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  • @rjw04 I'm not a blood drinker (Sanguine) so I don't know.

  • Im a donor to a sang and im just gunna say skrew these people on youtube. They hav no idea what there tlkin bout... Maybe if they took like 10 min of there time to realize how idotic they sound then just maybe we could all just get along:)

  • I'm interested in this kind of stories, but I don't really know much about them. You might have said it already or in another video - in that case I'm sorry, I think I missed that. I just want to know what you mean by feeding off of energy? Do you mean the energy emitted by organisms and objects, or another kind? And how do you do that? There is this story about people called 'breatharians' who feed from the sunlight and oxygen - is it something similar to that?

  • @Yoshikkko It sounds similar, thank you for giving me some new information to research. It's really just a modified form of meditation really. Kudos.

  • except for the form of animal predation/parasitism, there's no such thing as a kind of Vampirism that isn't fictitious.

  • @mmurrer I whole-heartedly agree with you, there is no such thing as actual vampirism. All of that crap is mythological/folklore. The word is just used to describe a concept... I submit a different one: How about 'parasite?'

  • FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

  • @5pid3y Rofl.

  • i have a question: It would seem the sanguine vampires are rather sociopathic, drinking other people's blood. Why? what is the need for it? It would seem these people have issues connecting with reality or some mental problem. Cannibalism is not a good thing., it shows severe problems are present.

    And since you use the word 'vampire' as a metaphor for what you do, that means your a leech on other people, effectively parasitic.

    Also does that mean you'll explode near high energy outputs? :B

  • As I have stated before, I myself am not a sanguine, but I can posit from what I have learned.

    It is not a matter of sociopathic behavior, but rather a need for energy. It's highly unlikely that it qualifies as cannibalism because they do not consume the flesh of other human beings.

    Yes, since I use the term "vampire" as a metaphor, that does make me a parasite for all intents and purposes. However, if you've paid any attention whatsoever you would know that I do not "feed" off of people.

  • Can one possibly describe with this 'energy' is that seems to be a constant word used in reference to whats desired in the blood. Can it actually be told what this 'Energy' scientifically is IN the blood? Or will it be some inconceivable answer that no one can comprehend because we lack some magic knowledge of some kind? I only can think one would go and say 'Essence/Energy/Lifeforce' or something maybe found in a science fiction novel :/

  • Why is it that beforehand mythology represented Vampires as super human beings?

    How is it that you're considered a Vampire when you're a normal human being?

    Vampires are the mythological creatures we do hear about..and I fail to understand how one that is human compares themselves to such beings.

  • The community decided to use a term to best describe the concept. However, that term wound up coming with a lot of baggage and misconceptions. For better or worse, we're stuck with the connotations of the term.

    Vampirism is a metaphor. None of us will contest the fact that we're all human beings, at least I do not.

  • I'm never in the news because I uphold the Masquerade religiously. Also I have Obfuscate because I'm a Nosferatu so nobody can see me.

  • I'm glad you enjoy playing RPGs. If you are so inclined to hold it religiously, then I suppose you just broke the "masquerade" by telling me what you are. Grats, the police are looking for you now.

    Anyone else? I don't drink blood, I don't burn in the sun, I don't have super-human speed or strength; I'm just a HUMAN BEING.

    YouTube is populated by sad, pathetic little souls living in their parent's basement watching videos and trolling the ones they claim to despise yet can't stop discussing.

  • But you don't even have fangs.

  • did you even listen to her? shes an energy vampire...

  • I love your videos, especially the one on elemental vampirsm and your related article at the Lost Haven forums. I added these to my Real Vampires playlist. Best Wishes. - P.

  • Thanks so much, I'm flattered. :)

  • Have you ever read one of Michelle belanger's books upon Vampirism? Im sure you have. I heard she is quite deeply respected in the Vampyre community. I would like to know something, what is your thoughts upon "Hybrids"? One who drinks blood but can also feed upon energy? What does your House say about that? What are their feelings and thoughts?

