The Quiet Mutiny (1970) vietnam interviews part 2

[MindMyLost]

This guy has a point. It is a dum idea to die for a Gook that hates your guts anyway.

[tharleyify]

Ma Pa & apple pie, Miss America is fucked up worse then the grunts.

[hatetechstuff]

4:55 "He kinda got shot ::chuckles sadly::"

[OrthodoxDarwinist]

You can be GUARANTEED that the media nowadays will NEVER tell the truth about war like this documentary does. In fact today the media are the ones trying desperately to sell illegal unwarranted war to the public, and unfortunately in America there are so many uneducated blood-lusting retards that a large proportion are too stupid to realize what is clear propaganda.

[celticlofts]

A gift wrapped filing cabinet? Jesus it kinda sums up the Vietnam experience doesn't it.

[1981Riggs]

American Foreign policy these days, as was then, is sickening, hypocritical mass murder and genocide, these poor guys didn't have a clue what they were getting themselves into and their commanders and higher ups didn't give a fuck, cannon fodder and nothing more and the people of vietnam collateral damage, the whole system stinks and should be taken down a couple of pegs to show these scum fucks in Washington that they are not going to bully and corrupt the rest of the world any longer..

[bamnibaum]

Everybody griped, some smoked dope, some drank booze. We all wanted to make it out alive. I did not see or hear too many talk about fighting for flag or country. You worried about protecting yourself and your buddies. You did what had to be done! You had to do 365 days and each day was I might make it or I might not. If you made that day you were one day shorter. God bless the ones that served. They should be proud of that service. Vietnam is in my memory every day. 70, 71, and 72

[wovokanarchy]

This is why freedom of the press is so dangerous.

[pim1234]

Strange attitudes have these men, as if the army is some kind of democracy and some of the soldiers can freely make up their mind if they wanna follow an order or not ...

[downsideuptv]

@pim1234 the world is a funny place, soon? we'll kill each other... if not? some kind of awakening i hope lol either or lol

[badsign1980]

AS FAR AS IM CONCERN AMERICA AS NOT BEEN INTO REAL WAR SINCE 1964-1974 THESE SO CALLED WARS NOWDAYS ARE MADE FROM AIR AND HIDDEN, AND GUESS WHAT NOBODY SUPPORTS AMERICAN ACTIONS AMERICANSD ARE BULLYS AND NOBODY WANTS THEM ANYWHERE

[juicemane59]

@badsign1980 what war have you been in?

[badsign1980]

by 1970 everybody knew the war was bullshit everybody except the ones the werent there, like the ones who arent in irak and other places wuitch arent actual wars to begin with asmericans move inside metal boxes and hide inside camps witch isnt a war at all if it was they use their minds and see its about OIL

[envanje]

@badsign1980

You mean the US troops in Afghanistan hide inside their tanks and camps ? But that is totally wrong for how can you occupy a country when you do not mix with the local population ?

As in Europe 1945 US soldiers should enable local civilians to receive them as liberators, offer their cheeks to be kissed by Afghani women.

The way they are doïng it now they could as well have left their preservatives at home.

[palehorseridder]

this video is disgracefull to the U.S. Army. All it did was show the worse Army soldiers whom were drafted and slipped through the cracks. Why did they glorize the fact that a U.S Army company commander was shot by his own men as opposed to showing the brave man who gave his life for his fellow man only b/c he loved his brother, his service, and his country. The man who wrote this was not a true "GRUNT"

[tevitarosa]

@palehorseridder ....learn to spell, there's only 1 (l) in disgraceful....and there's no such word as 'glorize'.

Question for you, is English your first language, by your spelling anyone would think it wasn't?

[irishgeal1]

i bet that spokesman at the end got fired for telling the truth.

[vallonia]

Where are the Marines in all of this ????

[ThePitNik]

@vallonia this wasn't about marines, this was about grunts (regular u.s. army soldiers)

[meatloafzombie]

Much respect due to the vietnam vets and the Americans lost there. Fucked up war and political ramifications. As a soldier the only thing you can do is 1. Follow orders 2. Stay alive. On a possitive note, atleast playmates have came along way!

[gosciu555]

@ocean3da

Well there has always been a pro-imperial, pro-british faction in US politics that's allied with the British, their methods have migrated into the US, especially after WW2.

[gosciu555]

@ocean3da

No this is a continuation of the British policy of dominating the middle east militarily.

