Like or not, the rude audience is one reason why opera singers try their best in Italy. If a singer does not want to be booed, he/she should not sing in Italy. I know Gencer got booed many times, but she did not care. Or I should say that she still wanted to win wars against the hostile audience. In any case, for this Traviata, the tenor had a war against the audience of Rome and he lost it.
L'erreur est humaine,la voix imprévisible,et capricieuse,une telle réaction est inappropriée! Un peu de tolérence ! Mettez vous à sa place! Le stress ,la difficulté de l'air,la concentration,chanter aux côtés de Sutherland... C'est vrai, jamais vous ne défaillez dans votre travail! Vous êtes parfaits!
I think sometimes we like to forget that opera singers are human as well. We like to think that because they can sing amazingly, and have an amazing sound that they can't mess up or have bad nights. I didn't think anything was terribly wrong with his voice, his high notes weren't great, but he still had a nice point. No matter where the performance is though I think the audience should respect that these people do have an incredibly difficult job, and can't always be perfect.
Me parece fatal como reaccionó parte del público, vaya energúmenos. Te esperas a que acabe la función y si no te gusta no aplaudes. Seguramente hoy en día se moriría ese público de escuchar a muchos cantantes de hoy en día. He visto cosas mucho peores.
with music reviews (and other mass media issues) being as they are, the audiences like this are the only hope for some merit in performance(s) to survive
2 years ago i was at perf. of Lucia (over $300 - about 7-8 rows from stage) in Sydney OH, in s-t or s-b duets one could only hear the male voice(s)... will never regret not yelling "WE CAN'T HEAR YOU" - i can die ashamed for not doing it, even if it would certainly be solely to my own embarrassment...
the tenor is unacceptable period.His voice is very small and unattractive, and his pitch is frequently just off enough to be questionable. The audience has every right to expect better. The cynical might wonder if he wasn't chosen because is voice is so small and as such will make it an easier night for M. Sutherland. In addition, It's impossible not notice that the great M. Sutherland is far from being at her best. ...a bad night all around.
I think its the conductors fault. Sure the tenor isn't the best but at least he's on pitch but the conductor is terrible. He's rushing the orchestra in certain parts and creating a weird inconsistent sound. And as a singer myself, you guys with your rude comments have no idea what your talking about. So keep it to yourselves.
So many experts have left their comments. You area ll a bunch of morons, especially bellebeast! Have you never flawed in your life. To me, you are a constant complainer who has nothing better to do with their time. You're sad. Get a life and stop spending money travelling around the world to see the same opera in a different country. Now that's worth booing!
@mikey1011mikey O.O maybe bellebeast is just a jealous person not having his/her (the name maybe a trap xD) record and fame unnoticed! >:D let's just let it be, he/she just wants attention. <_<
I'm not a defendant of booing but opera is very expensive and singers should be excelent. Lamberto was singing bad, maybe tired or sick, but you can hear easily that is having problems in the high notes and probably it was a mistake to let him go on stage that night. If I had to pay more than a 100 to hear that, I would be angry.
@bellebeast I speak in defence of booing. I go to the opera often in all the big opera houses in the world. I pay for expensive seats costing lots of money to hear top singers and expect the highest standard. If they can't sing to that standard then I boo. They have no right to sing badly. In this case both the tenor and Sutherland were very bad. He couldn't sing high notes and she had a very bad wobble. The audience has every right to demand what they pay for. I also boo bad productions.
@Ariadne7710 You're on your right. At the end opera belongs to the audience and there are a lot magnificent singers waiting for a chance to go on stage.
Not only must you be an AMAZINGsinger...but you have to keep up with Dame Joan~! That audience was just mean, I've heard much worse with a better response.
Pauvre ténor pour rien au monde je n'aurais voulu être à sa place...Honte surtout à celui qui l'a engagé et qui devait certainement avoir du caca dans les oreilles ou être très sadique, voir peut être les deux..Quant au public italien ,le jour où ils seront VRAIMENT connaisseur peut-être que l'art lyrique se portera mieux
It's the same way with professional sports. People on tv criticize the players. I would to see the critics get up and try to do what they people out there are doing. Being a starting opera singer, it's hard and terrifying beginning on stage. I'd like to see that audience try that. He has technical issues that can easily be fixed. And he's singing with Dame Joan, for heaven's sake. I'd be nervous as hell.
I'm italian and I hate such stupid people that interrupted a performance in this way... please, don't call us all the same as berlusconi, not all the italian are so stupid and rud.
Italianos desgenerados, ninuna de esas personas podrían cantar el "Alfredo" y se atreven a insultar a los artistas. Que desgraciados. Igualitos a Berluschoni. O sea que es presidentito les calzó justo!
Someone must inform these moral Italians of the alternativity of leaving a theatre in case you do not like the performance.An opera is not a heavy metal concert where you can act like a hooligan.Probably this is what caused the tenor such increasing unstability.Phony Italians..not all of them,of course
Je n aime pas les gens qui hue les artistes , c'est un manque totale de respect surtout une chanteuse comme sutherland qui est grandiose . Pour avoir un tel niveau il faut un tel depassement de sois , de travail technique, psychologique . On ne ce rend pas compte du nombre d'heure de travail d'effort qu'il faut pour avoir ne serais-ce que un niveau c'est un tel depassement de sois que l'on dois proviquer , le chant le s'improvise pas ! Ce n'est pas que un don mais des heures et des heures de t
stupid audience, if i do not like a singer i do not applaud, if they are so bad that i can not hear it anymore (this is not the case by the way) i try to leave the performance after the first act... ma questo? veramente hanno perso la testa... stupida gente che non sa nulla e pensa che per urlare due o tre stupidacine, un miracolo rende loro insegnanti di canto... what a shame
"Factions" spring up (or are encouraged by people who don't want an intelligent public) in all kinds of areas. Sports and politics are the most fertile fields for this kind of senseless, potentially destructive behavior/habit/outlook. During the long, messy decline of the Roman Empire the population segregated themselves into the "blues and the greens" based on sports, especially chariot racing. This spilled over into politics. It's common... and can lead to war.
