If skeptical of Gerson, watch the movie. If still skeptical, could do research. All I see here is rude comments and arguments back and forth. Personally I feel sorry for ppl who keep undermining patient's recoveries without actually realizing how much the ideas behind Gerson vs. conventional treatments alone makes sense. It's not just detox, it's nutrition too; certain things work for different health issues. In the US, I don't think enough research is going towards what benefits patients most.
See cancerwinner website Jaquie Davison cured her melanoma using the Gerson cancer therapy 35 years ago and has remained cancer free 35 years and counting! Amazing story.
Why do you have to be a hippy to speak out against our health care? I am a proud conservative but watching my friend die of cancer and learning about chemo (read Questioning Chemotherapy) I am all for a new treatment for him and if Gerson can heal... has healed then I say, let us use it!
Because, using terms like 'hippy' is a weapon of propaganda, which is designed specifically to marginalize views to far left and make them appear uncredible. Of course it makes sense to look at using natural therapy in line with our bodies immune system, it is what nature intended, not to inject us with toxic chemicals. I say the toxic chemo philosophy is the one that need to be marginalized.
For a real chemo recovery rate after 5 years, Clinical Oncology Dec 2004 shows it to be about 2%! Many natural cures have over 90% success.
Essential websites include cancertutor. com and healingcancernaturally. com. One protocol covered is Johanna Budwig's flaxoil/cottage cheese, which is very powerful.
My husband is recovering by employing: a natural mainly raw diet, blended vegetable drinks, sprouts, Budwig's oil protocol, cleaning up toxins, getting sunshine, vitamins & supplements, etc.
The Gerson Therapy, attacks chronic disease at its causes: a combination of nutritional deficiency and toxicity. By reversing those two conditions, the body gets the tools with which to repair itself.
Hyperalimentation, supplementation, detoxification are the bases. 13 fresh pressed organic juices a day, 3 large organic vegan meals, coffee enemas to detox, vitamin, enzyme and mineral supplements.
The Therapy is detailed in "Healing the Gerson Way," by Charlotte Gerson and Beata Bishop.
@BlueEagle8 That was a cute, if ineffective use of the "Excluded middle" logical fallacy. No one said eating a healthy diet was quackery, only trying to cure cancer through diet alone, but hey, why let little details like what your opponent is actually saying get in the way of your retorts?
@ray34iyf "coming from someone who hasn't experienced this first hand."
Good point. We need to get more people to ditch science based medicine in favor of quackery. I own stock in Health Insurance companies and mortuaries, so increasing the cancer death rate is in my financial best interest. Keep up the good work. the harder you work and the more people you convert, the more money my investments will make.
@timhenson08 again.. hard to take someone serious who hasn't experienced these things first hand. negativity and ignorance will get you no where tim... only the grave.
@ray34iyf "hard to take someone serious who hasn't experienced these things first hand."
Next time you get sick, trying getting your humors balanced. Black bile is often under represented in the body. You have to try it before you can knock it you know.
And bleeding when you have a cold works wonders. Colds are caused by excess blood you know!
Topical mercury for acne works too. It was all the rage in the Middle Ages, ancient knowledge and all that.
@timhenson08 So you think by lumping Gerson and other natural healing techniques in with a bunch of stuff that doesn't work is a good way to prove your point? WOW. I can do that too... but it would do nothing but promote the type of debate that people like you dumb down the world with. Bravo Tim. Bravo.
@ray34iyf He kinda has a point. If the best defense you can offer is to ridicule people for not having tried it themselves, then you've already lumped YOURSELF in with all the other quacks.
Let's be blunt. If you look at the actual evidence, which is basically testimonials and nothing more, there's CENTURIES of "evidence" supporting the four humors. By the standards of evidence used by Gerson apologists, all those quack remedies timhenson08 mentioned are BETTER supported than Gerson.
@halleyscomet Ridicule? Come on. I think it's pretty fair to assume someone has no idea what they are talking about when they have no experience with gerson.