  • House Lost Haven does not have an official position on anything because people with different views are encouraged to share said views. Everyone in the House is from a different walk of life. I have read parts of Michelle's books and she is very knowledgeable. My personal thoughts on Hybrids? To each their own.

  • Metaphysics, by definition can not be experimented on, as it is a (not) field of science that studies the unobservable. They are theories that are "not fallible, testable or provable statements". What studies on vampirism have been thoroughly researched in major intitutions/universtities, and have had thier work published in mainstream journals, or have come under review from several researchers? For that matter, how can one quantify chi?

  • Chi is a vague word, and as you know, has it's origins in China, when modern medicine, of course, didn't exist. Chi was a way of explaining things which, were not understud then, but are now.

  • Not testable? I smell an invisible dragon.

  • It should be understood that metaphysics is not exactly a science and has little to no acceptance within the Science community.

  • "Metaphysics" is simply an umbrella term to refer to the unexplained phenomena that humans have been observing and interacting with for thousands of years. Just as Chemistry was once Alchemy and Physics was once Magic our new understanding of the subtle interactions between mind, body and our environment will too one day evolve into a "real" science. All science is the product of questioning the known. I would never argue that what we observe is evidence, evidence of WHAT is the question.

  • Again, you are referring to something which was poorly understood, and thus, was rationalised as best it could be. It is ironic that you believe metaphysics would one day be an actual science, since it would mean setting science back by over a century. Scientific discoveries tend to be an understanding of a phenomena in chemical of physical terms. Not spiritual.

  • I don't expect metaphysics itself to become a real science any more than I expect alchemy to become a real science. What I expect is that over time our understanding of the reasoning behind this phenomenon will evolve and a new science may be born of it. I'm well aware that metaphysics as it stands now has no scientific leg to stand on. Most of what we observe can be chalked up to psychological phenomena and the like. I simply think that one day it will evolve as other disciplines have.

  • How do you feed on energy? like, what does pronic vampirism consists of?

  • I wrote an article about the kind of vampirism I identify with and relate to; I think it will answer your questions. If you go to my Elemental Vampirism video, there is a link in the sidebar to said article.

  • When I looked up "Idiopathic Hypersomnia", I found nothing linking it to any supposed vampirism. I also am curious as to how any one can feed on energy. Which form of energy do you feed on? Kinetic, potential, nuclear, thermal, electric or chemical?

  • That's because Idiopathic Hypersomnia is an actual diagnosable medical problem. Vampirism is still seen as Metaphysical, we have no scientific means of measuring or "proving" Metaphysics; the same way Theoretical Science is accepted but still "unproven." I feed on Pranic energy, also known as Chi or Ki; specifically Elemental energies: Of or relating to the Earth and it's elements.

  • If we take in our hand any volume; of divinity or school metaphysics, for instance; let us ask, Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number? No. Does it contain any experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact and existence? No. Commit it then to the flames: for it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion.

  • This is more than some passing solipsistic fad. There are observable reactions that are repeatable through experimentation. The skeptic mind must approach the results of these experiments with the usual objectivity, ensuring that we don't simply support our predetermined conclusions, but the question of "What DOES cause these observable changes" has still as of yet to be answered definitively, leaving the metaphysical in the same realm as quantum theory. Food for thought.

  • I am interested in any evidence to support your supposed energy vampirism.

  • The only other shred of solid evidence I can offer to you other than my own experiences is being diagnosed with "Idiopathic Hypersomnia." It's a physical manifestation of something that may or may not be a part of my "vampirism."

  • Interesting. But how is it evidence of your "vampirism" when it may or may not be a part of said "vampirism"?

  • That's the point. If I tried to make it evidence of anything other than itself then my observations cease to be science and turn to speculation. The house is on fire. There is a burnt match next to the front door. The east wall is melted. We can stipulate conclusions but those conclusions may be wholly untrue or may lack the evidence we really need to form a firm theory. I can call out my experiences but identifying them without learning more isn't just unscientific, it's foolhardy.