Furlan's voice was never very attractive, and he struggled vocally at times, as evidenced by this clip. He found it difficult to cover and control his tone, and often ended up shouting rather than phrasing. As much as I love Joan, I have to question her judgement in letting him sing with her. In Australia, she also had to suffer the barking and cracking of Anson Austin, but she remained very loyal to him as well.
ero li quella sera disastrosa, doveva essere un evento era presente anche l ambasciatore australiano, fu un disastro il direttore marito della soprano diresse in modo pessimo ed il tenore forse non sentendo la musica sempre in pianissimo sbaglio, la sig,ra sutherland abbandono la recita offesa facendo un gesto irruguardoso verso il pubblico, l opera prossegui con un soprano diverso, non ricordo il nome, in ogni caso la serata fini male i fischi proseguirono verso tenore e direttore
@trumansf Some Italians, more in Milano, buy cheap tickets as a license to be rude to people. The most are not like that, but they permit the bad behavior. This is not helpful. Poor Italy.
The audience did the right thing, because there were already such a reputation around the cult of Sutherland, especially DECCA letting her recording everything. Sutherland was never was capable of enter a drama, and her diction was awful – on the same time her voice had a certain narrow quality, à la Netrebko not et all suited to Violetta. Terrible. Furlan and Bonynge was not much better.
You do not know what the f- you're talking about. They are not booing her since there is not one single flaw in her singing here. They are booing the tenor, and they are vile pigs for doing so. So what: they came to the opera to protest against the fascism of Decca and reign of La Stupenda? So they decided to collectively act like animals? lol.
Sutherland is the greatest soprano ever lived, and she owned Verdi top to bottom. The tenor here was not great but does he deserve this? No.
If you dislike a singer, withhold applause; that puts your message across perfectly well. No matter what the tradition or custom or country, booing is boorish. Period.
The Met is a 2nd class opera house with a dumb audience. And in this case, the aucience paid and got to see a shitty performance. They did not know before that the singers are going to be ridiculous, and it is their right to boo.
Next time I buy an expensive ticket and the singers sound like shit, I will boo again. If they are great, then they will get bravos. If you don't want the audience to react, you also have to ban bravos.
El público norteamericano tan ruidoso como de costumbre. Qué vergüenza más absoluta me hacen sentir el público del MET. ¡¡¡A gritar al beisbol, señores!!!..
@scarlatti8 Ooooh!!! Mea culpa, desde luego. Gran error. Gracias por hacérmelo ver. Afortunadamente me queda mucho por aprender. Disculpa mi atrevimiento pos-adolescente.
I would have demanded my money back. No one in that audience paid top dollar to hear cracking hack. It's really too bad this doesn't happen more often; perhaps we would have some decent singers still around today. Audiences don't demand anymore than they get.
So... If I spend money to hear an opera I want a perfect performance... and this execution is horrible. When a performer is onstage must agree with the rules of the stage: there are claps and booos. Ok, mélomanes (in particular italians) are very cruel sometimes... but I understand them perfectly: it's our music, our tradition, our culture... we love it and we want perfection.
This is the absolute horror. The kind of thing that make people deadly afraid of performing. If I was there, I hope I would have summoned the courage to shout "CONTINUE THIS IS GREAT !" above the booing crowd, just so they don't lose all faith in themselves.
As a professional singer, I have left theaters in the middle of a scene to protest my dislike for lack of talent on the stage. Ever at THE MET...
This cast did nothing I can hear to warrant such treatment. A bit of off timing perhaps... So what if a voice cracks - IT's LIVE! It Happens! If someone wants a perfect performance - BUY a recording and stay home.
As to Booing... I have heard performances which deserved it and GOT IT! If you are sick - CANCEL.
@coryisawake Yes you do have a point. I've been to many concerts and I too have seen the entire gamut of quality. Your observation is accurate. American audiences are just the opposite it seems -- way too polite, even for a subpar musical performance. In principle regarding audience etiquette, the Traviata crowd should have expressed their disapproval AT THE END, not during the performance. What's laughable is they interrupt the show and you hear "Returno!!!" (come back) Hahahah.
Even someone like the majestic Corelli talks about how nervous he was to sing with Nielsson. Imagine the sheer dread of knowing you're about to sing an "Alfredo" with the soprano many have called the greatest technician of the century. It's always the losers, who NEVER DID ANYTHING BUT BECOME SPECTATORS IN LIFE, who create this kind of debacle. No one "in the arena" could ever react in this way.
@ian1856 you fail to understand that the spectators who do nothing are the ones who have the money and can afford tickets for opera houses to keep running. and the stage artists are the ones who ought to please the spectators, by means of bowing to their audience's taste - not to the artists' own taste. otherwise, artists wouldn't need an audience at all. I would have probably not joined the booing, but this guy was asking for it because he was absolutely trying show-off and failing badly.
@LordMgls My career began at Lincoln Ctr in '71; 40 yrs later in Europe, it's still going. I mention that, because I think it qualifies me to understand a tiny bit about audiences and performers. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I find your arguments specious and won't trouble myself further with them...in the same way I keep walking when I hear stupid remarks made about colleagues' performances by people who haven't the vaguest clue as to what the performances entail.
@ian1856 I always love the way you artists behave when I use that argument. the answer has always got something to do with the audience's "stupid remarks" or unimaginative notion of art. please let me insist and ask you another question: would you prefer to sing in an empty opera house rather than accepting and adapting yourself to your audience's taste, no matter who is wrong? there's good art and bad art; the audience should be provided with the good one. no place for mediocrity.
I agree Furlan is not great. He sounds very strained, sings sharp and is behind the music a lot of the time. But I think it is extremely disrespectful to boo anybody during a performance, it is not only rude but also humiliating for the person whom the boos are directed at. I would like to see the audience doing this better, that would be a riot, that would teach them to not be so rude, hypocritical and snobic.
This tenor seems to have had a bad night. His voice cracked and he was out of tune and off tempo in this short duett. But the public is kind of ridiculous.
He probably got quite agitated and intimidated after hearing the first sounds of disapproval and discontent from the vile pigs. That can affect someone's singing.
