Albert Pierpoint got exection down to a fine art. It was normal for the condemmed man to be dead within 10 seconds of his entry into the chamber. With lethal injection it often takes over half an hour from entry into the execution chamber to extinction of life. One can argue that whichever method was used the death penalty had become sanitised. While most people seem to prefer lethal injection to hanging, I would favour the latter due to it's swiftness. Derek however shouldn't have hanged.
@type42sheff Barbaric? I guess that's why we live in the lovely, beautiful, peaceful, wonderful society we now live in where there is no ultimate penalty for even a person who kills a Policeman or even the Prime Minister. We have forensic (indisputable) evidence these days -it's got to come back! But I agree it's bad to look at.
@Blabloo72 You are entitled to your opinion of course but I for one am glad we no longer have capital punishment, statistics actually show that numbers of fatal UK crimes haven't changed since the 1940's. Infact all such crimes have fallen in the last twenty years, so a lack of capital punishment is not proof that the kind of crimes on which this film centres go wildly out of control as you suggest.
If I was born and same is as him.. I would of got a few guns and busted him out of there and hanged them bastard scum bags -_-. Pissed me off when I first saw that.
That scene is so depressing! You'd expect some sort of build up but they just shove him in a room and drop him down a hole! We watched this in our English class and it had the whole class in tears. This is the greatest fuck up England has ever seen
@MrHalodude779 No so, Timothy John Evans was hanged 9th of March 1950 @ H.M.P. Pentonville for the Rillington Place murders. 3 years later John Christie the true murderer was convicted and hanged in the same prison, Evans was given a Royal Pardon, as I stated in another post, this does not quash the guilty of murder conviction. In 2004 High Court Judges refused to quash the conviction ruling that the cost could not be justified :o(
@MrHalodude779 The Idea was to dispatch the man/woman as fast as is possible, no walking down long corridors or waiting for the time to tick away before the execution. The hangman, his assistant and the governor would wait outside the cell till the hour was reached, when they entered the cell the hangman was in charge of the execution he didn’t have to wait for a signal, just do the job. Albert Pierrepoint the hangman took just 15 seconds on average from start to finish.
What was more disgraceful was that it took over 30 years to finally clear Dereks' name, as far as I can remember from reading about it, I don't think his parents lived long to see that happen.
@TheMinxter76 yeah cleared due to fucking do gooders, he was guilty he said "let him have it" aka shoot him. Why didnt he just say "give him the gun". Guilty as charged simple as end of story.
@Thenicereviewguy You stupid, inhumane, disgusting piece of dog shit. Who are you to decide that let him have it meant 'shoot him'.? 'Let him have it' means 'give him the gun' you stupid, ignorant asshole.
@sunaru1 so why didnt he just say "give him the gun"? and what about the members of the police officers family? the murdered police officer and his family members were the real victims in this crime. That murdering cunt had just what he deserved, end of guilty as charged simple as end of story.
@Thenicereviewguy Your knowledge is astounding, or should I say lack of knowledge, Derek Bentley did in fact get what he deserved in 1993 a Royal Pardon :o) Its ignorant people like you, who condemn with little or no knowledge that were in part responsible for the abolition of the death sentence. Hey I managed that without the need for filth, kind of shows what type of person you are.
@1948bazza yeah i know, my knowledge is more than yours, yeah im the kind of person that aint a spineless moron when it comes to punishing criminals, this country fucked it up when we got rid of the gallows
@Thenicereviewguy You may not be a spineless moron, but take comfort from the fact your half way there, you decide. As for your knowledge of capital punishment and more importantly this case, you seem to know nothing at all. All I am reading from you is a load of mindless rubbish, at least make an effort to know a little of the case not just type the first thing that comes into your head, in order to impress your school friends.
@Thenicereviewguy That’s just about the sum total of your input, don’t be disheartened I'm sure you can find a thread on Star Wars or something else you possibly know a little about.
@Thenicereviewguy I would quit now if I were you, mind you it made me smile, where do I start; A sentence begins with a capital, huh! I can only guess that is kiddie chat, any and more is just one word, it’s anymore tut, “In its correct way” ha-ha you mean set it out in a grammatically correct format. I give up, your command of the English language and punctuation is nothing short of childlike. 2/10 must try harder.
@1948bazza Go away moron, go back to your pc bullshit way of thinking. Oh boo fucking woo an asshole got powned for killing a police officer big deal.
@Thenicereviewguy I won’t correct that rubbish, there seems little point, just go through life with your shuttered view and the inability to discuss a topic without the need for filth and common sense.
@Thenicereviewguy What a stupid question. Who are you to decide how dereck should asked his colleague to 'give him the gun'. You class one, uneducated idiot. The fact is, there is a 50% chance that 'give it to him' meant 'shoot him' or meant 'give him the gun'. Now, you low intelligence fool, UK law requires 'beyond reasonable doubt'. To me, a 50% chance of guilt IS NOT BEYOND reasonable doubt. Can your pea-sized brain get around this concept?
Lots of people say Derek Bentley meant give him the gun, when he said “let him have it” no one will ever know, we can all have our own Ideas but that’s all they are. The fact is, Derek Bentley was assessed by a physiatrist as having a mental age of 11 at the time he tried to join the army, under English law he could not stand trial for a capital crime, the trial Judge refused to allow this to be used in his defence, if anyone was guilty of a crime it’s the Judge.
@sunaru1 I agree, On 29 July 1993 Bentley was granted a Royal Pardon in respect of the sentence of death passed upon him and carried out. However in English law this did not quash his conviction for murder. So even in modern times with all the evidence available he was still guilty of murder, that my friend is what we call justice :o(
@1948bazza I am aware that A Royal Pardon actually means 'you are guilty but we forgive you', something that many people do not realise. I suppose that shows what cowards those in the legal profession are - judges, police etc can NEVER accept that they were wrong. It is denial, I suppose.
If the dopey brainless police were smart , they would have waited till "Chris" turned 18 , which was less than 18mths after the shooting , then arrest him and charge him with murder ... after all there is no statutory limitations on capital crimes. It is unbeleivable that they didnt . Maybe the bloodthirsty savages in the police and judiciary wanted full blown revenge asap , this really is a fuck up beyond beleif .
I've always found it amazing to hear, very often, that those who do not support euthanasia because of moral objections, i.e. that those being euthanised might be vulnerable and so on, yet when it's capital punishment any flimsy proof is enough for people to have their pound of flesh.
@MatthewBuick Try again. Capital Punishment for murder was suspended and subsequently abolished because the 1957 Homicide Act was found to be deeply flawed and unworkable, not because of any single case.
