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  • well... with my megane renault sport I've beaten so many times my uncle's GTI that I think this is just a beauty contest

  • VW RULES

  • mmm

    Power vs lip stick vs I'm busted down in a year waiting for a french nut wrench

    

  • 4:27 - "it's French"

    I'll buy this guy a beer! :D

  • J'ai une ford focus RS et côté coffre pratique . Ma femme à une clio 3rs coffre petit

  • focus 300 bhp ,,,, golf 207 bhp use the r32

  • these cars are cars you drive fast. megane, best car to drive. nuff said.

  • Golf better.

  • I would just fuck my gti if I could it's just sooooo good

  • It's the golf

  • .... The best IS Megane R26R man, fiability, quality, and TOYO Semi-slick man! Don't forget!

  • lol i thought the reanult's plate said "UGLY"

  • seems to me that people need to realise that the nurburgring is not the be-all-end-all of tracks or proving grounds, just saying the r26r beat the focus rs round there dosent mean its a better car, theyre completely different, the renault is purely built for performance while the focus is made to be also a nice daily drive

  • If it has a Ford symbol on it......you know it sucks!!!

  • the test was for the best well-rounded car. not just on who is better on the track, which the megane would obviously win if it was solely based on that. Just seems like there are a bunch of VW haters, they aren't really bad cars.

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  • @GarrettKeetley Bitches take corners like that? Megane R26 is more than half a minute faster than VW Golf on nurburgring so talk about bitchen' bitch..

  • The Renault Megane R26 is the fastest fwd car on Nurburgring, so why would you even consider the Ford or the Vw? These cars are for racing which the Renault does best.

  • The gti crash at first corner ahahah

  • o my god what a bunch of tard, "i like the golf ". the worst sportcar ever, shit chassi shit sound and shitdesign... and they put the oldest megane its a fucking joke. why u dont take the megane 3 rs u dumb ? r26r is for track, and its the best for.

  • I'm a big fan of the Focus RS and i like also the megane but the GOLF is a PIECE OF SHIT.

  • the ford is the best so shut up

  • "just look at him fail" LOL

  • I would want the Renault Megane because even though we have a massive auto selection from around the world to choose here in America, you can't own a Megane... and people would wonder what it is. :)

  • no pues si el carro megane rs r 26 r es carro no es carro de carga ese si es un coche mejor que ni el nuevo ahi se siente la adrenalina correr como si fueras en motocicleta saludos

  • what a shit is this???????????????????

  • from these 3 I'd take renault

  • I prefer the GTI.... due to is really nice, like your first girlfriend... ohhh baby...

  • me quedo con el golf gti :)

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  • At the end of the day...The RS would blow them both.

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  • It is a fantastic car to drive though

  • @XxCHEUNGERSxX lol me for one. I had an 2009 Ultimate green lux 1, but got fed up of getting attention from teenagers in Saxos and my mrs moaning that she was embarrassed to go out in it. I consequently chopped it in for a Golf R four months after buying it new. Don't get me wrong, the RS is an amazing piece of machinery (especially when considering it's only FWD), but it does have a severe image problem - as proved in this video. The build quality is pretty crap too.

  • Chavs drive the RS; sad anoraks the Megane; men who get laid on a regular basis, the VW.

  • @jayrave4 What chavs do you know that can fork out the money for an RS?

  • You don't buy a sport car for shopping stupid muh fokaz ! ! ! BTW you end it up with the worst of the 3 ! and you could get an rs with 5 seats and cd player even full option, but you choose the super sport version ! IDIOTS . . . if you don;t know anything about cars stay out of it

  • vw always win :/

  • why argue lol they are all awesome cars be glad that we have the option now, focus for me though 300bhp is irrisistable and they now have over 400bhp with tuning :)

  • you must learn how to drive...because VW Golf isn't better...

  • Great little review guys, completely agree with everything, although maybe next time mention the prices too :P

    ...oh and i own a 2010 Golf GTi ;)

  • Trendy part of London? Yeah a bunch of wankers.

  • I AM GOING TO BUY A GOLF GTI 

  • GTI Original, and still the best!

  • FOCUS!

  • only RS

  • Vaya tonteria de comparacion, tengo un Golf VI Gti y he cogido el focus rs en varias ocasiones y es muchisimo mejor el focus para correr en casi todos los aspectos que mi golf. VAYA TONTERIA DE COMPARACION.