The tenor is pretty bad, but the audience should have waited until the end of the duet to boo him. The Italian opera audiences can be very cruel sometimes.
so according to WorldCup Seoul it is shocking for a singer to earn 30 000 at the MET? My word... singers have to work very hard to get to the MET, train strenious hours year in and out, put up with so much stress, giving up so much, endure so much...please let singers at the MET earn more! Soccer players, football stars earn millions oh but thats ok isn't it. If its culture and education no one wants to pay these days...what a sad world we live in
i think more americans should do this. If people only knew the shocking amount of money these singers make, they might be more inclined to express their disapproval openly. Opera lead singers make about $30,000 a performance at the Met, or more.
So they should be punished because of the rates in the biz? lol. There is a polite way to show your disapproval and disappointment. Trust me: dead silence after an aria is far more heartbreaking and effective than booing like pigs.
Sutherland actually sound ok here (or at least, the way she normally sounded) but the tenor is indeed struggling. Of course, once the audience gets started, there is no calming them down again. Very unfortunate
I remember reading about this incident in JS's autobiography but hearing it live it sounds like a very different event. The tenor is in deep trouble long before he gets to the " slight crack " that JS describes, and the unrest is already well on its way to erupting. Her account makes it seem like all was well except for one note. It's a more charitable version of events but unfortunately not accurate.
I quite like this about the Italians. They invented opera and it is still important to them that it is done well. All classes of Italians go to the opera and it is expensive, they don't pay a fortune to listen to lazy, wealthy superstars fart about on stage. They are the same with opera as with football! Forza Italia!
@tommkappa Sì, purtroppo è vero. L'Italia è ridotta a un postribolo, AIIUTOOOO PER LA NOsTRA CULTURA! Con i miei figli (32 e 29 anni) ho cercato di fare un'opera di conoscenza del bello...e ci sono riuscita, credo, anche se i miei mezzi economici non sono eccezionali....
You can't really compare America to Italy in Opera audiences. The society is so different, they've more keen ears I would say, and anything other than perfection is not acceptable in most opera performances over there. You can't say they're uncivilized people though, this is normal for them, they probably look at American's yelling at referees and think "dear god how primitive," whereas we see this as acceptable behavior.
Or maybe American opera goer is a bit more appreciative and civilized.... Booing an opera performer for missing three notes is abhorrent behavior. Italians should save that sort of attitude toward their greedy and lazy politicians, not true musicians.
Even teenagers know that artists performing live are not perfect and do not resort to booing as it is done way to often in opera. Now I really understand why opera (to shock of many people) attendance is at an all time low in Italy. Opera is more appreciated in America and other nations more than in Italy and I think that is so incredibly tragic.
Furlan was singing just fine in this duet, so I don't understand why the boos started again. Was the audience just looking to stir trouble for a mistake that happened way in the first act?? That, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of immaturity personified.
It's unfortunate audiences don't do this more often in opera, perhaps we'd be blessed with better singers today. No better way to burst a singer or conductor's ego.
People, they are humans! I mean, do we do everything perfect? If you want to listen to perfection get a cd! I mean, no one will boo at a marathon runner if he twists an ankle during the marathon!!!
The tenor produced some pretty sounds, but overall he totally missed the mark. Sutherland was ok here, remember she is far past prime. It's poor form to boo during performance in my opinion but it's justified to demand a refund afterward. I've been to live performances with worse tenors than this one. People clapped. I'd like to think that Americans are more civilized. But it's more likely because nowadays nobody knows good singing from bad. The Italians were rude but they knew great singing!
@GermanOperaSinger Interesting!! We Americans don't know enough to "BOOO". Nice analysis and somewhat true. I'm now living in a foreign country and what they consider "good" music is so sad. They (not everyone, obviously) just don't know the difference between good and bad, so they think some of the most awful performances are good. This may make me seem like a shob, but it is the truth!
I wouldn´t interrupt their singing like that. People in Italy, in theaters behave so VULGAR.
The tenor was simply AWFUL. I might boo him at his curtain call but not where they did. Typical shit from Italian theaters. That people are so VULGAR!
I don't understand... it sounds like immature teenagers...
an interesting mention is; they used do this quite frequently back in the 1800s :P But of course ... not from the same intentions.. this sounds planned... organized by children that was part of an excursion... I hope...
@KarlAmade In Italy... beside mafiosi, they´re inmature teenagers. And by the way, the tenor was AWFUL. But I simply wouldn´t applaud at the end... or boo him at his curtain call... hihihi!
idiotic mass of filth. I hate it when italians think they have the best music and opera, their sensational rubbish doesn't compare to the great german composers.
@sstuddert no, thank you, specially since there is were you went to see La Stupida sing, and since you lived there you onlye had to take a couple of steps to do so.
@NEBESHIKU "if that is the best comeback you have..." Christ, what are you, 12?
You have already come out of this looking like a damn idiot because you think "german composers are shit, italian composers are sublime." Yeah, that's why the most intelligent, progressive and influencial composers in history were all Germans (Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Shoenberg) and none of them were italian.
@sstuddert Thanks for the laugh, but filth like you gets old real fast! How easy it was for me to make you do what i wanted! Please go eat shit and die (if you want to eat shit you just have t put your hand inside your mouth). I'm not wasting my tima anymore with you, get back to meonly to let me know that ou are dead, otherwise go fuck your mother! That is the reason you think german composer are so great... inbred scum like you think that!
Like Maria Callas said "If people don't like me, they shouldn't come to see me". I really don't understand why someone would go to a performance only to boo at the artists... (Granted, I know some were paid to do so...). And I bet they think they are so high-class and civilized, meanwhile they behave like hooligans at a football match
@AOG93 People go a performance expecting high quality singing, and when they don't get it, they boo. This tenor was an obscure name so likely no one had ever heard of him. Sutherland had a good reputation but is way past prime here.
I remember a review of this performance. The audience had expected the decline of Sutherland, but she was much better than expected. As the result, the audience became more hostile toward the tenor because, to them, he was destroying the performance. The Italian opera audience can be very hostile, but that is why singers try their best. If singer
Like or not, the rude audience is one reason why opera singers try their best in Italy. If a singer does not want to be booed, he/she should not sing in Italy. I know Gencer got booed many times, but she did not care. Or I should say that she still wanted to win wars against the hostile audience. In any case, for this Traviata, the tenor had a war against the audience of Rome and he lost it.
kh3205 1 week ago
L'erreur est humaine,la voix imprévisible,et capricieuse,une telle réaction est inappropriée! Un peu de tolérence ! Mettez vous à sa place! Le stress ,la difficulté de l'air,la concentration,chanter aux côtés de Sutherland... C'est vrai, jamais vous ne défaillez dans votre travail! Vous êtes parfaits!
claireantoine 1 week ago
The italian people are wonderful ! They know what music is ! BRAVO !!!!