I'll be blunt too. Chemotherapy/radiation IS MEANT TO rip apart the patients immune system and destroy both BAD sells and GOOD. Most people are lucky to make it out of these 'treatments' alive.
On the other hand, the natural route of stopping what hurts you and doing what makes you healthy has an incredibly HIGH rate of success.
@ray34iyf "On the other hand, the natural route of stopping what hurts you and doing what makes you healthy has an incredibly HIGH rate of success."
That's a flat out lie and you can't back up your claim. If I didn't want the less intelligent members of society to get killed off to breed a better humanity, I'd be upset that you're making absurdly inflated claims about the efficacy of quackery. As it is however, you're a very good sercant of the modern eugenics movement. Thank you.
@ray34iyf "On the other hand, the natural route of stopping what hurts you and doing what makes you healthy has an incredibly HIGH rate of success."
That's a flat out lie and you can't back up your claim. If I didn't want the less intelligent members of society to get killed off to breed a better humanity, I'd be upset that you're making absurdly inflated claims about the efficacy of quackery. As it is however, you're a very good servant of the modern eugenics movement. Thank you.
@timhenson08 well looks like we have a lackey for big pharma and the drug companies. honestly, if you don't have enough common sense to see how this works, then this is all wasted on you. when you get cancer, go to your doctors and let them poison you and see how well that works for you. good luck.
LOL! ... and back up my claim?? ..are you serious? You are a lunatic. So I'm assuming continuing smoking, letting oneself continued to be exposed to radiation and polution and eating junkfood is a good route to go? Forget eating how every other living creature in the world eats and forget stoppage of doing things that harm us. Apparently that's quackery. Amazing. Do you have any idea about what you are calling 'quackery' by the way? Nah, didn't think so.
@ray34iyf "So you think by lumping Gerson and other natural healing techniques in with a bunch of stuff that doesn't work is a good way to prove your point?"
So where are the double blind, placebo controlled studies demonstrating efficacy for Gerson anyway? What evidence is there aside from testimonials? If all you have are testimonials then balancing of the humors is a better supported treatment methodology.
@halleyscomet LOL! That's it. I'm not going to argue with you or anyone else who is so close minded that it keeps them from seeing other perspectives. It's too bad. I feel sorry for you.
But if you actually open your mind, go see The Gerson Miracle movie.
@halleyscomet your close mindedness only serves to harm you. I have been using Gerson-lite (my own little name :) ) to heal from liver damage and other issues from accutane/lexapro use (basically p drugs that nearly killed me) and I am healing brilliantly. My skin has improved dramatically, my circulation throughout my limbs has gone from horrible to the best I've ever had, my energy is very high, I need little sleep, kidneys/liver no longer hurt... you want more proof? Proof is in the results
You haven't offered any proof yet, just an unverifiable testimonial from an anonymous source. How do I know your "improvement" is genuine, and not just confirmation bias and the placebo effect? How do I know you aren't a con artist trying to profit from quackery?
You're asking people to use scientifically debunked quack remedy based upon no evidence other than the marketing claims of those who profit from it.
@halleyscomet Let me guess: You vote Republican and believe that global warming is nonexistent.
Charlotte Gerson states it very well in this video.
Personally, I have known people cured of diabetes by the Gerson Institute method, but if you want to believe paying for medicine or needles is best, then they know they have you - you are a sucker (I mean customer) of theirs for life. They will love you because you will be lining their pockets with cash!!
@Jocelyn59961 "Let me guess: You vote Republican and believe that global warming is nonexistent."
Wrong on both counts. Try sticking to verifiable facts and not personal attacks if you want to defend medical claims.
"I have known people cured of diabetes"
Then why haven't their case studies been published? Where's the evidence of your claim? Why should I take YOU at your WORD with no evidence whatsoever?
@halleyscomet you have to go through it to understand. Please, do tell your ignorant statement to the thousands who healed their cancer and other illnesses via juicing and these other protocols.
