this movie looks pretty fun, based on evolution vs. creation, I like the fact that just 2 brothers made the entire thing, called EVOLUTION CREEK, look it up!
@watevyo2b8 Isn't that a non-christian thing to think? And why are you mad that he is actually educated and isn't stupid enough to refute such clear-cut evidence because of his faith?
@Geoffrobotics It is that atheists appear to think that science = everything ought to be be explained atheistically. It takes faith to believe that land mammals magically altered organs and limbs while evolving into whales. It is in no way a matter of knowledge.
@alexthasy We know evolution happens and we know how it happens. It can be demonstrated in dog breeding or in the increasing resistance of bugs to antibiotics. It can be shown in DNA sequencing and fossil evidence. There is no need for faith, only examination of evidence.
@Zythe Breeding dogs have proven to produce defective mutants and bugs increasing resistance to antibiotics is not a sign that they are evolving into something else. Looking at the mechanism of my own body I understand that it cannot be the fluke of an atheist evolutionary process.
@alexthasy wow you really need to brush up on your fossils...the whale lineage is very well understood and explicitly detailed in volumes of biological papers...whales still to this day have comparative anatomy to you and I and it just so happens that you chose to ridicule one of the most accurately documented transitional fossil forms record...you can even see the nasal cavity migrate to the central dorsal area in the transitional forms...
@cruiserhog1 The fossils are very well lined up to fit the fairytale. I am certain that if you were to put those remnants of bones back in a bag and have them reanalyzed by a group of unsuspecting paleontologists they would come up ith completely different conjectures as to how they fit in a Darwinian evolutionary genesis
And no, we don't believe that everything should be explained atheistically. We believe that everything should be explained scientifically, and our non-belief is grounded in science and the scientific method.
And no it does not take faith to believe that based on fossil records and years of observation and understanding of the evolutionary process. It does however, take much faith to believe something that has 0 empirical evidence.
@Geoffrobotics And atheists believe that science has atheistic explanations for everything. That is why it becomes contradictory when atheist theologian like Rev Richard Dawkins have to call species designoids in order to deny that they would be intelligently designed, programmed and engineered and he goes on with the asinine pretension that they are the creation of a Darwinian natural selection.
@alexthasy (1) LOL, Richard Dawkins a theologian? Nigguh please xD
You are clearly unable to make the distinction between atheistic explanations and scientific explanations. Once again I will say that atheists are not atheistic because they believe that science "has atheistic explanations", but they are atheistic because science show that things *do not require a creator to be the way they are*. It clearly displays that our environment is not one of purpose nor design.
@Geoffrobotics Rev Dawkins magnifying the myth of a Darwinian natural selection as the creator of all thing exposes him as a full fledged theologian for the pagan goddess of mother earth represented by natural selection
@Geoffrobotics You will have an eternity to discuss non-designed designoids and a shamanistic Darwinian evolutionary creation with your mentor Darwin and his apostles who refined his original hoax to make it more believable
@alexthasy (2) People used to think that "God" *personally* designed everything in our immediate surrounding. People used to (and sadly still do) believe many things without any use of the scientific method or any type of reasoning to verify or falsify any of those beliefs.
Now explain to me how describing organisms as "designoids" is contradictory to anything. The use of the name allows the uneducated to make a distinction between things that are designed and things that *appear* so
@Geoffrobotics Explain to me that peacocks, swallows or honeybees only appear to be designed, programmed and engineered and why some migratory birds that are left behind by their peers because they are not mature enough can later undergo a migration of 1000s of miles to a small island on their own without being programmed. "What is the price of two sparrows--one copper coin? But not a single sparrow can fall to the ground without your Father knowing it."
@alexthasy Oh, and I almost forgot. They did not MAGICALLY alter their organs nor their limbs. You clearly need to study biology and increase your understanding of how evolution works.
Whether or not you choose to deny the truth is up to you, but PLEASE understand that to which you are opposed.
The knowledge of science and the understanding of nature is the same for scientists who understand for example that radiation that comes from space is about 13 billions years old, and with that knowledge they can calculate and build radiation apparatus to cure cancer, also is the same understanding of nature for the science of evolution. If you don't beleive in evolution the you also must deny science that can cure your cancer.
@TheDeadlyNote This is normal that England should honour her son Darwin and his new atheistic evolutionary genesis and the great myth of natural selection he conceived to oversee the tedious billions of years shamanistic process. England is also at the origin of other fabulous tales of witchcrafts like Harry Potter.
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy (energy decay, even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY (Internet Article): Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. If universe is left to itself, all energy will become useless and the universe cannot sustain any activity. Even in an open system, there must first exist an energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order, such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit Institute for Creation Research.
WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.
EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select" traits, not produce them. If a trait survives, that survival is called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES are better explained due to a common Designer Who designed similar functions for similar purposes in the various forms of life. Genetic information can't happen by chance, so this is the best explanation. So-called junk DNA is not junk. These "non-coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (how, when, and where genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
AMINO ACIDS CAN COME BY CHANCE BUT NOT PROTEINS: Find out why. Read my Pravda Internet article: NASA, FANTASY, AND SCIENCE. Most (not all) scientists believe we're here by chance. That doesn't make the belief a scientific fact. Scientists are human and they have personal motives influencing their various beliefs concerning origins. Mathematical probability shows that it is not rational nor scientific to believe that DNA and life came about by chance. Study the evidence yourself!
THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, origin of life, etc.). Also, read my Internet article ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. In the Earth's past, powerful volcanic activity spewed life-containing dirt into space very possibly reaching Mars.
You can't just slap together bones and call it evolution, no. Evolution is real, we see it happening to this day, fossils are evidence of evolution, and certainly not of creationism.
it is non-fiction- unlike every stupid post you have made. between your prolific lies and inability to be logical- you have nothing but nonsense fantasy to present.
@inspironagain Fossils could be used to support any imaginary fairytale you could conceive. They even had land mammals magically altering organs and limbs while evolving into whales upon crossing millions of years and numerous species. You could use the same fossils to support other fairytales only by realigning them differently.
@alexthasy "Fossils could be used to support any imaginary fairytale you could conceive."
Hey, trolling ignoramus, are you aware that we can radiometrically date and DNA test fossils? THAT is why we can use it as evidence for evolution.
Of course you didn't know that. You don't know a damn thing about biology.
You are so utterly intellectually bankrupt that you think natural selection is a myth- something rarely uttered from your fellow creationists. Look up the definition of natural selection.
@alexthasy "Atheistic"? The Archbishop of Canterbury accepts the fact of evolution. As does the Pope. As does virtually every "man of god" in the UK, and the majority in the US.
@alexthasy "evolutionary process an orderly evolution of a species into something would have to be magical" Preach it brother, Gods magic is the only true magic, the magic of miracles! Evolution is a atheists fanatasy contrieved by Satan! We need to stop atheists teaching kids the theory of dinosaurs as well, GOD WOULDNT CREATE SUCH MONSTERS! Catholic state please!