  • I myself am a sanguine, but as a head of a coven, I get information about energy (pranic) vampirism as well, and I really appreciate that you can show your face to the world, even on the news, that's a major goal achieved in our community, and these videos that you are making are really useful to people outside of our community who are maybe misinformed about us. thank you very much for making these vids.

  • You're very welcome. I was hoping to help people and I'm glad to hear that my intentions are being well received. Thank you very much.

  • you're the star here, don't thank me ;)

  • My previous post was directed to whomever was insulting Shaderraberry, not too her. I hope I didn't click on the wrong thing. It would be nice if you would make more videos because they are so much nicer than others in this forum.

  • Thank you Mollidew, I appreciate your comments and support. I will make more videos as I gather more information. :)

  • Very informative, thank you^^

  • You're quite welcome.

  • are you a lefty?

  • Nope. I'm actually ambidextrous; right dominant though.

  • Would like to leave a question for you, if I had one, just can't think of any I may have at the moment. So I'm leaving a compliment: you're really beautiful - a bit exotic appearance & charming voice.

  • Thank you so much, that's so very nice of you. I appreciate your compliment. If you think of a question I'd be glad to answer it. :)

  • That's all my pleasure, Shade. :) I looked once more through the article, & made sure, that there's said no word about initiation. Firstly I thought, that just missed that part. So I'm a bit curious about any details, about the way, it goes, if it's not a secret, sure. Thank you forward. :)

  • I dont think you understand that supernatural vampires do excist and that vampires drink human blood I have been learning about vampires for 2 years I have traveled north south east and west, and I do not think that the on line vampires know much about vampires I am not a vampire....... I have been learning about them and they are the undead

  • Well, we're NOT talking about supernatural vampires. If you ARE talking about supernatural vampires, then you're watching the wrong videos and talking to the wrong people. Go look for paranormal videos and leave us be.

  • I suppose the "14" after your name is indicative of your age. Two years of "studying" vampires does not qualify you to make several condescending statements that you believe to be the truth. I'm talking about modern vampirism not supernatural vampires. Supernatural/Folklore Vampires do not exist. Go back to whatever Twilight hole you crawled out of and start learning about reality. By all means go ahead and indulge your beliefs in the Supernatural Vampire but do so elsewhere.

  • You should not speak to this lady like that. She is a very knowledgeable person on this area. The subculture does exist but it does not require anyone's belief. This is FYI.

  • your are beautiful...hehe

  • Thank you very much. :)

  • You also forget to speak about us dual feeders as if we do not exist. I sure wouldn't initiate you into a coven let alone a house if after 2 years of you studying they way you say you do to miss so much and you say that they already welcomed you in. In my day the head of your house would have been taken to a blood bar for a little cut and poke on the not so pleasent side. The Vampire community has sure dumbed down allot.

  • My reason for not mentioning hybrid vampires (Sanguine and Pranic) was because the main focus of this video was to enlighten people on a basic level. If I had thrown in more information about elemental vampirism, sexual vampirism, medical sanguine and other types it would have probably led to some confusion; therefore, I decided to leave it out in order to have other topics to discuss further on down the road.

  • Part of becoming a member of House Lost Haven is studying all belief systems, not just vampirism. I don't believe that not mentioning every single topic in an entire subject on my introductory video is a good basis to form any kind of substantive opinion on its content. Thanks for watching.

  • I have been learning about vampires for two years.

    I think that she does not know that vampires do exist.

    supernatural vampires do exist.

    she does not really understand. that vampires drink blood and if you do not drink blood then you are not a vampire. but real vampires are of the undead,

  • Mythical vampirism refers to the "myth", the fiction. Undead vampires, stakes, holy water, etc. Modern vampirism refers to the social phenomena of vampirism, energy works, sanguine and pranic/energy vampirism. It's on wikipedia under "energy vampire". Look it up.

  • Mythical vampirism refers to the "myth", the fiction. Undead vampires, stakes, holy water, etc. Modern vampirism refers to the social phenomena of vampirism, energy works, sanguine and pranic/energy vampirism. It's on wikipedia under "energy vampire". Look it up.