He would've been dead as soon as it happened, that's the reason behind the trapdoor... they weigh you, and there's an "official table of drops" - lighter people have to drop further than heavier people... it's there because the correct drop will usually break the victim's neck upon impact... not enough drop, they will choke and suffocate (horrible)... and too far a drop has been known to actually decapitate someone (imagine that). RIP Derek. :-(
I watched this part in film studies today, only this part but it made me feel so bad for him and his family. The second time I watched it I couldnt because it was just so unfair for him :'( RIP Derik Bently x
@yehawcowgirl hi there i have that fil on dvd its a very sad film i firmly beleive that britain should hang murderers but derek bentley was no murderer he was 19 and had metal age of 11 my brother inlaw has mental age and it makes me so mad that people can harm innocent people with learning disabilities it should have been christopher craig who died not derek bentley i believe that when erek said let him have it chris he meant give the olice officer the gun chris not to start shooting
I cannot believe the speed with which everything happens but apparently this was exactly how it was i.e. they did it really quickly (possibly out of mercy for the victim).
@Blabloo72 They did indeed do it very quickly. Unlike some other countries, once the executioner got the ok from officials, he entered the condemned cell and needed no further confirmation to carry out the execution. So no waiting in the execution chamber, no reading the inmate a death warrant etc. It was done this way as it was believed to more humane, but also so that there was less chance the inmate would cause trouble for the staff during the procedure.
@MediaWML i fully agree with your comments the whole point of the quick stryle execution is that it takes the average person 30 seconds to recover from short shock
My Dad was around the same age as Derek back then and was doing National Service , I've asked him about this before but he changed the subject , he was bit of JACK THE Lad in his day and somehow I think it bothered him alot , was this a ditterent for young men ?
I think the poor lad may have thought that all those men in suits were going to tell him he he'd had a reprieve, Pierrpoint was doing his job and somebody had to I guess but what a pointless waste of a human life , all becuase he had epilepsy and some learning difficulites . He never hurt a soul, shame on the UK ....I hope they never bring this back.
This clip in the film is quite prolonged compared to the reality. From entering the cell Pierrepoint would have the condemned despatched in around 20 seconds! His fastest hanging was that of James Inglis at Strangeways in 1951 which took 7 seconds from Albert entering the cell!
@djduchesse The trap is big enough to hang multiple prisoners. Boards were laid across the trap. A guard on each side of the comdemned stood on a board and held the prisoner with one hand and a rope with the other hand. The ropes were only there to steady the guards and prevent them from falling into the trap.
Pierrepoint did say "Follow me Derek, It'll be alright" Pierrepoint wrote about his memories of the execution in a letter to The Guardian several years later. It was the only time he said anything other than 'Follow me" after strapping the condemned person! R.I.P Derek
@2k7lgordon calculating the correct drop for the prisoner, preparing and checking all equipment, dealing with the condemned and swiftly strapping them( Pierrepoint invented the single strap) where all duties which Pierrepoint turned from a hodge bodge hit and miss affair into a true profession.
The hanging of Bentley was used an example to deter other young men from doing what he did, whilst at the same time, illustrating how tough law and order was in the UK at the time. Ironically, it didn't lower the crime rate, but became used as an example of why the death penalty should be abolished in the UK, and it was 12 years later.
@Kevinasp Law and order wasnt tough at all in the 1950's! 50% of men and 90% of women had their death sentence commuted to one of life imprisonment. In reality this meant serving around 12yrs( less than today!) life or death if convicted of murder in the 1950's was all down to the political decision taken by the Home secretary. Not tough at all! A weak and unfair system which thankfully we no longer have in place!
I suppose he needed that attitude to do the job... any sentimentality or weakness would have made him less efficient... he did later, however, become an opponent of the death penalty....
However, we musn't make the mistake in thinking Bentley was a hero. He had been in approved school and had a criminal record. Craig also was a criminal, and on the same day as he was convicted of PC Miles' murder, Norman Parsley was jailed for four years for a robbery he did with Craig two weeks before... but as I say, there is no way Bentley should have been hanged, and is questionable about whether Craig was guilty of murder....
If that is true that PC Sidney Miles was accidentally killed by armed police, then Craig should have been imprisoned of attempted murder (of PC Fairfax) because he clearly shot him and also of manslaughter (PC Miles) and Bentley a not guilty verdict.... but I still would have jailed Bentley for attempting to break and enter, theft, and possessing an offensive weapon, even though he didn't murder anyone, and had no intention of murdering or attacking anyone.
Christmas Humphreys, counsel for prosecution who cross-examined Bentley and Craig, played a part in 3 of the murder trails which arguably brought about the end of capital punishment...he cross-examined Timothy Evans in January 1950, those two and Ruth Ellis in June 1955....
In 1970, Craig himself said he couldn't understand how he didn't kill Sgt Fairfax who was a few feet away but yet killed PC Miles, who was about 40 feet away.
Did you know that in 1970, Lord Goddard said, whilst still expressing pro-capital punishment views, that Bentley shouldn't have been hung, and that he expected him to be reprieved... In the same interview, Goddard blamed Maxwell-Fyfe for Bentley's execution...
There were many miscarriages of justice, hence why there have been pardons granted.
This case was an example of a miscarriage of justic, along with the Ruth Ellis case which was a crime of passion. Blakely had treated her like shit and she lost it in the heat of the moment.
In the Christie case, yes he was guilty without doubt, however there was no evidence to suggest Timothy Evans killed anybody. He was set up by Christie who took advantage of the fact Evans was of low intelligence.
This will be the same Ruth Ellis who actually asked to be hanged, and broke down in the Holloway condemned cell when she was informed that her case had been subject to an automatic appeal?
Deep - She may have not been bothered about saving her life. This showed she had remorse for what she did, and felt she should be executed at the time but the balance of her mind was disturbed. Things should have been investigated further and they shouldn't have been so quick in carrying out the dp.
Ruth Ellis planned the murder. She got the Gun and had a friend drive her to the Pub she knew he was drinking at. Plenty of time to think about what she was doing. She even said she intended to kill him at her trial. Even if it was in the heat of the moment, that is no excuse. We are Human Beings who know right from wrong and have the free-will to decide for ourselves. Rule of Law must be upheld.
Anzac5 - There were many things that didn't come out at Ruth Ellis's trial, and were not known until after her death. She was in a confused state of mind after months of abuse off her boyfriend. She lost a baby because of that.
She should have been charged with manslaughter and the sectence of imprisonment, not the dp.