@alexthasy Just because you haven't studied the subject in any depth, don't write it off as a bunch of nonsense. The problem with scientific theories is that they're too complicated for an average person to understand. The bibles version is a lot simpler, but it's also completely false.
@arminask The problem is that species adding or altering organs and limbs while evolving into something else is a shamanistic concept borrowed to ancient paganism and it has nothing to do with science.
@alexthasy ... so you're suggesting that believing a magical being whirled everything in to existence and told one guy to write a book, then said, "No no no, that won't do." and told another guy to tell other guys to write a new book to tell other people to read and believe every word of it, despite fallacy and contradiction and scientific improbability, for 2,000 years and then some mythical beast is going to rise out of the sea to kill everyone that doesn't...
There are fossils in the ground, which Evangelical Christians cite as evidence for God, that God placed them there to test their faith. If there were no fossils there, they would cite that as evidence for creationism, that there is no evidence for evolution.
@Alexthasy You are an uneducated troll. How can you deny natural selection? Creationists don't even deny natural selection! They just deny what it's capable of producing.
It's extremely intuitive. The organisms with the better overall (genetic) traits for survival within its particular environment will more easily survive and therefore reproduce, passing its traits onto offspring. Thus, there should be a "genetic shift" towards the better genetic survival traits in a species.
Anyone that is on here that is religious and confused about evolution and how it works...go research ring species for starters. Then come back and tell me what you think after. Thanks.
@alexthasy No that's what reality says. Genetics, biology, archaeology, etc. Facts are facts, sorry. You clearly don't know anything about that. Give me the outline of evolution, and it's evidence. If you know it, then explain it. Then explain how it isn't true. You can't though, because you don't know the anything about it. Funny, that you don't know the theory yet you know it's wrong. What a joke.
@alexthasy Well, it doesn't matter what belief one holds, unless of course facts
don't matter. Evolution has a ludicrous amount of evidence behind it, which is why it isn't refuted by any semi-respectable scientist, philosopher, or theologian. It is what it is, regardless of how one feels about it. Also, the origin of life is NOT included in evolution; that is separate.
@BER2ERKER That is what your Darwinian atheist shamanistic fairytale does not have is facts. If you had facts you would not have to keep sifting through dead remnants of old bone and to line them them up to fit silly preconceived bull crap tale like that of land mammals magically altering organs and limbs while evolving into whales. Someone like Rev Dawkins becomes a theologian when calling on a myth to support a miracle.
Oh, it should be noted that Judism doesnt even consider the Genesis creation story to be a factual account... And never has. Its considered to be a symbolic story that has no particular timeline and should be used to provoke deeper thought about mans origins, not taken as fact. Young earth creationism is a very new thing, less than a couple hundred years old. I just dont get it.
It used to be excorsism to "drive out demons" out of sick people. These days it's biblical literalism. Religious nuttery is a thing of all times. What's to get?
@alexthasy cont. created from dirt, and a woman from his rib (6000-10,000 years ago) is clearly a myth; it is not even possible for two people to create a population. Also, the entire creation story is in contradiction with everything we know about the earth, solar system, and universe. The only way people can believe this is by claiming that an iron-age book from the middle eastern desert trumps physical facts. Creationists actually admit this, unsurpisingly.
@BER2ERKER An environment propitious to life spontaneously setting itself and a cell magically growing organs and limbs while evolving into a species and that species further altering organs and limbs while adding accessories like feathers or hair evolving into subspecies is way more of a Shamanistic, magical fairytale to me. Would it be the brain that appeared first and it thought it would be cool to get all those goodies we are now enjoying now.
@SaulSantiagoable If you want to DERP more, Here is a predication by Darwinian atheist theologian REV Richard Dawkins on n species being designoids not intelligently designed. “Designoid objects look designed, so much so that some people – probably, alas, most people – think that they are designed. These people are wrong. . . the true explanation – Darwinian natural selection – is very different.”
@alexthasy well thats because you are, what we in medical terms calls, an idiot... a few years on uni in biology and you will eventually get it freaking right. How the hell you would think that evolution would be more magical than humans just turning up from nothing because a magical, idiotic dictator said so seems pretty magic to me.
@TheGuitaruler If not believing that land mammals altered organs and limbs while magically evolving into whales upon crossing millions of years and numerous species makes of me an idiot then so be it. I am not buying in Darwinian atheist theologian Rev Richard Dawkins bull crap that species are designoids not intelligently designed but owing their good look s to the myth of a Darwinian natural selection either. Enjoy your delusion
@alexthasy Here's a great piece of fiction. A fool who speaks several languages but has no capacity for logic. An idiot who launches endless arguments, but never, ever responds to the other side of the debate. A person who claims to love and honour God but refuses the truth , any truth, or even to find out about possibilities. A narrow minded devotee of moronism who claims to be Christian but doesn't go to church. A halfwit who abuses others but gets precious when anyone reciprocates.
A ridiculous figure who uses the same ready made arguments time and again and yet has never once actually looked into the very things he says. A clown who lies about others, lies about what people say, lies about things he says even. A jerk who appeals to logic, to truth, to God, to respect and to freedom of thought- but who is irrational, dishonest, a blasphemer, slanderous and would limit all thought to his rules.
@ozowen If you see an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God as being incapable of creating the species and the universe it is that you are an atheist. By preaching a Darwinian shamanistic myth as the author of the creation that makes you an idolater. A lie is pretending that species are designoids not intelligently designed or claiming that land mammals magically altered organs and limbs while evolving into whales. This is shamanistic bull crap
@alexthasy 1) I don't see God as incapable of this- but you know that as I have told you many times before- this is but one of your many, many lies. The evidence shows evolution happened. You just like to represent what I believe in distortion (ie; you lie)
2) I don't preach this at all. You lied also on this claim
3) "A lie is..." curiously that one is just illogical and not a lie. It is mind bogglingly stupid though. Two lies and and one bit of irrational nonsense. Well done.
@ozowen Your cult teaching of a Darwinian evolutionary genesis is an outright heresy and a clear opium for atheist. The bogus law of natural selection is its deity
@alexthasy I note once again you have lied about me, I have exposed the lie and you are totally unrepentant about lying.
Your integrity is negotiable- as you have argued previously that it is OK to behave thus when dealing with those who don't share your petty world view. So, negotiable integrity, lots of lying, failure to respond in argument.
Rather makes you a despicable character doesn't it?
@ozowen You keep burying me under your vomiting and slurs with personal attacks. I am attacking the objects of your belief and your joining with atheists blaspheming an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent creator God. Don't talk integrity, just like your father you have none.
@alexthasy Feel free to duck & weave. You just lied about me and the lie got exposed. You lie regularly about me and others, you distort what they say and never apologise for the lies.
So attacking your lack of integrity is to be expected. how about you get some integrity and I won't attack you cos you will be honest.
Not a lot happening now though, you're a liar and you love it.
@ozowen I am not ducking anything. You are the one no addressing what is so clearly exposing a Darwinian evolutionary genesis as a blatant hoax supporting itself with fabricated evidence and a bogus mythical law borrowed to ancient paganism. I am not even mentioning you, only the object of your heretic beliefs
No mate, you explain why you lied about me- just now and on previous times.