GA4N 1 week ago
I think sometimes we like to forget that opera singers are human as well. We like to think that because they can sing amazingly, and have an amazing sound that they can't mess up or have bad nights. I didn't think anything was terribly wrong with his voice, his high notes weren't great, but he still had a nice point. No matter where the performance is though I think the audience should respect that these people do have an incredibly difficult job, and can't always be perfect.
dht23 2 weeks ago 2
Me parece fatal como reaccionó parte del público, vaya energúmenos. Te esperas a que acabe la función y si no te gusta no aplaudes. Seguramente hoy en día se moriría ese público de escuchar a muchos cantantes de hoy en día. He visto cosas mucho peores.
alfonsorama1 2 weeks ago
How rude of the audience! They should have been far more respectful to Sutherland, even if they were disappointed by the tenor.
cdoggiefizzle 2 weeks ago
with music reviews (and other mass media issues) being as they are, the audiences like this are the only hope for some merit in performance(s) to survive
2 years ago i was at perf. of Lucia (over $300 - about 7-8 rows from stage) in Sydney OH, in s-t or s-b duets one could only hear the male voice(s)... will never regret not yelling "WE CAN'T HEAR YOU" - i can die ashamed for not doing it, even if it would certainly be solely to my own embarrassment...
reviews were more then just ravishing...
branko1b 3 weeks ago
the tenor is unacceptable period.His voice is very small and unattractive, and his pitch is frequently just off enough to be questionable. The audience has every right to expect better. The cynical might wonder if he wasn't chosen because is voice is so small and as such will make it an easier night for M. Sutherland. In addition, It's impossible not notice that the great M. Sutherland is far from being at her best. ...a bad night all around.
photo161 3 weeks ago
=_= His voice is great... the conductor is terrible. :) I think he's perfectly fine.
makihara30chise 3 weeks ago
I think its the conductors fault. Sure the tenor isn't the best but at least he's on pitch but the conductor is terrible. He's rushing the orchestra in certain parts and creating a weird inconsistent sound. And as a singer myself, you guys with your rude comments have no idea what your talking about. So keep it to yourselves.
duffman7793 1 month ago
@duffman7793 :D I AGREE WITH YOU PAL!! ^_^
makihara30chise 3 weeks ago
So many experts have left their comments. You area ll a bunch of morons, especially bellebeast! Have you never flawed in your life. To me, you are a constant complainer who has nothing better to do with their time. You're sad. Get a life and stop spending money travelling around the world to see the same opera in a different country. Now that's worth booing!
mikey1011mikey 1 month ago
@mikey1011mikey O.O maybe bellebeast is just a jealous person not having his/her (the name maybe a trap xD) record and fame unnoticed! >:D let's just let it be, he/she just wants attention. <_<
makihara30chise 3 weeks ago
Todos somos humanos y podemos equivocarnos. Solo los ignorantes hacen boos a las personas que se equivocan en vez de alentarlas a que lo hagan mejor.
cesar45419 1 month ago
Cualquiera puede tener una mala actuación, incluso los grandes.
Me gustaría ver a alguien del publico subir y hacerlo mejor.
TheMusicinmyheart7 1 month ago
La responsabilidad no recae en Sutherland.
mariop1960 1 month ago
I'm not a defendant of booing but opera is very expensive and singers should be excelent. Lamberto was singing bad, maybe tired or sick, but you can hear easily that is having problems in the high notes and probably it was a mistake to let him go on stage that night. If I had to pay more than a 100 to hear that, I would be angry.
bellebeast 1 month ago
@bellebeast I speak in defence of booing. I go to the opera often in all the big opera houses in the world. I pay for expensive seats costing lots of money to hear top singers and expect the highest standard. If they can't sing to that standard then I boo. They have no right to sing badly. In this case both the tenor and Sutherland were very bad. He couldn't sing high notes and she had a very bad wobble. The audience has every right to demand what they pay for. I also boo bad productions.
Ariadne7710 1 month ago
@Ariadne7710 You're on your right. At the end opera belongs to the audience and there are a lot magnificent singers waiting for a chance to go on stage.
bellebeast 1 month ago
Ragazzi miei, oggi sarebbe un vero lusso ascoltare una violetta così ! Furlan imbarazzante, ma forse stava male ! Tanto male !
circearte 1 month ago
Yay. I've read about this incident. It's interesting to actually hear it! Thanks.
SinoSene 1 month ago
Not only must you be an AMAZINGsinger...but you have to keep up with Dame Joan~! That audience was just mean, I've heard much worse with a better response.
magicmonkichi 1 month ago
People who boo a performer should be slung out and not allowed in again.....they are just ignorant yobs.
hugoforth 1 month ago
The audience is uncivilized. Not all the Italians are like berlusconi, that's a luck.
ThePlutino 1 month ago
I have heard Dame Joan sing it better, too. Much as I love her, how sure are we it was directed only against the tenor?
oldoperafan 1 month ago
Pauvre ténor pour rien au monde je n'aurais voulu être à sa place...Honte surtout à celui qui l'a engagé et qui devait certainement avoir du caca dans les oreilles ou être très sadique, voir peut être les deux..Quant au public italien ,le jour où ils seront VRAIMENT connaisseur peut-être que l'art lyrique se portera mieux
MrGanesh95 1 month ago
It's the same way with professional sports. People on tv criticize the players. I would to see the critics get up and try to do what they people out there are doing. Being a starting opera singer, it's hard and terrifying beginning on stage. I'd like to see that audience try that. He has technical issues that can easily be fixed. And he's singing with Dame Joan, for heaven's sake. I'd be nervous as hell.