  • Megane is a track car, the other two are road cars.

    VW wins

  • megane ze best

  • Es ta muy mala la critica es una remenda tontería sus pruebas ....

  • Who cares where their made. I wish i owned them all....

    For the record the RS & R26R were engineered in the UK.

  • gti the best

  • The r26r renault has a racing harness, bucket seats, and a roll cage bar.... the french need all the help they can get, france sucks, every car from there is shit

  • @JMBSMBFTW You sir are stupid..

  • Why the golf GTI and not the R20 or R32 (or the Golf 24 with 440hp??)

  • ask people on the street, not some class people who drive jags or bmw :S

  • Renault: how to destroy a package!

  • Londeners..... SNOBS!

  • i'd say its unprofessional to compare Focus RS or Megane with a safety cage to a golf GTI... compare it to the golf R, and the GTI to Focus ST...

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  • I love the arguement aganist the megane (it's french)

    Fact: the french made the best hot hatchs...

  • 1)audi S3

    2)golf gti

    3)focus Rs

    4)empty

  • Ask anyone who knows a bean about cars and they'd pick the Focus for image. Go to a trendy pub and of course the halfwits in there will go for the VW because "it's German, yah, and so cool" - but it's so slow!

    Put them on a track and watch the Focus blitz them (yes - even the Renault). The Focus RS can even give my TVR a run for its money in a sprint and would probably beat it on a twisty B road. The VW is so DULL even if it is practical.

    1) Focus

    2) Golf

    3) Megane (I've owned 4 Renaults!)

  • The GTI just does everything well which is why they are so loved by enthusiasts. It's truly a machine that you can drive to work all week and have fun with on the weekend. I agree with the outcome of the test, but given the chance I'd buy the R26R since I live a short drive from Laguna Secca and Infineon, and spend my weekends doing track days/autocrossing. My wife's also cool with purpose built machines (she SCCA club races), so I don't need to compromise fun for function to keep off the couch.

  • GOLF 5 IS THE BEST

  • @26granittmava26

    You can keep it mate....

  • nooo ma la golf la fchifooooo la piu bella è la ford ma non capite niente di bellezza e potenza

  • Most asinine test I've ever seen. I am not a ford fan at all but the RS is hands down my choice.

  • Megane Sport the best hot hatches!! , the others too much heavies!!!!!

  • @tequisport

    What the hell is the point of a hatchback when you've got a roll cage in the way of everything? The purpose of the hatchback is to be practical and fun. If you want a fun car that's not practical you're far better served by buying a rwd coupe!

  • great video

  • been thinking of buying ether the ford focus rs or golf gti, but i must say i'm getting more intrested in the rs cause of the sound, looks and exclusivly, might aswell go up in price after a few years don't know. anyone got anything to add on that cause itl will take a while before i might buy ;)

  • the best is FORD FOCUS RS ;-)

  • the best car is ford focus rs. the others cars are shit. video shit

  • First Londoner is an fool. The RS doesn't have the Fiesta's switchgear, the Még is French? Good job stereotyping, jackass. If all French cars broke down in a year, Renault and PugCit would've been gone long ago. The guy's a cock. And just like DEEJAYBELL1976 said, it's the worst test you could have. The Ford's a pub hothatch, the R26 is a track star and the GTI is a hothatch made for town. Did it win that test because he could fit in the trunk? That's just stupid.

  • First Londoner is an fool. The RS doesn't have the Fiesta's switchgear, the Még is French? Good job stereotyping, jackass. If all French cars broke down in a year, Renault and PugCit would've been gone long ago. The guy's a cock.

  • Megane RS R26.R is race car. Try they on a track. ;) Btw, megane is the fastest car powered front wheel drive on the world. And these folk there are big noobs. :) Have a nice day all of you.

  • @SLOMatej

    This isn't about which is faster on a track. This is a best all-around hot hatch test. Which the GTI definitely wins hands down. The Reno may be the fastest on the track but i doubt anybody would buy a daily driver with a racing harness and no stereo. Now if the competition was about a pure racing/ track car then I would chose the Reno but I would get a nice warranty for when it starts to break =]

  • @protestthisaccount You can also buy standard megane RS with all this features, but it also drive better than golf. Chassis is on megane simply the best. Renault Sport has a reputation and tradition, their products are everywhere considered one of the best, but if you and the rest of the VW fans like it or not.

