@sjackson2596 In all honesty, I got it real and there are lots of questions left after the trial. Whatever you think, it´s up to you but judging others because of their different opinion is nothing better than the media trash! Get off my page and stop watching hoax videos if you´re convinced that MJ is dead. Bye!
Wonder if the California Judge will be reprimanded...not for the sentence...but his obvious personal hostile attack of Dr. Murray in his courtroom today.! How can the Jackson family beleive that he killed MJ? He has lost his MD license and his career. Enough. He did not kill MJ. in my opinion.
MJ is alive. Dr Conrad Murray has been paid a LARGE amount of money. He will not be going to prison...he is protected. He is being used as a scapegoat. His 'God' is a Masonic Lodge one. The death of MJ was a hoax. MJ was 500 million in debt and 200 million + has been generated since his death. Mj wanted out. He appeared at his own funeral dressed as an elderly man. He appeared at the 2010 Grammy's as one of the Jackson cousins. His make-up artists use prosthetic disguises for him.
Some think that Murray changed his name, in Feb. '09, from Robert Earl Carter.
It is not unusual for a cardiologist to be summoned for general practices. Specialists should have knowledge of a general practitioner; fundamental to being a specialist. Many don't which is a problem, I'm just saying - - -
"This is a man named Conrad Murray. This is also a man named Conrad Murray. One is african-american, one is a white brit. They've different height and the african-american Conrad have hands. What does this mean?"
@Meglio85 In the IMDb data base you find the name "Conrad Murray", who´s playing a role in the film "24 hours Party People". Most took the view that this must be Dr. Murray, the physician, but it´s wrong. The black actor, who´s compared to Dr. Murray, is Lennie James, and the name Conrad Murray, which is found on the cast list, belongs to a white guy, the british actor Conrad Murray.
Only God will have the last word on what happens to this man. If he was working under an expired license, I believe that AG would not have qualified him to be MJ's doctor for the tours. Michael had the resources to check this man's credentials. For MJ's sake, I hope justice is served.
You know what i have realised? Whenever i see those little image clips of doctor conrad murray saying "the truth will prevail", it looks like he has vitiligo. It also looks ilke there was MAKEUP on his face! Even stranger, there is a picture of conrad murray, and his hand's skin tone is disfigured. No, not in a vitligo way, but it looks like there are 2 shades, one on one side, one on the other.
All I could think of is ... in life, we meet so many people. We welcome them into our lives & share laughter with them. But no one knows y these people happen upon us in life. So many of us meet our killers & don't even know it until it is too late. MJ was trying to stay safe - for his kids and I am sure for his fans. The interview with nurse C says it all. She said it "Michael said, but I will have a DOCTOR! I will be SAFE!" Oh Michael, if only we could turn back the time! RIP! Love you always!
@MJJ20Girl well yeah i know the beLIEvers will i will to, but to everyone that has fought so hard against us to say hes dead get over it that is what i want a front row seat for to see all the mouths drop and faces hit the floor
Why do people take the time to watch the hoax videos if their so offended?This isnt about playing games. You can see the big picture when your mind is open. When theres so many coincidences its usually because its not a coincidence.
Michael has to much intergrity and character to turn thi sinto a GAME of clue or charades _ that would be dispicable- regardless of if he is alive or not_The DHF made up this game _not Michael _ he is NOT playing - dont know who they are follwing down the rabbit hole _ but its NOT Michael Jackson _ I fee very sad for them :(
This was no game to MJ. This was very very real. This goes way deeper than you know. It has been going on for 10 years. Yeah there is a body. I do agree there. :)
I HEARD THAT THE DR. DUDE WAS ARRESTED FOR LIKE 4 DAYS AND NOW IT'S 4 YEARS IT SAID BCUZ OF MAN SLAUHTER OR SUMTHIN.... DA TROOT LOL WHICH U ALL SHOULD NO IT IS THE TRUTH! ANYWAY HOPE MJ IS ALIVE!! omg u no th mayor from ghost mj plays i saw a guy who looked like the mayor but skinnier??? weird! I HOPE HE IS ALIVE THO I WANNA MEET MY IDOL!! U NO THE SONG " GONE TO SOON" HE SAID BORN TO AMUSE TO INSPIRE TO DELIGHT IN ONE DAY GONE ONE NIGHT IT SOUNDS LIKE ITS FOR HIM LISTEN TO IT CLUES MAYBE? <3
The very end of this video is handwriting on the wall. There were two body doubles in "This is It". It does not take a rocket scientist to notice the difference. Everyone looks at the face. Look at the hands. If people started doing that, they would not have a rebuttle. Dr. Conrad Murry will not do a day in jail. :)
Well let's see what happens next because conrad murray is going to jail for manslaughter , do you think Michael is going to jump out of his makeup and say it was all fake I'm waiting to see if this is the truth
okay well I will be watching cause this is getting awefully interesting and I hope that you all are right that he is alive cause I've always liked Michael and wish the very best for him and his children and family it would be great if he is.
Good he should be locked up. He killed the most kindest and generous person in the world. Hopefully when he goes to prison the inmates there will find out what he did and beat the tarp out of him. He deserves to go to a regular prison, not a fancy one or even be sectioned off from the other inmates. He should have been arrested as soon as they found evidence linking him .We all lost a talented singer and in a way a bit of our own childhood(if you grew up listening to him) because of this moron.
There are so many discrepancies, so much to bring to this case.....and I believe that most of them are palpable, can be proved and brought in a court of law. The sine qua non condition is to really want to make justice for Michael and his family.
Murray was there to kill Michael. He was not there to save him. Still confused?? AEG will use this pseudo-doctor to wash their crime. He'll be charged with murder by negligence, that's all!!! If he has malpractice insurance, he'll be out of this mess in no time! They'll call this "Justice - Served" and put a big smirk on their faces. Even if conrad will be killed, eventually (by one of us, the fans), that would not mean anything. It is the beginning of the road, not the end of it.
'WARM TO THE TOUCH' = VITAL SIGNS! NOT POSSIBLE IF HE HAD NO PULSE SINCE 11:30am to be 'WARM TO THE TOUCH' at 2:30pm unless he HAD A WEAK PULSE!!! ALIVE! That's why ALL DOCTORS REFUSED TO SIGN DEATH CERTIFICATE!!!
Indications Michael was not having a 'heat attack' at 11:30am are Dr. Conrad Murray actions, who was on his CELL PHONE making 3 personal calls, NON to 911, when he claimed to be doing child CPR on Michael in bed.
In spite of saying he didn't call 911 for 1hour because he didn't know the address, he passed the chance to get the address from chef Kai in the kitchen.
Instead he asked Prince, an hour after Michael had no pulse, to call security upstairs. Conrad Murray could have walked at 11:30am in 5 min to the front gate and alert security to call 911; instead, he waits almost 1h. His explanation was that he could not find anyone around the house.
A visible contradiction to rehearsal video, on June 23, showing an athletic 135p Michael, doing a 4h sing/dance rehearsal without extreme signs of exhaustion
'WARM TO THE TOUCH' = VITAL SIGNS! NOT POSSIBLE IF HE HAD NO PULSE SINCE 11:30am to be 'WARM TO THE TOUCH' at 2:30pm unless he HAD A WEAK PULSE!!! ALIVE! That's why ALL DOCTORS REFUSED TO SIGN DEATH CERTIFICATE!!!
But nobody saw Murray inject Michael with probafol and there is no evidence of Murray ordering or handling probafol anywhere other then his own statements that are not backed up by any other evidence other then his own words!!
Further, if Dr. C Murray was compelled to confess to giving probafol to Michael, why is the security DVD, a feature always functional in the house, STOLEN!! Why STEAL THE SECURITY DVD IF YOU ARE GONNA CONFESS WILLINGLY TO THE CRIME!!!! Unless Dr. C Murray lied?!
If you are gonna give a patient, probafol anesthesia, why there was NO REVIVING equipment in the house!
Why didn't he run to the front gate as fast as he could to get 911 for 1 hour; but he did find the time to make 3 'personal' phone call, during the time he said he was doing child CPR on the bed on Michael!!
Probafol disappears from the body within minutes after the patient is taken off IV; the coroner wouldn't even look for probafol if Dr. C . Murray didn't tell them to look for probafol!!!
How can you even make a statement like this? Show me undeniable proof that MJ is alive and I will believe you. How can they charge Dr Murray with manslaughter of Michael Jackson WITHOUT MICHAEL'S BODY??
What u talkin bout? jaja u noticed I said "no doubt" meaning probably, I didn't say I was 100% certain. Anyway I'm not tryna prove a thing to u so I don't understand why ur making requests. smh' loco going 3 weeks back in comments to talk shit wtf!