KaleidoscopeAct 1 month ago
non capisco...a me sembrava pressochè perfetta...
buffetosca 1 month ago
@buffetosca bè sì effettivamente era perfetta..... per essere fischiata!!! hahaha
RossiAndrea25 1 month ago
@RossiAndrea25
ahahahah
buffetosca 1 month ago
the pressure to be an Opera singer must be unbelievable.
babystinky 1 month ago
I'm italian and I hate such stupid people that interrupted a performance in this way... please, don't call us all the same as berlusconi, not all the italian are so stupid and rud.
Ale92Bass 2 months ago 4
Italianos desgenerados, ninuna de esas personas podrían cantar el "Alfredo" y se atreven a insultar a los artistas. Que desgraciados. Igualitos a Berluschoni. O sea que es presidentito les calzó justo!
PapagenoHannover 2 months ago
does this kind of behavior still happen in Italy nowadays?
LordMgls 2 months ago
@LordMgls Sometimes, yes. It happened to Roberto Alagna in Aida a few years back. You can find the video here on youtube.
It's disgraceful.
qhsperson 2 months ago
oh !
The whole thing is filthy !
Cheers
from,
del-boy
MealyMouthedLeach 3 months ago
Someone must inform these moral Italians of the alternativity of leaving a theatre in case you do not like the performance.An opera is not a heavy metal concert where you can act like a hooligan.Probably this is what caused the tenor such increasing unstability.Phony Italians..not all of them,of course
vernadakieleni 3 months ago
Sweaty Italians... end of.
calaftheeast 3 months ago
Le ténor n'est pas très professionnel,mais la battue est un peu systématique.Le désastre était évitable:D'abord,ne pas l'engager...
abracadabranque 3 months ago
lei si poteva ascoltare tutto sommato...il vero problema era lui!!!!
romygil 3 months ago
Travail mais cela n est que mon avis !
soprano543 3 months ago
Je n aime pas les gens qui hue les artistes , c'est un manque totale de respect surtout une chanteuse comme sutherland qui est grandiose . Pour avoir un tel niveau il faut un tel depassement de sois , de travail technique, psychologique . On ne ce rend pas compte du nombre d'heure de travail d'effort qu'il faut pour avoir ne serais-ce que un niveau c'est un tel depassement de sois que l'on dois proviquer , le chant le s'improvise pas ! Ce n'est pas que un don mais des heures et des heures de t
soprano543 3 months ago
stupid audience, if i do not like a singer i do not applaud, if they are so bad that i can not hear it anymore (this is not the case by the way) i try to leave the performance after the first act... ma questo? veramente hanno perso la testa... stupida gente che non sa nulla e pensa che per urlare due o tre stupidacine, un miracolo rende loro insegnanti di canto... what a shame
arturotenor76 3 months ago
tough crowd
sean21408 4 months ago
That is just bad manners. For shame.
ariarenata226 4 months ago
sigers get pay more then 30000 so sing at the met its more like 300,000 per performents
MAPIAKALLAS 4 months ago
"Factions" spring up (or are encouraged by people who don't want an intelligent public) in all kinds of areas. Sports and politics are the most fertile fields for this kind of senseless, potentially destructive behavior/habit/outlook. During the long, messy decline of the Roman Empire the population segregated themselves into the "blues and the greens" based on sports, especially chariot racing. This spilled over into politics. It's common... and can lead to war.
MrHbc3 4 months ago
THAT NICE VOICE SHE USED WHEN SPEAKING, SHOULD ALSO HAVE USED TO SING BETTER AND PRONOUNCE BETTER...SHE HAD A VERY BAD TECHNIQHE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
simisimi9 5 months ago
how so very beautiful Sutherland's voice sounds here, and how nuanced he phrasing. . ...how piggish the audience!!!
sprinter848 5 months ago
People is complaining about the conductor and the tenor.
MrLupo23 5 months ago
hahahhahahahahaha so hilarious!!
aircat29 5 months ago
i´m agree with savatopluk.
antocct 5 months ago
LOL, correct me if i'm wrong, but did i hear "buffoni" ???
SweetFiness 5 months ago
Furlan's voice was never very attractive, and he struggled vocally at times, as evidenced by this clip. He found it difficult to cover and control his tone, and often ended up shouting rather than phrasing. As much as I love Joan, I have to question her judgement in letting him sing with her. In Australia, she also had to suffer the barking and cracking of Anson Austin, but she remained very loyal to him as well.
vocalissimo1 5 months ago
Funny :-)
maestronew18 6 months ago
ero li quella sera disastrosa, doveva essere un evento era presente anche l ambasciatore australiano, fu un disastro il direttore marito della soprano diresse in modo pessimo ed il tenore forse non sentendo la musica sempre in pianissimo sbaglio, la sig,ra sutherland abbandono la recita offesa facendo un gesto irruguardoso verso il pubblico, l opera prossegui con un soprano diverso, non ricordo il nome, in ogni caso la serata fini male i fischi proseguirono verso tenore e direttore
cogitoergoboh 6 months ago
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numestube 6 months ago
People like to think they know about music by booing and criticizing. If they know about music, they should show it by making it.
ejrouge 6 months ago 6
@ejrouge They are, by paying for the tickets and coming to the shows. Without audience there will be no music
trumansf 5 months ago
@trumansf Some Italians, more in Milano, buy cheap tickets as a license to be rude to people. The most are not like that, but they permit the bad behavior. This is not helpful. Poor Italy.
MrHbc3 5 months ago
@MrHbc3 I agree!
Tenorliebe 4 months ago
Its interesting that the ones booing are mostly not musicians, and could not equal the best singers worse performance...
TrevorDaniels 6 months ago 2
The audience did the right thing, because there were already such a reputation around the cult of Sutherland, especially DECCA letting her recording everything. Sutherland was never was capable of enter a drama, and her diction was awful – on the same time her voice had a certain narrow quality, à la Netrebko not et all suited to Violetta. Terrible. Furlan and Bonynge was not much better.
XP11XP 6 months ago
@XP11XP
You do not know what the f- you're talking about. They are not booing her since there is not one single flaw in her singing here. They are booing the tenor, and they are vile pigs for doing so. So what: they came to the opera to protest against the fascism of Decca and reign of La Stupenda? So they decided to collectively act like animals? lol.
Sutherland is the greatest soprano ever lived, and she owned Verdi top to bottom. The tenor here was not great but does he deserve this? No.
calaftheeast 3 months ago
This is a disaster? Have you people watched x factor? o.O
xoxpenguinxox 6 months ago
tenore di merda
signorinissimo 6 months ago
I love the Italian crowd!!