  • @SLOMatej Sta ima najbrzi ???

  • wrong RS is

    

  • @SLOMatej Still look like crap! No matter how fast it goes!

  • @Charette212 If you mean plastic windows and other features which R26.R doesn't have is this because it is racing car and it is not car for every day. This car for the racetrack and it must be as light as it could be. If you want sports megane for every day, you should look for standard megane RS.

  • @SLOMatej I live in Canada we have no Megane car here im just giving you my point has a neutral observer. Maybe its fast but god I think it look bad! What the point of testing a track car with those 2 road car?

  • the rs is infinatly better than the gti. End of

    The R26 doesnt hit the right buttons for me, love to have one just for track, but i'd never ever buy one.

  • @dangriffin118

    You cannot in all facts buy this Megage RS26 now in the market now LOL

    you can buy this heir the Megane 3 RS, ligther and more powerfull

    & it is sure the Megane 3 RS win far vs this Focus and this Golf on the road because it is the only thing which look at the guys which buys such sport cars

    we dont care complety to know the volume of their trunk…

  • That is pure bullshit, focus is the best all around

  • @bullitt042001 Ha only an American can belive that

  • the renault driver says reno ?

  • Take no notice of anyone but clarkeson.... thtas why he is where he is & errrr... these morons are where they are.. nuff said.

  • @nobby2000 oh right I did t realise you were comparing GTI. That's a different market of car. Golf R is the Focus competitor. My whole point is that if actually sit/drive in one, you might they are actually a fantastic proposition for the money.

  • @nobby2000 hey I can't fully agree. The golf has 265HP anyway not 200. Its also has AWD which instantly makes it better on more surfaces. To a 100 and quarter mile the R is quicker. Add in some rain or dirt and it gets worse for the Focus. All this whilst being an a car that looks like a sleeper an built like a brick. I like the focus. It's raw etc.. But I value the cabin as much as the supposed speed your suggesting the RS has.

  • @Mailme81 The regular Golf GTi is what they are testing here and that has 200bhp or 230bhp for the 'Edition 30' model.. The 'R' model is nearly £4000 more expensive than the Focus RS and that is before you add any extras to the Golf 'R' It's just my opinion that they are not good value at those inflated prices, and also not such a 'premium product' that is worth that extra money..... I have owned them myself and they gave me far more trouble and expense than 10 years owning Ford's Focus models..

  • Can't understand why people rave about VW build quality. Too expensive. Spec one up with leather and some options and you will be thousands more expensive than the equivalent Ford, Renault or Vauxhall etc. They aren't any better built to command that extra premium price..

  • they forgot to mantion about the numbers and then ford wins hands down

  • RENAULT MEGANE SPORT ... one number car f1 team

  • 1) focus

    2)megane

    4667373)golf

  • endurance and quality..i will go with the golf thanks

  • Golf and Renault 'r made for oldies who cant handle pure power..

    And ofc -.- Ford RS are not made for shoping and "have tripps with the family"..

    why would ford install Recaro rally seats if they wanted it to be a family car?

    10p for the RS. // 6p GOLF. and 3p to Renault

  • I'd have the focus in snot green thank you!

  • you should have tested Golf R with these two..

  • The Golf is the shit. Man once you sit in a GOLF you will be blown away. Nothing this side of a MERC/BMW will bring you closer to that solid quality feel.

    The Ford and other thing look like steroid driven Hyundais..

    If you want a class hatch get the GOLF. If you want a fast one just buy a WRX.. that renault thing is disgusting.

  • @Mailme81 "Man once you sit in a GOLF you will be blown away"

    Yes, very probably, at the lights by an RS Focus..!!!!!!! No substitute for cubes 2.5litre v's 2litre, and power 300bhp v's 200bhp....

  • ford focus all the way its the best looking, fastest the golf looks like a hairdressers car and the renault megane is allright looking if it was in a different colour, so if i had to spend money on one of these cars i would buy the ford as it is only £27000 brand new compared to that version of of the golf which is £32000 which is a farse

  • The girl:

    - I prefer this one.

    - Why?

    - *(thinks) Because it´s red.