Or maybe just apologise for your dishonesty.
"I am not even mentioning you" Really? Yet you said "You seem to be preaching that believing..." Mentioned me- did not attack the "object of my supposed heretical beliefs"
or
"Don't talk integrity, just like your father you have none." Attacking me. not that I care, cos I am attacking you- not your beliefs- cos you don't account for them at all.
Instead of discussing anything you repeat things, you attack people, you run away or you lie. Your three attempts to have a debate ended with you whining and in you collapsing in a debacle of delusional diatribe.
@thegreathistorian7 Of course anyone that would not believe that species are designoids not intelligently designed as preached by the most reverend atheist theologian Richard Dawkins or that the myth of natural selection is not behind the creation of peacocks or other species ought to be a TROLL. Enjoy your delusion, I just hope that you will die in peace fully comforted by your atheistic fantasm.
@alexthasy argumentum ad ignorantiam, onus probandi and moving the goalposts? Also you clearly do not understand the theory of evolution nor do you grasp how the issue has no bearing on the claim of a deity (effectively Red Herring).
How much fallacy do you want to pack into one paragraph?
@alexthasy You just revealed your reason for your wish-thinking nonsense. You are scared of dying and wish to believe in anything that will take that fear away. Quite reasonable thing to try to do, but unfortunately for you, we are now in the 21st century and your scriptures have been shown to contain many many holes and contradictions. You will have to find a new way to console yourself!
@alexthasy Well then lets disscuss your omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent entity or (God) if you would like to call it that. Did this entity create everything?
-If you feel so strongly then try to just back away form the character. It is really bad to be pulled in by negativity if you feel such. I mean just reading a few of your commnents did not read the rest in detail, I view behavior like this from both sides in its really not a you and your side only does this so no one can claim morally superior ground. Any way best of luck
@alexthasy "land mammals magically altered organs and limbs while evolving into whales." Agreed, how can people believe in evolution? The idea of organisms biologically adapting to the environment thru natural laws is absurd. All this scientific evolutionary "evidence" is a conspiracy. Fossils, the anatomical record, artificial selection observation, the molecular record, this "evidence" was planted by Darwinian's & Satan. The fact the theory of "dinosaurs" has been accepted disgusts me
@alexthasy I like the "if" in "If you see an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God". Very revealing. But then, you don't have to see anything to believe it dso you, much less and evidence. Faith is enough for your unquestioning uncritical brain. Lazy.....and probably wrong.
@alexthasy No magic is involved; in fact it's quite simple, once you have an understanding of it. Natural Selection is specific in how it operates. Let's grant that it's "magic". Evolution by "magic", given that the age of the earth is irrefutable and in the billions of years (the age of the sun, 4.65 billion years, easily tells us the age of the earth as well, and the dating of the sun is extremely accurate), is still way more believable and probable than the myths of creation. A man being cre
So why is it that so many people cant reconcile their religious beliefs with scientific theory? How does evolution somehow invalidate God? A Jewish religious leader puts on paper a semi-symbolic creation mythos and then its set in stone for an eternity? Really? The same guy actually set some things in stone for eternity(The Ten Comandments), but if you are Christian you dont follow those exactly either, since Christ decided they were a bit to old fashioned and updated them.
@alexthasy Since the almighty aparently decided that living things needed to evolve and change over time (of which there is immense evidence supporting that it does), I am not about to tell God that I think his design philosophy is a bunch of crap and I dont believe in it. Living things change through breeding, mutation, natural selection and several other factors. Deny this, and you are basically denying the process of life. Deny the process of life and you deny God.
@daolong51279 I don't believe in natural selection as a creative power that would have led monkeys into evolving into men since there are no apes that are showing any signs of being evolving into men. All you have is conjectural tales supported by remnant of dead bones or fabulating on part of species anatomy you deem vestigial. I see only species identifying and reproducing each in its own seed
There are no scientists anywhere, anytime, none, who said that monkeys or apes evolved into men. So you're lying when you put that one forth, because no scientist ever said that and no teacher ever taught that. Don't use incorrect assertions like that--it makes you look silly.
Apes and man share a COMMON ANCESTOR. Repeat it until it sinks in. Clearly no-one taught you science, or you didn't understand it.
@MadHighway The new conjecture is that we share a common ancestry with the ape which would mean that there was at one time a creature that was half monkey half man and that it would now be extinct. The fairytale of an evolutionary genesis has been revamped many times. Darwinian atheist theologian contributed to its canons by saying that species are designoids that are not intelligently designed but that would rather owe their designing to the myth of natural selection.
@alexthasy "The new conjecture is that we share a common ancestry"
No, that's a lie from you again. The concept has ALWAYS been that man and apes share a common ancestor. Again: nobody anywhere, any time, said humans came from monkeys. Your discrediting tactics fail.
Again, again, again, there is NO DESIGN.
The "new conjecture" was around long before your 1950s birthdate. Surprising that you're from Canada, too.
@MadHighway That we share a common ancestry with apes is entirely conjectural and again if evolution were an ongoing process there would still be apes engaged in becoming humans. There are not and there has never been. Here goes your atheistic dream that death should be final.
No, common ancestry is proven, not conjecture anymore, and it's been proven for a long time.
Nobody anywhere, any time, said apes would evolve into humans; that's either another patent lie on your part, or you are just being willfully contrarian.
The common ancestor from many millions of years ago evolved into different species: humans, and chimpanzees. Chimps are not 'behind' us, and we're not 'ahead' of them; the two species evolved from the same ancestor.
@MadHighway It is your religious right to believe that an ancient ape branched into humanoids and different species of monkeys. I am still convince that species do not have the shamanistic, magical ability to alter organs and limbs while evolving into something else. I would like you to respect my freedom not to believe in the myth of natural selection as the creator of all things.
It's NOT your right to say I'm religious, because I'm not, and I've said so.
There is no shaman (I don't think you even understand that word), no magic, and no design, but there is plenty of confirmation--which you ignore.
Did you even go to college? How far is your education?
You don't have the right to call evolution a religion, or myth, or a creator. You're patently wrong to do so, and you are being automatically condescending to everyone in posting your criticisms.
@srexob715 Well. You can't say trolling is ignorant if it's on purpose. Though there is a lot of alleged trolling in defense of ignorance as well as people confusing stupidity with trolling or using 'prank' interchangeably. I've seen some mighty fine trolling, though typically it is on a grander scale with more to bear witness to their own gullibility. This person, no, this person is frantically fighting to defend an indefensible position. Believe it or not, people are this stupid and smug.
@alexthasy How ironic, you are insulting natural selection for having "magical abilities", remind us what kind abilities your deity has again? Seriously though, there is nothing magical about mutation, it's a fact of life. Look around you, notice how everyone is physically different? Why only some can be super athletes? How some babies are born with more or less fingers and toes or why we still have vestigial organs? Welcome to the 21st century, try and keep up.