Simdaperce 6 months ago
If you dislike a singer, withhold applause; that puts your message across perfectly well. No matter what the tradition or custom or country, booing is boorish. Period.
arnoldogiordani 6 months ago 21
The Met is a 2nd class opera house with a dumb audience. And in this case, the aucience paid and got to see a shitty performance. They did not know before that the singers are going to be ridiculous, and it is their right to boo.
Next time I buy an expensive ticket and the singers sound like shit, I will boo again. If they are great, then they will get bravos. If you don't want the audience to react, you also have to ban bravos.
AfroPoli 7 months ago 3
@AfroPoli absolutely the MET audience is mostly made up by cretins needing hearing aids.
signorinissimo 6 months ago
@AfroPoli Met, 2nd class opera house????.... and you´re a 4th class citizen behaving like a Gorilla. Go to the jungle!!!
MrSebtian 6 months ago
El público norteamericano tan ruidoso como de costumbre. Qué vergüenza más absoluta me hacen sentir el público del MET. ¡¡¡A gritar al beisbol, señores!!!..
scarlatti8 7 months ago
@scarlatti8 el público es italiano, si no lo de "bufonni" pierde un poco el sentido en norteamérica...
marlborought 7 months ago
@scarlatti8 Obviamente no conoces al público americano. Esto es en Italia!!!
MrSebtian 6 months ago
@scarlatti8 Ooooh!!! Mea culpa, desde luego. Gran error. Gracias por hacérmelo ver. Afortunadamente me queda mucho por aprender. Disculpa mi atrevimiento pos-adolescente.
scarlatti8 6 months ago
I would have demanded my money back. No one in that audience paid top dollar to hear cracking hack. It's really too bad this doesn't happen more often; perhaps we would have some decent singers still around today. Audiences don't demand anymore than they get.
VinylToVideo 7 months ago
So... If I spend money to hear an opera I want a perfect performance... and this execution is horrible. When a performer is onstage must agree with the rules of the stage: there are claps and booos. Ok, mélomanes (in particular italians) are very cruel sometimes... but I understand them perfectly: it's our music, our tradition, our culture... we love it and we want perfection.
cris88acquario 7 months ago
Shame to the audience
papataar 7 months ago
That's disgusting, rude behaviour. I'm sorry but this is why people hate opera (and I'm an opera singer!)
Weillfanatic 7 months ago 2
This is the absolute horror. The kind of thing that make people deadly afraid of performing. If I was there, I hope I would have summoned the courage to shout "CONTINUE THIS IS GREAT !" above the booing crowd, just so they don't lose all faith in themselves.
elevencyan 8 months ago 2
@elevencyan This is a 1983 recording. For sure Joan Sutherland didn't lose the faith in herself. She died being La Stupenda!
ejrouge 6 months ago
As a professional singer, I have left theaters in the middle of a scene to protest my dislike for lack of talent on the stage. Ever at THE MET...
This cast did nothing I can hear to warrant such treatment. A bit of off timing perhaps... So what if a voice cracks - IT's LIVE! It Happens! If someone wants a perfect performance - BUY a recording and stay home.
As to Booing... I have heard performances which deserved it and GOT IT! If you are sick - CANCEL.
SingcerelyStudios 8 months ago 3
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Fucking typical asshole Italians - rude, loud and obnoxious.
jcris785 8 months ago 5
@jcris785
I wish you a pylonidal cist from Italy (where belcanto is a religion) Go back to your Michael Bolton arias!
banmadabon 7 months ago 2
@jcris785 congratulation, that fine sentence is worthy of being repeated during a tea party.
numestube 6 months ago
@jcris785 At least though they show that they are paying some attention to what they're seeing, however rude they may be.
Conversely, MET audiences just accept anything they're served as being high quality and will give a standing ovation to any subpar performance.
At least before singers had a fear of disappointing audiences and for that reason, if not better ones, there were higher standards for the stage.
coryisawake 6 months ago
@coryisawake Yes you do have a point. I've been to many concerts and I too have seen the entire gamut of quality. Your observation is accurate. American audiences are just the opposite it seems -- way too polite, even for a subpar musical performance. In principle regarding audience etiquette, the Traviata crowd should have expressed their disapproval AT THE END, not during the performance. What's laughable is they interrupt the show and you hear "Returno!!!" (come back) Hahahah.
jcris785 6 months ago
Even someone like the majestic Corelli talks about how nervous he was to sing with Nielsson. Imagine the sheer dread of knowing you're about to sing an "Alfredo" with the soprano many have called the greatest technician of the century. It's always the losers, who NEVER DID ANYTHING BUT BECOME SPECTATORS IN LIFE, who create this kind of debacle. No one "in the arena" could ever react in this way.
ian1856 8 months ago 9
@ian1856 you fail to understand that the spectators who do nothing are the ones who have the money and can afford tickets for opera houses to keep running. and the stage artists are the ones who ought to please the spectators, by means of bowing to their audience's taste - not to the artists' own taste. otherwise, artists wouldn't need an audience at all. I would have probably not joined the booing, but this guy was asking for it because he was absolutely trying show-off and failing badly.
LordMgls 2 months ago
@LordMgls My career began at Lincoln Ctr in '71; 40 yrs later in Europe, it's still going. I mention that, because I think it qualifies me to understand a tiny bit about audiences and performers. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I find your arguments specious and won't trouble myself further with them...in the same way I keep walking when I hear stupid remarks made about colleagues' performances by people who haven't the vaguest clue as to what the performances entail.
ian1856 2 months ago 2
@ian1856 I always love the way you artists behave when I use that argument. the answer has always got something to do with the audience's "stupid remarks" or unimaginative notion of art. please let me insist and ask you another question: would you prefer to sing in an empty opera house rather than accepting and adapting yourself to your audience's taste, no matter who is wrong? there's good art and bad art; the audience should be provided with the good one. no place for mediocrity.