You are so right. I am from Canada, my father has Prostate Cancer and is on the Gerson therapy. Can't lie that it's difficult to follow - gotta change your eating habits drastically, and it's tought for the family as well. MY FATHER'S CANCER IS SLOWLY GOING AWAY!!! His PSA results show as of yesterday at 3.9 (from 5), and from 9 before that. We live in a free democratic country, and what - we can't chose how we want to take care of ourselves? That's disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If skeptical of Gerson, watch the movie. If still skeptical, could do research. All I see here is rude comments and arguments back and forth. Personally I feel sorry for ppl who keep undermining patient's recoveries without actually realizing how much the ideas behind Gerson vs. conventional treatments alone makes sense. It's not just detox, it's nutrition too; certain things work for different health issues. In the US, I don't think enough research is going towards what benefits patients most.
StephenB1928 7 months ago
People don't get cancer because they didnt have enough chemo therapy.
veganstud 1 year ago
People don't get cancer because they didnt have enough chemo therapy.
veganstud 1 year ago
As long as ppl are sick, doctors stay rich. I hope and I believe they will go out of business. That is a "beautiful truth!"
shannonm75 1 year ago
See cancerwinner website Jaquie Davison cured her melanoma using the Gerson cancer therapy 35 years ago and has remained cancer free 35 years and counting! Amazing story.
Learning1000 1 year ago
The doctor with the blue shirt and the one with the white hat on just work for the big dogs to discourage people from natural therapies.
ANGELBLU2042 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
fucking hippies
StabbedLiaison 3 years ago
Why do you have to be a hippy to speak out against our health care? I am a proud conservative but watching my friend die of cancer and learning about chemo (read Questioning Chemotherapy) I am all for a new treatment for him and if Gerson can heal... has healed then I say, let us use it!
syndark6 3 years ago
Because, using terms like 'hippy' is a weapon of propaganda, which is designed specifically to marginalize views to far left and make them appear uncredible. Of course it makes sense to look at using natural therapy in line with our bodies immune system, it is what nature intended, not to inject us with toxic chemicals. I say the toxic chemo philosophy is the one that need to be marginalized.
jtking2504 2 years ago
For a real chemo recovery rate after 5 years, Clinical Oncology Dec 2004 shows it to be about 2%! Many natural cures have over 90% success.
Essential websites include cancertutor. com and healingcancernaturally. com. One protocol covered is Johanna Budwig's flaxoil/cottage cheese, which is very powerful.
My husband is recovering by employing: a natural mainly raw diet, blended vegetable drinks, sprouts, Budwig's oil protocol, cleaning up toxins, getting sunshine, vitamins & supplements, etc.
LJHomesteader 3 years ago
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timhenson08 1 year ago
@LJHomesteader "For a real chemo recovery rate after 5 years ...shows it to be about 2%! "
For which kinds of cancer and what treatment regiments? The broad statement you made is inaccurate and misleading to say the least.
"Many natural cures have over 90% success."
And your source for that claim is...?
timhenson08 1 year ago
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invista360 3 years ago
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invista360 3 years ago 2
what exactly is gerson therapy?
angelbe88 3 years ago
The Gerson Therapy, attacks chronic disease at its causes: a combination of nutritional deficiency and toxicity. By reversing those two conditions, the body gets the tools with which to repair itself.
Hyperalimentation, supplementation, detoxification are the bases. 13 fresh pressed organic juices a day, 3 large organic vegan meals, coffee enemas to detox, vitamin, enzyme and mineral supplements.
The Therapy is detailed in "Healing the Gerson Way," by Charlotte Gerson and Beata Bishop.
HowardStraus 3 years ago
Thanks.
angelbe88 3 years ago
... good answer
iiiidirector 3 years ago
@HowardStraus So, it's quackery without any actual evidence of efficacy.
Good to know.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet If eating healthy is quackery, I look forward to quacking my way through life.
BlueEagle8 1 year ago
@BlueEagle8 That was a cute, if ineffective use of the "Excluded middle" logical fallacy. No one said eating a healthy diet was quackery, only trying to cure cancer through diet alone, but hey, why let little details like what your opponent is actually saying get in the way of your retorts?
halleyscomet 1 year ago 6
@halleyscomet again.. coming from someone who hasn't experienced this first hand.
ray34iyf 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "coming from someone who hasn't experienced this first hand."
