I'm not even gonna mention the fact that Bardock can become SS because even without that being said this video is flawed htf is King Vegeta a Ape, but Bardock isn't???? They both would have transformed putting power back in Bardock's corner which he would King Vegeta into lol
@youngkengotti16 no frieza didnt killl him if you watch episode of barock you will see that bardock survived but he's in the past while in the past he fights chilled,frieza's ancester, andbecomes a super sayain and disapears :)
PEOPLE STOP!!! BARDOCK IS STRONGER ,. HE CAN BE A SUPER SAIYAN AND HE WAS THE FIRST!! TO BE COM . IN THE EPISODE OF BARDOCK KING CHILLED VS BARDOCK .. HE BECAMED SUPER SAIYAN
Thx, I had researched it and saw it. Still I don't think it would have a bearing on the fight unless you wish back King Vegeta because Bardock is in another time. This is a good issue, Bardock Vs King Vegeta because there is debately evidence in the show.
@zpt151 his own son would rape him and Bardock would eat him for breakfast Broly would go psycho on his ass turles would tree of mght his ass raditz (the longer the hair the stronger you are ) Nappa would OVER 9000 him and goku it wouldnt be fair
@tommierooney123 Actually, it's a legit manga chapter produced by Akira Toriyama. Frieza's attavk sent Bardock to the past. There, Bardock became the first SSJ and Chilled made a warning for his family. But, because there were no more SSJs until Goku, it remained as just a legend/myth.
@PivotPro313 bardock has the power to go to the past and future how do you think goku knew about his father and he went to the past before freiza was born bardock fought chilled friezas grandfather and went super sayian just go to bardock goes super saiyan and that is why freiza is scared of super sayian because chilled told king cold freizas father beware of the gold haired sayians and king cold told freiza
@afham3582 Hoho that's all wrong and wrong again. Frieza's first form had 530.000 as official power level, not 500.500. At 100% full power Frieza had a powerlevel of 120.000.000 (Goku was at 150.000.000 as reference). Bardock in the special was said to have a powerlevel of almost 10.000 which was considered by many of Frieza's men to be huge compared to themselves and, as quoted in the special 'was expected to pass up King Vegeta in a short time'.
@054martinm I took that quote from dragonball.wikia.com: "During this time, presiding doctors attest that Bardock's power level is approaching 10,000,[1] and that at this rate he may surpass the strength of the Saiyan ruler, King Vegeta.". Whether this was quoted or not, does it matter?
@gojira4life yes because your spouting fake bullshit. everyone knows wikia can be edited by anyone and relies on english dub for its info. instead of the actual dbz.
@054martinm Fake bullshit? It's true wikia's can be edited by anyone, but this wikia has proven to be very accurate and is always using correct information and sources. It's also the number 1 site for your upcoming DBZ information. It also uses information from both the original and english dub of the DB franchise so it's ok. Before you start ripping on me about such small details, try to see if it's worth starting a conversation about it. Especially if you find it necessary to start cursing.
@gojira4life wrong. wikia has wrong information scattered throughout because it tries to use fillers and english dub as its evidence rather than focusing on official manga translations. it also includes fan terms like "ultra super saiyan" as its article name for fucks sake.
@054martinm How would you have called Ultra SSJ? Also, noticed that the article contains multiple other ways that Ultra SSJ is called, such as:
Sûpâ Saiya-jin dai san-dankai
Super Saiyan 1 Stage 3
Super Saiyan 3rd Grade
Super Saiyan 1.5
Ultra Super Saiyan is the accepted term to the SSJ form used in all games today yet you don't approve of it? Also, they do focus on manga translation and their pages are constantly checked for correct sources and terms.
@MaZINGErDeSTro Ugh, I'm tired of this discussion. The thing this guy 054martinm wan't to prove is that he is right and all others are wrong. I'm quitting this pointless discussion but thanks for at least saying it's a good "fan translation".
@gojira4life no no i am with you!!!The original is Sûpâ Saiya-jin dai san-dankai as you said and according to daizenshuu.The ultra term as i said is a term used for fan translation back when dbz was first released in japan and the fans were like "wtf are these guys talking about i know jackshit about japan and their language".The original translation i think means Super saiyan 1 stage 2 or 3.Which in english makes no sense.Why call it ssj1 stage 2?Isnt it better as ssj2?
@gojira4life But still these translation were made back then when ssj2 stage was called ssj ascend beyond ascend or better the ssj ascend level after ascended or as a dummy could call it super super saiyan.Goku in buu saga told us that these are called ssj2 and ssj3 but still the dialogue made them look like he just thought of them.So again you are right.Dont listen to every online jackass talks you about them and has only saw the series like one time and knows nothing of the manga...
@MaZINGErDeSTro I know right? But thanks a lot for your kind support, you are one kind person, you know that! I've been watching, playing and studying DB/Z/GT and all it means since I'm 12 years old and now, 10 years later I can honestly call myself a wiz on the whole franchise. 10 years of experience may not make me number 1 in the knowledge of it, but I'm proud of what i know. You seem like the same type of guy to me; one who honestly knows his stuff from facts and years of experience!
@gojira4life see!!!When you have knowlenge trust it.Most of the youtubers are spammers and knowingall-wannabes.They search wiki and watch countless fan translations and stupid vbloggers that know nothing of a series.You can easily sit on a chair and point a camera on your face and say "I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT DBZ" and every youtube will be like "man dude you are awesome".Knowlenge doesnt come after seeing a series but as you said after doing research.