LordMgls 2 months ago 2
rude audience. That tenor is a very good friend of mine and in his 70s now CAN STILL SING.
hammondmania 8 months ago 3
Not one of that audience could have done better - IDIOTS!!!!
multimill 8 months ago 2
I agree Furlan is not great. He sounds very strained, sings sharp and is behind the music a lot of the time. But I think it is extremely disrespectful to boo anybody during a performance, it is not only rude but also humiliating for the person whom the boos are directed at. I would like to see the audience doing this better, that would be a riot, that would teach them to not be so rude, hypocritical and snobic.
Beth29252 8 months ago
This tenor seems to have had a bad night. His voice cracked and he was out of tune and off tempo in this short duett. But the public is kind of ridiculous.
Triosfrios 8 months ago
@Triosfrios
He probably got quite agitated and intimidated after hearing the first sounds of disapproval and discontent from the vile pigs. That can affect someone's singing.
calaftheeast 3 months ago
I have never heard such a disgusting display of theatre bullying in all my days. They should be ashamed of themselves!!!
mairwyn 9 months ago 4
coglioni genovesi. i problemi possono capitare a tutti. animali
iubanne 9 months ago 3
Nothing's perfect!
arthur17252859 9 months ago
This would not have been booed at the Met because the audiance their is brain dead. This is why La Stupida did sing in Italy often.
NEBESHIKU 9 months ago
The tenor is pretty bad, but the audience should have waited until the end of the duet to boo him. The Italian opera audiences can be very cruel sometimes.
jmuslvr 9 months ago
the conductor is terrible.
wattever333 9 months ago
die Leute die pfeiffen, sollen erst mal selber singen!
GERMANYFrankie 9 months ago
I think much of this was precipitated by the conductor who rushed ahead of both singers on various occasions.
TenorTalk 10 months ago
so according to WorldCup Seoul it is shocking for a singer to earn 30 000 at the MET? My word... singers have to work very hard to get to the MET, train strenious hours year in and out, put up with so much stress, giving up so much, endure so much...please let singers at the MET earn more! Soccer players, football stars earn millions oh but thats ok isn't it. If its culture and education no one wants to pay these days...what a sad world we live in
mandreika1 10 months ago 24
i think more americans should do this. If people only knew the shocking amount of money these singers make, they might be more inclined to express their disapproval openly. Opera lead singers make about $30,000 a performance at the Met, or more.
WorldCupSeoul 11 months ago
@WorldCupSeoul
So they should be punished because of the rates in the biz? lol. There is a polite way to show your disapproval and disappointment. Trust me: dead silence after an aria is far more heartbreaking and effective than booing like pigs.
calaftheeast 3 months ago
Sutherland actually sound ok here (or at least, the way she normally sounded) but the tenor is indeed struggling. Of course, once the audience gets started, there is no calming them down again. Very unfortunate
Prickler32 11 months ago
I remember reading about this incident in JS's autobiography but hearing it live it sounds like a very different event. The tenor is in deep trouble long before he gets to the " slight crack " that JS describes, and the unrest is already well on its way to erupting. Her account makes it seem like all was well except for one note. It's a more charitable version of events but unfortunately not accurate.
fullbuck50 11 months ago
the tenor IS pretty bad....
trschaefer 11 months ago
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kakadoodoo3000 9 months ago
Call the police, quick... some bloke rendered a controversial interpretation !!
Thanks for posting.
.
cheers.
from,
del-boy.
OohGoshYoureRight 1 year ago
@Pasccom
merci pour les compliments....et compliments pour votre politesse et votre intelligence
mongemark 1 year ago
That is so rude. srsly? fsjkldfjasdjf;lsakjfd;alskjfd
CantoSemper49 1 year ago
I feel sorry for the singers, they didn't deserve that. Tenor wasn't in his best shape apparently, but shame on audience.
vlp92 1 year ago
I quite like this about the Italians. They invented opera and it is still important to them that it is done well. All classes of Italians go to the opera and it is expensive, they don't pay a fortune to listen to lazy, wealthy superstars fart about on stage. They are the same with opera as with football! Forza Italia!
Svatopluk 1 year ago 4
@Svatopluk Well said. Boo for the tenor - he SUCKS.
TsarBovov 1 year ago
@Svatopluk trust me, i'm italian, and only a few italians go to the opera nowadays..
they are lobotomized by berlusconi's TV and the football league..
we invented opera and now we are shitting on it..
=(
tommkappa 1 year ago 17
@tommkappa SAD BUT TRUE... sigh..
XPRT10R 1 year ago
@tommkappa Rossini shat on it long ago.
sstuddert 9 months ago
@tommkappa Sì, purtroppo è vero. L'Italia è ridotta a un postribolo, AIIUTOOOO PER LA NOsTRA CULTURA! Con i miei figli (32 e 29 anni) ho cercato di fare un'opera di conoscenza del bello...e ci sono riuscita, credo, anche se i miei mezzi economici non sono eccezionali....
urbino08 5 months ago
You can't really compare America to Italy in Opera audiences. The society is so different, they've more keen ears I would say, and anything other than perfection is not acceptable in most opera performances over there. You can't say they're uncivilized people though, this is normal for them, they probably look at American's yelling at referees and think "dear god how primitive," whereas we see this as acceptable behavior.
imPathogenic 1 year ago
@imPathogenic
Or maybe American opera goer is a bit more appreciative and civilized.... Booing an opera performer for missing three notes is abhorrent behavior. Italians should save that sort of attitude toward their greedy and lazy politicians, not true musicians.
calaftheeast 3 months ago 2
@calaftheeast great comment ha ha!! right on!
GABYCONSTANZA 3 months ago
Even teenagers know that artists performing live are not perfect and do not resort to booing as it is done way to often in opera. Now I really understand why opera (to shock of many people) attendance is at an all time low in Italy. Opera is more appreciated in America and other nations more than in Italy and I think that is so incredibly tragic.
newbeginxyz 1 year ago
Furlan was singing just fine in this duet, so I don't understand why the boos started again. Was the audience just looking to stir trouble for a mistake that happened way in the first act?? That, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of immaturity personified.
tristanhnl 1 year ago 5
It's unfortunate audiences don't do this more often in opera, perhaps we'd be blessed with better singers today. No better way to burst a singer or conductor's ego.
VinylToVideo 1 year ago
People, they are humans! I mean, do we do everything perfect? If you want to listen to perfection get a cd! I mean, no one will boo at a marathon runner if he twists an ankle during the marathon!!!