She wasn't likely to kill again. It was in a fit of drunken rage when her mind was disturbed.
@ Painsey It obviously didn't deter anybody from commiting crimes did it, otherwise being aware of the consequences they wouldn't have done such things. They still did though didn't they.
As regards this case. The man was innocent and what's more had the mental age of a child.
Killing in revenge is not the answer anyway. If they are proved without any doubt to have commited a serious crime they should be locked up for life without parole.
34 seconds from the cell to the noose and the drop, as barbaric as the detah penalty is in any context, especially this particular case; the best that can be said of the british system is that it was more human than most.
I don't know if Pierrepoint actually said that anyway, it may have been added to this film as a dramatic feature.
If you watch "The Last Hangman" a film about Albert Pierrepoint, when he went into a cell he simply strapped the prisoners hands and said "Follow me", then walked towards the execution chamber.
we are watching this in english at schooll and its really sad derek bentley was innocent he didnt deserve the death penalty. wasnt derek bentley given a posthumous pardoning years later, he was already dead though so what use was it to him?
I watched this in school today,,aww it was horrible, i cant believe they done that,, its not fair, he didnt do anything,, if i could i would hang the guy who actually murdered someone,, all this guy done was say something that ment something else but everyone miss understood him, its so sad ! xxx
i saw this in r.e yesterday and my teacher didn't show us this bit so he said he would lend me the dvd cos i am intresed in it and i feel bad for thingy who dies but he really didn't do anything but the other person chris is alive and has his own family i bet he feels really guily for what he did for his friend
in the documentary i seen about this today it was said that bentley was 19 but he didnt have the mental age of a 19 year old and didnt have the mental development of a 19 year old and in court he didnt make himself clear and kept getting confused about what happened, and that also had a part on the jury reaching their verdict, the other guy shud have been held in custordy till he was 18 then sentenced to death and the same sentence should have been given to jamie buldgers killers
i agree with alot of people here that bentley should not have been hung for what happened and we will never know the whole truth, and i alos think that the death penalty should be brought back its easier to prove their guilt now especially with the technilogical/scientific advances they have made over the years, and id rather have someone sentenced to death than to pay taxes and them have access to tv's pool tables, etc i thought prison was meant to punish, now they are holiday camps
Regardless of what actually happened. it's hard to come away from this movie with any faith in the death penalty as it existed in Britain at that time.
Very good performance from Eccleston; I certainly cried!
Yes, one mistake is too much, but what about the lives of many more innocent people that have been destroyed by murderers who have been released and killed again. Bentley's case was a terrible miscarriage, however, he did get himself into a very dangerous situation. Now murders are more common and more brutal. Provided better safeguards are put in place, I believe that deliberate and premeditated murderers should be hanged. It is very quick, and death is instant, unlike that of many victims.
Like the similar scene in "10 Rillington Place" this shows just how barbaric judicial hanging really is.
It had been done out of public view since 1868. I think it would have been abolished far sooner if it had remained public. Capital punishment is a great evil that we are better off without. It ministers to the symptoms of violent crime without addressing their causes.
Bentley certainly should not have been executed. He did not fire the fatal bullets at PC Miles, he was not even in possession of a fire arm. Then again, no tears for Brady and Hindley if they had been hanged.
Yes,Bentley did say "Let him have it, Chris" He and his defence team said he was referring to the gun which was in Craig`s sweaty little mitt.....hand the gun to the police.Don`t shoot. Can you disprove that is what he meant.? Craig was too young to swing, someone [in those days] had to pay the price, it just happened to be Bentley. Even though he did not pull the trigger.
I'd have said 'Let him have it chris! Give him the gun!'
Or just give him the gun. Under the circumstances, why he didn't use that phrase as opposed to 'let him have it, Chris' is unknown and seems a rather odd phrase to use if you had any intention other than to tell your sidekick to shoot him. It will never be known I guess.
But what acting from Christopher Eccleston. Bloody brilliant film.
Even if he did say it, there is the ambiguity over the phrase let him have it... now had Bentley shouted "Go on Chris, shoot the bastard" then it would have been incitement to murder....
Craig suffered from Dyslexia which wasn't recognised at school but he wasn't retarded.... Bentley was.. Craig had a specific learning disability, Bentley's was general....
Pierrepoint and all other executioners where/are murderers. Just because it's state sanctioned dosen't make it right. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Thank goodness in Europe it's long been abolished. In some other countries it's still used though and should be abolished worldwide.
Derek was innoccent, along with Timothy Evans and many more that were killed. To do this sort of thing to one innoccent person is more than enough reason why it should never be used.
Your opinion makes "execution" become "murder", history and legal statue does not. English and Scots Law at the time made a legal distinction between execution (a judicially sanctioned punishment) and murder (a crime).
He was innocent. Not only that but he had mental health issues. That makes it murder.
He wasn't the only one either. Ruth Ellis was murdered. Hers was a crime of passion. She was abused for much of her life and her boyfriend Blakley treated her like shite.
Another case was the Christie case, when yet another innocent person was killed.
It happened far too many times, and once is more than enough. The death penalty solves nothing except for bloodthirsty individuals.
@nealthedude but dont forget it stops child molesters doesnt it, but dont let that fuck your argument up, i bet you think that ian huntley didnt do it
You and I will never agree because we come from very different and contrasting viewpoints. I will say it once again:
The law of the land allowed for the state to apply the DP. How can you not understand that simple fact? Parliament was of the opinion that if you murder, you should be killed. They are also responsible for what constitutes murder.
Judicial execution is only "murder" if you are of the abolitionist POV. Unfortunately, it is not backed up by either penal or legal history.
So the justice system now is much better? When murders can be out in eight years and they consider non-custodial sentences for rapists because the government don't want to stump up the cash for prison-building?
I love how my last comment got a thumbs-down from some tree-hugging liberal. No wonder this country is doomed. They are brainwashing the children by showing them this liberal apologist film (as good as it is from a cinema standpoint) in schools and soon society will have nothing of a backbone left.
I felt physically sick watching this in R.E an innocent man getting hung. It goes to show why we shouldnt bring back the death penalty. In modern day society when we live with human rights and ethics the death penalty just goes against it all.
Please don't give me this human rights nonsense. Do we really live in a civilised society when people get beaten to death for telling youths to behave, and they get away with 10 years? That's what makes me sick. Baby P's stepfather, Harold Shipman, Ian Huntley... They are ALIVE and their victims aren't. Families and lives destroyed. Bentley was a tragedy but provided the sentencing system is overhauled, brutal, sadistic, calculating murderers should hang. They had NO mercy.
this execution is bullshit he shouldnt have been hanged chris only gets 10 years and derek a disabled boy who didnt technicley do anything with the murder dies! wtf this isnt justice is INjustice and a disgrace to my nation
Thats fucked up no matter how you look at it.