@gojira4life Dbz is a hard series to figure out cause some points were made so fast that even toriyama reads them today and its like "dude the japanese crack back then was awesome".We can discuss about something like a name for like days and still we will not get a clear answer cause everybody thinks his own way.Research helps the fans to overcome the bs that fanboys tell them.Trust your knowlenge and ignore spammers and nerds by any cost or you will argue with them all the time.
@MaZINGErDeSTro YES SIR!!! I always trust my knowledge and always will. In fact, on the wikia site I mentioned to this guy, I was given credit for always writing long yet very detailed and correct answers on blog posts and as such, people come to me to ask for stuff they don't know. Thanks again for your trusting words and kindness, bro!
Now, if your statement was that Bardock was stronger than King Vegeta after he was blown to the supposed past and became a SSJ there, your right. But in reality, King Vegeta retains his status as King of Saiyans for being the strongest one alive, Bardock probably a close second.
@Mechagodzilla34 Both are canon; Bardock is canon and King Vegeta, while not appearing in the manga in person, was mentioned by name, making him canon to the story despite never being present. He did however appear in scenes in the anime so it's canon in there as well.
@PolarBearSlippers Nah it's not fan made I've seen the vid also mate. I'm not sure who it's made by, but it's not made by akira or the creators of GT. Bardock > nappa? Bardock > kid buu? Lol
@ben1000081 Yeah theve kind of stuffed up the legend of the super saiyan but at least dbz is still around and out there. I think from watching the episode that bardock is the legend of the super saiyan now. And it's cool man don't worry about you getting mad it's all good my man
@ben1000081 What episode you idiot? Bardock father of goku? If your referring to that then your a dumb ass who's got no idea. Why didn't bardock go super saiyan then?
@candog111 because the super saiyan theory wasnt invented yet dumbass, use some brains. The episode of bardock you dum idiot lol, do you know anything. Type the episode of bardock on you tube and watch it, read the manga too. They both say the same thing
@ben1000081 yeah mate i actually watched it about 3 hours ago because i had no idea what you were on about. The episode itst half bad but it has holes in it. This doesn't make sense as when Vegeta was telling everyone about the legend he said that the last Super Saiyan,which was 3000 years ago (later changes to only 1000) could only become SS while transformed into the Giant Ape and ended up destroying himself because he couldn't control his power.Akira also had nothing to do with it
@candog111 True that lol. Maybe they are trying to rack in some dough. I get you when you talk about the episode too, there is a couple of plot holes. What vegeta said doesn't make sense lol, i should re watch that ep in subbed or something, Akira said that he got the inspiration from the dbz card game in japan, were bardock is already a ss(i read some where il find the link). Might as well wait and see, btw im sorry about those arguments ae it is just a cartoon. Nothing for me to get mad about
@HombreSinBigoteEl3 the final atk that friezas attack absorbed would of killed king vegeta and tho it waasnt direct from my point of view but frieza put more effort into killing bardock then he did king vegeta death ball as oppose to a common physical atk
@blackflames12221 the reason he put more effort into the death ball is because he was trying to wipe out the whole saiyan race where as he just wanted to kill king vegeta bardock would of died from that punch as well
@ben1000081 well bardocks my fave character but him being sent back would give reason to believe his race wouldnt come to exist who would he mate with? and if he got sent backk goku wouldnt exist
@blackflames12221 bardock sent goku to earth and i don't know lol, remember this is the reason frieza feared the saiyans, it was because a certain saiyan became a super saiyan and defeated chilled, then chilled passes this info to his descendants about staying away from saiyan's who can go "blonde". Personally this is like a new series, but bardock is the new goku lol
@candog111 of course, you retarded idiot lol. He got sent waaaay back in time before planet vegeta was even named or a saiyan existed. The saiyan legend came from him and he was the first bloody saiyan, if you haven't noticed chilled saying "What the hell is a saiyan"
@ben1000081 he got send way back in time as a what if kind of story. Bardock was not the first super saiyan you messed up idiot. Get your facts straight then reply dumb ass
@candog111 watch the end of the episode it says that the legend came from him and the saiyans started talking about bardock being the first super saiyan. You dumbass, get your facts right before you come here sprouting all that bullshit. Have you seen the episode of bardock, keep on watching until you understand
@candog111 bro ive seen a video on youtube where bardock get sent back to the past but im sure its fan made and the first ssj was the great ape that vegeta was talking about on namek i agree with u bro any1 who says bardock was the 1st ssj is an idiot and king vegeta will shit on bardock
King Vegeta may be lazier than Bardock, but Bardock still can't beat or kill King Vegeta. Bardock after the Kanassa fight went from a powerlevel of 7,300 to a final powerlevel of 10,000. King Vegeta was pretty much always stationary at 11,000, which is still 10% of Bardock's final power above him, and judging by how easily Vegeta toyed with Zarbon etc. (who were closer to Vegeta than Bardock ever was to King Vegeta), King Vegeta still kills Bardock almost effortlessly.
Hmmm, seems like Youtube is possitively full with scum, you could just save yourself the trouble, apologise for calling me a retard, admit your wrong/my right to me and just kneel before me down.