@mar504 I am not insulting the myth of natural selection and her shamanistic ability to be at the origin of the species. I am just retracing her origin in ancient paganism where she was called the goddess of Mother Earth. Your conjectural bull crap about species being self-programmed to magically evolved into something else is purely poor sciencefiction. Species are barely programmed to maintain a high level of genetic excellence. You are not a TROLL, just a deluded dude
@mar504 I am not insulting the myth of natural selection and her shamanistic ability to be at the origin of the species. I am just retracing her origin in ancient paganism where she was called the goddess of Mother Earth. Your conjectural bull crap about species being self-programmed to magically evolved into something else is purely poor sciencefiction. Species are barely programmed to maintain a high level of genetic excellence. You are not a TROLL, just a deluded dude
@alexthasy Maybe you didnt pick it up, but I dont completely discount creationist principles. I also dont think that the evolution theory is completely on target. However, I think that teaching creationism and intellegent design in public schools is the worst thing we could do to our children. They apparently are already getting enough of it at home, and force feeding religion to children should not be the job of the state. Evolution is not a religion, its a scientific theory, get it straight.
@MitchofSmeg To say that I don't believe in evolution is more accurate. Evolutionists always try to dodge the fact that if evolution were an ongoing process there would still be apes evolving into men or other species caught in a transitional process. Fairy tales of land mammals altering organs and limbs while evolving into whales and supported by remnant of dead bones are not even poor science fiction.
@alexthasy all species are in a transitional process, lol. I mean hell, we have the full records of the modern horse going back. Or what about dogs, which are bred to have specific characteristics, thats evolution which is man made, why cant that happen in the wild?
BTw, it takes a huge quantity of time to see any significant change usually, but there is a river in africa called the Congo.
Oh, and there were multiple human like/ape like species that evolved,only humans suvived it.
@alexthasy You twist a hebrew creation myth into something it is not and you dare call evolution fantasy and fairy tales? Do you even know where your misguided beliefs come from? By the way, there is a species of shark that changes its internal organs half way through its life span. Its called a Bull shark, and it goes from a fresh water respiratory system to a salt water system when it gets to big for rivers. Magic I tell you.
@alexthasy Jeez get a life, thanks to your excessive posting I can´t find my comment! Oh, before i go I just want to confront you with one fact: Most people who accept evolution are christians! Bye moron!
Hahaha :D
I like this guy. His religion, not so much, but his personality seems quite developed and, frankly, great.
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@Geoffrobotics You have no idea on how asinine the concept of designoids being non-designed, non-programmed and non-engineered entities is.
You are a first class sucker and you have no shortage of remnants of dead bones to suck on. Drink a lot while sucking, those suckers are quite dry.
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this movie looks pretty fun, based on evolution vs. creation, I like the fact that just 2 brothers made the entire thing, called EVOLUTION CREEK, look it up!
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beautiful articulation!
subh1 3 hours ago
What a fuckin Boss Priest. "I'm sorry did the lady want to carry on speaking?" LOL!
HansonjSolo 8 hours ago 2
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@Ellie8969 Under an atheistic evolutionary process an orderly evolution of a species into something else would have to be magical
alexthasy 8 hours ago
i want to punch him soooooooo bad
watevyo2b8 8 hours ago
@watevyo2b8 Isn't that a non-christian thing to think? And why are you mad that he is actually educated and isn't stupid enough to refute such clear-cut evidence because of his faith?
Geoffrobotics 7 hours ago
@Geoffrobotics It is that atheists appear to think that science = everything ought to be be explained atheistically. It takes faith to believe that land mammals magically altered organs and limbs while evolving into whales. It is in no way a matter of knowledge.
alexthasy 7 hours ago
@alexthasy We know evolution happens and we know how it happens. It can be demonstrated in dog breeding or in the increasing resistance of bugs to antibiotics. It can be shown in DNA sequencing and fossil evidence. There is no need for faith, only examination of evidence.
Zythe 7 hours ago
@Zythe Breeding dogs have proven to produce defective mutants and bugs increasing resistance to antibiotics is not a sign that they are evolving into something else. Looking at the mechanism of my own body I understand that it cannot be the fluke of an atheist evolutionary process.
alexthasy 5 hours ago
@alexthasy wow you really need to brush up on your fossils...the whale lineage is very well understood and explicitly detailed in volumes of biological papers...whales still to this day have comparative anatomy to you and I and it just so happens that you chose to ridicule one of the most accurately documented transitional fossil forms record...you can even see the nasal cavity migrate to the central dorsal area in the transitional forms...
cruiserhog1 7 hours ago
@cruiserhog1 The fossils are very well lined up to fit the fairytale. I am certain that if you were to put those remnants of bones back in a bag and have them reanalyzed by a group of unsuspecting paleontologists they would come up ith completely different conjectures as to how they fit in a Darwinian evolutionary genesis
alexthasy 5 hours ago
@alexthasy Erm... you used the "=" incorrectly.
And no, we don't believe that everything should be explained atheistically. We believe that everything should be explained scientifically, and our non-belief is grounded in science and the scientific method.
And no it does not take faith to believe that based on fossil records and years of observation and understanding of the evolutionary process. It does however, take much faith to believe something that has 0 empirical evidence.
Geoffrobotics 6 hours ago
@Geoffrobotics And atheists believe that science has atheistic explanations for everything. That is why it becomes contradictory when atheist theologian like Rev Richard Dawkins have to call species designoids in order to deny that they would be intelligently designed, programmed and engineered and he goes on with the asinine pretension that they are the creation of a Darwinian natural selection.
alexthasy 5 hours ago
@alexthasy (1) LOL, Richard Dawkins a theologian? Nigguh please xD
You are clearly unable to make the distinction between atheistic explanations and scientific explanations. Once again I will say that atheists are not atheistic because they believe that science "has atheistic explanations", but they are atheistic because science show that things *do not require a creator to be the way they are*. It clearly displays that our environment is not one of purpose nor design.
Geoffrobotics 5 hours ago
@Geoffrobotics Rev Dawkins magnifying the myth of a Darwinian natural selection as the creator of all thing exposes him as a full fledged theologian for the pagan goddess of mother earth represented by natural selection
alexthasy 4 hours ago
@alexthasy You are clearly quite deluded and a pathetic waste of my time. Good bye.
Geoffrobotics 2 hours ago
@Geoffrobotics You will have an eternity to discuss non-designed designoids and a shamanistic Darwinian evolutionary creation with your mentor Darwin and his apostles who refined his original hoax to make it more believable
alexthasy 2 hours ago
@alexthasy You have no idea how ironic (not to mention stupid) that reply was.
Anyways....
Cool story bro.
Geoffrobotics 1 hour ago
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alexthasy 1 hour ago
@alexthasy (2) People used to think that "God" *personally* designed everything in our immediate surrounding. People used to (and sadly still do) believe many things without any use of the scientific method or any type of reasoning to verify or falsify any of those beliefs.