Gantzer1 1 month ago
Albert Pierpoint got exection down to a fine art. It was normal for the condemmed man to be dead within 10 seconds of his entry into the chamber. With lethal injection it often takes over half an hour from entry into the execution chamber to extinction of life. One can argue that whichever method was used the death penalty had become sanitised. While most people seem to prefer lethal injection to hanging, I would favour the latter due to it's swiftness. Derek however shouldn't have hanged.
6edTelevision 3 months ago
Watching this without crying is impossible. At least for me it is...
Mygutsaregreen 3 months ago
so sad i felt like i had been shot when he was hung so quickly
TheGlumpable 4 months ago
I watched the film about albert pierrpoint and read the book. He was the expert in that field. But i wonder how many were botched ....
type42sheff 4 months ago
Barbaric. Thank god we abolished it.
type42sheff 5 months ago
@type42sheff Barbaric? I guess that's why we live in the lovely, beautiful, peaceful, wonderful society we now live in where there is no ultimate penalty for even a person who kills a Policeman or even the Prime Minister. We have forensic (indisputable) evidence these days -it's got to come back! But I agree it's bad to look at.
Blabloo72 5 months ago
@Blabloo72 You are entitled to your opinion of course but I for one am glad we no longer have capital punishment, statistics actually show that numbers of fatal UK crimes haven't changed since the 1940's. Infact all such crimes have fallen in the last twenty years, so a lack of capital punishment is not proof that the kind of crimes on which this film centres go wildly out of control as you suggest.
barcyorky 4 months ago
Was the person being protrayed Raymond Snowden who was featured on Ghost Adventures?
AcepilotC172 6 months ago
its soo sad and he was innocent i feel like killing craig ahhhhh
xEagleEyeGaming 6 months ago
Pierrepoint's record was 7 seconds
LokiV 6 months ago
If I was born and same is as him.. I would of got a few guns and busted him out of there and hanged them bastard scum bags -_-. Pissed me off when I first saw that.
ocelot2k10 7 months ago
The human race really is disgusting.
piperrox13 7 months ago 2
I would not want to be hanged that way - it takes all of the romance and sensuality out of the process!
CondemnedGirl 7 months ago
This is a horrible scene! I love this film
KH2R0xas 7 months ago
lmfao powned
Thenicereviewguy 8 months ago
That scene is so depressing! You'd expect some sort of build up but they just shove him in a room and drop him down a hole! We watched this in our English class and it had the whole class in tears. This is the greatest fuck up England has ever seen
MrHalodude779 8 months ago
@MrHalodude779 No so, Timothy John Evans was hanged 9th of March 1950 @ H.M.P. Pentonville for the Rillington Place murders. 3 years later John Christie the true murderer was convicted and hanged in the same prison, Evans was given a Royal Pardon, as I stated in another post, this does not quash the guilty of murder conviction. In 2004 High Court Judges refused to quash the conviction ruling that the cost could not be justified :o(
1948bazza 7 months ago
@MrHalodude779 The Idea was to dispatch the man/woman as fast as is possible, no walking down long corridors or waiting for the time to tick away before the execution. The hangman, his assistant and the governor would wait outside the cell till the hour was reached, when they entered the cell the hangman was in charge of the execution he didn’t have to wait for a signal, just do the job. Albert Pierrepoint the hangman took just 15 seconds on average from start to finish.
1948bazza 3 months ago
It makes me sick to be british!!!!
Everybody knew he was innocent!!!
Chris craig should have got life inprisonment!!!!!!!
LucyJane19971 8 months ago
What was more disgraceful was that it took over 30 years to finally clear Dereks' name, as far as I can remember from reading about it, I don't think his parents lived long to see that happen.
TheMinxter76 8 months ago
@TheMinxter76 yeah cleared due to fucking do gooders, he was guilty he said "let him have it" aka shoot him. Why didnt he just say "give him the gun". Guilty as charged simple as end of story.
Thenicereviewguy 8 months ago
@Thenicereviewguy You stupid, inhumane, disgusting piece of dog shit. Who are you to decide that let him have it meant 'shoot him'.? 'Let him have it' means 'give him the gun' you stupid, ignorant asshole.
sunaru1 7 months ago
@sunaru1 so why didnt he just say "give him the gun"? and what about the members of the police officers family? the murdered police officer and his family members were the real victims in this crime. That murdering cunt had just what he deserved, end of guilty as charged simple as end of story.
Thenicereviewguy 7 months ago
@Thenicereviewguy Your knowledge is astounding, or should I say lack of knowledge, Derek Bentley did in fact get what he deserved in 1993 a Royal Pardon :o) Its ignorant people like you, who condemn with little or no knowledge that were in part responsible for the abolition of the death sentence. Hey I managed that without the need for filth, kind of shows what type of person you are.
1948bazza 7 months ago
@1948bazza yeah i know, my knowledge is more than yours, yeah im the kind of person that aint a spineless moron when it comes to punishing criminals, this country fucked it up when we got rid of the gallows
Thenicereviewguy 7 months ago
@Thenicereviewguy You may not be a spineless moron, but take comfort from the fact your half way there, you decide. As for your knowledge of capital punishment and more importantly this case, you seem to know nothing at all. All I am reading from you is a load of mindless rubbish, at least make an effort to know a little of the case not just type the first thing that comes into your head, in order to impress your school friends.
1948bazza 7 months ago
@1948bazza yawn
Thenicereviewguy 7 months ago
@Thenicereviewguy That’s just about the sum total of your input, don’t be disheartened I'm sure you can find a thread on Star Wars or something else you possibly know a little about.
1948bazza 7 months ago
@1948bazza you know a little about, huh? First learn on how to put an English sentence in its correct way before sending me any more posts.
Thenicereviewguy 7 months ago
@Thenicereviewguy I would quit now if I were you, mind you it made me smile, where do I start; A sentence begins with a capital, huh! I can only guess that is kiddie chat, any and more is just one word, it’s anymore tut, “In its correct way” ha-ha you mean set it out in a grammatically correct format. I give up, your command of the English language and punctuation is nothing short of childlike. 2/10 must try harder.
1948bazza 7 months ago
@1948bazza Go away moron, go back to your pc bullshit way of thinking. Oh boo fucking woo an asshole got powned for killing a police officer big deal.
