic vaults/wall techniques. Parkour is all about the movement, and what it means to you as a person. If you choose to follow David/Sebastiens "rules" then that's your choice. To me, Parkour is all about becoming a stronger person, physically and mentally. Parkour is unique to the individual, so to say that there are rules to abide by, and if you don't you're not a strong person, is very ignorant.

[BlacksVideos]

@MoncaiZach

The Yamakasi founded parkour/freerunning/add. The movements itself have existed since pre-history but parkour have not. There is only one sort of parkour, or freerunning, or art add. They created the method of training and its principles around it, much of its philosophy comes from Georges Hérberts 'Methode naturelle' aswell as Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun do. Parkour is not only about the movements but the spirit aswell. True. Because they say so and they're the founders.

[LEDZEPPELINJAMES]

somebody can put the subtitiles in spanish im from mexico and i like the parkour

[Digitrex666]

this should have much more than 40,000 views

[DayLatePK]

I love seeing that these two guys don't seem to have any bad blood. And there's something about David-- he's quiet, but when he talks, I want to listen to everything he says.

[thanatos01]

really love this video! its great to hear from 2 legends. sometimes i train with groups and sometimes by myself, its all about self improvement to me. if i record myself its not to impress people. its to see my progress. at the same time i LOVE competition but i dont use parkour for that. i will see someone do something that looks fun and i will try to do it, but that doesnt make it a competition,

[pk10jose]

Does anyone know how tall sebastien is???

[ptoledo55]

When new video Seb? Your work is great men. Thanks to share the right way.

[nLmRw]

Amen!

[TheLavaire]

The real problem with parkour isn´t that it´s growing, the problem is it´s growing to be competitive and unnaccurate. I think it was meant to relax the body-maybe for the fact it WAS a game- and be able to do what people claimed to be impossible, being physical or mental.

[homegrove123]

@TheLavaire People are full of pride, and love to turn everything into a competition, so this doesn't surprise me. I'm actually very casual in what I do, and that's one of the things that attracted me to parkour: it doesn't have to be competitive, it can just be for fun!

[x1mp0]

@TheLavaire Indeed, ego is in peoples' nature, so whenever they see an opportunity to show something new they can do to the people they know it's only natural to show that they can do it, and do it good. This only leads to competition though, and people end up getting the wrong perspective. But as time passes by, that person is bound to stop and think "who am I fooling? Who am I showing off to?"

He/she will then sooner or later realize that it's all about self-improvement. Not competition. :)

[BlacksVideos]

@x1mp0

Yeah, our desire to impress other people is in the human nature. Especially for us guys; we love the feeling of impressing the opposite sex, and it's often unconscious because It's deep rooted in us. Freerunning/parkour/whatever is not about this. It's about having control over yourself and being strong. I've been focusing on exactly this - going agianst my desire to impress, and it's hard, because It's unconscious, and unless you're not thinking about it when you train, you will do it

[x1mp0]

@BlacksVideos Exactly c:

[LORDPUFFDADDY]

Sebastians ears are tiny

[dreamteamcoop]

@LORDPUFFDADDY, he's a french guadeloupean that's why his ears are small. Me too I'm a french guadeloupean and i have small ears like him and ALL my family except - for some reasons - my grandfather have small ears (lol)

[ri90rz]

is it french?

[mrandersonniga]

It actually makes perfect sense that a Frenchman would make running away as fast as possible their most devoted sport..

[barennis]

@mrandersonniga As opposed to other smarter people who just stay and die? Plus, parkour is not just escape technique, it's pursuit technique. So it can go either way.

[9ayrawan]

True parkour is without Acrobatics !!!!!!!!!!!

[tahaarshadshaheen]

Today's is Sebastian Foucan's 37th birthday according to Wikipedia.

[CrissUrbanNinja]

ALALALALALA..

[scardorn145]

where is that filmed with that thingy in background?