The majority of his patients are here in Houston as well as his main clinic of Cardiology. I'm surprised they didn't air this where you live (then again since I live here it was a major issue of interviews w/ his nasty patients) so I drove my happy butt to his office and sure enough the jerk is back here at work. I'm not getting your Ireland yada yada bcuz I knew of him bfor the Jackson things (feel good) as I stated he is known 4 that among kids here (20yr olds). Come here I'll picket w/ya
I have I live across town from where the asswipe has his office!!!!!!!!! What shocks me is it's re-open and yes he is working yeah really smart and his "patients" are "happy" to have him back. When you live in Houston this doesn't get past you. He is WELL KNOWN HERE FOR BEING A DR. FEEL GOOD, why do you think the ass has his office in the Ghetto instead of our world reknown med. ctr. and it's not to help those ppl it's for ez money!
Something is going on, I do think this. A smart world wise guy like Mike just doesnt let this happen as a life and death "little" mistake. Mj needs to do anything he has to for him and his family, I undertand this and would never ever think less after all he has gone through and given us since he was a boy. He has changed our world, I think he is amazing. Love u MJ xx
I know how things go with high level crimes! The truth doesn't always prevail; my only interest is to have Michael found safely alive and declared alive! What explanation 'they' give I will not check in any way after MICHAEL is found alive!
Ever since I have been reaserching these events I came up with a perticular piece of evidence, I cannot tell you what it is, but I hope I will give Michael the opportunity to light that paper on fire!
My only interest is the same as yours, I want to see him alive and well and safe! Whatever your evidence is, I´m sure, you´ll have the opportunity to let MJ burn it! :)
I adsolutely do not care what explanation 'they' come up with! All I want is MICHAEL on CNN declared ALIVE! One's that's done, I promis to burn all the evidence and info I gathered! There is perticular piece of evidence and I can't say what, but if I ever meet michael I would like him to burn!
Hey, you would like him to burn? Aren´t you interested in his explanation, what really happened? And shouldn´t we be proud of ourselves, that we found out all this and didn´t believe all this f***** media stuff?
@ccsense First of all they need a body to charge Murry with. There isn't one (at least a dead one). Second all of this is really starting to make me mad......... MJ would not want his family to continue this nonsense.
And a body is the greatest piece of evidence you can have.
Do you know just how difficult it is to charge someone with murder when there is no body? I think it has only ever been achieved once in the history of the USA.
If you can prove to me that Michael Jackson is alive, I will believe you, but over the past 8 months of watching footage and reading articles about it all, I have yet to see any credible evidence to suggest Michael is alive.
I am not proving nothing I'm a Jesus fan I am just commenting . I hope he is alive but if he is not I hate to see people get their hopes up cause that would hurt them twice as much I hated to see that happen to Michael but if this is a hoax that would be really cruel I just don't think he would stoop that low and if he do it would surprise me
it is the eveidence from the body that allows the DA to charge DR Murray with injecting lethal amounts of propoful thus causing his death _ the courst will not allow a false autopsy and the DA i, the coroner and courts are certainly not in on any death hoax- its the fans that made up and are playing that game - not Michael _
Think about this 136ponds 5.9" is that to skinny to get adult CPR on a hard surface?! My lawyer is 136p 5.9" and he's cut not skinny! Look at rehersal footage June 23! That is not skinny, he has lean strong dancer's body! Not for CPR in bed!
Right! MJ wasn´t this thin, the media wanted us to believe, and he didn´t look like it on june 24, the last day of his rehersals.
I think, if there was a dangerous situation for MJ, based on whatever, he would´ve known about it earlier to plan the hoax very well....in the same way, he left clues for the fans.
ALL THESE SHOW MICHAEL UNPREPARED WITH THE CHILDREN, NO ATTEMPT FROM MURRAY TO GET IMMEDIATE HELP, MICHAEL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD CAUSE TO CALL PRINCE UPSTAIRS, therefore wasn't having a heart attack! PARIS & BLANKET TEARS PROVE MICHAEL DIDN'T PREPARE THE KIDS, PRINCE FIXATION WITH PUBLIC CAMERAS in DESPAIR and all of the kids ignoring the coffin, show MICHAEL KIDNAPPED, FORCED TO FAKE HIS DEATH & UNWILLING COOPERATING!
Those kids are suffering beyond what a normal human being can watch without feeling the pain as well!!!! If Michael were faking his death he wouldn't let the kids cry a tear ! According to the original statement chef kai who danced around the reason Prince was called upstairs and muddled something along the lines as '....perhaps to show him..., he was the only one with security clearance to go upstairs...'! And Kai NOT ASKED for address or to call 911!
What I was thinking about, and it´s just a thought, because noone is able to look inside another ones head...maybe the kids cried for another reason? Of what could have happed to their father if he wouldn´t have faked it? Just a thought.
The kids know their entire life, that their father is a man in the public eye, and the fact, that they wore masks, makes it clear.
Maybe it was MJ, who called for Prince, but we don´t know for sure, and maybe we never will.
15min. After no pulse, the body becomes sweaty, glands, stomach, intestines open causing all liquids to be excreted and sipping to one side of the body! 3hours with no pulse means swollen, cooled by the sweat other lost liquids! NOT WARM TO THE TOUCH AND LOOKING LIKE HE WAS SLEEPING! THAT IS ANESTHESIA! I am late, I got to go!
I agree with the fact, that all liquids (stomach content, intestinal contents) leave the body through the body´s natural orifices short after death. Three hours after death doesn´t always indicate a swollen body, it´s based on the temperature around and the circumstances of death and the position of the body. A dead person can look like sleeping, but not warm to the touch while not being covered.
I have a meeting to go to, please, continue the research on proving Michael alive! It's the only way it will be enough pressure for the bad guys (main suspect: Thomei) to let him go! AEG is not a suspect at all, because they had huge billion $ plans for Michael, only possible if he is alive! Thomei is Michael's former financial advisor that made Michael fear for his life and guess what!! Thomei was at the hospital!!!
Maybe we can talk later! :) Of course we´ll go on with the investigations, our research, I did with my sister, brought so much more to light....very interesting! ;)
MICHAEL is NOT FAKING HIS DEATH WILLINGLY BUT BY FORCE & THREATS!
All of Murray's actions, and the actions of the people around Michael on June 25th show Michael SURPRISED, TOTALY UNPREPARED, FEAR FOR HIS FAMILY, REACTIONS that can only be caused by DANGER!
MICHAEL WOULD NEVER ABANDON HIS KIDS! Dr. Murray's actions show he is a willing devout participant in the kidnapping! Murray did ask for $1mil a MONTH! For what?! Risking 3yrs of jail time?!?!
Maybe MJ was in danger, and faking his death was the only way out, would he really leave clue after clue to make clear, he isn´t dead? The danger would be immanent as yet.
When did Murray ask for $1 mio a month and whom did he ask for that? I heard about him wanting $150.000 a month and $300.000 in London, when the concerts would happen. This should be the contract between Murray, MJ and AEG, because his costs were paid of the production costs of the tour.
The family described Michael as 'still warm to the touch 3 hours later after he had a heart attack and was not revived, with a needle mark in his throat! The paramedics describe Michael as showing signs of lividity/blood settling 2hours before the family identifies the body as Michael J Jackson and warm to the touch!
We don´t know, if MJ was preparing his children, but I bet, he did.
Didn´t any member of the family say, that the children don´t use the internet or tv, that they are just watching dvd´s with movies? So they wouldn´t learn anything about it before being prepared by their father in the right way. If we assume, the needle mark in his throut is false like the autopsy report is, then nothing really happened.
A body could be warm three hours after death, if it was covered with a sheet or blanket, not as warm as a living body, but warm. And "warm to the touch" don´t tell anything about the real temperature.
But his body wasn´t covered, because CPR was done by paramedics and physicians at the UCLA.
Having a needle stuck in your throat is very very painful and can be a bloody mess! A technique used in some hospitals to subdue violent patients! Most times so painful a patient needs to be held down to take the pain and IMPOSSIBLE to self administer!
At the emergency room, Dr. Murray ran out right after Michael was brought in, without any explanation to the family or even waiting to see if his only patient would be revived! Why, what did he have to do in such a hurry?!
Let's see, you are suggesting that Michael planted that statement about the body producing sperm on the autopsy; BUT HE DIDN'T EMOTIONALLY PREPARE HIS CHILDREN!!!
La Toya said in her interview with Barbara Walters "20/20", that Murray was there, and "he mumbled a bunch of nothing", after MJ allegedly "died". She mentioned the same in a tabloid interview with a newspaper. So he has been at the UCLA right after MJ was pronounced dead at 2.26 pm.