@ben1000081 ss bardock's power level was never mentioned. his power level was never mentioned after surviving the blast either. don't pull shit out of ur ass
@DjangoEX doesn't have you seen the episode of bardock he is typically more the 500,000. So the shit i pulled out was better then all your retarded comments lol
@DjangoEX no idiot akira as confirmed that the episode of bardock is canon. Shame asshole, if you don't believe me, then type on youtube the episode of bardock (subbed). Akira has stated that its canon and bardock is the true first super saiyan. Haha bitch go read the daizenshu website and read the manga
@ben1000081 i see you really love to pull shit out of ur ass. akira never confirmed it was canon. it was not even really made by him he just supervised it. find me an article saying it was canon
@DjangoEX dude he is just trying to get atention do not listen 2 his retardation just because bardock has ssj in raging blast 2 the video game does not mean he really was a super saiyan, broly had Lssj3 in raging blast 2 but he never had it in manga or the anime.
@Krauser3609 "dude he is just trying to get atention do not listen 2 his retardation just because bardock has ssj in raging blast 2 the video game does not mean he really was a super saiyan, broly had Lssj3 in raging blast 2 but he never had it in manga or the anime."- now this is retarded, now read the manga dragonball the episode of bardock or watch the episode, so don't make a shitty comment like that again :D
@DjangoEX for the record...bro Thats one of the only few movies that was cannon besides. Cooler and Tapion. Bardock was cannon for a fact. Tapions too. but cooler I think I have to look that one up again.
@ben1000081 lol real fail bro. I have read and watched the episode of bardock. it says original concept and director. but he was not the producer. The first ever super saiyan was an unamed saiyan that died because he could not control all the power( if i remeber right).In nowhere does it say that episode of bardock is original canon.
@054martinm vegeta was the first one to say that when he first mentioned the legend of a super saiyan. its surprissing that someone of your knowledge does not know this.
@054martinm I really doubt it was a dub error. You cannot justify anything by saying Error this or error that when all in all the manga could have been translated wrong .
@DjangoEX herms translates most of the manga and hes fluent in japanese. if yuo know japanese better than him, speak up. all i know is that vegeta never said anything about the ssj losing control in official japanese version
@054martinm The thing is you don't know japenese either so saying an official dub is wrong isn't really to justified since there were many editors working on it that probablly speak fluent japenese also and there was no reason for it to be cut or added in.
@DjangoEX yes it is justified. everyone knows the english dub is dumbed down and changes the story. sabat said they got terrible translations. which is why kai is officially considered much closer to the source material but still not the same as what is said in english subs. for example, over 9000 becomes over 8000. bardock being brilliant scientist is out. goku's "light in the darkness" speech is waaay out. the dialogue surrounding goku's ssj transformations much closer to the subbed etc
@054martinm in the english dub vegeta DID say the first n only ever ssj could only control it in ape form.. although, the first ssj was bardock.. it's clearly just a translation fail or a plot hole.. either way you can't just say it didnt happen, because it did.. and not knowing it was even said it pathetic for someone who apparently knows a lot about dragonball
@IHaveReallyGottaSHIT who cares about the terrible, bloated, overdone, cheesy, mistranslated, poorly acted, poorly written, horrible disgrace of an english dub? i only use the REAL dbz for my dbz information
@IHaveReallyGottaSHIT I know enough to know that the top rated post is complete bullshit. IF bardock HAD become a Super Saiya-jin, he would have SURVIVED the blast and stopped Frieza from destroying the planet. Instead, he gets his ass handed to him like a failed troll.
@CrimsonEagleSG1 the blast threw him thousands of years into the past. he wasnt a ssj till the fight with freezas ancestor. and just cos your a ssj doesnt necessarily mean you can beat freeza
@054martinm "its official dragonball material by a friend of toriyama" ORLY? Only official information from the REAL DBZ? Then I suppose you knew that in japan it's all Just Dragonball in the manga? Or that GT is fan made and DOESN'T happen in the official series? Of course you do. I have over 8000 Dragonballs, and they're about to be in your face.
@MrBestmouse i don't know, bro. Cause he got sent how many years in the past. God knows why, but he might have been sent 1000 years ago, so yea lol. The son trained way more then the father because the son spent a full life training instead of actually being there for gohan lol
Btw thumbes up if u think this is bullshit and Bardock won.
daidakillaz16 19 hours ago 3
0:00 what kind of music is that music to master bait 2? then this is the best in the whole vid 0:05
daidakillaz16 19 hours ago
And when you make him an ape you leave King Vegeta as a mortal, wtf? make the apes fight
KapitalKTV 1 day ago
I'm not even gonna mention the fact that Bardock can become SS because even without that being said this video is flawed htf is King Vegeta a Ape, but Bardock isn't???? They both would have transformed putting power back in Bardock's corner which he would King Vegeta into lol
KapitalKTV 1 day ago
Bardock Will kill King Vegeta in 10 seconds
Dragondx41 2 days ago
@Dragondx41 despite the fact king vegetas power was never given and therefore you have no idea how the fight would go.
054martinm 2 days ago
bardock is way stronger just because king vegeta is kibg so they said bardock power level 1000
livforaction 3 days ago
this is wrong because frieza killed bardock this is some dum shit
youngkengotti16 3 days ago
@youngkengotti16 no frieza didnt killl him if you watch episode of barock you will see that bardock survived but he's in the past while in the past he fights chilled,frieza's ancester, andbecomes a super sayain and disapears :)
vetmaster12 3 days ago
@youngkengotti16 This is fan made, incase you didn't notice.