Thenicereviewguy 7 months ago
@Thenicereviewguy I won’t correct that rubbish, there seems little point, just go through life with your shuttered view and the inability to discuss a topic without the need for filth and common sense.
Here endeth the lesson.
1948bazza 7 months ago
@1948bazza get fucked
Thenicereviewguy 7 months ago
@Thenicereviewguy Point proven :o)
1948bazza 7 months ago
@Thenicereviewguy What a stupid question. Who are you to decide how dereck should asked his colleague to 'give him the gun'. You class one, uneducated idiot. The fact is, there is a 50% chance that 'give it to him' meant 'shoot him' or meant 'give him the gun'. Now, you low intelligence fool, UK law requires 'beyond reasonable doubt'. To me, a 50% chance of guilt IS NOT BEYOND reasonable doubt. Can your pea-sized brain get around this concept?
sunaru1 7 months ago
The drink, was usually brandy. It was given to 'calm the nerves' also prisoners would occasionally be allowed a last drink before being hanged.
TheMinxter76 8 months ago
Lots of people say Derek Bentley meant give him the gun, when he said “let him have it” no one will ever know, we can all have our own Ideas but that’s all they are. The fact is, Derek Bentley was assessed by a physiatrist as having a mental age of 11 at the time he tried to join the army, under English law he could not stand trial for a capital crime, the trial Judge refused to allow this to be used in his defence, if anyone was guilty of a crime it’s the Judge.
1948bazza 9 months ago
@1948bazza The trial judge and others were guilty of murder.
sunaru1 7 months ago
@sunaru1 I agree, On 29 July 1993 Bentley was granted a Royal Pardon in respect of the sentence of death passed upon him and carried out. However in English law this did not quash his conviction for murder. So even in modern times with all the evidence available he was still guilty of murder, that my friend is what we call justice :o(
1948bazza 7 months ago
@1948bazza I am aware that A Royal Pardon actually means 'you are guilty but we forgive you', something that many people do not realise. I suppose that shows what cowards those in the legal profession are - judges, police etc can NEVER accept that they were wrong. It is denial, I suppose.
sunaru1 7 months ago
Anyone know what that drink is for before they did that to him?
britelite2657 9 months ago
Poor bugger. All because of a misunderstanding... All he meant to say was "give him the gun"
VirgilwithanE 10 months ago
go go albert!!! time to claim the streets back.
MrSmi88y 10 months ago
If the dopey brainless police were smart , they would have waited till "Chris" turned 18 , which was less than 18mths after the shooting , then arrest him and charge him with murder ... after all there is no statutory limitations on capital crimes. It is unbeleivable that they didnt . Maybe the bloodthirsty savages in the police and judiciary wanted full blown revenge asap , this really is a fuck up beyond beleif .
Skip43100 10 months ago
This case is one of those that have me say, 'It's not capital punishment that's wrong....I just wouldn't trust a court on Earth with it'
athame57 10 months ago
I've always found it amazing to hear, very often, that those who do not support euthanasia because of moral objections, i.e. that those being euthanised might be vulnerable and so on, yet when it's capital punishment any flimsy proof is enough for people to have their pound of flesh.
authoradamwhittaker 11 months ago
to see an innocent life be taken away...
thank god he got justice but it took TOO long
xNEONxDINOSAURx 11 months ago
Very very sad. Poor guy never deserved this. Even if he was guilty (which he wasn't), noone, NOONE, deserves this.
cockywatchman1976 1 year ago 2
The biggest travesty in the history of UK justice.
bgibb101 1 year ago 2
No more death penalty in Britain because of this sad story. Let's hope that the lesson isn't forgotten again in future.
MatthewBuick 1 year ago
@MatthewBuick Try again. Capital Punishment for murder was suspended and subsequently abolished because the 1957 Homicide Act was found to be deeply flawed and unworkable, not because of any single case.
DeepSixed300 1 year ago
People that killed baby peter or baby p deserve this. Same for rose west, Myra Hindley. Scum of the earth. I can`t feel any sadness if they got this.
tku28 1 year ago
@tku28 Funny that you single out females.
authoradamwhittaker 11 months ago
They hanged DR WHO !!! that's where he went!
MrSluggo666 1 year ago
He would've been dead as soon as it happened, that's the reason behind the trapdoor... they weigh you, and there's an "official table of drops" - lighter people have to drop further than heavier people... it's there because the correct drop will usually break the victim's neck upon impact... not enough drop, they will choke and suffocate (horrible)... and too far a drop has been known to actually decapitate someone (imagine that). RIP Derek. :-(
Camberwell86 1 year ago
@Camberwell86 executioners have been known to deliberately use a choking drop to make prisoners suffer.
authoradamwhittaker 11 months ago
He was "good to the last drop". 5 Maxwell House cups of coffee to this hanging scene
girdalia 1 year ago
I watched this part in film studies today, only this part but it made me feel so bad for him and his family. The second time I watched it I couldnt because it was just so unfair for him :'( RIP Derik Bently x
yehawcowgirl 1 year ago
@yehawcowgirl hi there i have that fil on dvd its a very sad film i firmly beleive that britain should hang murderers but derek bentley was no murderer he was 19 and had metal age of 11 my brother inlaw has mental age and it makes me so mad that people can harm innocent people with learning disabilities it should have been christopher craig who died not derek bentley i believe that when erek said let him have it chris he meant give the olice officer the gun chris not to start shooting
eaglesfan2oo8 1 year ago
Rest in peace Derek - the nation is still behind you.
Go to hell those that accused him wrongly.
queensofia123 1 year ago
awwww,bless.lets give him a badge of honour asbo instead,
smi88y 1 year ago
wtf?!
1ordy421 1 year ago
I cannot believe the speed with which everything happens but apparently this was exactly how it was i.e. they did it really quickly (possibly out of mercy for the victim).
Blabloo72 1 year ago 11
@Blabloo72 They did indeed do it very quickly. Unlike some other countries, once the executioner got the ok from officials, he entered the condemned cell and needed no further confirmation to carry out the execution. So no waiting in the execution chamber, no reading the inmate a death warrant etc. It was done this way as it was believed to more humane, but also so that there was less chance the inmate would cause trouble for the staff during the procedure.
MediaWML 1 year ago
@MediaWML i fully agree with your comments the whole point of the quick stryle execution is that it takes the average person 30 seconds to recover from short shock
eaglesfan2oo8 1 year ago
@Blabloo72 Pierrepoint was the best if not one of.