Michael is described by associates at rehearsals at Staples Center as 'strait as a string' something confirmed in the movie and June 23 rehearsal!Also, Murray is back practicing medicine and is rumored to be interested on making a reality show!!!
You mean the photo, where MJ leaved the studio together with his kids? Maybe showing them unmasked was for a purpose, because he knew, he would "die" in some weeks.
The media was his biggest enemy in every situation of his life. The tabloid would slaughter his comeback tour wether if it would be great or not, and I think, he was very aware of it.
In my opinion, the rehearsals were meant to be a movie from the beginning, showing the master at work, the perfectionist, he always was.
Who would have so many different cameras to take any perspective? There had to be at least 5 cameras to make this movie, not only rehearsals.
Dr. Murray is indeed doing a reality show on tv, it began with his return to his office in Houston. But his lawyer said, it will be published, when the case is closed....how can he be sure of it, if MJ would be really dead? We´re talking about homicide by injection by another...and Murray is the "another"...
Dr. C Murray also claimed Michael had collapse veins and took many downers on a regular basis! Yet Michael, in a movie that was recording Michael's private rehearsal, not intended for public viewing, focused on Michael, shows Michael to be alert, passionate, inspiring, vivacious, attentive to details and very much protective and in charge of the creative process!
At one point he seemed to be even more alert then people he was working with, because they asked him if he wanted a q to signal his entrance to 'Smooth Criminal' and he says 'no I'll feel it'!
If there was no danger in Michael's life; why, just prior to June 25th, did he drag the kids out of their rooms and expose their private faces to the scrutiny of the paparazzi without even as much as fixing their hair?! Who would be a greater danger to the kids then the paparazzi!
So great a danger that Michael, unveiled even his little 7 year old son to the public!
Funny you send me a message in the autopsy it says on the last line he was producing sperm! Yes,I was actually writing that to you and then I thought, if he is released alive and finds this records he might get mad we talked about that private issue! I will apologize to him then; but yeah, that was a shocker because it was a well known rumor that Michael had an impact injury that prevented the production of sperm! Offcorse those statements are off the record!
LOL....yes! But, what if those statements are planned to be leaked by the master himself? To clear all the rumours about his allegedly impact injury, that prevented the sperm production? ;) As part of the plan of the hole hoax? Could be possible...! Then there´s no need to appologize. :)
If she said that on Larry King she corrected her statement! Because write after June 25th she said Prince went upstairs and she waited at the bottom of the stairs because she didn't have security clearance to go upstairs!!! And the Larry King interview was a week later! This statement was couple of days after June 25th!
Again discrepancies: such as Michael rumored to be too skinny for adult CPR but 4month later declared 136p 5.9"! Not to skinny for CPR!
Right, Kai said this, I´ve watched the video just before answering to your comment.
And another thing from the autopsy report is funny....he was actively producing sperm? Who cares? That´s nothing, which is tested in an regular autopsy, but in this case very good to clear rumours about him being the father of his children! ;)
The paramedics said that the 'body' at the house showed signs of lividity upon their arrival at around 12:21 and Murray said Michael wasn't breathing around 11:30 am declared dead at hospital at 2:30pm
As I said, nothing makes sense! We mentioned the weird fact about signs of lividity in our video about coincidences. Nobody would perform CPR on an abviously dead person! by the way, noone of the UCLA did mention anything about MJ´s "death" as yet...I wonder why! ;)
If he showed signs of lividity/ blood settling from lack of pulse at 12:30pm and his heart was never started again, according to paramedics and doctors, WHY 'WARM TO THE TOUCH'! 3h with no pulse and 2h after signs of lividity. By 2:30pm he should have been cold, wet clammy skin! Not 'warm to the touch and looking like he was sleeping'!
I have checked my files and chef Kai exact words were '...he just came running down the stairs...didn't say what was wrong...just for Prince to go upstairs and go get security..., didn't tell me what was wrong...'! Besides that, there is several interviews where she confirms that statements!
2 requests: #1 Prince to go upstairs #2 her to get security! At no point did Murray ask Kai the address or to call 911! After, when ambulance got there she was praying with the kids in the kitchen!
At the Larry King show Kai said, that Murray told her "Go, get Prince, call the security" and she said, that she dropped everything, got Prince, who met Murray on the stairs, but stayed downstairs....and the paramedics arrived within minutes...and they (Kai with the kids) prayed together.
We both are right with that. :) There is no reason for calling Prince and not saying, what´s wrong or that he didn´t say "call 911", you´re right.
Dr. C Murray, graduate degree in CA, has invalid medical license, has several malpractice judgment leans on most of his properties, has about 6 kids by 4 women most of which are seeking child support, and was seeking bankruptcy in LA and LV prior to being hired by Michael?! He also gave Michael, 136pd 5.9" man baby CPR on the BED!
Dr. Murray desperately screams for Prince to go upstairs after 'his father flat lines', & doesn't tell chef Kai, who is witnessing Murray run into the kitchen and call Prince upstairs , to call 911!
Dr. Murray doesn't ask chef Kai for the address or to call 911, even those he said he didn't call 911 because he didn't know the address and couldn't find anyone in the house to ask for the address! But he did run into chef Kai when he called Prince upstairs! Why not ask chef Kai the address?!
Why, when your only patient just had a heart attack you don't get help from chef Kai who was feeding Prince when Murray came screaming down the stairs for Prince to go upstairs ?!
Why did Dr. Murray get on the phone and make numerous 'personal calls' for 20 min and wait 40min before having the bodyguard call 911! Was Prince doing CPR on his father?! If not why was Prince called upstairs?!
For what purpose would Dr. Murray scream for Prince be go upstairs and according to chef Kai, who was feeding the kids when Murray run down the stairs; why Prince and not 911 !!
For what purpose did Prince get called upstairs ?! Who other then Michael, alive, and attempting to worn his oldest son of an unknown danger, would have any reason to call a 12yr old boy in a room with his unconscious father?!
For what purpose would Dr. Murray, when he was suppose to be saving Michael's life, after a heart attack, when every second counts, for what purpose would he call upstairs Prince!
There is only one man, on 25th of June, who had 'cause to call Prince upstairs: MICHAEL J. JACKSON and that could be done only if HE WAS NOT HAVING A HEART ATTACK! Michael would never abandon his kids; but, he will do and say anything to keep them safe!
Dr. Murray calling Prince upstairs, instead of 911 & waited 40min before calling 911! Dr. Murray calling Prince upstairs show Michael ALIVE, SURPRISED, TOTALY UNPREPARED, FEAR FOR HIS FAMILY, REACTIONS that can only be caused by DANGER and SURVIVAL INSTINCTS!
MICHAEL WOULD NEVER ABANDON HIS KIDS and he would never leave the kids emotionally unprepared! PRINCE, PARIS and BLANKET were traumatized and hurt so much it hurts to watch!
Yet, at the memorial they all cried but, COMPLETELY ignored their father's coffin and desperately starred into the news cameras!!
Why kids fixated on media cameras and not their father's coffin? These kids were sheltered from the media, and if Michael was 'safely faking his death', why are those kids to this day so traumatized! What happened when Prince got called upstairs? What did he see? What was he told?!
the way conrad murray sways "Twooth" Is the same way michael sings it in the who is it acapella version. I have no doubt in my mind that Conrad Murray is Michael jackson in prostetic makeup. It makes so much sense. When they talk they also sound very very similar
I just really appreciated him admitting that he didn't write most of the songs, and that the ones he did write were just random words that he looked up in a dictionary (which we all pretty much knew already, but its nice to hear him finally say it.) I learned alot about him in general too, like the fact that he has a tattoo of Hulk Hogan on his back. Who knew! Well, I assume some of his die-hard fans already knew, I am admittedly just a recent fan of his within the last couple of weeks in fact.
Imagine if AEG/Sony is in on this "hoax" idea - and in reality it is murder but disguised as a hoax to make them rich and hide the truth? people are seeing the movie TII 6 x's sometimes!!
Think about all the weird statements of the coroner, the LAPD, the family, MJ´s environment....lots of things doesn´t make sence! Just for example, the LAPD would never talk about ongoing ivestigations, less than ever they will name the "mystery date"of finishing their investigations!
ANYONE NOTICE MJ SAYING "YOU ARE ALL VEGETABLES AND THEY HATE YOU" IN TII? IF not, perhaps there are multiple versions of the same movie with different messages!!
I feel sick just thinking that if it is murder, there are some people making a lot of money making us think that its a hoax. His sisters think its murder and half the family did not view This Is It - angry that MJ did not have the last word on the project. What does that mean?