Good point. We need to get more people to ditch science based medicine in favor of quackery. I own stock in Health Insurance companies and mortuaries, so increasing the cancer death rate is in my financial best interest. Keep up the good work. the harder you work and the more people you convert, the more money my investments will make.
timhenson08 1 year ago
@timhenson08 again.. hard to take someone serious who hasn't experienced these things first hand. negativity and ignorance will get you no where tim... only the grave.
ray34iyf 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "hard to take someone serious who hasn't experienced these things first hand."
Next time you get sick, trying getting your humors balanced. Black bile is often under represented in the body. You have to try it before you can knock it you know.
And bleeding when you have a cold works wonders. Colds are caused by excess blood you know!
Topical mercury for acne works too. It was all the rage in the Middle Ages, ancient knowledge and all that.
timhenson08 1 year ago
@timhenson08 So you think by lumping Gerson and other natural healing techniques in with a bunch of stuff that doesn't work is a good way to prove your point? WOW. I can do that too... but it would do nothing but promote the type of debate that people like you dumb down the world with. Bravo Tim. Bravo.
ray34iyf 1 year ago
@ray34iyf He kinda has a point. If the best defense you can offer is to ridicule people for not having tried it themselves, then you've already lumped YOURSELF in with all the other quacks.
Let's be blunt. If you look at the actual evidence, which is basically testimonials and nothing more, there's CENTURIES of "evidence" supporting the four humors. By the standards of evidence used by Gerson apologists, all those quack remedies timhenson08 mentioned are BETTER supported than Gerson.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet Ridicule? Come on. I think it's pretty fair to assume someone has no idea what they are talking about when they have no experience with gerson.
I'll be blunt too. Chemotherapy/radiation IS MEANT TO rip apart the patients immune system and destroy both BAD sells and GOOD. Most people are lucky to make it out of these 'treatments' alive.
On the other hand, the natural route of stopping what hurts you and doing what makes you healthy has an incredibly HIGH rate of success.
ray34iyf 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "I think it's pretty fair to assume someone has no idea what they are talking about when they have no experience with gerson."
I think it's pretty fair to assume someone has no idea what they are talking about when they have no experience with bloodletting.
I think it's pretty fair to assume someone has no idea what they are talking about when they have no experience with balancing your humors.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "On the other hand, the natural route of stopping what hurts you and doing what makes you healthy has an incredibly HIGH rate of success."
That's a flat out lie and you can't back up your claim. If I didn't want the less intelligent members of society to get killed off to breed a better humanity, I'd be upset that you're making absurdly inflated claims about the efficacy of quackery. As it is however, you're a very good sercant of the modern eugenics movement. Thank you.
timhenson08 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "On the other hand, the natural route of stopping what hurts you and doing what makes you healthy has an incredibly HIGH rate of success."
That's a flat out lie and you can't back up your claim. If I didn't want the less intelligent members of society to get killed off to breed a better humanity, I'd be upset that you're making absurdly inflated claims about the efficacy of quackery. As it is however, you're a very good servant of the modern eugenics movement. Thank you.
timhenson08 1 year ago
@timhenson08 well looks like we have a lackey for big pharma and the drug companies. honestly, if you don't have enough common sense to see how this works, then this is all wasted on you. when you get cancer, go to your doctors and let them poison you and see how well that works for you. good luck.
ray34iyf 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "well looks like we have a lackey for big pharma and the drug companies"
Riiight. Because only big pharma agents ask for evidence beyond the marketing claims of the quacks pushing Gerson.
Why is it you guys make NO evidence demands of quacks yet refuse to consider clinical trials to be evidence?