Noodles37UK 6 months ago
i dont know how chris could live with himself knowing that he killed a police officer and by doing so killing derek aswell
lameck17 1 year ago
My Dad was around the same age as Derek back then and was doing National Service , I've asked him about this before but he changed the subject , he was bit of JACK THE Lad in his day and somehow I think it bothered him alot , was this a ditterent for young men ?
steve7395 1 year ago
I think the poor lad may have thought that all those men in suits were going to tell him he he'd had a reprieve, Pierrpoint was doing his job and somebody had to I guess but what a pointless waste of a human life , all becuase he had epilepsy and some learning difficulites . He never hurt a soul, shame on the UK ....I hope they never bring this back.
steve7395 1 year ago
Where are the ropes the prison officers held onto whilst holding the condemned on the trapdoor?
mertonparka 1 year ago
This clip in the film is quite prolonged compared to the reality. From entering the cell Pierrepoint would have the condemned despatched in around 20 seconds! His fastest hanging was that of James Inglis at Strangeways in 1951 which took 7 seconds from Albert entering the cell!
mertonparka 1 year ago
@mertonparka Also, I believe he used to almost remove the pin to make it quicker.
djduchesse 1 year ago
@djduchesse The trap is big enough to hang multiple prisoners. Boards were laid across the trap. A guard on each side of the comdemned stood on a board and held the prisoner with one hand and a rope with the other hand. The ropes were only there to steady the guards and prevent them from falling into the trap.
98katman 1 year ago
Pierrepoint did say "Follow me Derek, It'll be alright" Pierrepoint wrote about his memories of the execution in a letter to The Guardian several years later. It was the only time he said anything other than 'Follow me" after strapping the condemned person! R.I.P Derek
mertonparka 1 year ago
Albert Pierrepoint was truly a professional!
DelValle1980 1 year ago
what at killing? he simply hung people. not difficult...
2k7lgordon 1 year ago
@2k7lgordon calculating the correct drop for the prisoner, preparing and checking all equipment, dealing with the condemned and swiftly strapping them( Pierrepoint invented the single strap) where all duties which Pierrepoint turned from a hodge bodge hit and miss affair into a true profession.
mertonparka 1 year ago
why do they give him a drink before he gets hanged?
TheTinycat 1 year ago
@TheTinycat It was a shot of brandy they gave to prisoners to help wih their nerves. No tranquilizers where ever given condemned prisoners in the U,K
mertonparka 1 year ago
to ease his nerves
2k7lgordon 1 year ago
@2k7lgordon would take more than a small shot to ease the nerves lol
TheTinycat 1 year ago
we have to watch this shit in history, and I fucked up all the way through, worst movie eva
diularsing123 1 year ago
@diularsing123 Idiot
MrMusclefish 1 year ago
@MrMusclefish idiot
diularsing123 1 year ago
Christopher Eccleston was brilliant in this. Played the part with so much emotion and depth.
nellytheninkynonk 1 year ago 6
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Fuckin lol'd
VerminAutopsy 1 year ago
The hanging of Bentley was used an example to deter other young men from doing what he did, whilst at the same time, illustrating how tough law and order was in the UK at the time. Ironically, it didn't lower the crime rate, but became used as an example of why the death penalty should be abolished in the UK, and it was 12 years later.
Kevinasp 1 year ago
@Kevinasp Law and order wasnt tough at all in the 1950's! 50% of men and 90% of women had their death sentence commuted to one of life imprisonment. In reality this meant serving around 12yrs( less than today!) life or death if convicted of murder in the 1950's was all down to the political decision taken by the Home secretary. Not tough at all! A weak and unfair system which thankfully we no longer have in place!
mertonparka 1 year ago
fucking brilliant.
Barsider75 1 year ago
what was the stuff they gave him to drink
jackloobyloo 1 year ago
Brandy
BadgerinSC 1 year ago
@jackloobyloo Why gave him whisky to calm him down. Even tho it most likely didn't.
pivotSUN 1 year ago
@jackloobyloo Brandy to calm the nerves. No tranquilizers where ever given to condemned prisoners in the U.K
mertonparka 1 year ago
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worst fucking movie ever.
cryptesthesia 1 year ago
Pierrepoint's professionalism is disquieting.
Scaggio 1 year ago
I suppose he needed that attitude to do the job... any sentimentality or weakness would have made him less efficient... he did later, however, become an opponent of the death penalty....
Kevinasp 1 year ago
However, we musn't make the mistake in thinking Bentley was a hero. He had been in approved school and had a criminal record. Craig also was a criminal, and on the same day as he was convicted of PC Miles' murder, Norman Parsley was jailed for four years for a robbery he did with Craig two weeks before... but as I say, there is no way Bentley should have been hanged, and is questionable about whether Craig was guilty of murder....
Kevinasp 2 years ago
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If that is true that PC Sidney Miles was accidentally killed by armed police, then Craig should have been imprisoned of attempted murder (of PC Fairfax) because he clearly shot him and also of manslaughter (PC Miles) and Bentley a not guilty verdict.... but I still would have jailed Bentley for attempting to break and enter, theft, and possessing an offensive weapon, even though he didn't murder anyone, and had no intention of murdering or attacking anyone.
Kevinasp 2 years ago
Christmas Humphreys, counsel for prosecution who cross-examined Bentley and Craig, played a part in 3 of the murder trails which arguably brought about the end of capital punishment...he cross-examined Timothy Evans in January 1950, those two and Ruth Ellis in June 1955....
Kevinasp 2 years ago
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In 1970, Craig himself said he couldn't understand how he didn't kill Sgt Fairfax who was a few feet away but yet killed PC Miles, who was about 40 feet away.
Kevinasp 2 years ago
Did you know that in 1970, Lord Goddard said, whilst still expressing pro-capital punishment views, that Bentley shouldn't have been hung, and that he expected him to be reprieved... In the same interview, Goddard blamed Maxwell-Fyfe for Bentley's execution...
Kevinasp 2 years ago
fuckn amazing ending to this underrated movie
azzleeka 2 years ago
That's right, only Derek Bentley and the hangmen know what was said DeepSixed300 and we can't ask them now can we?
Kevinasp 2 years ago
good to the last drop!!!
girdalia 2 years ago
There were many miscarriages of justice, hence why there have been pardons granted.
This case was an example of a miscarriage of justic, along with the Ruth Ellis case which was a crime of passion. Blakely had treated her like shit and she lost it in the heat of the moment.
In the Christie case, yes he was guilty without doubt, however there was no evidence to suggest Timothy Evans killed anybody. He was set up by Christie who took advantage of the fact Evans was of low intelligence.
nealthedude 2 years ago
This will be the same Ruth Ellis who actually asked to be hanged, and broke down in the Holloway condemned cell when she was informed that her case had been subject to an automatic appeal?