[badsign1980]

my father was in the colonial (africa-angola 61-74) and this exact same thing happend soldiers said fuck it, let hair go long, whore peace symbols refuse to fight and there was no discipline or any control, some platoons where left alone for months many deserted, after 1970 the army got tired of foghting a war that dosent lead no where, if a war dosent end and the enemy was more tenacity and believes in what hes doing and dies for it then u already loose...

[dominic970]

lol ppl danced so weird bak then

[badattitude77769]

war is just a game for those who worship satan, the wealthy ones wiht the ugly wives, they interbred to keep their bloodlines pure, going back hundreds of years, faggots in suits, knights templar, 33 degree masons, tied into the vatican ratline, moving nazis and cocaine down the ratline, most people are too stupid to do a search and think for themselves, millions of children and their loved ones killed and murdered for lies.

[dave777blaster]

Ole Smedley said it all, " War is a racket ".

[TMKchld]

---- the masters of war...

[idiotfinder911]

All of you guys are IDIOTS! Dont you know there are people in the world that create this stuff out of thin air. None of it is true. Like the AirForce aircraft that carried a nuke from Louisiana to a northern state had all of the crew killed mysteriesly. Its all lies made up on the internet.

These people are liberal hippies who have no idea which way is up and down. They were/are drugged up poeple who many even screwed their kids, literally. These drugged up child abusers need to be locked away

[mogodbilealadamnbama]

@idiotfinder911, There you go, generalizing about liberal hippies and such... screwing their own kids?

You must be thinking of Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell... maybe the Pope? The Bakers?

Anyway, I mean you no harm. I just really enjoy making fun of followers. Please accept my condolences.

And yes, the story about the missing nuke is very likely a lie.  Wanna know where I first heard of it? The 6 o'clock news. AND, it was (supposedly) traveling TO Barksdale, not from.

[idiotfinder911]

@mogodbilealadamnbama

actually it was A B-52 bomber with six nuclear warheads flew from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., on Aug. 30 2007.

And yes, it was the hippies that, ah... well.. I see on discovery every week with their stories, or their kids stories on how they were sexually abused in those hippie tribal camps that were set up all over America. Why do you think America is so fucked up? Hippies you IDIOT! "Got any drugs for your dad?" LOLOL HIPPIE!

[tgambill]

you finally figured it out. The Liberal hippy movement was designed by the 1960's by CIA Travistock in order to effect a major cultural change in the US.The CIA used Vietnam for running drugs to the Mafia and providing them for the Liberals and Africal Americans as a means of strategy.The Civil Rights movment was designed by strategy to create a civil war and Martin Luther King was supposed to help. He didn't he was killed by the government. for sure. Actually so was Malcolm X. Ask ole Jesse J

[idiotfinder911]

@tgambill

Yea, and I guess Sirhan Sirhan was working for the CIA or was set up too right? I guess McCarthey's movement that included the radical hippies was a peaceful one right? LOL You are so far off the truth there is no help for you! Have fun going through your entire life cofused.

[tgambill]

Sirhan? MKULTRA. ALL of the school shootings and mass shootings are linked to the research done by Professor Ralph K. Schwitzgebel of Harvard.The devices were implanted back then and now they are under a program dealing with Microminiaturization, and permanent 'intra-cranial stimulation. In the 1970's an NSA computer specialist was noted to have proposed attaching electronic tracking devices to 20 million Americans. They can attach them to the nostral, ears, and places you don't want to know.

[tgambill]

Follow this research rabbit trail with honest research for yourself or not. HAARP, GWEN and ELF towers, VERICHIP, Nanobots + Flu vaccine implantation, MK ULTRA, Manchurian candidates, sleepers and control by console. You will get an idea.....or just don't. makes no difference to me. Note that the ELF towers are placed US Wide and overlap when activated. Behavioral Modification to control any organized revolt. Have fun. It won't be a party.

[tgambill]

The radical hippies?? Sure, the radical hippies were inflitrated in fact with highly secret and trained units within the police forces of the time even unknown to the forces, that instigated violence. The plans for both blacks and white marches were to have a peaceful march but the operation involved creating violent events to create the problems in order to justify violent retaliation from the Police forces even unknown to the police forces....themselves.

[tgambill]

where do you think Radical Islam the Brotherhood really came from? Look to the Vatican and our own administration from FDR on up. Al Qaeda??:)) Bin Laden was killed in 2001 anyway.Bhutto was assassinated because she was not being very cooperative with the globalist. It is of my opinion that he was assassinated by one of his own men, by orders from CIA, and then the family of Bin Ladin killed ole Omar after a failed suicide mission. Bin Laden has been used ever since. I could be wrong.