    Girls :DD

  • megane is too stipped out, golf is too boring...

  • that's what a focus is meant for ^^

  • this review is meaningless, it proves nothing, every car here is in a different class, the golf is a hothatch the focus is a hyperhatch and the r26r is a trackday car, thats why you cant fit anything in the boot,

  • 1.58 i never knew they meganes where automatic lol

  • la rubia con la copa en la mano es chistosa como que habla de que se comeria al wn dueño del golf

  • Seriously though 4 of my friends own vw and they are so expensive. you have to go to a dealer to get any work done on them. it is ridiculous. my sister just got her battery changed and it coast her 700 dollars. and they forgot to restart the cpu which is the whole reason she took it there. volkswagons are amazing when they are new though, run some miles on them and they are done. although ford is not any better. there is a reason ford stands for "Fix Or Repair Daily."

  • @beatboxbys "Fix or repair daily" where does that come from..?? The Fords of old maybe..?? I'm on my 3rd Focus and I have never had any problems with ANY of them. Apart from wear and tear items and servicing they have never let me down ever and that's in ten years of driving them... 

  • GOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all dayyyyy!!!!!!!!

  • thats why every single volks owner i know is ALWAYS doing SOMETHING on them, built solid, HA! ya, dont go with what car reviews say, they dont keep the cars long term

  • These tossers dont have a clue what they are talking about... Watch top gear you useless monkeys!

  • These bellends are thick, Topgear has already put the Megan and Focus up against each other....

  • the golf is a german piece of crap, meaning everything will fall apart/ off after a month, the renault is sick, but its super impractical for daily use, and its not like your buying a 250k supercar, so its kinda pointless to own a hatch that you cant use daily, and the ford, is well, a ford, so itll be fun for a bit, till the engine starts puffing, things like windshield wipers fail, and the valves start clacking

  • @hondahp18 you are such a tool. German cars fall apart? Are you joking or just seriously stupid? Germans are known for build quality. VW/Audi have the best interiors. Lamborghini near enough has a Audi Interior.

    The Renault is the car that will fall apart with its nasty plastic and fiber glass panels. The Ford is seriously fast. And Ford cars are one of the most reliable. As for it starting to 'Puff', very rare to hear that happen to a Volvo engine.

  • don't like it because....it's french, what an mindblowing argument!!!!, that guy really knows about cars, french are the best in making chassis, that means they don't need to put huge engines or 4WD to give pleasure to the driver, and if you want to go shopping to ikea (beurk) buy a fucking VW touran

  • Golf is the best car..=)

  • @neox1 renault megane the most sexy car on earth and damn yes its french its the best, using the best technology on earth and rap all other cars renault are borned to win always only ugly and boring people without any imagination would say that, megane r26r hold the ring on nurburning as the most fastest car front wheel drive on earth, i think this is the reason that you are yelaous and for that hate the most of people.,))))

  • Can someone explain to me why the R26R is being compared to the RS and GTI? It seems bizarre that an all out track day weapon is being compared to two cars which are just hot hatches. The R26R is a great car but would it still fair as well if both the GTI and the RS were given the same treatment?

  • i think the guys need to be punched in the face, because the Focus RS is alot better than those poser (i'm alright with the GTi, but the Renault Megane looks like shit)

  • VW FTW!!!

  • Scared of looking like the pretentious white trash you really are? buy a golf ...

  • The Megane r26 r is the best to drive!!! who want a radio and a charge boxes in a sport car?!! Renault Sport forever! The best!

  • @tequisport HAHA :D

  • The Ford Focus is for male¡¡

    You can show the Power, Image....

    And the VW GTI..mmm...what can i say? The women prefer it.

  • Yes the Germans did it again!!!

  • @maliksba yeah but was only the GTI it should be R32 :) that`s the rival in this category GG golf

  • @neox1100 with only the GTI and it performed better. never mind the r32, they won't stand a chance ;)

  • its the way they loaded the boxes differently thats why the golf seemingly won even though the rs has a bigger boot :S, the renault has a radio and a roll cage for fucks own sake

  • its the way they loaded the boxes differently thats why the golf seemingly won even though the rs has a bigger boot :S

  • fuck the renault,it looks shity..fuck the focus..why?because its ford..vw is the shit,why?,well its vw

  • @225740amaury ford has many great cars in Europe.