Haloguy700 3 days ago
@youngkengotti16 freeza killed king vegeta as well. your point?
054martinm 2 days ago
whats the song at 1:25
104karel 4 days ago
whats that song at 1:25
104karel 4 days ago
figures father like son
in the battle between goku and vegeta GREAT APE
in the battle between Bardock and King vegeta I wonder what happens oh yea GREAT APE
supergogeta2134 4 days ago
I wonder...shouldn't Bardock have transformed into an Oozaru as well?
TheArchevil 5 days ago
@zpt1 king vegeta is not the strongest and bardock turn into ssj watch episode of bardock
simux250xxl 6 days ago
this is so lame!
Joseussj 1 week ago
I hope bardock won
MegaBobhunter 1 week ago
I luvu
juliolopez42 1 week ago
is this bt3 because it look like it
tae87550 1 week ago
claro, y bardock al ver la luna nos e transforma....
soyelahora202 1 week ago
AJJAJA JJ BAD VERY BAD
denny100ar 1 week ago
Vegito I love your videos but bardock would have won
kylonbell123 1 week ago
WHY YOU NO LOOK AT THE MOON BARDOCK?!
TheGodOfEPICNESS 1 week ago
0:13 Its over 9000!
THbyTG 1 week ago
hold on wouldn't Bardock go great ape 2?
95Bigbang 1 week ago
I personally have King Vegeta at 11,000
and Bardock Zenkai at 10,000 so King Vegeta would barely had a lead on Bardock but would still win
96montecarlo1 1 week ago
@96montecarlo1 bardock zenkai would have been far beyond 10 000. pre dodoria fight he was just a bit below 10 000
054martinm 2 days ago
i love the crappy voice editing at the start: "do you hear? bardock power level a ten thousand"
NinjaModeTV 1 week ago
i thought goku and vageta were brothers are they???????
chase1249 1 week ago
@chase1249 no they arent because bardock is gokus dad and king vageta is vagetas dad
MrNickchic3 1 week ago
PEOPLE STOP!!! BARDOCK IS STRONGER ,. HE CAN BE A SUPER SAIYAN AND HE WAS THE FIRST!! TO BE COM . IN THE EPISODE OF BARDOCK KING CHILLED VS BARDOCK .. HE BECAMED SUPER SAIYAN
shaneama11 2 weeks ago 17
@shaneama11
when did Bardock become a super Saiyan????????
Ryukikon 1 week ago
@Ryukikon
watch?v=aW1EFb54cEw
Bardock SSJ Transformation.
Beyblademaster1728 1 week ago
@Beyblademaster1728
Thx, I had researched it and saw it. Still I don't think it would have a bearing on the fight unless you wish back King Vegeta because Bardock is in another time. This is a good issue, Bardock Vs King Vegeta because there is debately evidence in the show.
Ryukikon 1 week ago
@Ryukikon In the Movie of Episodes of bardock
shaneama11 1 week ago
@shaneama11 Bardock never became a super saiyan. Vegeta was the king and the strongest saiyan alive.
zpt151 1 week ago
@zpt151 Tss.. Research before u comment!!!!!!
shaneama11 1 week ago
@zpt151 his own son would rape him and Bardock would eat him for breakfast Broly would go psycho on his ass turles would tree of mght his ass raditz (the longer the hair the stronger you are ) Nappa would OVER 9000 him and goku it wouldnt be fair
kingtweet1 6 days ago
@zpt151 barodck was a ssj in the new manga by ooishi
054martinm 2 days ago
@shaneama11 No, That was a special, not a real movie.
but anyways... he wasn't first, he just traveled to the past.
tommierooney123 6 days ago
@tommierooney123 TSS HOW DID VEGETA KNEW THAT THERE IS A SUPER SAIYAN ?? HUH ??? ???? EVEN SO ITS A SPECIAL , ITS ALSO ,, BELONG IN THE STORY LINE
shaneama11 5 days ago
@shaneama11 Super Saiyan was just a myth they thought maybe it was real... but they didn't know so they kept it a secret.
tommierooney123 5 days ago
@tommierooney123 Actually, it's a legit manga chapter produced by Akira Toriyama. Frieza's attavk sent Bardock to the past. There, Bardock became the first SSJ and Chilled made a warning for his family. But, because there were no more SSJs until Goku, it remained as just a legend/myth.
Sp1r1t1ngcurve 5 days ago
@shaneama11 That.. was an evil, cruel thing to do to the English language.
LittledudeJrr 5 days ago
@shaneama11 WORD TY
PrinceGregoryHenry 4 days ago
@shaneama11 that was from a japanease card game not real
TheJuggernautxx 3 days ago
@TheJuggernautxx its official dragonball material by a friend of toriyama
054martinm 2 days ago
@shaneama11 ummm no. i know who the real first super saiyan is... name, transformations, power levels, and his history, but i will never tell
MrMarsproductions 3 days ago
@MrMarsproductions Who cares about your opinion if you never gonna tell it GTFO
shaneama11 2 days ago
Bardock is stronger then king vegeta
mrjokerxx11 2 weeks ago
Sorry but theres one thing you forgot Bardock would have went great ape too since he had his tail so Bardock would have won
cherroc5870 2 weeks ago
why did bardock delayed to transform???Plot=wtf?