[Natterz666]

wow, some truly awesome and highly inspirational stuff there... i hadn't thought about it in that way for a long time...so thanks :) you have re-ignited my passion...ill see you guys around ;)

[blue2kid3]

Where are you SEB????

[erwan59riffe]

le parkour c'est vraiment allé d'un poin a un otre en se déplacent le plu vite possible et les freerunning c pluss les saltos etc...

[trianglesale]

Esse que quelqun peut expliquer la différence entre le parcours et le freerunning?

[24Hendel]

@trianglesale Pas de problèmes, le Parkour, c'est juste avancer, passer les obstacdles le plus vite et le plus efficacement possible, tandis que le freerunning, c'est monter sur un obstacle, et au lieu de redescendre en sautant, tu redescend en vrille, ou en salto etc, le freerunning, c'est le coté Freestyle du Parkour, mais le Parkour c'est uniquement passer les obstacles le plus rapidement et effecacement possible, et maintenant, les gens ne font plus trop la diff entre Parkour et Freerunning

[trianglesale]

@24Hendel Merci bien pour ton explication :)

[LINKchris87]

we spanish know english. you should learn spanish my friends!! and chinese, it will be quite useful in the next decades

[chrimunn]

0:03 - i need one of those in my back yard

[ATACXGYM]

Have we got subtitles in English?

[phiqtionalism]

The subtitles don't work. ????

[daviduchija]

DONDE DONDE VIVE DAVID BELLE QUISIERA IR UN DIA A QUE ME ENSEÑE LOS FUNDAMENTOS REALES Y LA ESCENCIA DE LOQ EU S EL PARKOUR REALMENTE

[ekojk1242]

The one thing that I hate is when people watch and stare at me in the streets. I mean like Oh my god im just doing my thing whats wrong with you!!!

[MatthewGoodRox]

I wish David spoke English as well, so that I could listen to him speak as I do my work.

[matroid9]

Most teens these days (if they even do parkour) do parkour or freestyle for the purpose of showing off. It has been proven that when you try to look cool, you WILL screw up. I have practiced at my high school every day for four months, and all people say to me is "let's see your best flip", "oh, you think you're so fucking boss", and "wow...". Overcoming this feeling of negativity was just as difficult as learning how to do a decent lazy vault. Now, i am content and ready to really get good.

[Zengetsu46]

keep the basics, and keep our ego basic in the beginning we say oh this move isn't good enough to be on the net or in a vid somewhere but it was good enough for us and parkour is about being true to one's self knowing your body and its limitations and always push those limitations to become better at be ourself to "fully live" everyday

[StepRun1]

It would be nice if there an German translation.

[mrmunkyman1]

Where is that large structure based?

[McDog3]

@mrmunkyman1 It is in Lisses, France. Its called Dam du Lac.

[sky1guitar]

@mrmunkyman1 It is Dame Du Lac in Lisses,France

[ranuvawinter]

alot of people are killing the philosophy of parkour:( ..sebastien foucan and david belle are legends!

[Freerunsven]

смотрел только с переводом на русский) обе части... оч понравилось)

[saidhipi]

respect ;)

[vashartcg]

gracias david y sebastien muchas gracias que madures tan grande

[vashartcg]

gracias a ustedes david y sebastien muchas gracias veo que ahora ustedes tiene una madures sobre la vida muy buena muchas gracias

[TrixAlianceMedia]

@Rahmael People should be allowed to show off their skills because they have worked hard to get good and they should be allowed to be proud and show their achievements without being frowned upon and recording yourself allows you to look back and tweak whatever you did wrong filming isnt showing off :)

[BlacksVideos]

@TrixAlianceMedia

Parkour is also about being a strong invidual (like the two men in the video). If you're showing off infront of crowds, or cameras, you're not having controll of yourself, and you're not being strong. Strong also means that you can stand peer pressure, that you have self-distance, and believe in yourself. The only one that can answer if you're moving in order impress is yourself.