Homicide doesn´t mean, a crime is committed! it´s just a assessment of the coroner about the cause of death!
MJ´s sisters aren´t very convincing while talking about their brother´s "death", telling weird stories which doesn´t add up! First La Toya said, she will not watch "TII", because of the reason you mentioned, later she watched it...! Also weird! It´s not clear whom to trust!
Yes, I didn't mean homicide. I meant theory of "murder." Rebbie and Randy both stated that they would not watch it b.c MJ did not have the final say in the project. The word "murder" by Joe, Latoya and Janet is serious accusation - isn't it?
Honestly, what should they say instead? "Dr. Murray may have killed MJ, but let him be a free man"? The whole world is focusing on this doctor as the only "suspect". But isn´t it curious, that as well La Toya as Janet call him a murderer since a very short time? MJ "died" in june, Dr. Murray was the "suspect" since august, and now the sisters are talking about him as a murderer??? And Joe Jackson only mentioned "it was foul play".
I like this video. I'm glad u picked up on the fact that there is an actor Conrad Murray and a doctor Conrad Murray - in other words the individual who supposedly murdered Michael Jackson. I think that possibly Dr Conrad Murray could have done the youtube vid ages ago before MJ's "death" (so as well as a doc he is an actor playing his part in the hoax) and which would also be the reason why we notice differences with Dr Murray when we see different photos/videos of him, maybe.
The psychitrist the Chander's used in the MJ fradulant extortion case, commited suicide. Martin Bashit has a brain tumor. Evan Chandler commited suicide...
REST IN PEACE MICHAEL! I AM SO SORRY YOU WERE A VICTIM OF THESE SICK MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE.
check out the death hoax forum is gilda's or dorothy's face on the dollar bills murray paid child support with ,if you want the link it's on my channel.
Hiiiii Süße! Ich glaube auch nicht wirklich, dass es die gleichen Personen sind.. Sie sehen sich zwar ähnlich, aber ich kann mir nicht wirklich vorstellen, das ein Mensch so schnell soviel zunimmt.. denk* Das Video ist wiedermal erste Sahne geworden! Ihr 2 seid ein echtes Dreamteam .. lach* Ich verneuge mich vor Euch... :-))
could it be that MJ paid Dr. Murray to pose as him to make the vid and take those shots like he did with Dave Dave??? bcuz the pictures look alike BUT don't like do ya get me...they look like they cud b brothers not the same person....idk just my opinion
WOW....Thank u so much MJJ2gurl... it is really welL done research... I never realized all these things in da way...... OMG!!!
Your make me "THINK".......ya vid and the rumor in FBOOK, give me so much hope..... I dicede ..... I believe... MJ must be alive..... PLEASE..... MJ COME BACK... PLEASE BABE....
At 5:44, look all the way over to the right. It seems to say Board Cerification(maybe) and in the middle lists cardiology, .... to the right again it says 'unknown' as in NOT certified...Proof maybe that the good doctor does not exist....
I believe both pics posted by TMZ are the same man, Dr. Murray. From July to November, 4 months later, he can pack those pounds on. I'm not saying that TMZ isn't in on the whole thing, but the pics look like him. On TMZ, they are stating that Dr. Murray's lawyer is a man named Chris Aaron. Great video girls!!! ^_^
You´re right, both pics of TMZ are the same guy, but these pics are originally from "news of the world" from august11, 2009! TMZ showed these pics as "new" in november!
All the "Murray-guys" were shown in the time between the end of july and august 18! So, it´s curious, that they look so different!
@sjackson2596 In all honesty, I got it real and there are lots of questions left after the trial. Whatever you think, it´s up to you but judging others because of their different opinion is nothing better than the media trash! Get off my page and stop watching hoax videos if you´re convinced that MJ is dead. Bye!
MJJ20Girl 1 month ago
Wonder if the California Judge will be reprimanded...not for the sentence...but his obvious personal hostile attack of Dr. Murray in his courtroom today.! How can the Jackson family beleive that he killed MJ? He has lost his MD license and his career. Enough. He did not kill MJ. in my opinion.
minky55555 3 months ago
murray is at liberty
DSK is already incarcerated
American justice is strange .....
kennikold 9 months ago
MJ is alive. Dr Conrad Murray has been paid a LARGE amount of money. He will not be going to prison...he is protected. He is being used as a scapegoat. His 'God' is a Masonic Lodge one. The death of MJ was a hoax. MJ was 500 million in debt and 200 million + has been generated since his death. Mj wanted out. He appeared at his own funeral dressed as an elderly man. He appeared at the 2010 Grammy's as one of the Jackson cousins. His make-up artists use prosthetic disguises for him.
JillAngie3 10 months ago
Are you ready for BAM?
tick, tock, tick, tock.....
King of pop is back....
FinalCountdownMJ 10 months ago
ojala i pague en la carcel este mal. hombre michael jackson no se lo merece
"MICHEL JACKSON le secet d'une voix"
(MICHEL JACKSON EL SECRETO DE LA VOS)
I LOVE YOU
MAN IN TE MIRROR
HEAL THE WORLD......
jaguaro38 11 months ago
Some think that Murray changed his name, in Feb. '09, from Robert Earl Carter.
It is not unusual for a cardiologist to be summoned for general practices. Specialists should have knowledge of a general practitioner; fundamental to being a specialist. Many don't which is a problem, I'm just saying - - -
cawobeth 1 year ago
Honestly? This video makes NO sense whatsoever.
"This is a man named Conrad Murray. This is also a man named Conrad Murray. One is african-american, one is a white brit. They've different height and the african-american Conrad have hands. What does this mean?"
WTF!?
Meglio85 1 year ago
@Meglio85 In the IMDb data base you find the name "Conrad Murray", who´s playing a role in the film "24 hours Party People". Most took the view that this must be Dr. Murray, the physician, but it´s wrong. The black actor, who´s compared to Dr. Murray, is Lennie James, and the name Conrad Murray, which is found on the cast list, belongs to a white guy, the british actor Conrad Murray.
MJJ20Girl 1 year ago
Nice you noted that it's a hoax
TheChouhette 1 year ago
Idiots dont consider the fact that there might be 2 Conrad Murrays out there now. . .
fmth1311 1 year ago
Murray is real. He's been in court and photographed at a pool with his baby and girlfriend.
LynRuiz 1 year ago
@LynRuiz Hi, of course, Dr. Murray is a real person, or did anybody say the opposite? He´s not an actor, he´s a real physician.
MJJ20Girl 1 year ago
da troot will prevail...! ;)
oh yes it will dr murry..! ;) oh yes it will! :D
TH4JBndMJ 1 year ago
LOL! Troot!
MosaicMaiden 1 year ago
Only God will have the last word on what happens to this man. If he was working under an expired license, I believe that AG would not have qualified him to be MJ's doctor for the tours. Michael had the resources to check this man's credentials. For MJ's sake, I hope justice is served.
usaearthling 1 year ago
You know what i have realised? Whenever i see those little image clips of doctor conrad murray saying "the truth will prevail", it looks like he has vitiligo. It also looks ilke there was MAKEUP on his face! Even stranger, there is a picture of conrad murray, and his hand's skin tone is disfigured. No, not in a vitligo way, but it looks like there are 2 shades, one on one side, one on the other.
ATrueMJFan 1 year ago
All I could think of is ... in life, we meet so many people. We welcome them into our lives & share laughter with them. But no one knows y these people happen upon us in life. So many of us meet our killers & don't even know it until it is too late. MJ was trying to stay safe - for his kids and I am sure for his fans. The interview with nurse C says it all. She said it "Michael said, but I will have a DOCTOR! I will be SAFE!" Oh Michael, if only we could turn back the time! RIP! Love you always!
decision2change 1 year ago
and when he pops up out of nowhere what will you all say then huh? its ghost! is it scary?
LachoyC 1 year ago
@LachoyC What we will say? "Hello, welcome back! It´s all for love, L.O.V.E!"