[idiotfinder911]

@mogodbilealadamnbama

HEY, you must have forgoten about the liberal hippies raising a Viet-cong flag at a bunch of their protests. LOL How about Mao or Che being praised as if they were Jesus. LOL

From then until now at Columbia today, you liberal hippies would literally attack President Bush and people who oppose gay marriage but will cheer on Irans president the next day, not knowing he KILLS gays at first sight. LOL Liberalism is indeed a sickness. How can people be so confused! LOL

[ZEITGEISTism]

idiotandimbecile

What an imbecile you are ! Liberals are not "hippies" Liberals believe in Freedom for ALL including Iranians ! Liberals want the USA to Keep its Big nose out of other countries internal affairs no matter what ! If Irans president kills gays Thats Irans business, their country, their laws, their problem . they will sort out their own shit , thats Their RIGHT NOT the Bloody USA or a gay americans right!

[idiotfinder911]

@ZEITGEISTism

And the typical liberal response. I would LOVE to let them deal with it. I would LOVE to keep my nose OUT OF OTHER business. I would LOVE to not have to deploy to Iraq and Afghan!

But the fact you fail to see iswhat would happen if we did that? Ill tell you, Japan would have Nuked MANY countries during the 40's, German world dominate the world, Israel would be nuked, and MANY more INSANE stuff.

Do you honestly think WE cause world chaos? You have a LOT to learn about life

[mogodbilealadamnbama]

@idiotfinder911,

Calm down and check your facts. Japan didn't have nukes in the '40's.

I don't know what ZEITGEISTism thinks, and neither do you.

[idiotfinder911]

@ZEITGEISTism

And you dont know the meaning of freedom. You read these sci-fi books and think that is reality. There are people who want you DEAD and would love nothing more than a country full of liberal hippies who have a view like you. Imagine if America was full of YOU. YOU wouldnt be here. You would be DEAD! Bottom line! Get out some time and see the world!

[mogodbilealadamnbama]

Ok Sean, err... idiotfinder. I don't care much for labels, anyway.

I am liberal, because I don't believe I'm qualified to decide on abortion. It's not my body, it's not my choice.

I am conservative, because I know the eventual result of deficit spending.

I don't know much about you, except that you appear as a rabid dog; lashing out at things you percieve as threats, but don't understand.

Go ahead, enslave yourself. Don't say I didn't warn you.

[idiotfinder911]

@mogodbilealadamnbama

You obviously have no clue how these abortions are done. You havent even begun to see the REAL truth.

Your not ready for this. Move on!

[tgambill]

The AirForce had 6 nukes leave Minot to Barksdale in the Fall of 2007. Only five arrived and it became national news quickly shut up. Bush was planning an attack on Iran it was determined beyond the desires of the Bilderberg group. As a result 6 AF personnel were "killed" more likely murdered in one week from Minot. I can provide you the names and details. 3 more died from Barksdale/Minot later the following month. Get the facts straight. I have.

[jamesgravil]

The really ugly aspect of the Vietnam war - one of the ugliest ones - was the covert bombing of Cambodia, carried out by Richard Nixon in 1940, and for which Henry Kissinger (in hushing up the whole illegal affair) was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. You tell me America isn't a terrorist nation. The US causes more violence around the globe than any other nation in history (Nazi Germany excepted - possibly), and then has the temerity to say that it's acting in the name of godliness and virtue!

[Hendo1974]

Bay of Tolkan incident was a LIE, war profiteers making money off the blood of young american men and soo many vietnamese massacred and the profits of the drug trade nefarious US politicians made during the Vietnam war, today it's Afghanistan and Iraq!SICK!

[Rico8458]

for the most part those who join the army today are escaping welfare and no jobs here so they join up. war is only business which the bankers win.

[BablyonsKing]

One thing which never was made clear is the fact that this Countries involvement with the South Vietnamese was the opposite of what it should have been The South Vietnamese were the Bastard children and should have been cut off from any military aid. What a Racket is right, boy Richard Nixon sold this country a bill of goods and cost the thousands and thousands of deaths to innocent young men. They are presently really thinking hard about bringing the draft back, what are you plans now MEN?

[tgambill]

Nixon plainly had planned a coup and the coup will be completed by Obama by his signing the EO for the 10 Counsel of Governors. Who really knows this....:))

[dave777blaster]

He was correct there will be no more American army.

the only people that will sign up will be those who are economically destitute.

in others words the grunts of America

there will be no more drafts .