  • I think these vidio by vampire

    Zilchy and the othere just expose the vampires and the people what have the blood disorder I think this stuff is dangerous I know if I were a vampire I would not want to be recoginized on the internet just think if jesus freaks read these sites what in would happen then? I feel sorry for the people who have the blood disorder.... I think the llfestylers are a real mockery and make fun of people what are sick

  • Blood disorder? 99.9% of the time Sanguine vampirism has absolutely nothing to do with a "blood disorder". Not only do blood disorders have nothing to do with modern sanguine vampirism, but if you watch the video Shade says she's not a blood drinker. Watch before you comment.

  • that is bull shit vampires have a blood disease and the reast are lifestylers just think of what it would be like if you needed to drink blood to keep up? I think these web site are pure mockey of people who are sick and have a blood disease

  • Shade isn't a lifestyler or a blood drinker. Where in this video do you get either impression? Did you watch it?

  • you know nothing of true vampires and the friends you speak of seem like typical Gothic idiots, a true vampire does associate with other vampires and he does not partake in sexual intercourse. they are the most intelligent among us, if you do not know why the moon exist and if you have no interest in developing the mind you are not a vampire, knowledge is what Lucifer stole from the gods and it is what scattered through out this world when Lucifer died a mortal death vampires descend from angels

  • I have been learning about vampires for two years on the internet. that there are two kinds. the ones with blood disorder, and the lifestylers.

  • life stylers arent a kind of vamipre, they mock it. i suggest you start looking elsewhere to find True information on real vampirism. and by the way anshardark is right, it is not a blood disorder, you should know that after your 2 years of larning on the subject.

  • I have absolutely no idea why you've chosen to drag christian mythology into the comment section of a video about vampirism, but I'm not making too much sense of anything you're saying. "Vampires descend from angels"? Wtf. I think someone's been reading a little too much Anne Rice.

  • anshar"dark" shit why am i even talking to you, im sure you think marilyn manson is a vampire.

  • Actually, I think Marilyn Manson is an entertainer. If my name was AnsharSwiss would you be coming up with a lame putdown about cheese? Grow up.

  • lol...

  • That's a funny interpretation of the Bible. Assuming anything in the Bible is true, Lucifer did more or less nothing, apart from corrupting people.  Assuming the Bible is true. This nutty version of yours has no apparent basis in religion, though it parallels prometheus, who stole fire from the gods.

  • I like coming to the web site to read about vampires it is intertaining,

    BUT! 

    I still believe that Vampires are of the supernatural and of the undead and live on the living and sleep in coffins.

    I still think that the word vampire belongs were it comes from

    the books the movies, hollywood universal studios,

    I think that words have meaning, and what is suppose to be should be,

    candlemagick

  • Modern Vampirism has nothing to do with the "undead". You're not allowing yourself to separate the two disparate concepts of vampirism and mythical vampirism.

  • tell me what you think a modern vampire is.....

  • I did just tell you about modern vampirism. Go to wikipedia and look up Energy Vampire.

  • That was done nicely...good job!

  • Thanks very much, Hecata.

  • It is good to see more serious vampire information coming out. It is truly a good time to push for recognition and research.

  • I couldn't agree more, Masticina.

  • Thanks, Zilch!

  • "When we associate ourselves with the word 'vampire,' we're describing the relationship that we have with the people around us."

    That is to date the best definition I have ever heard. I am glad that the artical turneed out for you guys, and I hope that it is recieved as well as it should be.

    Oh, and welcome to the 'tubes!

  • Thanks, Spirit. ;) That definition is credited to Anshar and it's very apt at describing modern energy-working/vampirism.

  • 'Twere nicely done.

    Overall, I found the article to be balanced and well-written but only an overview. Your vids will be a great way for people to get more info. Go you!

  • Thank you, Sylvere. I appreciate your comment.

  • Thanks so much for posting this, sweetheart. I hope people take advantage of the resource you're offering. I'm proud of you.

  • Thank you. <3

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