MJJ20Girl 1 year ago
@MJJ20Girl well yeah i know the beLIEvers will i will to, but to everyone that has fought so hard against us to say hes dead get over it that is what i want a front row seat for to see all the mouths drop and faces hit the floor
LachoyC 1 year ago
@LachoyC You´re great, hun! :) Make a reservation for me too, please! And I´ll bring the camera with me! LOL
MJJ20Girl 1 year ago
you got it
LachoyC 1 year ago
plus i want to see him in person cuz hes so hot i wont like flip out or go all crazed fan on him but i might drool an tell him hes sexy
LachoyC 1 year ago
Why do people take the time to watch the hoax videos if their so offended?This isnt about playing games. You can see the big picture when your mind is open. When theres so many coincidences its usually because its not a coincidence.
rynobeelee 1 year ago
Michael has to much intergrity and character to turn thi sinto a GAME of clue or charades _ that would be dispicable- regardless of if he is alive or not_The DHF made up this game _not Michael _ he is NOT playing - dont know who they are follwing down the rabbit hole _ but its NOT Michael Jackson _ I fee very sad for them :(
ilovemichaeljackson7 2 years ago
This was no game to MJ. This was very very real. This goes way deeper than you know. It has been going on for 10 years. Yeah there is a body. I do agree there. :)
naturesroses 2 years ago
i just think its interesting how 7 months later, Conrad Murray is still not in jail... Considering how much "evidence" points towards malpractice.
kristineurie44 2 years ago
There is nothing odd about it.
He wont be in jail untill the jury finds him GUILTY when he goes to court for the manslaughter of Michael Jackson. The case starts in april I belive
Michael case took many month of ivestigation and mont5hs after his arrrest before it went to court -
ilovemichaeljackson7 2 years ago
@gotautis well wouldnt mikes family and fans be proud but angry at him at the same time
plus if someone fakes their own death they will get arrested but likely chances are is that michael jackson is dead
MichaelJackson123476 2 years ago
I HEARD THAT THE DR. DUDE WAS ARRESTED FOR LIKE 4 DAYS AND NOW IT'S 4 YEARS IT SAID BCUZ OF MAN SLAUHTER OR SUMTHIN.... DA TROOT LOL WHICH U ALL SHOULD NO IT IS THE TRUTH! ANYWAY HOPE MJ IS ALIVE!! omg u no th mayor from ghost mj plays i saw a guy who looked like the mayor but skinnier??? weird! I HOPE HE IS ALIVE THO I WANNA MEET MY IDOL!! U NO THE SONG " GONE TO SOON" HE SAID BORN TO AMUSE TO INSPIRE TO DELIGHT IN ONE DAY GONE ONE NIGHT IT SOUNDS LIKE ITS FOR HIM LISTEN TO IT CLUES MAYBE? <3
amy96525 2 years ago
stop kidding yourself he is DEAD and that is fact i miss him to but he is dead i'm sorry to say
biatches1990 2 years ago
Stop wartching hoax videos, if you don´t believe, MJ is alive!
Sorry to say that, but he´s alive!
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
there is nothing wrong with people watching or expessig thier ideas
escpecially Fans of Michaels
you should treat them like family
as they love him too _ remeber _ Its all about L.O.V.E -
I see many mistakes and im sure you are seeking truth RIGHT ?? not just trying to spread your own agenda I hope but TRUTH with your facts -
ilovemichaeljackson7 2 years ago
I believe most of these people that don't believe it did not spend 40+ years with MJ. :)
naturesroses 2 years ago
The very end of this video is handwriting on the wall. There were two body doubles in "This is It". It does not take a rocket scientist to notice the difference. Everyone looks at the face. Look at the hands. If people started doing that, they would not have a rebuttle. Dr. Conrad Murry will not do a day in jail. :)
naturesroses 2 years ago
Well let's see what happens next because conrad murray is going to jail for manslaughter , do you think Michael is going to jump out of his makeup and say it was all fake I'm waiting to see if this is the truth
gotautis 2 years ago
He won't do a day in jail. ;)
naturesroses 2 years ago
okay well I will be watching cause this is getting awefully interesting and I hope that you all are right that he is alive cause I've always liked Michael and wish the very best for him and his children and family it would be great if he is.
gotautis 2 years ago
Brian Oxman has a FB page talking about this case.
MichealJacksionScoop 2 years ago
Good he should be locked up. He killed the most kindest and generous person in the world. Hopefully when he goes to prison the inmates there will find out what he did and beat the tarp out of him. He deserves to go to a regular prison, not a fancy one or even be sectioned off from the other inmates. He should have been arrested as soon as they found evidence linking him .We all lost a talented singer and in a way a bit of our own childhood(if you grew up listening to him) because of this moron.
Pepsicarwash 2 years ago
There are so many discrepancies, so much to bring to this case.....and I believe that most of them are palpable, can be proved and brought in a court of law. The sine qua non condition is to really want to make justice for Michael and his family.
AliceQQQ 2 years ago
Murray was there to kill Michael. He was not there to save him. Still confused?? AEG will use this pseudo-doctor to wash their crime. He'll be charged with murder by negligence, that's all!!! If he has malpractice insurance, he'll be out of this mess in no time! They'll call this "Justice - Served" and put a big smirk on their faces. Even if conrad will be killed, eventually (by one of us, the fans), that would not mean anything. It is the beginning of the road, not the end of it.
AliceQQQ 2 years ago
'WARM TO THE TOUCH' = VITAL SIGNS! NOT POSSIBLE IF HE HAD NO PULSE SINCE 11:30am to be 'WARM TO THE TOUCH' at 2:30pm unless he HAD A WEAK PULSE!!! ALIVE! That's why ALL DOCTORS REFUSED TO SIGN DEATH CERTIFICATE!!!
ccsense 2 years ago
Indications Michael was not having a 'heat attack' at 11:30am are Dr. Conrad Murray actions, who was on his CELL PHONE making 3 personal calls, NON to 911, when he claimed to be doing child CPR on Michael in bed.
ccsense 2 years ago
In spite of saying he didn't call 911 for 1hour because he didn't know the address, he passed the chance to get the address from chef Kai in the kitchen.
ccsense 2 years ago
Instead he asked Prince, an hour after Michael had no pulse, to call security upstairs. Conrad Murray could have walked at 11:30am in 5 min to the front gate and alert security to call 911; instead, he waits almost 1h. His explanation was that he could not find anyone around the house.
ccsense 2 years ago
Conrad Murray states that he performed child CPR on the bed on Michael because Michael was to skinny / fragile to get CPR on a hard surface.
ccsense 2 years ago
A visible contradiction to rehearsal video, on June 23, showing an athletic 135p Michael, doing a 4h sing/dance rehearsal without extreme signs of exhaustion
ccsense 2 years ago
'WARM TO THE TOUCH' = VITAL SIGNS! NOT POSSIBLE IF HE HAD NO PULSE SINCE 11:30am to be 'WARM TO THE TOUCH' at 2:30pm unless he HAD A WEAK PULSE!!! ALIVE! That's why ALL DOCTORS REFUSED TO SIGN DEATH CERTIFICATE!!!
ccsense 2 years ago
C. Murray confessed to administering probafol to Michael! Yet there is no evidence to connect Murray to probafol anywhere except in his statements!
Why would a man confess to a crime nobody saw him commit and has no evidence to show he committed?!
ccsense 2 years ago
But nobody saw Murray inject Michael with probafol and there is no evidence of Murray ordering or handling probafol anywhere other then his own statements that are not backed up by any other evidence other then his own words!!
ccsense 2 years ago
Further, if Dr. C Murray was compelled to confess to giving probafol to Michael, why is the security DVD, a feature always functional in the house, STOLEN!! Why STEAL THE SECURITY DVD IF YOU ARE GONNA CONFESS WILLINGLY TO THE CRIME!!!! Unless Dr. C Murray lied?!
ccsense 2 years ago
If you are gonna give a patient, probafol anesthesia, why there was NO REVIVING equipment in the house!
Why didn't he run to the front gate as fast as he could to get 911 for 1 hour; but he did find the time to make 3 'personal' phone call, during the time he said he was doing child CPR on the bed on Michael!!
ccsense 2 years ago
Probafol disappears from the body within minutes after the patient is taken off IV; the coroner wouldn't even look for probafol if Dr. C . Murray didn't tell them to look for probafol!!!
ccsense 2 years ago
Good vid, there's definitely something up with Dr Murray and Mike's alive no doubt.
JBoomie 2 years ago
'Mike's alive no doubt'
How can you even make a statement like this? Show me undeniable proof that MJ is alive and I will believe you. How can they charge Dr Murray with manslaughter of Michael Jackson WITHOUT MICHAEL'S BODY??
brentonio 2 years ago
What u talkin bout? jaja u noticed I said "no doubt" meaning probably, I didn't say I was 100% certain. Anyway I'm not tryna prove a thing to u so I don't understand why ur making requests. smh' loco going 3 weeks back in comments to talk shit wtf!