The American people have had enough of enriching the Military Industrial complex at the expense of humanity.

[dave777blaster]

Unfortunately the grunts of society do not understand too clearly and only in time and retrospect do they understand the big picture, some never understand .

Like today Americans are in the Middle east not to bring freedom or protect America .

IT is all about what it always was about.

Best understood and stated by one of America's biggest heroes of all time.

"War is a Racket " S Butler .

John Pilger always where the action is ,a real reporter and man of conscience.

[tgambill]

Hey Dave777, guess what. The Bush, DuPont, Rockefeller et al group was going to contract Butler for $60,000 to lead a revolt against FDR and take over the US government with 500,000 former WWI vets. He blew the whistle in 1934. He didn't know the traitor FDR was in on it. FDR was going to declare martial law and a dictatorship by 1934-1935 by his own admission behind closed doors on March 4, 1939. I sure hope someone challenges this truth. :))

[annebeck58]

As an American, I HAVE NO IDEA!

[tgambill]

The American serviceman fought a war that was designed not to win. JFK was a family member of one of the Original 13 Illuminati families. Google this and find out in about 30 seconds.  He turned his back on the family and was going to pull 1,000 soldiers out of Vietnam by 1964. After the Government/Illuminati assassinated him LBJ signed the go order and disassembled every effort JFK made to break the Masonic/Jesuit/Illuminati hold. Historical fact.

[tgambill]

Concerning the American Subsidized economy of the Soviet Union, the US State Dept issued in August of 1966 a pamphlet entitled "Private Boycotts vs the National Interests, which basically told "patriotic businesses" that it was working AGAINST THE US GOVERNMENT if they didn't trade. IT IS a documented fact that the same family names in Wall Street, FULLY FUNDED HITLER in 1928, the Bolsheviks, and in 1905 Lenin. I've got the details if you want me to give you offline. EXTREME DETAILS.

[tgambill]

Annebeck I mentioned earlier that Clinton Roosevelt, ancestor to our of most unknown traitors, FDR, helped to create the ideology called Communism.You WILL find his document entitled "The Science of Government Founded on Natural Law."He plagarized it from Adam Weishaupt's Protocols setting up the Communist ideas.Albert Pike Mason coordinated and tasked Karl Ritter, to write the Facist tenets and after Ritters death, F. Nicheche took over.The two programs were to justify war in the next century.

[Rico8458]

america should have allowed the south to build a 5 million man army and invade the north. why not, the north was invading the south.

[mlovmo]

Interesting point. I'm guessing that from a Vietnamese viewpoint that wouldn't have been so unfair because it was a civil war, after all. However, I don't think that Vietnamese attacking an opposing government elsewhere in Vietnam could be said to be "invading". I personally don't think that any Vietnamese could be seen as "invading" their own country, no matter where in Vietnam they're from. The 17th parallel was not respected much by either side, and Vietnam was going to be united. Period

[padookieking]

America needs a foreign legion.

[LineDoggie]

What leftist tripe, yeah the Joe's stopped the war. Bravo Sierra

[mlovmo]

I worked with a Vietnam Vet who did two tours as a non-com leading a squad and later as a platoon sgt.: One tour in 1965 and again in 1970. He said the real reason we left when we did, is that the enlisted men stopped following orders. I mean, look at the guys in this documentary: The Army let them grow long hair, appear totally un-uniform, etc. and they still couldn't pacify them. The system of discipline was seriously eroded, and the Army itself wanted to get the hell out.

[tgambill]

Glycerol was used for booby traps as a detonator. The Russians were then tasked to pass on to the VC....true story. The transaction took place in 1966.

[tgambill]

it was designed to lose as was Korea. Its was part of the Illuminati's plan to reduce the effectiveness of the US soldier, CIA to bring drugs into the US during this time, foment the fake cold war with communism also designed by Clinton Roosevelt in 1841 by the way ancestor to FDR little known fact. It was also to build the coffers of the globalist using the military industrial complex. The State department allowed the secret selling of plans to russia to build a glycerol factory

[annebeck58]

I don't know about it being designed to lose. It could be that not enough THOUGHT, on the part of our president and/or reps was done. Could be, like in Iraq, we thought we would be greeted with gratitude and seen as a mighty force? I honestly still don;t comprehend WHY we went there (or Korea), in the first place..

You?