HelenaCastroFerreira 1 year ago
Childish
SandrineSoprano 1 year ago
The tenor produced some pretty sounds, but overall he totally missed the mark. Sutherland was ok here, remember she is far past prime. It's poor form to boo during performance in my opinion but it's justified to demand a refund afterward. I've been to live performances with worse tenors than this one. People clapped. I'd like to think that Americans are more civilized. But it's more likely because nowadays nobody knows good singing from bad. The Italians were rude but they knew great singing!
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
@GermanOperaSinger Interesting!! We Americans don't know enough to "BOOO". Nice analysis and somewhat true. I'm now living in a foreign country and what they consider "good" music is so sad. They (not everyone, obviously) just don't know the difference between good and bad, so they think some of the most awful performances are good. This may make me seem like a shob, but it is the truth!
andrecooper555 1 year ago 3
arschlöcher!!!!
wanda984 1 year ago
I wouldn´t interrupt their singing like that. People in Italy, in theaters behave so VULGAR.
The tenor was simply AWFUL. I might boo him at his curtain call but not where they did. Typical shit from Italian theaters. That people are so VULGAR!
ezayi 1 year ago
what the hell happened to that (guys, girls?!?!?!?) face -_-
TTJSPTT 1 year ago
Well, it really isn't great singing but it seems silly to ruin the whole evening because of it
craigwalters 1 year ago
I would've loved to be there, witnessing the browl. Just for fun.
Harlotito 1 year ago
this is rubbish, good editing but not true
Rattywotin 1 year ago
lets admit he was awful...2.49
osvaldoutube 1 year ago
lets admit he was awful...
osvaldoutube 1 year ago
Well, he isn´t that good here. Where they stop, its horrible...
dannymaestro 1 year ago
I don't understand... it sounds like immature teenagers...
an interesting mention is; they used do this quite frequently back in the 1800s :P But of course ... not from the same intentions.. this sounds planned... organized by children that was part of an excursion... I hope...
KarlAmade 1 year ago
@KarlAmade In Italy... beside mafiosi, they´re inmature teenagers. And by the way, the tenor was AWFUL. But I simply wouldn´t applaud at the end... or boo him at his curtain call... hihihi!
ezayi 1 year ago
I didn't even hear the crack.
louffylou 1 year ago
Awful. To boo like that is just wrong. it's total disrepct. But let's admit, he really sang terrible that part
SerchWagnerianBear 1 year ago
2:48... That's aweful...
walkingmess 1 year ago
idiotic mass of filth. I hate it when italians think they have the best music and opera, their sensational rubbish doesn't compare to the great german composers.
sstuddert 1 year ago
@sstuddert You sound like some kind of fascist. You probably like shit by Bruckner
MarcusHolly 1 year ago
@MarcusHolly No, Mozart and Beethoven.
sstuddert 1 year ago
@MarcusHolly you do realise that fascism was founded by the italians...
aemngiignmea 9 months ago
@sstuddert you are right in that, german composers are shit, italian composers are sublime.
NEBESHIKU 9 months ago
@NEBESHIKU ha, the Italians were just a bunch of greasy tunesmiths. Now get back under your bridge.
sstuddert 9 months ago 3
@sstuddert no, thank you, specially since there is were you went to see La Stupida sing, and since you lived there you onlye had to take a couple of steps to do so.
NEBESHIKU 9 months ago
@NEBESHIKU right...
"there is were" I went to see la stupida sing.
lived where?
what the devil are you talking about?
sstuddert 9 months ago
@NEBESHIKU ahh, but of course, I'm arguing with someone who can barely construct a sentence, let alone listen to great music.
sstuddert 9 months ago
@sstuddert ... if that is the best come back you have, then you are even more stupid and pathetic than La Stupida!
NEBESHIKU 9 months ago
@NEBESHIKU "if that is the best comeback you have..." Christ, what are you, 12?
You have already come out of this looking like a damn idiot because you think "german composers are shit, italian composers are sublime." Yeah, that's why the most intelligent, progressive and influencial composers in history were all Germans (Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Shoenberg) and none of them were italian.
You probably can't even read music.
Now go and listen to that fat populist Rossini.
sstuddert 9 months ago
@sstuddert Thanks for the laugh, but filth like you gets old real fast! How easy it was for me to make you do what i wanted! Please go eat shit and die (if you want to eat shit you just have t put your hand inside your mouth). I'm not wasting my tima anymore with you, get back to meonly to let me know that ou are dead, otherwise go fuck your mother! That is the reason you think german composer are so great... inbred scum like you think that!
NEBESHIKU 9 months ago
@NEBESHIKU nice one.
sstuddert 9 months ago
@sstuddert LMAO!
NEBESHIKU 9 months ago
@NEBESHIKU BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
maestrojimbo 8 months ago
it wasn't just that his voiced cracked, he was way off key..Italians who love their opera won't put up with that!
inapproprick 1 year ago
you have please only publicing singers disasters? shame!
TheDmitrilover 1 year ago
@GiuseppeSaronno Rest assured your translation is more error-proof than the majority of "native English-speakers" who post here.
Kailys3 1 year ago
Like Maria Callas said "If people don't like me, they shouldn't come to see me". I really don't understand why someone would go to a performance only to boo at the artists... (Granted, I know some were paid to do so...). And I bet they think they are so high-class and civilized, meanwhile they behave like hooligans at a football match
AOG93 1 year ago 17
@AOG93 People go a performance expecting high quality singing, and when they don't get it, they boo. This tenor was an obscure name so likely no one had ever heard of him. Sutherland had a good reputation but is way past prime here.
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
@AOG93 paid to boo? wish someone would hire me to do that. what fun. :)
kakadoodoo3000 9 months ago
@AOG93 wtf? it is all about the tenor, dude
LordMgls 9 months ago
OMG That must be just demolishing... To be booed at an OPERA... Jesus, I had shivers everywhere listening that audience.
xkyousukex 1 year ago
I remember a review of this performance. The audience had expected the decline of Sutherland, but she was much better than expected. As the result, the audience became more hostile toward the tenor because, to them, he was destroying the performance. The Italian opera audience can be very hostile, but that is why singers try their best. If singer