serz look at the jockey in 3rd plcace at the end stop hitting the horse your not going to catch black caviar soo stop trying lol god i love this horse
it's SICK how this Horse can pull up 100m out in a sprint. I've seen alot of great sprinters in my time, but even all the the greats had a day where they couldn't handle the ground or got in a bad position. This horse just steamrolls like she's working at home. Frankel is great, but he's not been tested by anything decent, and he's times are slow for 8f. This horse is hitting close to record times with the Jockey on he's cellphone in the straight. Im irish, we dont have a horse in europe CLOSE
She is one tough cookie. Her record speaks for itself. But as the Americans say, Zenyatta was the queen when she got to 10-10......then she continued to race and win vs poor fields(Aside from 09 classic), and then lost the big one when it mattered. I hope MUCH more for this girl. I mean she wins with absolute ease.....that is why you get rated as #1.
@TicinoParadise I loved Zenyatta last yr 19 going 4 20, she has to get beat by Blame, Well My opinion is on the jockey he souldnt have had her to make up 20 lenghts & settle 4 second. No wonder he cried after the race. Anyway what a race she did. Oh well as long as she is happy, in her retirement.
@TicinoParadise Zenyatta was a good horse, never left the US 19 from 20 only to loose by a jockeys fault. Im from oz to watch it live hoping she would win, was dissapointing. Mike smith I would cry to If I was u, she didnt loose my much, but a lot of ground to make up. He knew he made a mistake. Well its about a year now, is she having any babies yet. Oh how cute. Mmm whats the asking price.
At the moment I doubt if we have nothing that could live with Black Caviar in the UK as Frankel is not being aimed at sprints.Mind you he is so powerful if he were I would have to side with him as he is a monster and now been rated 7lbs clear of Black Caviar by Timeform who rated her the best in the world before the 2000 Guineas. Over a mile he went so fast he was 15 lengths clear his field after 5f and would have won any sprint. As good as she is this horse Frankel is in a class of his own
@FIST2k8 He is rated on his mile wins, she in her sprinting. She has run final sections under 33 sec on a dead track. In the Newmarket she came home in 32.6secs with 58kgs or 9st 2lb, eased up by about 2 lens, or .4 secs. She could probably get down to about 1m 6.5.to 1m 6.7 at Flemington. Frankel has never gone that fast at any stage of his races. He would never beat her in a sprint, barring injury, and we don't know what she would do over a mile.
@fowlergod yeh right!!!! frankels not the best horse in the world hes been racing against 2yo n 3yos how about he proves himself even against n older horse before he takes on the world,and so you think will be better then ever uk ,hasnt seen the best of him yet and when you do youll know why he has the reputation he has
indisputed champion of the world!!! really? champion of australia YES, I reserve judgement until she races against the best from AROUND THE WORLD if she travels and beats all before her then I will hold my hands up but until then stop the hype, less of the tripe and show us what you got, Oh and just a thought So you think the all conquering best thing since sliced bread got beat by Rewilding, Sort it out and run the horse against real competition the best horse in the world is FRANKEL no doubt
@MrCaspa21 That would be because he won a classic doing hanstands,also because his form i.e beating Canford Cliffs by 4 lengths when Canford Cliffs was the worlds highest rated older miler who had beaten Goldikova a 3time breeders cup winner now can you see the sense.Black Caviar is the worlds highest rated sprinter with a rating of 135! she is clearly a great horse no doubts.Frankel though has worldwide classic form and is rated 143 the 3rd highest ever,officially 8lbs ahead of BC
Black caviar has no serious rival in Europe or the US, where they race primarily on dirt. If she travels to Hong Kong and possibly to Japan later in the year and wins both races, all future competition will be for the greatest sprinter of all time.She would beat Rocket Man as comprehensively as she does Hay List. . Only the vagaries of travel could bring her undone. She will be the biggest draw card at Ascot and I can't wait to see her photographed with HM The Queen.
@Fatkidshanklin You're kidding me right? How can you say a horse like this is bull, when, in this instance, shes run wide for the majority of the race, she makes the turn awkwardly, barely needs to be extended, as if running trackwork, eased up on the line and still beats them by an easy 2 lengths down a 200m straight. Her timeform rates her #1 in the world. Not Autralia. WORLD. So, really, she has already proved herself better than your Europeans. If being #1 in the world in BS, then fuck me.