MaZINGErDeSTro 2 weeks ago
my opinion i think Bardock is cooler but King vegeta has an awesome goat-tee
I think little vegeta is awesome but goku was funnier
invisibleseeker 2 weeks ago
What a half-assed scene 2:00-2:03.
XxHacks101xX 2 weeks ago
BILLIG xD
ghost00345 2 weeks ago
@054martinm Yeah I know
candog111 2 weeks ago
WTF?????
dancermza 2 weeks ago
Truly an epic battle that contains True violence, I love it.
TwinsanityUniverse 2 weeks ago
lol good try due :P
Maaya2310 2 weeks ago
stupid animation bardock he also has a tail.
he also transformes into a mono
pdowarriors 2 weeks ago
if King Vegeta transforms at the fake moon light, why wouldn't bardock to it too at the same time. For that alone you fail.
IMIRLegend 2 weeks ago
NICEE
themegaillumi 3 weeks ago
@PivotPro313 bardock has the power to go to the past and future how do you think goku knew about his father and he went to the past before freiza was born bardock fought chilled friezas grandfather and went super sayian just go to bardock goes super saiyan and that is why freiza is scared of super sayian because chilled told king cold freizas father beware of the gold haired sayians and king cold told freiza
loadinglevel10 3 weeks ago
Bardock is stronger e.e
Argentumseb 3 weeks ago 3
BARDOCK is a lot stronger than KING VEGETA
KING VEGETA = 10,000
FRIEZA (1st form) = 500,500
BARDOCK (super saiyan) = stronger than FRIEZA FINAL FORM (100% full power)
afham3582 3 weeks ago
@afham3582 No? xD
Idiot :D
nico7539 3 weeks ago
@afham3582 you idiot bardock doesnt go super saiyan you freakin retard
PivotPro313 3 weeks ago
@PivotPro313 ya he does. but this came out way before he did
mrtangelo885 3 weeks ago
@PivotPro313 um yes he does. in the official episode of bardock manga.
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@afham3582 Hoho that's all wrong and wrong again. Frieza's first form had 530.000 as official power level, not 500.500. At 100% full power Frieza had a powerlevel of 120.000.000 (Goku was at 150.000.000 as reference). Bardock in the special was said to have a powerlevel of almost 10.000 which was considered by many of Frieza's men to be huge compared to themselves and, as quoted in the special 'was expected to pass up King Vegeta in a short time'.
gojira4life 3 weeks ago
@gojira4life that quote was never in the special. not once did anyone ever mention king vegeta in it.
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@054martinm I took that quote from dragonball.wikia.com: "During this time, presiding doctors attest that Bardock's power level is approaching 10,000,[1] and that at this rate he may surpass the strength of the Saiyan ruler, King Vegeta.". Whether this was quoted or not, does it matter?
gojira4life 2 weeks ago
@gojira4life yes because your spouting fake bullshit. everyone knows wikia can be edited by anyone and relies on english dub for its info. instead of the actual dbz.
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@054martinm Fake bullshit? It's true wikia's can be edited by anyone, but this wikia has proven to be very accurate and is always using correct information and sources. It's also the number 1 site for your upcoming DBZ information. It also uses information from both the original and english dub of the DB franchise so it's ok. Before you start ripping on me about such small details, try to see if it's worth starting a conversation about it. Especially if you find it necessary to start cursing.
gojira4life 2 weeks ago
@gojira4life wrong. wikia has wrong information scattered throughout because it tries to use fillers and english dub as its evidence rather than focusing on official manga translations. it also includes fan terms like "ultra super saiyan" as its article name for fucks sake.
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@054martinm where does it say ultra super saiyan on dbz wiki....
DjangoEX 2 weeks ago
@054martinm How would you have called Ultra SSJ? Also, noticed that the article contains multiple other ways that Ultra SSJ is called, such as:
Sûpâ Saiya-jin dai san-dankai
Super Saiyan 1 Stage 3
Super Saiyan 3rd Grade
Super Saiyan 1.5
Ultra Super Saiyan is the accepted term to the SSJ form used in all games today yet you don't approve of it? Also, they do focus on manga translation and their pages are constantly checked for correct sources and terms.
gojira4life 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@gojira4life "officially" those stages are ssj second grade and third grade.
games dont count. the games call cell arc gohan "teen gohan".
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@gojira4life ultra ssj is a term used for episode summaries from a guy when dbz first was released in japan.It is a good "fan translation".
MaZINGErDeSTro 2 weeks ago
@MaZINGErDeSTro Ugh, I'm tired of this discussion. The thing this guy 054martinm wan't to prove is that he is right and all others are wrong. I'm quitting this pointless discussion but thanks for at least saying it's a good "fan translation".
gojira4life 2 weeks ago
@gojira4life no no i am with you!!!The original is Sûpâ Saiya-jin dai san-dankai as you said and according to daizenshuu.The ultra term as i said is a term used for fan translation back when dbz was first released in japan and the fans were like "wtf are these guys talking about i know jackshit about japan and their language".The original translation i think means Super saiyan 1 stage 2 or 3.Which in english makes no sense.Why call it ssj1 stage 2?Isnt it better as ssj2?
MaZINGErDeSTro 2 weeks ago
@gojira4life But still these translation were made back then when ssj2 stage was called ssj ascend beyond ascend or better the ssj ascend level after ascended or as a dummy could call it super super saiyan.Goku in buu saga told us that these are called ssj2 and ssj3 but still the dialogue made them look like he just thought of them.So again you are right.Dont listen to every online jackass talks you about them and has only saw the series like one time and knows nothing of the manga...