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@timhenson08
LOL! ... and back up my claim?? ..are you serious? You are a lunatic. So I'm assuming continuing smoking, letting oneself continued to be exposed to radiation and polution and eating junkfood is a good route to go? Forget eating how every other living creature in the world eats and forget stoppage of doing things that harm us. Apparently that's quackery. Amazing. Do you have any idea about what you are calling 'quackery' by the way? Nah, didn't think so.
ray34iyf 1 year ago
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@ray34iyf "LOL! ... and back up my claim?? ..are you serious? You are a lunatic"
Thank you for admitting it would be lunacy to expect evidence from a quack.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "So you think by lumping Gerson and other natural healing techniques in with a bunch of stuff that doesn't work is a good way to prove your point?"
So where are the double blind, placebo controlled studies demonstrating efficacy for Gerson anyway? What evidence is there aside from testimonials? If all you have are testimonials then balancing of the humors is a better supported treatment methodology.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet LOL! That's it. I'm not going to argue with you or anyone else who is so close minded that it keeps them from seeing other perspectives. It's too bad. I feel sorry for you.
But if you actually open your mind, go see The Gerson Miracle movie.
ray34iyf 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "But if you actually open your mind, go see The Gerson Miracle movie. "
I've seen it. It's a bunch of bullshit consisting of nothing more than unverified marketing claims.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet your close mindedness only serves to harm you. I have been using Gerson-lite (my own little name :) ) to heal from liver damage and other issues from accutane/lexapro use (basically p drugs that nearly killed me) and I am healing brilliantly. My skin has improved dramatically, my circulation throughout my limbs has gone from horrible to the best I've ever had, my energy is very high, I need little sleep, kidneys/liver no longer hurt... you want more proof? Proof is in the results
ray34iyf 1 year ago
@ray34iyf "you want more proof?"
You haven't offered any proof yet, just an unverifiable testimonial from an anonymous source. How do I know your "improvement" is genuine, and not just confirmation bias and the placebo effect? How do I know you aren't a con artist trying to profit from quackery?
You're asking people to use scientifically debunked quack remedy based upon no evidence other than the marketing claims of those who profit from it.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet Let me guess: You vote Republican and believe that global warming is nonexistent.
Charlotte Gerson states it very well in this video.
Personally, I have known people cured of diabetes by the Gerson Institute method, but if you want to believe paying for medicine or needles is best, then they know they have you - you are a sucker (I mean customer) of theirs for life. They will love you because you will be lining their pockets with cash!!
Jocelyn59961 10 months ago
@Jocelyn59961 "Let me guess: You vote Republican and believe that global warming is nonexistent."
Wrong on both counts. Try sticking to verifiable facts and not personal attacks if you want to defend medical claims.
"I have known people cured of diabetes"
Then why haven't their case studies been published? Where's the evidence of your claim? Why should I take YOU at your WORD with no evidence whatsoever?
halleyscomet 8 months ago
@BlueEagle8 Eating healthy isn't quackery, but claiming fruit juice can cure cancer is just plain retarded.
timhenson08 1 year ago
@timhenson08
Well then my dear, if you ever come down with cancer, make sure you don't try fruit juices as a therapy.
Oh. And good luck.
*shakes head*
bigpinkears 1 year ago
@bigpinkears I doubt he will, as trying to cure cancer with fruit juice is frankly, retarded.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet you have to go through it to understand. Please, do tell your ignorant statement to the thousands who healed their cancer and other illnesses via juicing and these other protocols.
ray34iyf 1 year ago
@bigpinkears "make sure you don't try fruit juices as a therapy."
I'll stick to things that actually work, thanks.
timhenson08 1 year ago
I am a med student at Stewart University School of Medicine.
ohmssoo7 4 years ago
DR. MAX GERSON >>> BRILLIANT MAN>>>
naturalproperty 4 years ago 2
You are so right. I am from Canada, my father has Prostate Cancer and is on the Gerson therapy. Can't lie that it's difficult to follow - gotta change your eating habits drastically, and it's tought for the family as well. MY FATHER'S CANCER IS SLOWLY GOING AWAY!!! His PSA results show as of yesterday at 3.9 (from 5), and from 9 before that. We live in a free democratic country, and what - we can't chose how we want to take care of ourselves? That's disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chiquitabar 4 years ago
I am very happy for you, your Father and Family...
naturalproperty 4 years ago
How is your father now?
greggb777 3 years ago