JBoomie 2 years ago
The majority of his patients are here in Houston as well as his main clinic of Cardiology. I'm surprised they didn't air this where you live (then again since I live here it was a major issue of interviews w/ his nasty patients) so I drove my happy butt to his office and sure enough the jerk is back here at work. I'm not getting your Ireland yada yada bcuz I knew of him bfor the Jackson things (feel good) as I stated he is known 4 that among kids here (20yr olds). Come here I'll picket w/ya
LacyB71 2 years ago
I have I live across town from where the asswipe has his office!!!!!!!!! What shocks me is it's re-open and yes he is working yeah really smart and his "patients" are "happy" to have him back. When you live in Houston this doesn't get past you. He is WELL KNOWN HERE FOR BEING A DR. FEEL GOOD, why do you think the ass has his office in the Ghetto instead of our world reknown med. ctr. and it's not to help those ppl it's for ez money!
LacyB71 2 years ago
Something is going on, I do think this. A smart world wise guy like Mike just doesnt let this happen as a life and death "little" mistake. Mj needs to do anything he has to for him and his family, I undertand this and would never ever think less after all he has gone through and given us since he was a boy. He has changed our world, I think he is amazing. Love u MJ xx
LillySydney 2 years ago 2
Diddo!
ccsense 2 years ago
Thanks! ;)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
I know how things go with high level crimes! The truth doesn't always prevail; my only interest is to have Michael found safely alive and declared alive! What explanation 'they' give I will not check in any way after MICHAEL is found alive!
Ever since I have been reaserching these events I came up with a perticular piece of evidence, I cannot tell you what it is, but I hope I will give Michael the opportunity to light that paper on fire!
ccsense 2 years ago
Okay, I understand.
My only interest is the same as yours, I want to see him alive and well and safe! Whatever your evidence is, I´m sure, you´ll have the opportunity to let MJ burn it! :)
By the way, nice to meet you! :)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
I adsolutely do not care what explanation 'they' come up with! All I want is MICHAEL on CNN declared ALIVE! One's that's done, I promis to burn all the evidence and info I gathered! There is perticular piece of evidence and I can't say what, but if I ever meet michael I would like him to burn!
ccsense 2 years ago
Hey, you would like him to burn? Aren´t you interested in his explanation, what really happened? And shouldn´t we be proud of ourselves, that we found out all this and didn´t believe all this f***** media stuff?
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
@MJJ20Girl I think a lot of people need to fess up here. :)
naturesroses 2 years ago
@ccsense First of all they need a body to charge Murry with. There isn't one (at least a dead one). Second all of this is really starting to make me mad......... MJ would not want his family to continue this nonsense.
naturesroses 2 years ago
But Murray has been charged. And you cannot charge someone with manslaughter or murder without a dead body.
brentonio 2 years ago
Wrong. You cannot convict without evidence. :)
naturesroses 2 years ago
And a body is the greatest piece of evidence you can have.
Do you know just how difficult it is to charge someone with murder when there is no body? I think it has only ever been achieved once in the history of the USA.
If you can prove to me that Michael Jackson is alive, I will believe you, but over the past 8 months of watching footage and reading articles about it all, I have yet to see any credible evidence to suggest Michael is alive.
brentonio 2 years ago
What body? There is not a body......;)
naturesroses 2 years ago
That's your argument? Fine. Your attempts to persuade me to believe you have failed.
Again, another MJ fan cannot prove Michael is alive. You're all delusional.
brentonio 2 years ago
I am not proving nothing I'm a Jesus fan I am just commenting . I hope he is alive but if he is not I hate to see people get their hopes up cause that would hurt them twice as much I hated to see that happen to Michael but if this is a hoax that would be really cruel I just don't think he would stoop that low and if he do it would surprise me
gotautis 2 years ago
Persuade you? I don't need to persaude you. I don't want to persude you. You are entitled to your opinion. :) Cheers.......
naturesroses 2 years ago
Thank you
gotautis 2 years ago
Of course there is a body
it is the eveidence from the body that allows the DA to charge DR Murray with injecting lethal amounts of propoful thus causing his death _ the courst will not allow a false autopsy and the DA i, the coroner and courts are certainly not in on any death hoax- its the fans that made up and are playing that game - not Michael _
ilovemichaeljackson7 2 years ago
I have a friend that was a DA. She was the first woman in Oregon to ever convict a person for murder without a body.....
naturesroses 2 years ago
Think about this 136ponds 5.9" is that to skinny to get adult CPR on a hard surface?! My lawyer is 136p 5.9" and he's cut not skinny! Look at rehersal footage June 23! That is not skinny, he has lean strong dancer's body! Not for CPR in bed!
ccsense 2 years ago
Right! MJ wasn´t this thin, the media wanted us to believe, and he didn´t look like it on june 24, the last day of his rehersals.
I think, if there was a dangerous situation for MJ, based on whatever, he would´ve known about it earlier to plan the hoax very well....in the same way, he left clues for the fans.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
ALL THESE SHOW MICHAEL UNPREPARED WITH THE CHILDREN, NO ATTEMPT FROM MURRAY TO GET IMMEDIATE HELP, MICHAEL IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD CAUSE TO CALL PRINCE UPSTAIRS, therefore wasn't having a heart attack! PARIS & BLANKET TEARS PROVE MICHAEL DIDN'T PREPARE THE KIDS, PRINCE FIXATION WITH PUBLIC CAMERAS in DESPAIR and all of the kids ignoring the coffin, show MICHAEL KIDNAPPED, FORCED TO FAKE HIS DEATH & UNWILLING COOPERATING!
Now I am late!
ccsense 2 years ago
Those kids are suffering beyond what a normal human being can watch without feeling the pain as well!!!! If Michael were faking his death he wouldn't let the kids cry a tear ! According to the original statement chef kai who danced around the reason Prince was called upstairs and muddled something along the lines as '....perhaps to show him..., he was the only one with security clearance to go upstairs...'! And Kai NOT ASKED for address or to call 911!
ccsense 2 years ago
What I was thinking about, and it´s just a thought, because noone is able to look inside another ones head...maybe the kids cried for another reason? Of what could have happed to their father if he wouldn´t have faked it? Just a thought.
The kids know their entire life, that their father is a man in the public eye, and the fact, that they wore masks, makes it clear.
Maybe it was MJ, who called for Prince, but we don´t know for sure, and maybe we never will.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
15min. After no pulse, the body becomes sweaty, glands, stomach, intestines open causing all liquids to be excreted and sipping to one side of the body! 3hours with no pulse means swollen, cooled by the sweat other lost liquids! NOT WARM TO THE TOUCH AND LOOKING LIKE HE WAS SLEEPING! THAT IS ANESTHESIA! I am late, I got to go!
ccsense 2 years ago
I agree with the fact, that all liquids (stomach content, intestinal contents) leave the body through the body´s natural orifices short after death. Three hours after death doesn´t always indicate a swollen body, it´s based on the temperature around and the circumstances of death and the position of the body. A dead person can look like sleeping, but not warm to the touch while not being covered.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
I have a meeting to go to, please, continue the research on proving Michael alive! It's the only way it will be enough pressure for the bad guys (main suspect: Thomei) to let him go! AEG is not a suspect at all, because they had huge billion $ plans for Michael, only possible if he is alive! Thomei is Michael's former financial advisor that made Michael fear for his life and guess what!! Thomei was at the hospital!!!
ccsense 2 years ago
Maybe we can talk later! :) Of course we´ll go on with the investigations, our research, I did with my sister, brought so much more to light....very interesting! ;)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
MICHAEL is NOT FAKING HIS DEATH WILLINGLY BUT BY FORCE & THREATS!
All of Murray's actions, and the actions of the people around Michael on June 25th show Michael SURPRISED, TOTALY UNPREPARED, FEAR FOR HIS FAMILY, REACTIONS that can only be caused by DANGER!
MICHAEL WOULD NEVER ABANDON HIS KIDS! Dr. Murray's actions show he is a willing devout participant in the kidnapping! Murray did ask for $1mil a MONTH! For what?! Risking 3yrs of jail time?!?!
ccsense 2 years ago
Maybe MJ was in danger, and faking his death was the only way out, would he really leave clue after clue to make clear, he isn´t dead? The danger would be immanent as yet.
When did Murray ask for $1 mio a month and whom did he ask for that? I heard about him wanting $150.000 a month and $300.000 in London, when the concerts would happen. This should be the contract between Murray, MJ and AEG, because his costs were paid of the production costs of the tour.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
The family described Michael as 'still warm to the touch 3 hours later after he had a heart attack and was not revived, with a needle mark in his throat! The paramedics describe Michael as showing signs of lividity/blood settling 2hours before the family identifies the body as Michael J Jackson and warm to the touch!
ccsense 2 years ago
We don´t know, if MJ was preparing his children, but I bet, he did.