[tgambill]

I know for a fact, as evidenced by detailed research that the US government under the direction of the Illuminati exploited the war for a number of reasons. First of all it was to increase spending increasing our debt, increase the wealth of the members of the Military Industrial complex as warned by Eisenhower before he left office; provide a means to increase the CIA drug smuggling using civilian contractors bringing the coke to the US for distribution to mafia assets. continued

[tgambill]

The drugs were to be distributed to African American Communities and colleges in order to bring in the New Age Movement tenets. FACT. The money from the drugs were also used by CIA for black projects without the spending being tracked, the war was to fuel the communist threat. The communist system was designed by Clinton Roosevelt, ancestor to FDR in 1841, fact. Roosevelt got his design from Adam Weishaupt's completed plan on May 1, 1776. Passed to Roosevelt by Masonic ties. FACT.

[tgambill]

Annebeck, our government set it up so that we could make weapons parts and send them to Russia including the plans for a glycerol factory in order to provide the VC the necessary ingredient in their booby traps. THEY WANTED THE WAR TO KEEP GOING. The guns, the ammo, the weapons, the transportation systems that killed Americans came from the American subsidized economy of the Soviet Union. A conduit for American Businessmen to profit for another reason.

[tgambill]

Finally, I'll try to end here. There was a more sinister purpose for the vietnam war even beyond the ones I named and you don't want to know about Agent Orange. It was designed to weaken the US soldiers morale and weaken the peoples support and morale at home. WHY?? I'll tell you. NIXON in 1969 was planning a military coup of the US Government to take place in 1974. He was working with General Cushman and in fact signed EXECUTIVE ORDER 11647 dissolving the US States into 10 regions.

[tgambill]

I'm going to tell you a secret. :)) Executive Order 11647 signed on February 10, 1972 and EO 11731 signed July 23, 1973 set up 10 regions, five states each, with one governor in power after the coup. We almost had a civil war that few Americans know about. It would be the third planned military coup of our government by the insider government since that scum FDR had one planned. FDR was not named but the coup of 1934 is confirmed by a congressional investigation.

[tgambill]

Finally, fast forward, a discussion in the elites discussed that Americans had too many personal weapons and even Schlesinger had investigated how to form a force that would counterbalance the Marines if they took over the White House in DC. It died, and they settled on impeachment but few outside the circle knows why. Guess what? the plan for a fourth declaration of martial law was started in 1974. Trilateral Commission.

[tgambill]

I"m done as this only 1/100th of the research I've done on just this war not counting the Civil war, WWI, WWII, Korean and the fake war on terror. Thats a real story that starts in 1990-1991 when George Bush was finally allowed by the Illuminati/Masonic conspirators to announce on September 11, 1990 the emergence of a new world order. Obama signed the document necessary two weeks ago establishing the "10 Counsel of Governors"....and a BS reason. do the math.

[annebeck58]

btw, the war is not over for some.. their minds are destroyed. and it will never be over.

[annebeck58]

And, we pulled out because our soldiers refused to fight. Many went missing-- some still are there today.  I don't know if it's 7k, but I know there are some.

[annebeck58]

That was heartwrenching, as one who had two brothers and many neighbors there. when I have asked vets I know about Cambodia, where one of my brothers was, they say, "Officially, we were not in Cambodia". But, I remember writing to my brother there.

[Sealight007]

Americans had a choice. The Communist North Vietnamese sent their soldiers south to die. there was no choice. Can you imagine a soldier from Vietnam saying he didn't want to be a soldier? Dead, dead, dead.

[annebeck58]

They didn't have much of a choice..

IF a young man did not want to go, at the time, he could claim c.o, but that was almost impossible to verify--- and was always on the side of the military, OR (as one of my brothers did), he could feign being gay.. OR, he could run off to Canada (preferably) or another country.

None of these choices were great as awol and.or 4-F were then on their PERMANENT records. At a later time, my brother wanted to enlist-- and was refused entry!

[paseggiato]

We did not lose , we pulled out lol We blew up 3 million gook soldiers to our 58 thousand ........

[kuthanhhtcc]

toan bon ngu

[NEWREDDAWN]

No wonder we lost the war, the entertainment did it.

[SimonDolan]

The woman doesn`t sound very sincere during the early part of this part - also I`m sure one of the dancers is a red cross girl in part 3!!!

[annebeck58]

Uh, if you check out that Miss America, you will find that she was the (very) touchable white-meat, though only by her own father (yes, disgusting, but what it was).

[mlovmo]

Hey, I've checked. I didn't see anything on the internet about Pam Eldred and incest.