Now explain to me how describing organisms as "designoids" is contradictory to anything. The use of the name allows the uneducated to make a distinction between things that are designed and things that *appear* so
Geoffrobotics 5 hours ago
@Geoffrobotics Explain to me that peacocks, swallows or honeybees only appear to be designed, programmed and engineered and why some migratory birds that are left behind by their peers because they are not mature enough can later undergo a migration of 1000s of miles to a small island on their own without being programmed. "What is the price of two sparrows--one copper coin? But not a single sparrow can fall to the ground without your Father knowing it."
alexthasy 4 hours ago
@alexthasy Oh, and I almost forgot. They did not MAGICALLY alter their organs nor their limbs. You clearly need to study biology and increase your understanding of how evolution works.
Whether or not you choose to deny the truth is up to you, but PLEASE understand that to which you are opposed.
Geoffrobotics 6 hours ago
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The knowledge of science and the understanding of nature is the same for scientists who understand for example that radiation that comes from space is about 13 billions years old, and with that knowledge they can calculate and build radiation apparatus to cure cancer, also is the same understanding of nature for the science of evolution. If you don't beleive in evolution the you also must deny science that can cure your cancer.
matforsbon 8 hours ago
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These two branches of science and understanding of nature are inseparable.
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matforsbon 8 hours ago
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beiggo 10 hours ago
I was too busy staring at the hot latino in the back, what was the old guy saying?
shooterb0y23 16 hours ago
@shooterb0y23 latino? this is england not south america
TheDeadlyNote 14 hours ago
@TheDeadlyNote Oh well excuse my ignorance but the fact of the matter is I find her attractive, now good day sir.
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I SAID GOOD DAY!
shooterb0y23 11 hours ago
@TheDeadlyNote This is normal that England should honour her son Darwin and his new atheistic evolutionary genesis and the great myth of natural selection he conceived to oversee the tedious billions of years shamanistic process. England is also at the origin of other fabulous tales of witchcrafts like Harry Potter.
alexthasy 10 hours ago
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy (energy decay, even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY (Internet Article): Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. If universe is left to itself, all energy will become useless and the universe cannot sustain any activity. Even in an open system, there must first exist an energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order, such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit Institute for Creation Research.
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select" traits, not produce them. If a trait survives, that survival is called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES are better explained due to a common Designer Who designed similar functions for similar purposes in the various forms of life. Genetic information can't happen by chance, so this is the best explanation. So-called junk DNA is not junk. These "non-coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (how, when, and where genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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AMINO ACIDS CAN COME BY CHANCE BUT NOT PROTEINS: Find out why. Read my Pravda Internet article: NASA, FANTASY, AND SCIENCE. Most (not all) scientists believe we're here by chance. That doesn't make the belief a scientific fact. Scientists are human and they have personal motives influencing their various beliefs concerning origins. Mathematical probability shows that it is not rational nor scientific to believe that DNA and life came about by chance. Study the evidence yourself!
Mogley52 16 hours ago
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THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, origin of life, etc.). Also, read my Internet article ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. In the Earth's past, powerful volcanic activity spewed life-containing dirt into space very possibly reaching Mars.
Mogley52 16 hours ago
Fucking brilliant
KeithUnderneath 18 hours ago
You can't just slap together bones and call it evolution, no. Evolution is real, we see it happening to this day, fossils are evidence of evolution, and certainly not of creationism.
inspironagain 19 hours ago
YES! What a brave man.
guymedia2012 19 hours ago
I clicked the video to look at the girls behind him.
supadox 1 day ago
Reading the comments makes me mourn for humanity. There are too many people who can't differentiate fantasy from reality.
Y2KillerSPOOBLY 1 day ago
@Y2KillerSPOOBLY You are not the only one. Go and watch the land mammals magically evolving into whales video. It is presented as non-fiction
alexthasy 1 day ago
@alexthasy
it is non-fiction- unlike every stupid post you have made. between your prolific lies and inability to be logical- you have nothing but nonsense fantasy to present.
ozowen 1 day ago
@alexthasy I'm confused. Why shouldn't fossils be used as evidence of evolution?
inspironagain 1 day ago
@inspironagain Fossils could be used to support any imaginary fairytale you could conceive. They even had land mammals magically altering organs and limbs while evolving into whales upon crossing millions of years and numerous species. You could use the same fossils to support other fairytales only by realigning them differently.
alexthasy 1 day ago 4
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@alexthasy "Fossils could be used to support any imaginary fairytale you could conceive."
Hey, trolling ignoramus, are you aware that we can radiometrically date and DNA test fossils? THAT is why we can use it as evidence for evolution.
Of course you didn't know that. You don't know a damn thing about biology.
You are so utterly intellectually bankrupt that you think natural selection is a myth- something rarely uttered from your fellow creationists. Look up the definition of natural selection.
steviej321 1 day ago 2
@alexthasy That this spectacularly ignorant comment has managed to meet the approval of 5 other people makes me want to cry.
"Magically altering organs"? Is being this fucking stupid something you need to practice, or is it an innate ability?
Ellie8969 9 hours ago
@Ellie8969 Under an atheistic evolutionary process an orderly evolution of a species into something would have to be magical
alexthasy 9 hours ago
@alexthasy "Atheistic"? The Archbishop of Canterbury accepts the fact of evolution. As does the Pope. As does virtually every "man of god" in the UK, and the majority in the US.
Know why? Because it's a fact. Grow up.
Ellie8969 9 hours ago
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@alexthasy "evolutionary process an orderly evolution of a species into something would have to be magical" Preach it brother, Gods magic is the only true magic, the magic of miracles! Evolution is a atheists fanatasy contrieved by Satan! We need to stop atheists teaching kids the theory of dinosaurs as well, GOD WOULDNT CREATE SUCH MONSTERS! Catholic state please!
NerdySabbath 6 hours ago
@alexthasy Just because you haven't studied the subject in any depth, don't write it off as a bunch of nonsense. The problem with scientific theories is that they're too complicated for an average person to understand. The bibles version is a lot simpler, but it's also completely false.
arminask 8 hours ago
@arminask The problem is that species adding or altering organs and limbs while evolving into something else is a shamanistic concept borrowed to ancient paganism and it has nothing to do with science.
alexthasy 8 hours ago
@alexthasy ... so you're suggesting that believing a magical being whirled everything in to existence and told one guy to write a book, then said, "No no no, that won't do." and told another guy to tell other guys to write a new book to tell other people to read and believe every word of it, despite fallacy and contradiction and scientific improbability, for 2,000 years and then some mythical beast is going to rise out of the sea to kill everyone that doesn't...
.. that's scientific?
Geoffrobotics 8 hours ago
@alexthasy As religious people do......!
sids500 8 hours ago
anyone know where to get the full debate? The link was taken down.
12connor213 1 day ago
Yes, very well said, if all theists were like him then there wouldn't be such a problem.
atheistscepticism 1 day ago
There are fossils in the ground, which Evangelical Christians cite as evidence for God, that God placed them there to test their faith. If there were no fossils there, they would cite that as evidence for creationism, that there is no evidence for evolution.