  • @Aspireonthego but i live in america..and im sure they have great small little cars over there,like the fiesta..but im not interested in that.

  • it's a bit pointless:

    the r26r is closer to a track car than a genuine hot hatch, all striped out. it should be out of the test

    I would preffer the ford's extreme image and racy interior to the golf's more civilized character. I mean a stock fwd car with a 305bhp is an extreme idea, hence it looks extreme. Oh and we used to have pre-facelift mk2 focus, believe me, it's VERY practical.

    I'd have an RS and not care if people find it looks bad or boy-racer. But the GTI is iconic and respectable

  • Why don't they use the R26 instead of the R26R? Not losing much in performance, does have a radio, does have windows (i.e. not plastic ones) and can have normal paint work.

    Focus - A front wheel drive 300bhp car, sounds great but there is something missing, perhaps it should have been 4WD but then it would be against Evos. I like when the guy decides he prefers the Focus because of power, it shows what sort of drivers go for these cars.

    Golf - looks nice but for the older man!

  • the golf is far too expensive and also the renault has plastic windows, no radio and has a roll cage in the bag instead of seats or a proper boot, c mon and a four point harness ffs

  • the golf is far too expensive and also the renault has plastic windows, no radio and has a roll cage in the bag instead of seats or a proper boot, c mon

  • What a bias piece of Horse SH**.

  • I wouldn't pick the renault because.....well it's french!! hahahahahaha priceless

  • fucking twats...rs its the best car...wtf either you want a fast hackback or a limousine or a fucking trailer...

  • The Golf is the best you have to admit it, its the best looking and the best car over all, when do you drive fast on roads like that in the normal day

  • @RedBullStig1 Country roads round where I live are relatively quiet close to midnight.

  • The golf R would be top of my list if it didn't use a direct injection (FSI) engine. There are worrying stories of all FSI engines suffering from carbon build up due to the faulty design where fuel doesn't come into contact with the valves as it used to. A search in google on "RS4 carbon build up" and you'll find worrying stories, not affecting just Audi but VW and a few other mfr's that use FSI (turbo and non-turbo) engines.

  • @caseyryeback1913 skoda uses Fsi 2;)

  • renault megane --> ugliest car on earth and it`s french ...

  • @neox1100 u got no taste.

  • @aoisatain then u got taste for me 2 is u like that car.. :)) vw and ford max fiability u can get for cheap $

  • @neox1100 yeahh,it's french car..but amazing fast..best 2WD..

  • @neox1100 yeahh,it's french car..but amazing fast..best 2WD..

  • @neox1100 Go fuck a camel romanian gypsy...u dont know a shit about cars

  • @scoot24925 Go fuck you`re gipsy mother ;) gypsys are everywhere in the world not just in ro ;)

  • @scoot24925

    +1 ^^

    :-)

  • @cumbas all those idiots who talk shit over the internet about french cars...have never driven one in their life..they are only jelous..because Renault has kicked Ford and Wv's ass since 80's.

  • @scoot24925

    1b)

    Yes it is much more time the case

    or only just Anti-French jaleous also ^^

    our only answer ?

    look my last message to this little c***k of neox1100 (from Romania, there are cars in Romania ? lol actually yes, just one, DACIA which makes cars better than before since it is the property of… Renault lol )

    Our answer it are all the titles of World Champion by the French Cars or engines in 2010 for exemple ^^

  • @scoot24925

    2b-end)

    The words of these idiot noobs dont pass, only the victories on the roads speak & are proofs :-)

    And here it is a perfect "French cars & Engines Rule!!" :-)

    so, see you later

    My Clio RS1 (from 2001 the 1st version the nicer ^^) salute you :-)

  • @neox1100

    2a)

    My only answer for noobs kids like you and/or anti-French :

    - F1 2010 World Champion ? Red Bull RENAULT

    - WRC 2010 World Champion ? CITROEN C4 WRC

    - Le Mans Series World Champion ? PEUGEOT 908 Hdi

    Where are Ford or WW in these 3 main international cars championships ? LOL

    The French made Sport cars for everybody (not for only a few par of noobs richmen) who are true fans and scholars & not for noob kids So now shut up please & return in your video games :-)

  • @cumbas the very best unbilieveble french car for me was the r5 turbo maxi, the others are very good but this,,,,,,,

  • @cumbas ejem........ how many Peugeots broke during the 24h of Le Mans? How many times Audi have won Peugeot?