Didn´t any member of the family say, that the children don´t use the internet or tv, that they are just watching dvd´s with movies? So they wouldn´t learn anything about it before being prepared by their father in the right way. If we assume, the needle mark in his throut is false like the autopsy report is, then nothing really happened.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
A body could be warm three hours after death, if it was covered with a sheet or blanket, not as warm as a living body, but warm. And "warm to the touch" don´t tell anything about the real temperature.
But his body wasn´t covered, because CPR was done by paramedics and physicians at the UCLA.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Having a needle stuck in your throat is very very painful and can be a bloody mess! A technique used in some hospitals to subdue violent patients! Most times so painful a patient needs to be held down to take the pain and IMPOSSIBLE to self administer!
ccsense 2 years ago
At the emergency room, Dr. Murray ran out right after Michael was brought in, without any explanation to the family or even waiting to see if his only patient would be revived! Why, what did he have to do in such a hurry?!
Let's see, you are suggesting that Michael planted that statement about the body producing sperm on the autopsy; BUT HE DIDN'T EMOTIONALLY PREPARE HIS CHILDREN!!!
ccsense 2 years ago
La Toya said in her interview with Barbara Walters "20/20", that Murray was there, and "he mumbled a bunch of nothing", after MJ allegedly "died". She mentioned the same in a tabloid interview with a newspaper. So he has been at the UCLA right after MJ was pronounced dead at 2.26 pm.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Michael is described by associates at rehearsals at Staples Center as 'strait as a string' something confirmed in the movie and June 23 rehearsal!Also, Murray is back practicing medicine and is rumored to be interested on making a reality show!!!
ccsense 2 years ago
You mean the photo, where MJ leaved the studio together with his kids? Maybe showing them unmasked was for a purpose, because he knew, he would "die" in some weeks.
The media was his biggest enemy in every situation of his life. The tabloid would slaughter his comeback tour wether if it would be great or not, and I think, he was very aware of it.
In my opinion, the rehearsals were meant to be a movie from the beginning, showing the master at work, the perfectionist, he always was.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Who would have so many different cameras to take any perspective? There had to be at least 5 cameras to make this movie, not only rehearsals.
Dr. Murray is indeed doing a reality show on tv, it began with his return to his office in Houston. But his lawyer said, it will be published, when the case is closed....how can he be sure of it, if MJ would be really dead? We´re talking about homicide by injection by another...and Murray is the "another"...
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Dr. C Murray also claimed Michael had collapse veins and took many downers on a regular basis! Yet Michael, in a movie that was recording Michael's private rehearsal, not intended for public viewing, focused on Michael, shows Michael to be alert, passionate, inspiring, vivacious, attentive to details and very much protective and in charge of the creative process!
ccsense 2 years ago
At one point he seemed to be even more alert then people he was working with, because they asked him if he wanted a q to signal his entrance to 'Smooth Criminal' and he says 'no I'll feel it'!
ccsense 2 years ago
If there was no danger in Michael's life; why, just prior to June 25th, did he drag the kids out of their rooms and expose their private faces to the scrutiny of the paparazzi without even as much as fixing their hair?! Who would be a greater danger to the kids then the paparazzi!
So great a danger that Michael, unveiled even his little 7 year old son to the public!
ccsense 2 years ago
Funny you send me a message in the autopsy it says on the last line he was producing sperm! Yes,I was actually writing that to you and then I thought, if he is released alive and finds this records he might get mad we talked about that private issue! I will apologize to him then; but yeah, that was a shocker because it was a well known rumor that Michael had an impact injury that prevented the production of sperm! Offcorse those statements are off the record!
ccsense 2 years ago
LOL....yes! But, what if those statements are planned to be leaked by the master himself? To clear all the rumours about his allegedly impact injury, that prevented the sperm production? ;) As part of the plan of the hole hoax? Could be possible...! Then there´s no need to appologize. :)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
If she said that on Larry King she corrected her statement! Because write after June 25th she said Prince went upstairs and she waited at the bottom of the stairs because she didn't have security clearance to go upstairs!!! And the Larry King interview was a week later! This statement was couple of days after June 25th!
Again discrepancies: such as Michael rumored to be too skinny for adult CPR but 4month later declared 136p 5.9"! Not to skinny for CPR!
ccsense 2 years ago
Right, Kai said this, I´ve watched the video just before answering to your comment.
And another thing from the autopsy report is funny....he was actively producing sperm? Who cares? That´s nothing, which is tested in an regular autopsy, but in this case very good to clear rumours about him being the father of his children! ;)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Here's the STATEMENT THAT SHOWS MICHAEL ALIVE!
The paramedics said that the 'body' at the house showed signs of lividity upon their arrival at around 12:21 and Murray said Michael wasn't breathing around 11:30 am declared dead at hospital at 2:30pm
ccsense 2 years ago
As I said, nothing makes sense! We mentioned the weird fact about signs of lividity in our video about coincidences. Nobody would perform CPR on an abviously dead person! by the way, noone of the UCLA did mention anything about MJ´s "death" as yet...I wonder why! ;)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
FAMILY called in to I'd Michael described Michael as warm to the touch and looking like he was sleeping, with needle mark on his throat!
ccsense 2 years ago
If he showed signs of lividity/ blood settling from lack of pulse at 12:30pm and his heart was never started again, according to paramedics and doctors, WHY 'WARM TO THE TOUCH'! 3h with no pulse and 2h after signs of lividity. By 2:30pm he should have been cold, wet clammy skin! Not 'warm to the touch and looking like he was sleeping'!
ccsense 2 years ago
I have checked my files and chef Kai exact words were '...he just came running down the stairs...didn't say what was wrong...just for Prince to go upstairs and go get security..., didn't tell me what was wrong...'! Besides that, there is several interviews where she confirms that statements!
2 requests: #1 Prince to go upstairs #2 her to get security! At no point did Murray ask Kai the address or to call 911! After, when ambulance got there she was praying with the kids in the kitchen!
ccsense 2 years ago
At the Larry King show Kai said, that Murray told her "Go, get Prince, call the security" and she said, that she dropped everything, got Prince, who met Murray on the stairs, but stayed downstairs....and the paramedics arrived within minutes...and they (Kai with the kids) prayed together.
We both are right with that. :) There is no reason for calling Prince and not saying, what´s wrong or that he didn´t say "call 911", you´re right.
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Dr. C Murray, graduate degree in CA, has invalid medical license, has several malpractice judgment leans on most of his properties, has about 6 kids by 4 women most of which are seeking child support, and was seeking bankruptcy in LA and LV prior to being hired by Michael?! He also gave Michael, 136pd 5.9" man baby CPR on the BED!
ccsense 2 years ago
Dr. Murray desperately screams for Prince to go upstairs after 'his father flat lines', & doesn't tell chef Kai, who is witnessing Murray run into the kitchen and call Prince upstairs , to call 911!
ccsense 2 years ago
Dr. Murray doesn't ask chef Kai for the address or to call 911, even those he said he didn't call 911 because he didn't know the address and couldn't find anyone in the house to ask for the address! But he did run into chef Kai when he called Prince upstairs! Why not ask chef Kai the address?!
ccsense 2 years ago
Why, when your only patient just had a heart attack you don't get help from chef Kai who was feeding Prince when Murray came screaming down the stairs for Prince to go upstairs ?!
ccsense 2 years ago
Why did Dr. Murray get on the phone and make numerous 'personal calls' for 20 min and wait 40min before having the bodyguard call 911! Was Prince doing CPR on his father?! If not why was Prince called upstairs?!
ccsense 2 years ago
For what purpose would Dr. Murray scream for Prince be go upstairs and according to chef Kai, who was feeding the kids when Murray run down the stairs; why Prince and not 911 !!
ccsense 2 years ago
For what purpose did Prince get called upstairs ?! Who other then Michael, alive, and attempting to worn his oldest son of an unknown danger, would have any reason to call a 12yr old boy in a room with his unconscious father?!
ccsense 2 years ago
For what purpose would Dr. Murray, when he was suppose to be saving Michael's life, after a heart attack, when every second counts, for what purpose would he call upstairs Prince!
ccsense 2 years ago
There is only one man, on 25th of June, who had 'cause to call Prince upstairs: MICHAEL J. JACKSON and that could be done only if HE WAS NOT HAVING A HEART ATTACK! Michael would never abandon his kids; but, he will do and say anything to keep them safe!
ccsense 2 years ago
Michael is not faking his death willingly!
Dr. Murray calling Prince upstairs, instead of 911 & waited 40min before calling 911! Dr. Murray calling Prince upstairs show Michael ALIVE, SURPRISED, TOTALY UNPREPARED, FEAR FOR HIS FAMILY, REACTIONS that can only be caused by DANGER and SURVIVAL INSTINCTS!
ccsense 2 years ago
MICHAEL WOULD NEVER ABANDON HIS KIDS and he would never leave the kids emotionally unprepared! PRINCE, PARIS and BLANKET were traumatized and hurt so much it hurts to watch!