By a neck over 6furlongs. Kingsgate Native can beat anything on a good day and what about Inxile winning at France over the week-end. Do you think Caviar could beet Overdose - who is actually racing outside of his home nation going to Royal Ascot.
They, try to in the Melborune Cup but apart from that there are no races that would be aimed at over European races. I'm just saying that horses from Australia or Dubai don't very often transfer that form in Europe whereas the British and French do.
The americans have. Everybody thought J J The Jet Plane was good but only ever won a class 3 at Windsor. So until I see this one run in Europe I won't say that she's better than Borderlescott or Equiano.
@CharlesOlney23 Are you kidding? Equiano was beaten by Starspangledbanner who was bred and raced in Australia. Starspangledbanner wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Black Caviar over here.
At the 50m mark she was three lens in front going away, which suggest she could have won by at least 4. If that is so, she could have got the time down to under 1 min 9.6 if ridden out, and that is after travelling wide most of the race. Next up she will be racing clockwise and up the Randwick rise, and against Hay List. He races tomorrow at Warwick Farm in the Challenge Stakes and is expected to win easily. After that she steps up to 1400m. her sire had not trouble with that distance.
serz look at the jockey in 3rd plcace at the end stop hitting the horse your not going to catch black caviar soo stop trying lol god i love this horse
puppy13337 2 weeks ago
it's SICK how this Horse can pull up 100m out in a sprint. I've seen alot of great sprinters in my time, but even all the the greats had a day where they couldn't handle the ground or got in a bad position. This horse just steamrolls like she's working at home. Frankel is great, but he's not been tested by anything decent, and he's times are slow for 8f. This horse is hitting close to record times with the Jockey on he's cellphone in the straight. Im irish, we dont have a horse in europe CLOSE
Tobougg 3 months ago
She is one tough cookie. Her record speaks for itself. But as the Americans say, Zenyatta was the queen when she got to 10-10......then she continued to race and win vs poor fields(Aside from 09 classic), and then lost the big one when it mattered. I hope MUCH more for this girl. I mean she wins with absolute ease.....that is why you get rated as #1.
TicinoParadise 8 months ago
@TicinoParadise I loved Zenyatta last yr 19 going 4 20, she has to get beat by Blame, Well My opinion is on the jockey he souldnt have had her to make up 20 lenghts & settle 4 second. No wonder he cried after the race. Anyway what a race she did. Oh well as long as she is happy, in her retirement.
taykyl001 7 months ago
@TicinoParadise Zenyatta was a good horse, never left the US 19 from 20 only to loose by a jockeys fault. Im from oz to watch it live hoping she would win, was dissapointing. Mike smith I would cry to If I was u, she didnt loose my much, but a lot of ground to make up. He knew he made a mistake. Well its about a year now, is she having any babies yet. Oh how cute. Mmm whats the asking price.
taykyl001 6 months ago
At the moment I doubt if we have nothing that could live with Black Caviar in the UK as Frankel is not being aimed at sprints.Mind you he is so powerful if he were I would have to side with him as he is a monster and now been rated 7lbs clear of Black Caviar by Timeform who rated her the best in the world before the 2000 Guineas. Over a mile he went so fast he was 15 lengths clear his field after 5f and would have won any sprint. As good as she is this horse Frankel is in a class of his own
FIST2k8 8 months ago
@FIST2k8 He is rated on his mile wins, she in her sprinting. She has run final sections under 33 sec on a dead track. In the Newmarket she came home in 32.6secs with 58kgs or 9st 2lb, eased up by about 2 lens, or .4 secs. She could probably get down to about 1m 6.5.to 1m 6.7 at Flemington. Frankel has never gone that fast at any stage of his races. He would never beat her in a sprint, barring injury, and we don't know what she would do over a mile.