There are no medals in parkour/fr/add, no masters, only another day of even harder training.

[anananwar]

There are many reasons why people dance, and many reasons why people fight. Of course we tend to think some reasons are better then others, but at the end of the day to each his own. Parkour is the same. It's much harder to teach people why to move then it is how to move. And i think it's to easy to just blame the media. Whatever the movement is now, we've chosen it for ourselves, and should take responsibility for the good and the bad parts.

[BabyHandsPK]

Very inspirational words spoken by two great men. Parkour means so much to me. I don't need big jumps or extremely flashy tricks. I can just go outside by myself, find a picnic table, and do parkour for a couple hours. Flow work, working on the basics, rolls, just got to make sure it's all movement and it all comes from me. :)

[DanielStacy]

i relate with this because when i first started i had no clue what i was doing then i found some people to train with and i figured out that there are moves and a philosophy but just in the last few months have i really been hacking my movement on a base level almost on a scientific level. i think about everything that i am doing and the most efficient way to keep the energy moving and flowing. i work on small stuff and now the big stuff is not strenuous or hard it is just flow like everything.

[Z3erval]

El Parkour nos hace descubrirnos en realidad.

Gracias David Belle.

[parkour457]

PARKOUR and only PARKOUR from A to B

[leaderboy96]

It is my hope that these interviews begin to reverse the snowballing misconception of Parkour and Freerunning.

David did a splendid job of summarising both his own and Seb's views of their respective movements.

Freerunning, the focus being FREE, concentrates on Parkour being a journey, something different for everyone.

Parkour reveals the fundamentals and basics for any persons journey.

This is my philosophy.

[pughparkour]

@leaderboy96 I really doubt they will have much of an effect, as much as I'd like them to. What gets spread now is essentially what the media portraying parkour and freerunning want to put out. And for people that don't care about parkour (that is, most people), a flip is WAY more entertaining than the idea of efficient movement.

[FernandadeCamargo]

Gente muito legal, pra quem ainda não sabe, tem a opção de mudar o idioma da tradução, ali na opção CC (Closed Caption), da pra escolher vários idiomas, assim ninguém terá o trabalho de ter que traduzir tudo de novo, como foi feito na 1ª parte, claro que não tá perfeito a tradução, mas já ta de bom tamanho. Nanda Camargo

[FernandadeCamargo]

@FernandadeCamargo 

[PkFrfax]

AZO does parkour while juggling

[deidara38]

valla eso es genial que bueno ver por fin algo muy esperado

[TheGabeArnold]

@kjh8766 - I'd say the stunts you do are not Parkour. They're just stunts and tricks. The movements don't mean much taken by themselves, it's the mental side that makes it Parkour and a cohesive whole. A jump is a jump, a cat leap is a cat leap. The drive to improve, to find your limits and your "real self" makes it Parkour. That's my take anyway.

[Mimitjie]

@TheGabeArnold that's very nicely put

[kjh8766]

It`s very difficult.... difficult.... Parkour is very likely to Wushu or other martial arts philosophy. I`m so lack of parkour mind and mental. David and Seb always inspiration me. Thanks

[TimH86]

I think it's really important to hear from you David and Sebastien. Thank you for sharing these videos with us. The point David makes on starting what he finished goes for a lot of things and its where the media can take a run with you.. Like competition right now.

For me parkour has always been simple in essence, but SO hard to explain and maintain the true spirit. This message is important to me and many more. You can't say someone is wrong, only show the way and lead by example.

Stay strong!

[con31773]

Well put, really inspiring too here what it means to some of the most well known faces in parkour.

[jerodlb]

thanks...

[TJtraceur]

Thank you for these videos.

David's answers are so well articulated, and they both use such good metaphors.

[vallgron]

i dont get you people at all your makeing showing off seem like its a terrbile act

[daveywalmsley]

@vallgron What? It is terrible. Parkour is about self development and the physical and mental condition. Not proving you've got the biggest jump, or furthest vault. If you knew what parkour was about and respected its past then you'd understand.