Yet, at the memorial they all cried but, COMPLETELY ignored their father's coffin and desperately starred into the news cameras!!
ccsense 2 years ago
Why kids fixated on media cameras and not their father's coffin? These kids were sheltered from the media, and if Michael was 'safely faking his death', why are those kids to this day so traumatized! What happened when Prince got called upstairs? What did he see? What was he told?!
ccsense 2 years ago
the way conrad murray sways "Twooth" Is the same way michael sings it in the who is it acapella version. I have no doubt in my mind that Conrad Murray is Michael jackson in prostetic makeup. It makes so much sense. When they talk they also sound very very similar
ddrfrk 2 years ago
DA Troot...ehem THE TRUTH that MJ is indeed A.L.I.V.E. will prevail, and as a consequence the TABLOIDS will all be ruined and put to shame!!!
MJ4Ev3r~~~
PS
How come you are able to get hold of all these pieces of information, who is your source?
George007Kelley 2 years ago 2
LOL... you got me crackin up, "da troot" LMAO
MsStoot 2 years ago
I just really appreciated him admitting that he didn't write most of the songs, and that the ones he did write were just random words that he looked up in a dictionary (which we all pretty much knew already, but its nice to hear him finally say it.) I learned alot about him in general too, like the fact that he has a tattoo of Hulk Hogan on his back. Who knew! Well, I assume some of his die-hard fans already knew, I am admittedly just a recent fan of his within the last couple of weeks in fact.
christianblackmtlrlz 2 years ago
@christianblackmtlrlz sorry but what are you talking about???
gisellechasez 2 years ago 3
Imagine if AEG/Sony is in on this "hoax" idea - and in reality it is murder but disguised as a hoax to make them rich and hide the truth? people are seeing the movie TII 6 x's sometimes!!
RedStar2fly 2 years ago
I think, we will see it, when MJ returns!
Think about all the weird statements of the coroner, the LAPD, the family, MJ´s environment....lots of things doesn´t make sence! Just for example, the LAPD would never talk about ongoing ivestigations, less than ever they will name the "mystery date"of finishing their investigations!
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
ANYONE NOTICE MJ SAYING "YOU ARE ALL VEGETABLES AND THEY HATE YOU" IN TII? IF not, perhaps there are multiple versions of the same movie with different messages!!
RedStar2fly 2 years ago
I feel sick just thinking that if it is murder, there are some people making a lot of money making us think that its a hoax. His sisters think its murder and half the family did not view This Is It - angry that MJ did not have the last word on the project. What does that mean?
RedStar2fly 2 years ago
Homicide doesn´t mean, a crime is committed! it´s just a assessment of the coroner about the cause of death!
MJ´s sisters aren´t very convincing while talking about their brother´s "death", telling weird stories which doesn´t add up! First La Toya said, she will not watch "TII", because of the reason you mentioned, later she watched it...! Also weird! It´s not clear whom to trust!
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Yes, I didn't mean homicide. I meant theory of "murder." Rebbie and Randy both stated that they would not watch it b.c MJ did not have the final say in the project. The word "murder" by Joe, Latoya and Janet is serious accusation - isn't it?
RedStar2fly 2 years ago
Honestly, what should they say instead? "Dr. Murray may have killed MJ, but let him be a free man"? The whole world is focusing on this doctor as the only "suspect". But isn´t it curious, that as well La Toya as Janet call him a murderer since a very short time? MJ "died" in june, Dr. Murray was the "suspect" since august, and now the sisters are talking about him as a murderer??? And Joe Jackson only mentioned "it was foul play".
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
The TMZ pic shows a man with white hair sticking out from the side of his cap. Not Dr. M or is it?
RedStar2fly 2 years ago
We´re not sure about this guy, who is also very tall, but he doesn´t match with "the other" Dr. Murray´s we know. It´s strange! :)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Yes, thanks for your reply :)
RedStar2fly 2 years ago
I like this video. I'm glad u picked up on the fact that there is an actor Conrad Murray and a doctor Conrad Murray - in other words the individual who supposedly murdered Michael Jackson. I think that possibly Dr Conrad Murray could have done the youtube vid ages ago before MJ's "death" (so as well as a doc he is an actor playing his part in the hoax) and which would also be the reason why we notice differences with Dr Murray when we see different photos/videos of him, maybe.
c33stylisticz 2 years ago 5
The psychitrist the Chander's used in the MJ fradulant extortion case, commited suicide. Martin Bashit has a brain tumor. Evan Chandler commited suicide...
REST IN PEACE MICHAEL! I AM SO SORRY YOU WERE A VICTIM OF THESE SICK MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE.
WATCH OUT ARVIZO FAMILY.
Purrrsuasive1 2 years ago 2
great video!!!
dr. murray was like family to michael ?
Janet and others didn't knew dr.Murray they 'never saw him and never heard of him before. Strange!!
Sorry for my bad English
Inesjaja 2 years ago
check out the death hoax forum is gilda's or dorothy's face on the dollar bills murray paid child support with ,if you want the link it's on my channel.
p92gr33n5 2 years ago
I saw it, how curious is that!
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
There's some new videos, Murray really tall actually... MJ is only 5" 11
PahangDragonbird 2 years ago
Hi
klasse Video - gut gemacht
lange nichts mehr gehört, dachte schon du hast aufgegeben
mach weiter so
Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt!!!!!!
liebe Grüsse and Dich und Dein Team!!!
lunagermany 2 years ago
Danke schön! :) Als ob wir aufgeben würden.....*gggg*
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
Hiiiii Süße! Ich glaube auch nicht wirklich, dass es die gleichen Personen sind.. Sie sehen sich zwar ähnlich, aber ich kann mir nicht wirklich vorstellen, das ein Mensch so schnell soviel zunimmt.. denk* Das Video ist wiedermal erste Sahne geworden! Ihr 2 seid ein echtes Dreamteam .. lach* Ich verneuge mich vor Euch... :-))
Sumsesusi 2 years ago
verneige meine ich natürlich.. ;-))
Sumsesusi 2 years ago
Danke, Süße, das "Dreamteam" freut sich sehr über Dein Kompliment! :)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
could it be that MJ paid Dr. Murray to pose as him to make the vid and take those shots like he did with Dave Dave??? bcuz the pictures look alike BUT don't like do ya get me...they look like they cud b brothers not the same person....idk just my opinion
LiteEyeZ22 2 years ago
watch: dr murray in court
/watch?v=67XL109Y0xM
0Deb01 2 years ago
WOW....Thank u so much MJJ2gurl... it is really welL done research... I never realized all these things in da way...... OMG!!!
Your make me "THINK".......ya vid and the rumor in FBOOK, give me so much hope..... I dicede ..... I believe... MJ must be alive..... PLEASE..... MJ COME BACK... PLEASE BABE....
P9020x 2 years ago
Thank you! :)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
All of these Dr. Murray's different colors
dimeclipent 2 years ago
Definitely says `unknown' well spotted.
heydude527 2 years ago
At 5:44, look all the way over to the right. It seems to say Board Cerification(maybe) and in the middle lists cardiology, .... to the right again it says 'unknown' as in NOT certified...Proof maybe that the good doctor does not exist....
kmarie225 2 years ago
Very well spotted! Thanx for posting! :)
And another curious point concerning Dr. Murray!
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
GOOD video!
Thanks for posting :-)
BeauitifulMJForever 2 years ago
I believe both pics posted by TMZ are the same man, Dr. Murray. From July to November, 4 months later, he can pack those pounds on. I'm not saying that TMZ isn't in on the whole thing, but the pics look like him. On TMZ, they are stating that Dr. Murray's lawyer is a man named Chris Aaron. Great video girls!!! ^_^
mrxsmommy 2 years ago
Thank you! *smile*
You´re right, both pics of TMZ are the same guy, but these pics are originally from "news of the world" from august11, 2009! TMZ showed these pics as "new" in november!
All the "Murray-guys" were shown in the time between the end of july and august 18! So, it´s curious, that they look so different!
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
TMZ is showing a live stream of Dr. Murray's child support court case today.
mrxsmommy 2 years ago
Thank you for the hint! :)
MJJ20Girl 2 years ago
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mrxsmommy 2 years ago
Didnt conrad Muray also treat james Brown!!
chantale10 2 years ago
Jacque Hollander, JB's producer, said that in an interview with the "New York Post", you are right.
124mikki 2 years ago
I've heard that too!!
BeauitifulMJForever 2 years ago
Thankx for a perfect team play, sweety!!!
124mikki 2 years ago