SvendBosanvovski 7 months ago
@fowlergod yeh right!!!! frankels not the best horse in the world hes been racing against 2yo n 3yos how about he proves himself even against n older horse before he takes on the world,and so you think will be better then ever uk ,hasnt seen the best of him yet and when you do youll know why he has the reputation he has
slobzer 8 months ago
indisputed champion of the world!!! really? champion of australia YES, I reserve judgement until she races against the best from AROUND THE WORLD if she travels and beats all before her then I will hold my hands up but until then stop the hype, less of the tripe and show us what you got, Oh and just a thought So you think the all conquering best thing since sliced bread got beat by Rewilding, Sort it out and run the horse against real competition the best horse in the world is FRANKEL no doubt
fowlergod09 8 months ago
@fowlergod09 Frankel can be the best in the world without leaving Elngland, but BC can't without leaving Aus? You're not making a lot of sense
MrCaspa21 6 months ago 5
@MrCaspa21 here some sense for you muppet frankel wont blow wind up nellie not in this life time over any distance, she is the greatest sprinter ever
hursty9013 4 months ago
@hursty9013
you may want to consult wikipedia on that one sweety. type in "List of leading Thoroughbred racehorses"
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@MrCaspa21 That would be because he won a classic doing hanstands,also because his form i.e beating Canford Cliffs by 4 lengths when Canford Cliffs was the worlds highest rated older miler who had beaten Goldikova a 3time breeders cup winner now can you see the sense.Black Caviar is the worlds highest rated sprinter with a rating of 135! she is clearly a great horse no doubts.Frankel though has worldwide classic form and is rated 143 the 3rd highest ever,officially 8lbs ahead of BC
MrConnolly25 2 months ago
@fowlergod09
well its 16 from 16 now. when is frankel coming out here to race her?
johnnytheprick 4 months ago
@johnnytheprick it wont happen cause they know they cannot win plus our seasons are different
hursty9013 4 months ago
Black caviar has no serious rival in Europe or the US, where they race primarily on dirt. If she travels to Hong Kong and possibly to Japan later in the year and wins both races, all future competition will be for the greatest sprinter of all time.She would beat Rocket Man as comprehensively as she does Hay List. . Only the vagaries of travel could bring her undone. She will be the biggest draw card at Ascot and I can't wait to see her photographed with HM The Queen.
SvendBosanvovski 9 months ago
Am awaiting the showdown between Black Caviar and Rocket Man :)
Well, she has to prove herself away from home ground.
Try the Japan grounds and Dubai in the near future, that will make a true champ.
stanlewong 9 months ago
@Fatkidshanklin You're kidding me right? How can you say a horse like this is bull, when, in this instance, shes run wide for the majority of the race, she makes the turn awkwardly, barely needs to be extended, as if running trackwork, eased up on the line and still beats them by an easy 2 lengths down a 200m straight. Her timeform rates her #1 in the world. Not Autralia. WORLD. So, really, she has already proved herself better than your Europeans. If being #1 in the world in BS, then fuck me.
Dreamscaape 9 months ago 5
By a neck over 6furlongs. Kingsgate Native can beat anything on a good day and what about Inxile winning at France over the week-end. Do you think Caviar could beet Overdose - who is actually racing outside of his home nation going to Royal Ascot.
CharlesOlney23 9 months ago
They, try to in the Melborune Cup but apart from that there are no races that would be aimed at over European races. I'm just saying that horses from Australia or Dubai don't very often transfer that form in Europe whereas the British and French do.
CharlesOlney23 9 months ago
The americans have. Everybody thought J J The Jet Plane was good but only ever won a class 3 at Windsor. So until I see this one run in Europe I won't say that she's better than Borderlescott or Equiano.
CharlesOlney23 9 months ago
@CharlesOlney23 Blah, why don't British horses prove themselves in Australia?
ApatheticLeader 9 months ago
@CharlesOlney23 Are you kidding? Equiano was beaten by Starspangledbanner who was bred and raced in Australia. Starspangledbanner wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Black Caviar over here.
Constance861973 9 months ago
Has yet to prove herself in Europe.
CharlesOlney23 10 months ago
@CharlesOlney23 Yeah ,cause Australian sprinters have never won in Europe look at our record never won at Ascot have we?
bulldogman59 9 months ago
At the 50m mark she was three lens in front going away, which suggest she could have won by at least 4. If that is so, she could have got the time down to under 1 min 9.6 if ridden out, and that is after travelling wide most of the race. Next up she will be racing clockwise and up the Randwick rise, and against Hay List. He races tomorrow at Warwick Farm in the Challenge Stakes and is expected to win easily. After that she steps up to 1400m. her sire had not trouble with that distance.
SvendBosanvovski 11 months ago
that was disgusting-most impressive of all wins sat back did it wide and completed what looked to be mere track work.
22987369 11 months ago
m.v. is not the place to be caught wide as she was most of the race, and still she did it easy.far too good for these.
miserkocho 11 months ago