[TimH86]

@vallgron you can show someone what you are capable of, but it is a fragile line between that and showing off.

If you really 'show off', you are prone to take more risks, which is not necessary AT ALL to have fun practicing parkour/freerunning and becoming a strong practicioner. If your goal is only to progress and become a little bit better every day, you will always have a new goal to train towards and parkour will never stop for you. Parkour is very personal if you understand its essence :)

[TraceurZeno]

Merci Seb and David

[streetmirage]

Can't wait for the next part!!

[yoannlerouxHD]

perfect thanks seb ;)

[kasaikun619]

thumbs up for the basics

[monitolocko0]

valen verga por que no le pusieron los subtitulos bien en español como la primera parte

[Rahmael]

well spoken. Im not talented or high-skilled at parkour but i was not satisfied with my training habits because i could already feel the pressure of showing-off rising. Its still a battle with my ego.But there is no purpose to be better than others. Only to be better than you was yersterday. So I thought fuck this! no filming anymore, no training in large groups or jams. Now I only train to be able to run from one point of my city to the other end without wasting too much energy. back to basics

[hindikoalamilalagay]

@Rahmael "there is no purpose to be better than others. Only to be better than you was yersterday" - i like that. and i do parkour alone. i think doing it with groups is a lot better because of safety and brotherhood. that "no more videos" got into me thinking too. cuz everytime i go out there i bring me my lil camera and record it. i thinks theres some of me wants to show off too. but i also video myself to see how im doing it and how i can get better. goodluck to all us doing parkour!

[DavidBray170]

@Rahmael

You dont have to show off man, and i'm glad you changed it. I uploaded one early tape and thought 'this is not parkour, parkour is doing it' and stopped.

Hope its going well for you

[Daltonator87]

@Rahmael "back to the basics" has defined all of the parkour that my friend and i have been doing for the past couple months. we do the efficient, quick moves and fine-tune them to feel ever more fluid.

[MrElzizou]

@Rahmael thats so true but the feeling of doing a big trick is great but when theres no one around it dosint feel worth it...

[MRFlipy]

@MrElzizou yea but you feel it within yourselve and now you know what you can do

[MrElzizou]

@MRFlipy yes thats true but you cant show anybody "what you can do" because it would be showing off...

[MRFlipy]

@Rahmael hell yea dude never feel pressured

[netwiz2]

@Rahmael before i started practicing parkour, i used to breakdance, and i used to follow this golden rule "i'm not trying to dance better than anyone else, i'm trying to dance better than myself" :-)........as for ur way of training...that's what i'm doing now, from A to B in lowest energy possible.....take care..and thanks for sharing ur thoughts.

[raultricking]

@Rahmael so, no backflips allowed xDD

[PyroD00d]

please tell me we get to see david training :)

[ThibaultLansade]

Je comprends tout à fait ce que David veut dire. En fait vous avez servi d'exemple, et ce que vous avez montré les premières fois a servi de base à tout le monde. Seulement le parkour est visuel, beau, impressionnant, et par cet aspect, il va influencer ses pratiquants à se montrer, à toujours en faire plus pour acquérir une reconnaissance, et cela passera par le parkour, mais aussi et plus facilement par le freerunning, et c'est ce qui peut être dommage finalement.

[climax360]

when will english version be uploaded

[FreerunningTVDotCom]

@climax360

It has been translated into English already. Use the YouTube captions button on the bottom right.

[Xpedite]

@FreerunningTVDotCom  there are none??

[UillanDR]

@FreerunningTVDotCom Desse jeito eu pude traduzir direto do inglês para o português! Obrigado!

[dromk1]

esta muy buena la entrevista a david belle

espero que este traducida en unos dias al español ;)

David belle and sebatien foucan greetings from chile

[ajudes]

Love to hear what they have to say about what is happening nowadays.