[annebeck58]

You're rigt..

I was thinking of the other Miss America, Marilyn Van Derbur..

Wrong one-- mea culpa..

[dominic970]

wat'd u mean

[ApacheGrunt26]

I served three combat tours as in infantryman in Iraq from 2003-2007. I say that to myself and to many of the men with whom I served. I have found widespread agreement on this. The farther we go from being a citizen Army, the more out of touch America is from its military. I suggest you serve three tours "over there" and discover how poorly managed our strategy is by the "professional" generals, colonels and sergeants major who run our military ragged for political gain.

[cinewill1]

Thanks for speaking out ApacheGrunt.!

the Fanboys and the Armchair Shitkickers won't

get it until they lose a leg or get stop-lossed 3 times or lose a best buddy.

The abuse of our Military has been a key lever in the destruction of the US.The international elites will be able to buy us up at fire sale prices,and we the ancestors

will be slaves on the continent our forefathers

fought for.

[realwarfilms]

Idiot.

[invincibleironman3]

They had no clue as to why they were there, they had no idea of what forces shaped the policy they had to serve, and they then rebelled when the morals of the war changed (see My Lai massacre, Operation Phoenix) - Fragging went on, drug use, the war reflected the uncertainty, anger, division and loss of moral courage of America at that time.

[ApacheGrunt26]

He was right. There has not yet been another generation of American soldier, just lifers who want careers. And its the lifers, er, professional soldiers, who make these wars such a mess.

[whiff1962]

Its an interesting point to ponder. How did the U.S. army higher ups and Pentagon think of this almost mutinous behaviour from the ranks, in the latter stages of the war?

[mattlocke06]

whats funny you have people like that even when they volunteer. I remember having people like that in the army when we were over in Iraq during Desert Storm. Their bad for morale as a whole. You have people who joined up not knowing what they were getting theirself into, they get into trouble and get a bad attitude, constantly getting into trouble. I remember seeing a few guys like, one of them went AWOL.

[diamondhead85]

Its people like Mr Pilger here that had a lot to do with giving us all a bad name, and a bum rap.

[diamondhead85]

Thats total BS. I was drafted and never did anything like this or don't know anyone who did. We were a proud lot and at my time were the best unit in the Army. Just because you got drafted doesn't make you less of a man, and unfortunately to the ney sayers only 25% of the Army were draftees. In WW II it was closer to 70%. MOST of us were proud of what we did, and if asked to do it again would.

Ron

Cu Chi 68-69

[py1013]

long binh, you disagree with Pilger? he's not exactly a card carrying republican....lol.

by your name i am guessing perhaps you were at LBJ in 71? so you would know thats a pretty accurate representation of what it was like then in that period...the US Army soldiers wanted out...

[longbinh71]

John Pilger was probably on The KGB's payroll just like his more famous counterpart Wilfred Burchett , and it was Long Binh post , not LBJ ( Long Binh jail )and the US Army that was the there in 70-73 was not the same professional Army that was there previous , of course if you interview a bunch of pothead draftee's if they want to be there , they're going to say no.

This is why they should never have a draft , they wind up scraping the bottom of the barrell.

[py1013]

LBJ was attached to Long Binh of course, and that's why i asked if you were in LBJ....you sound like a real reprobate.....lol

who's your pilger or burchett these days? someone has to report both/each side to the story and not get fed a line of BS....

but i guess you still believe there's WMD out there right?

[longbinh71]

" someone has to report both/each side to the story "...that's funny...lol

Where were Pilger and Burchett in 1975 when the the communist were brutally executing tens of thousands of South Vietnamese and imprisoning another million ( where 56,000 died )...where were they when millions of South Vietnamese fled Vietnam by sea.

they were probably celebrating with their communist friends.

[diamondhead85]

Thats totalBS. I was drafted and never did anything like this or don't know anyone who did. We were a proud lot and at my time were the best unit in the Army. Just because you got drafted doesn't make you less of a man, and unfortunately to the ney sayers only 25% of the Army were draftees. In WW II it was closer to 70%. MOST of us were proud of what we did, and if asked to do it again would.

Ron

Cu Chi 68-69

[JustMatty80]

Amen. The ends can NEVER justify the means.

think you'll like my vids.. ;-0

[plesmond]

My father was drafted in 1967 after graduating from Oberlin College. He is one of the most peaceful people I'll ever know. It's so strange that he was once over there.

[agaichapter25]

@plesmond ..probably a peaceful guy coz he seen the horrors of war first hand...