MaZINGErDeSTro 2 weeks ago
@MaZINGErDeSTro I know right? But thanks a lot for your kind support, you are one kind person, you know that! I've been watching, playing and studying DB/Z/GT and all it means since I'm 12 years old and now, 10 years later I can honestly call myself a wiz on the whole franchise. 10 years of experience may not make me number 1 in the knowledge of it, but I'm proud of what i know. You seem like the same type of guy to me; one who honestly knows his stuff from facts and years of experience!
gojira4life 2 weeks ago
@gojira4life see!!!When you have knowlenge trust it.Most of the youtubers are spammers and knowingall-wannabes.They search wiki and watch countless fan translations and stupid vbloggers that know nothing of a series.You can easily sit on a chair and point a camera on your face and say "I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT DBZ" and every youtube will be like "man dude you are awesome".Knowlenge doesnt come after seeing a series but as you said after doing research.
MaZINGErDeSTro 2 weeks ago
@gojira4life Dbz is a hard series to figure out cause some points were made so fast that even toriyama reads them today and its like "dude the japanese crack back then was awesome".We can discuss about something like a name for like days and still we will not get a clear answer cause everybody thinks his own way.Research helps the fans to overcome the bs that fanboys tell them.Trust your knowlenge and ignore spammers and nerds by any cost or you will argue with them all the time.
MaZINGErDeSTro 2 weeks ago
@MaZINGErDeSTro YES SIR!!! I always trust my knowledge and always will. In fact, on the wikia site I mentioned to this guy, I was given credit for always writing long yet very detailed and correct answers on blog posts and as such, people come to me to ask for stuff they don't know. Thanks again for your trusting words and kindness, bro!
gojira4life 2 weeks ago
@afham3582
Now, if your statement was that Bardock was stronger than King Vegeta after he was blown to the supposed past and became a SSJ there, your right. But in reality, King Vegeta retains his status as King of Saiyans for being the strongest one alive, Bardock probably a close second.
gojira4life 3 weeks ago
@gojira4life non-canon
Mechagodzilla34 2 weeks ago
@Mechagodzilla34 Both are canon; Bardock is canon and King Vegeta, while not appearing in the manga in person, was mentioned by name, making him canon to the story despite never being present. He did however appear in scenes in the anime so it's canon in there as well.
gojira4life 2 weeks ago
@gojira4life i'm talking about him becoming ssj
Mechagodzilla34 2 weeks ago
@Mechagodzilla34 Oh that? Yeah, that's non-canon. Be a bit more specific next time though, please.
gojira4life 2 weeks ago
bardock
sali0575 3 weeks ago
bardock wins because he is the legendary super saiyan, if you read dragonball z af manga it says so.
ANDREWWATERGEM 3 weeks ago
bardock could have turned great ape
jackboydownie123 3 weeks ago
bardak e piu forte
MrMrPiccologoku 4 weeks ago
Guys put in Dragon ball Hoshi there is an episode about Bardock
MrCartmen14 4 weeks ago
@MrCartmen14 Hoshi is fake, episode of bardock was an animation of a three part manga
Obito1600 2 weeks ago
wouldnt bardock turn into a great ape too under king vegetas attack?
54MSAM 4 weeks ago
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djmars1987 4 weeks ago
Why so many dislikes?
zah666 1 month ago
577 saiyans were killed by bardocks blast at the end of the vid
PlazmaZ5 1 month ago
Little did Vegito1089 know that this very battle would play in Dragon Ball Multiverse!!!
nigahigagreatness 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Vegito1089
how was king egeta a great ape IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING DAY?
goldlover98 1 month ago
@goldlover98 they can create moons ..
0433850821 4 weeks ago
@0433850821 ok my bad forgot about the vegeta fight thx for the reminder :D
goldlover98 4 weeks ago
epic fail video
AMVsayan 1 month ago
No hoe foe
YungCiroq 1 month ago
this is game hahahahahahah
manojlovic001 1 month ago
@PolarBearSlippers Nah it's not fan made I've seen the vid also mate. I'm not sure who it's made by, but it's not made by akira or the creators of GT. Bardock > nappa? Bardock > kid buu? Lol
candog111 1 month ago
@ben1000081 Yeah theve kind of stuffed up the legend of the super saiyan but at least dbz is still around and out there. I think from watching the episode that bardock is the legend of the super saiyan now. And it's cool man don't worry about you getting mad it's all good my man
candog111 1 month ago
@candog111 never mind ive seen it now its not fan made but its non canon
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
Bardock would Rape King Vegetas ass!!
mikoson1000 1 month ago
@ben1000081 What episode you idiot? Bardock father of goku? If your referring to that then your a dumb ass who's got no idea. Why didn't bardock go super saiyan then?