DeepSixed300 2 years ago
Deep - She may have not been bothered about saving her life. This showed she had remorse for what she did, and felt she should be executed at the time but the balance of her mind was disturbed. Things should have been investigated further and they shouldn't have been so quick in carrying out the dp.
nealthedude 2 years ago
Ruth Ellis planned the murder. She got the Gun and had a friend drive her to the Pub she knew he was drinking at. Plenty of time to think about what she was doing. She even said she intended to kill him at her trial. Even if it was in the heat of the moment, that is no excuse. We are Human Beings who know right from wrong and have the free-will to decide for ourselves. Rule of Law must be upheld.
Anzac5 2 years ago 2
Anzac5 - There were many things that didn't come out at Ruth Ellis's trial, and were not known until after her death. She was in a confused state of mind after months of abuse off her boyfriend. She lost a baby because of that.
She should have been charged with manslaughter and the sectence of imprisonment, not the dp.
She wasn't likely to kill again. It was in a fit of drunken rage when her mind was disturbed.
nealthedude 2 years ago
@ Painsey It obviously didn't deter anybody from commiting crimes did it, otherwise being aware of the consequences they wouldn't have done such things. They still did though didn't they.
As regards this case. The man was innocent and what's more had the mental age of a child.
Killing in revenge is not the answer anyway. If they are proved without any doubt to have commited a serious crime they should be locked up for life without parole.
nealthedude 2 years ago
lmfao pwned
painsey 2 years ago
Id do a poo, IN MY PANTS!!!!!!
THEBONEENGINE 2 years ago
bless albert.clearing the streets of the feral,feckless&the long term useless, go albert!!!
smi88y 2 years ago
i felt bad for this kid,,,a wrongful execution
lenb20052005 2 years ago 3
0:28 gotta be the worst feeling ever
ThreeMovieReviewer 2 years ago 3
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Derek Bentley was a relative of mine and I can only really express one emotion...
FUCKING OWND LOL HAXX0R PWN NUB 1337 CR0WND MOAR
MikeyWesty666 2 years ago
omg mikeywesty are you crazy!!! HES GOT PROBLEMS! HOWCAN YOU SAY ' LOL' OMG HE DIED IN THE PLACE OF A MURDERER!! YOUR SICK!
tigerztigerztigerz 2 years ago
This is so sad he got death this is why i am against the death pen, GLADE THEY GOT RID OF IT!
neil22100 2 years ago
:'(
Poor poor Derek :(
No way ever ever did he ever deserve that! It was all so quick...so sad...
Emileeh22 2 years ago 4
34 seconds from the cell to the noose and the drop, as barbaric as the detah penalty is in any context, especially this particular case; the best that can be said of the british system is that it was more human than most.
mangahead21 2 years ago
Hello there guys, im watching this video in R.E is this LEGIT?? Thanks
eGxMoNsTeR 2 years ago
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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hangman755 2 years ago 2
Utterly stupid, callous staement. Dereck was not a paedo, rapist, muderer.
You despicable, disgusting idiot.Society does not want the likes of you.
katkinsful 2 years ago 12
why is he sweating poor derek innocent
mattsonicmario 2 years ago
this is what we need,sod the asbos!!! with me?or against me?
smi88y 2 years ago
seriously against you..my reason: have you even seen this film?
777system777 2 years ago 9
Derek Bentley (the character being hung here) was innocent he should have got a reprieve, watch the rest of the film.
nancyrowina 2 years ago 3
against you completely
JackHarriso99 2 years ago
it was a sad film as we watched it in school
mattyraven3 2 years ago 4
It'll be alright?!
SeanyZombie 2 years ago
Quick and painless, which it was.
mercdriver 2 years ago 3
Ah true, still quite a disturbing thing to say really.
SeanyZombie 2 years ago 2
I don't know if Pierrepoint actually said that anyway, it may have been added to this film as a dramatic feature.
If you watch "The Last Hangman" a film about Albert Pierrepoint, when he went into a cell he simply strapped the prisoners hands and said "Follow me", then walked towards the execution chamber.
mercdriver 2 years ago
i got coursework on this film .
JonnyRigby29 2 years ago
i gotta analyse the camera angles on this for my english coursework! ITS SO HARD TO FIND THIS CLIP ON YOUTUBE!!
theamazingstickboy 2 years ago
the hanging was , fast.
Lvieru96 2 years ago 2
we are watching this in english at schooll and its really sad derek bentley was innocent he didnt deserve the death penalty. wasnt derek bentley given a posthumous pardoning years later, he was already dead though so what use was it to him?
XxxMAGICMUSICxxX 2 years ago
i got courework on this movie
benzy1494 2 years ago
I watched this in school today,,aww it was horrible, i cant believe they done that,, its not fair, he didnt do anything,, if i could i would hang the guy who actually murdered someone,, all this guy done was say something that ment something else but everyone miss understood him, its so sad ! xxx
RebekkaHarley 2 years ago
i saw this in r.e yesterday and my teacher didn't show us this bit so he said he would lend me the dvd cos i am intresed in it and i feel bad for thingy who dies but he really didn't do anything but the other person chris is alive and has his own family i bet he feels really guily for what he did for his friend
EllaKatieTV 2 years ago
in the documentary i seen about this today it was said that bentley was 19 but he didnt have the mental age of a 19 year old and didnt have the mental development of a 19 year old and in court he didnt make himself clear and kept getting confused about what happened, and that also had a part on the jury reaching their verdict, the other guy shud have been held in custordy till he was 18 then sentenced to death and the same sentence should have been given to jamie buldgers killers
theslowjoker 2 years ago
i agree with alot of people here that bentley should not have been hung for what happened and we will never know the whole truth, and i alos think that the death penalty should be brought back its easier to prove their guilt now especially with the technilogical/scientific advances they have made over the years, and id rather have someone sentenced to death than to pay taxes and them have access to tv's pool tables, etc i thought prison was meant to punish, now they are holiday camps
theslowjoker 2 years ago
Regardless of what actually happened. it's hard to come away from this movie with any faith in the death penalty as it existed in Britain at that time.
Very good performance from Eccleston; I certainly cried!
eversoplucky 2 years ago
Also WTF was the point of the drink? Like it would calm or desensitise him before he died less than 30 seconds later!