-Pulls hair out-
inspironagain 1 day ago
@inspironagain There are remnants of dead bones that evolutionists are piecing together in order to support their evolutionary fairytales.
alexthasy 1 day ago
@Alexthasy You are an uneducated troll. How can you deny natural selection? Creationists don't even deny natural selection! They just deny what it's capable of producing.
It's extremely intuitive. The organisms with the better overall (genetic) traits for survival within its particular environment will more easily survive and therefore reproduce, passing its traits onto offspring. Thus, there should be a "genetic shift" towards the better genetic survival traits in a species.
It's a no-brainer!
steviej321 1 day ago
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alexthasy 1 day ago
The priest never did mock creationism. He simply respects the evidence that been handed down to him.
PokkiTube 1 day ago
the lady lol
AmericanCritiquer 1 day ago
I was hoping to see a priest mocking creationism.
Casarzino 1 day ago
@Casarzino he did
cropathfinder 1 day ago
The Earth is Flat, based on the backs of four giant elephants standing on a giant turtle... Or was it the other way around? ^^
K1b4m4ru 2 days ago
@K1b4m4ru And occasionally an elephant has to lift it's leg to let the sun go past. :D
MedionSinger 1 day ago 3
And the pope is busy fucking kids.
CeeL33T 2 days ago
Anyone that is on here that is religious and confused about evolution and how it works...go research ring species for starters. Then come back and tell me what you think after. Thanks.
b24harman 2 days ago
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alexthasy 2 days ago
An analogy isn't a straw man argument.
wutdaFU3K 2 days ago
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Djentard 2 days ago
@Djentard Now that is unexpected...
ptango666 2 days ago
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Djentard 2 days ago
I say we are going to rid the world of theism
thebeaterz16 2 days ago
@thebeaterz16 I wish!
tpr007 2 days ago
BUT THAT'S WHAT RELIGION DOES!!!
fglp666 2 days ago
@alexthasy No that's what reality says. Genetics, biology, archaeology, etc. Facts are facts, sorry. You clearly don't know anything about that. Give me the outline of evolution, and it's evidence. If you know it, then explain it. Then explain how it isn't true. You can't though, because you don't know the anything about it. Funny, that you don't know the theory yet you know it's wrong. What a joke.
BER2ERKER 2 days ago
@alexthasy Well, it doesn't matter what belief one holds, unless of course facts
don't matter. Evolution has a ludicrous amount of evidence behind it, which is why it isn't refuted by any semi-respectable scientist, philosopher, or theologian. It is what it is, regardless of how one feels about it. Also, the origin of life is NOT included in evolution; that is separate.
BER2ERKER 3 days ago
@BER2ERKER That is what your Darwinian atheist shamanistic fairytale does not have is facts. If you had facts you would not have to keep sifting through dead remnants of old bone and to line them them up to fit silly preconceived bull crap tale like that of land mammals magically altering organs and limbs while evolving into whales. Someone like Rev Dawkins becomes a theologian when calling on a myth to support a miracle.
alexthasy 2 days ago
Oh, it should be noted that Judism doesnt even consider the Genesis creation story to be a factual account... And never has. Its considered to be a symbolic story that has no particular timeline and should be used to provoke deeper thought about mans origins, not taken as fact. Young earth creationism is a very new thing, less than a couple hundred years old. I just dont get it.
daolong51279 3 days ago
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"I just dont get it."
It used to be excorsism to "drive out demons" out of sick people. These days it's biblical literalism. Religious nuttery is a thing of all times. What's to get?
MrGralgrathor 2 days ago
@alexthasy cont. created from dirt, and a woman from his rib (6000-10,000 years ago) is clearly a myth; it is not even possible for two people to create a population. Also, the entire creation story is in contradiction with everything we know about the earth, solar system, and universe. The only way people can believe this is by claiming that an iron-age book from the middle eastern desert trumps physical facts. Creationists actually admit this, unsurpisingly.
BER2ERKER 3 days ago
@BER2ERKER An environment propitious to life spontaneously setting itself and a cell magically growing organs and limbs while evolving into a species and that species further altering organs and limbs while adding accessories like feathers or hair evolving into subspecies is way more of a Shamanistic, magical fairytale to me. Would it be the brain that appeared first and it thought it would be cool to get all those goodies we are now enjoying now.
alexthasy 3 days ago 4
@alexthasy lol, derp
SaulSantiagoable 1 day ago
@SaulSantiagoable If you want to DERP more, Here is a predication by Darwinian atheist theologian REV Richard Dawkins on n species being designoids not intelligently designed. “Designoid objects look designed, so much so that some people – probably, alas, most people – think that they are designed. These people are wrong. . . the true explanation – Darwinian natural selection – is very different.”
alexthasy 1 day ago
@alexthasy well thats because you are, what we in medical terms calls, an idiot... a few years on uni in biology and you will eventually get it freaking right. How the hell you would think that evolution would be more magical than humans just turning up from nothing because a magical, idiotic dictator said so seems pretty magic to me.
TheGuitaruler 1 day ago
@TheGuitaruler If not believing that land mammals altered organs and limbs while magically evolving into whales upon crossing millions of years and numerous species makes of me an idiot then so be it. I am not buying in Darwinian atheist theologian Rev Richard Dawkins bull crap that species are designoids not intelligently designed but owing their good look s to the myth of a Darwinian natural selection either. Enjoy your delusion
alexthasy 1 day ago
@alexthasy We certainly enjoy your delusion alexliar. Your irrational fantasies and lies are very entertaining.
ozowen 1 day ago
@ozowen I am not sure that your land mammals evolving into whales fantasies can be rivaled in the world of fiction.
alexthasy 1 day ago
@alexthasy Here's a great piece of fiction. A fool who speaks several languages but has no capacity for logic. An idiot who launches endless arguments, but never, ever responds to the other side of the debate. A person who claims to love and honour God but refuses the truth , any truth, or even to find out about possibilities. A narrow minded devotee of moronism who claims to be Christian but doesn't go to church. A halfwit who abuses others but gets precious when anyone reciprocates.
ozowen 1 day ago
@alexthasy
A ridiculous figure who uses the same ready made arguments time and again and yet has never once actually looked into the very things he says. A clown who lies about others, lies about what people say, lies about things he says even. A jerk who appeals to logic, to truth, to God, to respect and to freedom of thought- but who is irrational, dishonest, a blasphemer, slanderous and would limit all thought to his rules.
That fiction is you alexthasy.
ozowen 1 day ago
@ozowen If you see an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God as being incapable of creating the species and the universe it is that you are an atheist. By preaching a Darwinian shamanistic myth as the author of the creation that makes you an idolater. A lie is pretending that species are designoids not intelligently designed or claiming that land mammals magically altered organs and limbs while evolving into whales. This is shamanistic bull crap
alexthasy 1 day ago
@alexthasy 1) I don't see God as incapable of this- but you know that as I have told you many times before- this is but one of your many, many lies. The evidence shows evolution happened. You just like to represent what I believe in distortion (ie; you lie)
2) I don't preach this at all. You lied also on this claim
3) "A lie is..." curiously that one is just illogical and not a lie. It is mind bogglingly stupid though. Two lies and and one bit of irrational nonsense. Well done.
ozowen 1 day ago
@ozowen Your cult teaching of a Darwinian evolutionary genesis is an outright heresy and a clear opium for atheist. The bogus law of natural selection is its deity
alexthasy 1 day ago
@alexthasy I note once again you have lied about me, I have exposed the lie and you are totally unrepentant about lying.