candog111 1 month ago
@candog111 because the super saiyan theory wasnt invented yet dumbass, use some brains. The episode of bardock you dum idiot lol, do you know anything. Type the episode of bardock on you tube and watch it, read the manga too. They both say the same thing
ben1000081 1 month ago
@ben1000081 yeah mate i actually watched it about 3 hours ago because i had no idea what you were on about. The episode itst half bad but it has holes in it. This doesn't make sense as when Vegeta was telling everyone about the legend he said that the last Super Saiyan,which was 3000 years ago (later changes to only 1000) could only become SS while transformed into the Giant Ape and ended up destroying himself because he couldn't control his power.Akira also had nothing to do with it
candog111 1 month ago
@candog111 True that lol. Maybe they are trying to rack in some dough. I get you when you talk about the episode too, there is a couple of plot holes. What vegeta said doesn't make sense lol, i should re watch that ep in subbed or something, Akira said that he got the inspiration from the dbz card game in japan, were bardock is already a ss(i read some where il find the link). Might as well wait and see, btw im sorry about those arguments ae it is just a cartoon. Nothing for me to get mad about
ben1000081 1 month ago
@HombreSinBigoteEl3 the final atk that friezas attack absorbed would of killed king vegeta and tho it waasnt direct from my point of view but frieza put more effort into killing bardock then he did king vegeta death ball as oppose to a common physical atk
blackflames12221 1 month ago
@blackflames12221 the reason he put more effort into the death ball is because he was trying to wipe out the whole saiyan race where as he just wanted to kill king vegeta bardock would of died from that punch as well
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@ben1000081 well bardocks my fave character but him being sent back would give reason to believe his race wouldnt come to exist who would he mate with? and if he got sent backk goku wouldnt exist
blackflames12221 1 month ago
@blackflames12221 bardock sent goku to earth and i don't know lol, remember this is the reason frieza feared the saiyans, it was because a certain saiyan became a super saiyan and defeated chilled, then chilled passes this info to his descendants about staying away from saiyan's who can go "blonde". Personally this is like a new series, but bardock is the new goku lol
ben1000081 1 month ago
Metal gear solid!!
:D
Bubugnagna 1 month ago
@ben1000081 Your not saying bardock was the first ssj are you? Please get real
candog111 1 month ago
@candog111 of course, you retarded idiot lol. He got sent waaaay back in time before planet vegeta was even named or a saiyan existed. The saiyan legend came from him and he was the first bloody saiyan, if you haven't noticed chilled saying "What the hell is a saiyan"
ben1000081 1 month ago
@ben1000081 he got send way back in time as a what if kind of story. Bardock was not the first super saiyan you messed up idiot. Get your facts straight then reply dumb ass
candog111 1 month ago
@candog111 watch the end of the episode it says that the legend came from him and the saiyans started talking about bardock being the first super saiyan. You dumbass, get your facts right before you come here sprouting all that bullshit. Have you seen the episode of bardock, keep on watching until you understand
ben1000081 1 month ago
@candog111 bro ive seen a video on youtube where bardock get sent back to the past but im sure its fan made and the first ssj was the great ape that vegeta was talking about on namek i agree with u bro any1 who says bardock was the 1st ssj is an idiot and king vegeta will shit on bardock
PolarBearSlippers 1 month ago
@candog111 he was if you just fucking watched the episode of it.
MrBestmouse 1 month ago
@MrBestmouse hes wasnt the first super saiyan, tell me then what fucking episode and ill prove you wrong
candog111 1 month ago
@candog111 episode of bardock special
054martinm 2 weeks ago
xD what the hell
ghosterbuser1212 1 month ago
la embarraste
mauricio17682 1 month ago
Cool !!!
MegaXGenesis 1 month ago
f*ck the trolls
marioman57100 1 month ago
OYE TU SABES COMO BARDOCK SE TRANSFORMA EN GORILA O EN CUAL JUEGO.POR FAVOR DIME PORQUE LO QUIERO TRANSFORMAR PORQUE APARECIERON PARTES DE UN JUEGO
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DBZGTRB 1 month ago
ya bardock is better the dumb vegta
richardljohn 1 month ago
devo admitirlo los cutscenes estan bien diseñados i most admit the cutscenes are very good well done
TheAlucarb 1 month ago
King Vegeta may be lazier than Bardock, but Bardock still can't beat or kill King Vegeta. Bardock after the Kanassa fight went from a powerlevel of 7,300 to a final powerlevel of 10,000. King Vegeta was pretty much always stationary at 11,000, which is still 10% of Bardock's final power above him, and judging by how easily Vegeta toyed with Zarbon etc. (who were closer to Vegeta than Bardock ever was to King Vegeta), King Vegeta still kills Bardock almost effortlessly.
HombreSinBigoteEl3 1 month ago
@HombreSinBigoteEl3
King Vegie: 11000
Bardock: 14000 after surviving the blast that destroyed vegeta
SS Bardock: 700000
Now please don't make a retard comment like that because bardock would overkill king vegie
ben1000081 1 month ago
Hmmm, seems like Youtube is possitively full with scum, you could just save yourself the trouble, apologise for calling me a retard, admit your wrong/my right to me and just kneel before me down.
HombreSinBigoteEl3 1 month ago
@ben1000081 ss bardock's power level was never mentioned. his power level was never mentioned after surviving the blast either. don't pull shit out of ur ass
DjangoEX 1 month ago
@DjangoEX it was said he has a power of 8000 approx
lurt500 1 month ago
@DjangoEX doesn't have you seen the episode of bardock he is typically more the 500,000. So the shit i pulled out was better then all your retarded comments lol
ben1000081 1 month ago
@ben1000081 no its not. atleast people are quoting actual canon. you are just sprouting bullshit out ur ass
DjangoEX 1 month ago
@DjangoEX no idiot akira as confirmed that the episode of bardock is canon. Shame asshole, if you don't believe me, then type on youtube the episode of bardock (subbed). Akira has stated that its canon and bardock is the true first super saiyan. Haha bitch go read the daizenshu website and read the manga
ben1000081 1 month ago
@ben1000081 i see you really love to pull shit out of ur ass. akira never confirmed it was canon. it was not even really made by him he just supervised it. find me an article saying it was canon
DjangoEX 1 month ago
@DjangoEX dude he is just trying to get atention do not listen 2 his retardation just because bardock has ssj in raging blast 2 the video game does not mean he really was a super saiyan, broly had Lssj3 in raging blast 2 but he never had it in manga or the anime.