Fucking stupid
brilliant performance by christopher eccleston (One of the top three of britains best actors)
DancenTranceBeats 2 years ago
Whatever anyone might say
Hundreds of put down murderers aren't worth the taking of an innocent life
id rather keep the death penalty out than pay for it with the likes of Derek Bentley
DancenTranceBeats 2 years ago 2
Yes, one mistake is too much, but what about the lives of many more innocent people that have been destroyed by murderers who have been released and killed again. Bentley's case was a terrible miscarriage, however, he did get himself into a very dangerous situation. Now murders are more common and more brutal. Provided better safeguards are put in place, I believe that deliberate and premeditated murderers should be hanged. It is very quick, and death is instant, unlike that of many victims.
jedforest1885 2 years ago
Like the similar scene in "10 Rillington Place" this shows just how barbaric judicial hanging really is.
It had been done out of public view since 1868. I think it would have been abolished far sooner if it had remained public. Capital punishment is a great evil that we are better off without. It ministers to the symptoms of violent crime without addressing their causes.
JekyllBoote 2 years ago
Bentley certainly should not have been executed. He did not fire the fatal bullets at PC Miles, he was not even in possession of a fire arm. Then again, no tears for Brady and Hindley if they had been hanged.
TheWhitehall 2 years ago 2
he told him let him have it pure and simple in other words he said shoot him, fuck bentley oh yeah and what about the policeman
painsey 2 years ago
Yes,Bentley did say "Let him have it, Chris" He and his defence team said he was referring to the gun which was in Craig`s sweaty little mitt.....hand the gun to the police.Don`t shoot. Can you disprove that is what he meant.? Craig was too young to swing, someone [in those days] had to pay the price, it just happened to be Bentley. Even though he did not pull the trigger.
TheWhitehall 2 years ago
so why didnt he say give him the gun chris other than let him have it, thats the proof that he said shoot
painsey 2 years ago
He probably didn't think it meant any harm.
I would say "Let him have it"
then "Give him the gun , chris"
less of a mouthful.
Christ at how fast it happened
InstantMix 2 years ago
Yeah, I was thinking that.
I'd have said 'Let him have it chris! Give him the gun!'
Or just give him the gun. Under the circumstances, why he didn't use that phrase as opposed to 'let him have it, Chris' is unknown and seems a rather odd phrase to use if you had any intention other than to tell your sidekick to shoot him. It will never be known I guess.
But what acting from Christopher Eccleston. Bloody brilliant film.
RoadRunnerDrummerJD 2 years ago
Then again , there isn't actually any proof that Derek said "Let him have it" , only the policeman's word.
InstantMix 2 years ago 2
Even if he did say it, there is the ambiguity over the phrase let him have it... now had Bentley shouted "Go on Chris, shoot the bastard" then it would have been incitement to murder....
Kevinasp 2 years ago
he got hit on the head when he was a baby so he suffers from dyslexia
razer 2 years ago
No, he was illiterate, mentally retarded and epileptic. Shouldn't have had to go through this ''/ A VICTIM OF BRITISH INJUSTICE
jackyeah00 2 years ago 2
Craig suffered from Dyslexia which wasn't recognised at school but he wasn't retarded.... Bentley was.. Craig had a specific learning disability, Bentley's was general....
Kevinasp 2 years ago
Pierrepoint and all other executioners where/are murderers. Just because it's state sanctioned dosen't make it right. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Thank goodness in Europe it's long been abolished. In some other countries it's still used though and should be abolished worldwide.
Derek was innoccent, along with Timothy Evans and many more that were killed. To do this sort of thing to one innoccent person is more than enough reason why it should never be used.
nealthedude 2 years ago
Your opinion makes "execution" become "murder", history and legal statue does not. English and Scots Law at the time made a legal distinction between execution (a judicially sanctioned punishment) and murder (a crime).
DeepSixed300 2 years ago
@DeepSixed300
He was innocent. Not only that but he had mental health issues. That makes it murder.
He wasn't the only one either. Ruth Ellis was murdered. Hers was a crime of passion. She was abused for much of her life and her boyfriend Blakley treated her like shite.
Another case was the Christie case, when yet another innocent person was killed.
It happened far too many times, and once is more than enough. The death penalty solves nothing except for bloodthirsty individuals.
nealthedude 2 years ago
@nealthedude but dont forget it stops child molesters doesnt it, but dont let that fuck your argument up, i bet you think that ian huntley didnt do it
painsey 2 years ago
You and I will never agree because we come from very different and contrasting viewpoints. I will say it once again:
The law of the land allowed for the state to apply the DP. How can you not understand that simple fact? Parliament was of the opinion that if you murder, you should be killed. They are also responsible for what constitutes murder.
Judicial execution is only "murder" if you are of the abolitionist POV. Unfortunately, it is not backed up by either penal or legal history.
DeepSixed300 2 years ago
Hanged for nothing,no wonder they got rid of the death penalty,one mistake out of 1 billion is too much,when you are dealing with a life,shocking!!
cowplain35 2 years ago
justice system back then is fuckin shit, hangin a simple minded person who was innocent! fuckin animals
kainau1 2 years ago 2
So the justice system now is much better? When murders can be out in eight years and they consider non-custodial sentences for rapists because the government don't want to stump up the cash for prison-building?
DeepSixed300 2 years ago
I love how my last comment got a thumbs-down from some tree-hugging liberal. No wonder this country is doomed. They are brainwashing the children by showing them this liberal apologist film (as good as it is from a cinema standpoint) in schools and soon society will have nothing of a backbone left.
DeepSixed300 2 years ago
RIP Derek
FILMMAKERCHAP 2 years ago 3
I felt physically sick watching this in R.E an innocent man getting hung. It goes to show why we shouldnt bring back the death penalty. In modern day society when we live with human rights and ethics the death penalty just goes against it all.
pirategal38 2 years ago
Please don't give me this human rights nonsense. Do we really live in a civilised society when people get beaten to death for telling youths to behave, and they get away with 10 years? That's what makes me sick. Baby P's stepfather, Harold Shipman, Ian Huntley... They are ALIVE and their victims aren't. Families and lives destroyed. Bentley was a tragedy but provided the sentencing system is overhauled, brutal, sadistic, calculating murderers should hang. They had NO mercy.
jedforest1885 2 years ago
this execution is bullshit he shouldnt have been hanged chris only gets 10 years and derek a disabled boy who didnt technicley do anything with the murder dies! wtf this isnt justice is INjustice and a disgrace to my nation
Heyes00 2 years ago
Albert must have been so proud of himself murdering a disabled teenager. Rot in hell all you Pierrepoint's you sick fucking low lifes !
mashamorgan 2 years ago 4