Your integrity is negotiable- as you have argued previously that it is OK to behave thus when dealing with those who don't share your petty world view. So, negotiable integrity, lots of lying, failure to respond in argument.
Rather makes you a despicable character doesn't it?
ozowen 1 day ago
@ozowen You keep burying me under your vomiting and slurs with personal attacks. I am attacking the objects of your belief and your joining with atheists blaspheming an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent creator God. Don't talk integrity, just like your father you have none.
alexthasy 1 day ago
@alexthasy Feel free to duck & weave. You just lied about me and the lie got exposed. You lie regularly about me and others, you distort what they say and never apologise for the lies.
So attacking your lack of integrity is to be expected. how about you get some integrity and I won't attack you cos you will be honest.
Not a lot happening now though, you're a liar and you love it.
ozowen 1 day ago
@ozowen I am not ducking anything. You are the one no addressing what is so clearly exposing a Darwinian evolutionary genesis as a blatant hoax supporting itself with fabricated evidence and a bogus mythical law borrowed to ancient paganism. I am not even mentioning you, only the object of your heretic beliefs
alexthasy 1 day ago
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@alexthasy
No mate, you explain why you lied about me- just now and on previous times.
Or maybe just apologise for your dishonesty.
"I am not even mentioning you" Really? Yet you said "You seem to be preaching that believing..." Mentioned me- did not attack the "object of my supposed heretical beliefs"
or
"Don't talk integrity, just like your father you have none." Attacking me. not that I care, cos I am attacking you- not your beliefs- cos you don't account for them at all.
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@alexthasy
Instead of discussing anything you repeat things, you attack people, you run away or you lie. Your three attempts to have a debate ended with you whining and in you collapsing in a debacle of delusional diatribe.
ozowen 1 day ago
@alexthasy Dumb ass troll alert!
srexob715 18 hours ago
@alexthasy are you some kind of Super Troll?
:motherofgod:
thegreathistorian7 17 hours ago
@thegreathistorian7 Of course anyone that would not believe that species are designoids not intelligently designed as preached by the most reverend atheist theologian Richard Dawkins or that the myth of natural selection is not behind the creation of peacocks or other species ought to be a TROLL. Enjoy your delusion, I just hope that you will die in peace fully comforted by your atheistic fantasm.
alexthasy 10 hours ago
@alexthasy argumentum ad ignorantiam, onus probandi and moving the goalposts? Also you clearly do not understand the theory of evolution nor do you grasp how the issue has no bearing on the claim of a deity (effectively Red Herring).
How much fallacy do you want to pack into one paragraph?
thegreathistorian7 9 hours ago
@alexthasy You just revealed your reason for your wish-thinking nonsense. You are scared of dying and wish to believe in anything that will take that fear away. Quite reasonable thing to try to do, but unfortunately for you, we are now in the 21st century and your scriptures have been shown to contain many many holes and contradictions. You will have to find a new way to console yourself!
sids500 8 hours ago
@alexthasy Well then lets disscuss your omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent entity or (God) if you would like to call it that. Did this entity create everything?
rembrant1vanryn 16 hours ago
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@rembrant1vanryn It is either the myth of natural selection or an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent entity or (God) who created the species.
alexthasy 10 hours ago
@ozowen You seem to be preaching that believing in Darwin and his apostles is essential for salvation.
alexthasy 1 day ago
@ozowen
-If you feel so strongly then try to just back away form the character. It is really bad to be pulled in by negativity if you feel such. I mean just reading a few of your commnents did not read the rest in detail, I view behavior like this from both sides in its really not a you and your side only does this so no one can claim morally superior ground. Any way best of luck
Ryukikon 19 hours ago
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@alexthasy "land mammals magically altered organs and limbs while evolving into whales." Agreed, how can people believe in evolution? The idea of organisms biologically adapting to the environment thru natural laws is absurd. All this scientific evolutionary "evidence" is a conspiracy. Fossils, the anatomical record, artificial selection observation, the molecular record, this "evidence" was planted by Darwinian's & Satan. The fact the theory of "dinosaurs" has been accepted disgusts me
NerdySabbath 1 day ago
@alexthasy I like the "if" in "If you see an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God". Very revealing. But then, you don't have to see anything to believe it dso you, much less and evidence. Faith is enough for your unquestioning uncritical brain. Lazy.....and probably wrong.
sids500 8 hours ago
@alexthasy Bravo!! Bravo!!!
twowitnessesoftheson 1 day ago
@alexthasy No magic is involved; in fact it's quite simple, once you have an understanding of it. Natural Selection is specific in how it operates. Let's grant that it's "magic". Evolution by "magic", given that the age of the earth is irrefutable and in the billions of years (the age of the sun, 4.65 billion years, easily tells us the age of the earth as well, and the dating of the sun is extremely accurate), is still way more believable and probable than the myths of creation. A man being cre
BER2ERKER 3 days ago
he did not mock creationism... lol atheists always take shit out of context
MaaNonu123 3 days ago
@MaaNonu123 Think you must have been watching something else?
sids500 8 hours ago
So why is it that so many people cant reconcile their religious beliefs with scientific theory? How does evolution somehow invalidate God? A Jewish religious leader puts on paper a semi-symbolic creation mythos and then its set in stone for an eternity? Really? The same guy actually set some things in stone for eternity(The Ten Comandments), but if you are Christian you dont follow those exactly either, since Christ decided they were a bit to old fashioned and updated them.
daolong51279 3 days ago
@daolong51279 Interesting that Darwin would be a prophet sent by the gods to unite both theists and atheists under the truth of evolution.
alexthasy 3 days ago
@alexthasy Since the almighty aparently decided that living things needed to evolve and change over time (of which there is immense evidence supporting that it does), I am not about to tell God that I think his design philosophy is a bunch of crap and I dont believe in it. Living things change through breeding, mutation, natural selection and several other factors. Deny this, and you are basically denying the process of life. Deny the process of life and you deny God.
daolong51279 3 days ago
@daolong51279 I don't believe in natural selection as a creative power that would have led monkeys into evolving into men since there are no apes that are showing any signs of being evolving into men. All you have is conjectural tales supported by remnant of dead bones or fabulating on part of species anatomy you deem vestigial. I see only species identifying and reproducing each in its own seed
alexthasy 3 days ago
@alexthasy
There are no scientists anywhere, anytime, none, who said that monkeys or apes evolved into men. So you're lying when you put that one forth, because no scientist ever said that and no teacher ever taught that. Don't use incorrect assertions like that--it makes you look silly.
Apes and man share a COMMON ANCESTOR. Repeat it until it sinks in. Clearly no-one taught you science, or you didn't understand it.