Krauser3609 1 month ago
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@Krauser3609 "dude he is just trying to get atention do not listen 2 his retardation just because bardock has ssj in raging blast 2 the video game does not mean he really was a super saiyan, broly had Lssj3 in raging blast 2 but he never had it in manga or the anime."- now this is retarded, now read the manga dragonball the episode of bardock or watch the episode, so don't make a shitty comment like that again :D
ben1000081 1 month ago
@Krauser3609 actually bardock was the first super saiyan watch the episode of bardock
and you will see for your self nd it is real
goodgraciousify 1 month ago
@DjangoEX for the record...bro Thats one of the only few movies that was cannon besides. Cooler and Tapion. Bardock was cannon for a fact. Tapions too. but cooler I think I have to look that one up again.
009DemonFox 1 month ago
@ben1000081 lol real fail bro. I have read and watched the episode of bardock. it says original concept and director. but he was not the producer. The first ever super saiyan was an unamed saiyan that died because he could not control all the power( if i remeber right).In nowhere does it say that episode of bardock is original canon.
DjangoEX 1 month ago
@DjangoEX no he can control the power
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@054martinm can you not read?he first super saiyan was not bardock but an unamed great ape that died because he could not control the power?
DjangoEX 2 weeks ago
@DjangoEX you said that not me. bardock is the original ssj and all ssjs contorl their power. not once was it established one couldnt
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@054martinm vegeta was the first one to say that when he first mentioned the legend of a super saiyan. its surprissing that someone of your knowledge does not know this.
DjangoEX 2 weeks ago
@DjangoEX dub error. vegeta mentionoed nothing like that. all he said was the last one was a thousand years ago. read the manga.
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@054martinm I really doubt it was a dub error. You cannot justify anything by saying Error this or error that when all in all the manga could have been translated wrong .
DjangoEX 2 weeks ago
@DjangoEX herms translates most of the manga and hes fluent in japanese. if yuo know japanese better than him, speak up. all i know is that vegeta never said anything about the ssj losing control in official japanese version
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@054martinm The thing is you don't know japenese either so saying an official dub is wrong isn't really to justified since there were many editors working on it that probablly speak fluent japenese also and there was no reason for it to be cut or added in.
DjangoEX 2 weeks ago
@DjangoEX yes it is justified. everyone knows the english dub is dumbed down and changes the story. sabat said they got terrible translations. which is why kai is officially considered much closer to the source material but still not the same as what is said in english subs. for example, over 9000 becomes over 8000. bardock being brilliant scientist is out. goku's "light in the darkness" speech is waaay out. the dialogue surrounding goku's ssj transformations much closer to the subbed etc
054martinm 2 weeks ago
@054martinm in the english dub vegeta DID say the first n only ever ssj could only control it in ape form.. although, the first ssj was bardock.. it's clearly just a translation fail or a plot hole.. either way you can't just say it didnt happen, because it did.. and not knowing it was even said it pathetic for someone who apparently knows a lot about dragonball
IHaveReallyGottaSHIT 3 days ago
@IHaveReallyGottaSHIT who cares about the terrible, bloated, overdone, cheesy, mistranslated, poorly acted, poorly written, horrible disgrace of an english dub? i only use the REAL dbz for my dbz information
054martinm 2 days ago
@054martinm and you know Japanese?
IHaveReallyGottaSHIT 2 days ago
@IHaveReallyGottaSHIT I know enough to know that the top rated post is complete bullshit. IF bardock HAD become a Super Saiya-jin, he would have SURVIVED the blast and stopped Frieza from destroying the planet. Instead, he gets his ass handed to him like a failed troll.
CrimsonEagleSG1 2 days ago
@CrimsonEagleSG1 the blast threw him thousands of years into the past. he wasnt a ssj till the fight with freezas ancestor. and just cos your a ssj doesnt necessarily mean you can beat freeza
054martinm 2 days ago
@CrimsonEagleSG1 did became super saiyan moron.. theres even a movie about him turning ssj?? fucking dumb ass..
IHaveReallyGottaSHIT 1 day ago
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@054martinm "its official dragonball material by a friend of toriyama" ORLY? Only official information from the REAL DBZ? Then I suppose you knew that in japan it's all Just Dragonball in the manga? Or that GT is fan made and DOESN'T happen in the official series? Of course you do. I have over 8000 Dragonballs, and they're about to be in your face.
CrimsonEagleSG1 2 days ago
@ben1000081 and thats why the son of the person always gets to be second. And he surpassed him.
MrBestmouse 1 month ago
@MrBestmouse i don't know, bro. Cause he got sent how many years in the past. God knows why, but he might have been sent 1000 years ago, so yea lol. The son trained way more then the father because the son spent a full life training instead of actually being there for gohan lol
ben1000081 1 month ago