  • @javifsr

    1c)

    and ? LOL

    where is the interest of your answer ?

    I dont say like idiot noobs that Audi is shit...

    I say that Peugeot is not shit and it even a great sport cars builder by all its titles of WC in all cars competitions

    I dont say that Audi never won

    I say that Peugeot win!!

    The victories of Audi dont stop the victories of Peugeot no ? lol

  • @javisfsr

    2c)

    & the only fact is that Peugeot is the WC 2010, no Audi

    Audi take interest for the races type Le Mans Series since more decades than Peugeot who taken interest more for Rally or African rally races (since the beggining of the 20th century even)

  • @javisfsr

    3c-end)

    But in spite of that in few years Peugeot built itself a great palmares & victories in all the famous races of Le Mans Series also !!

    Thus it is even greatest to see that a builder's Sport cars like Peugeot won in littler time all the races in Le Mans Series where others won it in several decades ^^

  • @cumbas Fair comment and I'm certainly not Anti-French. But the current WRC championship is a joke. There are only Citroen and Ford in it..!!! 2 manufacturers does not make a very good championship. Also being at the top in any field of motorsport, does not necessarily mean that manufacturer will produce good or interesting road cars for the consumer....

  • @nobby2000

    1b)

    Before to read this idiotic & jaleous comment I said myself "only a pure little roastbeef can dare to write such idiotic & illogical conclusion"

    and ?

    Bingo!! lol

    I see the things more differently ^^

    1- The others "get out" from the WRC becauce especially the French are here, because they know that if the French are here they dont win much more races ^^

  • @nobby2000

    2b)

    2- noob learn again trying to forget your old hatred & jaleousy vs French the History of the WRC since the last 20-25 years for example

    3- Thus for you currently Ford or the others big builders are shit & only Citröen or Peugeot are great in the WRC ?

    bad & not fair-play for Ford & the others ^^lol

  • @nobby2000

    3b)

    4- you can write all your jaleous words (I understand your jaleousy when we compare France and England :-) ) only the truth on the roads & the titles speak and it speak for the French & for a perfect French Rule !! ^^

    5- For "Le Mans Series" be cool, the next year 2011 you will see more builders go back... Yes Peugeot stop this year the "Le Mans Serie" after his title of WC 2010.. AHAHAHAH

  • @nobby2000

    4b-end)

    6- I see especially that more peoples are logical & think like me & not like you :-)

    Yes see my post in the... top LOL ^^

  • @cumbas

    For your information my French friend. The ONLY reason that Citroen are winning ANY WRC events is because Lancia, Toyota and Mitsubishi departed and not because they were afraid of the French, no, because they were fed up of beating them... Lancia, Toyota and Mitsubishi dominated the WRC, the French cars were NOWHERE and that's a fact..!!!!!!

  • @cumbas Wasn't having a go at you or the French in general, seems you are the one with the attitude and you don't like Great Britain..?? and for your information I find your "roast beef" analogy very insulting.... Fact is Citroen may have an excellent WRC car in the C4, not disputing that. But they make rubbish and very boring road cars and that's a fact. Name me one car in the Citroen range that can even compete with a Ford Focus RS..?? You can't because there isn't one....

  • I'd pick the RS of the 3. The GTi is good but ultimately not that exciting and the Renault is too compromised. Who gives a damn what other people think too. If you love driving, you don't buy a car to impress other people. There's the BMW 318i for the pretentious.

  • @sodazman

    1b)

    What is it the rapport with the discussions here ??

    Idiot anti-French guys dare to say that the French dont know to made sport cars...

    I proof the truth & the opposite to remain to them the great palmares of teh French in all the competitions around teh world since several decades & even the perfect FRENCH RULES in 2010 in the 3 mains cars competitions F1, WRC & Le Mans Series

    What country can say this ? None except France !

    FINAL POINT because no discussions possible on it ! ^^

  • 2b)

    After ?? lol again

    Dont speak about that you don know and especialy about me...

    I hate the visual tuning on a car & all my little sport cars since more of 20 years have not visual tuning or others of visual differents to the stock version

    I prefer so far "tuning" their engine, so great surprise for the others ^^