MadHighway 3 days ago
@MadHighway The new conjecture is that we share a common ancestry with the ape which would mean that there was at one time a creature that was half monkey half man and that it would now be extinct. The fairytale of an evolutionary genesis has been revamped many times. Darwinian atheist theologian contributed to its canons by saying that species are designoids that are not intelligently designed but that would rather owe their designing to the myth of natural selection.
alexthasy 3 days ago
@alexthasy "The new conjecture is that we share a common ancestry"
No, that's a lie from you again. The concept has ALWAYS been that man and apes share a common ancestor. Again: nobody anywhere, any time, said humans came from monkeys. Your discrediting tactics fail.
Again, again, again, there is NO DESIGN.
The "new conjecture" was around long before your 1950s birthdate. Surprising that you're from Canada, too.
MadHighway 2 days ago
@MadHighway That we share a common ancestry with apes is entirely conjectural and again if evolution were an ongoing process there would still be apes engaged in becoming humans. There are not and there has never been. Here goes your atheistic dream that death should be final.
alexthasy 2 days ago
@alexthasy
No, common ancestry is proven, not conjecture anymore, and it's been proven for a long time.
Nobody anywhere, any time, said apes would evolve into humans; that's either another patent lie on your part, or you are just being willfully contrarian.
The common ancestor from many millions of years ago evolved into different species: humans, and chimpanzees. Chimps are not 'behind' us, and we're not 'ahead' of them; the two species evolved from the same ancestor.
MadHighway 2 days ago
@MadHighway It is your religious right to believe that an ancient ape branched into humanoids and different species of monkeys. I am still convince that species do not have the shamanistic, magical ability to alter organs and limbs while evolving into something else. I would like you to respect my freedom not to believe in the myth of natural selection as the creator of all things.
alexthasy 2 days ago
@alexthasy
It's NOT your right to say I'm religious, because I'm not, and I've said so.
There is no shaman (I don't think you even understand that word), no magic, and no design, but there is plenty of confirmation--which you ignore.
Did you even go to college? How far is your education?
You don't have the right to call evolution a religion, or myth, or a creator. You're patently wrong to do so, and you are being automatically condescending to everyone in posting your criticisms.
MadHighway 2 days ago
@MadHighway Did you even go to college? How far is your education?"
He's trolling. Stupidity and trolling look very similar, for both are ignorant. One is just doing on purpose, while the other one can't help it.
srexob715 2 days ago
@srexob715 Well. You can't say trolling is ignorant if it's on purpose. Though there is a lot of alleged trolling in defense of ignorance as well as people confusing stupidity with trolling or using 'prank' interchangeably. I've seen some mighty fine trolling, though typically it is on a grander scale with more to bear witness to their own gullibility. This person, no, this person is frantically fighting to defend an indefensible position. Believe it or not, people are this stupid and smug.
KillaTequilla83 1 day ago
@alexthasy "an ancient ape branched into humanoids"
You ALMOST have it. The ancient species wasn't an ape--it was an ancestor common to humans and apes, but it was NOT an ape.
Either it was a a mistake in perception on your part or a cleverly-worded evasion, but I caught it.
MadHighway 2 days ago
@alexthasy How ironic, you are insulting natural selection for having "magical abilities", remind us what kind abilities your deity has again? Seriously though, there is nothing magical about mutation, it's a fact of life. Look around you, notice how everyone is physically different? Why only some can be super athletes? How some babies are born with more or less fingers and toes or why we still have vestigial organs? Welcome to the 21st century, try and keep up.
mar504 1 day ago
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@mar504 I am not insulting the myth of natural selection and her shamanistic ability to be at the origin of the species. I am just retracing her origin in ancient paganism where she was called the goddess of Mother Earth. Your conjectural bull crap about species being self-programmed to magically evolved into something else is purely poor sciencefiction. Species are barely programmed to maintain a high level of genetic excellence. You are not a TROLL, just a deluded dude
alexthasy 1 day ago
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@mar504 I am not insulting the myth of natural selection and her shamanistic ability to be at the origin of the species. I am just retracing her origin in ancient paganism where she was called the goddess of Mother Earth. Your conjectural bull crap about species being self-programmed to magically evolved into something else is purely poor sciencefiction. Species are barely programmed to maintain a high level of genetic excellence. You are not a TROLL, just a deluded dude
alexthasy 10 hours ago
@alexthasy Maybe you didnt pick it up, but I dont completely discount creationist principles. I also dont think that the evolution theory is completely on target. However, I think that teaching creationism and intellegent design in public schools is the worst thing we could do to our children. They apparently are already getting enough of it at home, and force feeding religion to children should not be the job of the state. Evolution is not a religion, its a scientific theory, get it straight.
daolong51279 3 days ago
@daolong51279 Not to mention what is there to teach? God did it , class dismissed?
FreeDog70 3 days ago
@alexthasy "no apes showing any signs of being evolving into men"
You just proved with 1 sentance, you dont understand evolution.
MitchofSmeg 3 days ago
@MitchofSmeg To say that I don't believe in evolution is more accurate. Evolutionists always try to dodge the fact that if evolution were an ongoing process there would still be apes evolving into men or other species caught in a transitional process. Fairy tales of land mammals altering organs and limbs while evolving into whales and supported by remnant of dead bones are not even poor science fiction.
alexthasy 3 days ago
@alexthasy all species are in a transitional process, lol. I mean hell, we have the full records of the modern horse going back. Or what about dogs, which are bred to have specific characteristics, thats evolution which is man made, why cant that happen in the wild?
BTw, it takes a huge quantity of time to see any significant change usually, but there is a river in africa called the Congo.
Oh, and there were multiple human like/ape like species that evolved,only humans suvived it.
MitchofSmeg 3 days ago
@alexthasy seriously, look up the congo river and the evolutionary traits of the fish in it.
MitchofSmeg 3 days ago
@MitchofSmeg More conjectures
alexthasy 3 days ago
@alexthasy You are a conjecture. And a towel.
daolong51279 3 days ago
@alexthasy You twist a hebrew creation myth into something it is not and you dare call evolution fantasy and fairy tales? Do you even know where your misguided beliefs come from? By the way, there is a species of shark that changes its internal organs half way through its life span. Its called a Bull shark, and it goes from a fresh water respiratory system to a salt water system when it gets to big for rivers. Magic I tell you.
daolong51279 3 days ago
@daolong51279 So you believe that the gods of evolution are giving the bull shark this adaptation mechanism.
alexthasy 2 days ago
@alexthasy are you retarded?
thebeaterz16 2 days ago
@thebeaterz16
he retards us all..
darklorddogg 2 days ago
@alexthasy Jeez get a life, thanks to your excessive posting I can´t find my comment! Oh, before i go I just want to confront you with one fact: Most people who accept evolution are christians! Bye moron!
ptango666 2 days ago
@ptango666 most who accept evolution are Christians, huh? And just how did you come to that conclusion? YOU are the moron.
protoborg 2 days ago
@protoborg No YOU are the moron. I was brought up a catholic and I definitely believe in Evolution.
zapkvr 2 days ago